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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:22:27 GMT -5
merrymithras DIAMOND DIGGER Re: Weekly Buzz Chat 01/10/11 « Reply #207 Today at 11:34am »
IMO
The announcement will be: 1. We are working as hard as possible to make progress (which i believe is true) 2. There are lots of bad people out there (which of course is true) 3. The trust (stop right there - because there is no verifiable evidence of a trust)
If there was a trust, it would be a simple matter of exposing the hold up and allowing the shareholder base to escalate the pressure via normal channels; senators, lawyers, etc. There is a HUGE difference in action-ability between:
1. Dear local senator/newspaper/congress person/lawyer, there is a secret trust which we are entitled to, but i have no evidence to support its existence.
2. Dear... i am a certified shareholder of CMKX and the following VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE shows the existence and location of a trust being held illegally by the following persons.
And don't give me this crap about 'oh that kind of information is too powerful' because it is just ridiculous.
Why doesn't Al or whomever expose the hold up/names/etc? I believe it is because he has a HUNCH that a trust exists and is working that hunch - has been all along - and exposing the names associated with that hunch will cause the inevitable mass escalation by the shareholder base and with that much exposure, will land him in major legal trouble if he is wrong.
My question is this - why on Earth would you put out updates as as fact based on a hunch?
Basher? Give me a break - i own hundreds of millions of shares. Frustrated? Of course, everyone is. The above is my opinion of what is going on - a man is working his hunch and dragging us along for the ride... a very very long ride.
I do believe that Al and team 100% believe in their hunch and that they do have tid-bits of information to potentially support it; but i also believe they have no verifiable proof and it is time to admit it. If they had the proof of the existence of a trust, they would have the leverage necessary to expose/release it. If they don't, then it is time to let the shareholder base know they have been working a 'hunch' while, for reasons unknown, continue promising instant life-changing wealth to the masses.
Looking forward to the 'update' MM
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:24:10 GMT -5
ty bikinipro hermannmaier0 Re: Dinar for Dummies via pixie « Reply #4 Yesterday at 7:28pm » [from the Dinar Vets site, also, a report of changes "Posted Today, 02:55 PMI just spoke with my contact at Sterling savings bank and they have a new buy rate for the IQD. If I were to purchase dinar from Sterling Savings Bank today I would only be paying .00105 Dollars per Dinar. This means that for every american dollar i spend, I can get 952.38 Iraqi Dinar. Quite a bit different from 1170. Granted, there are a lot of bank rumors and rumors of rate and date. All this phone call tells me is that there is activity to back up RV claims. The ball is starting to roll folks. Better get your jogging shoes on. Sterling Savings Bank Office of Foreign Assets Control International Banking 1(877)846-0029" Read more: dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/t..../#ixzz1AmBd8zBb
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:24:55 GMT -5
hurtsogood DIAMOND JEDI Re: Hodges and Associates 1/11/11 « Reply #170 Yesterday at 11:53pm »
A straight forward update would be nice. No references to mona, tramp, acca, or pongo. No predictions of payment next week or valentines day. Let us know if we have er now or is it not in the foreseeable future. Last but not least, do we really have .80 cents per share sitting at a distribution point or is it just a rumor.
Just be honest and straight forward with us about where we are. Also, thank you Mr. Hodges for working on our behalf.
Hurt
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:25:47 GMT -5
debbiedoesdiamonds DIAMOND DIGGER Re: Hodges and Associates 1/11/11 « Reply #176 Today at 1:07am »
Maybe a list of the questions we would most like to have answers to can be compiled and sent to Al ahead of time so that he can address those that he can answer.
I would like to know:
Is there a SC directive? What does it say? Who is the trustee? What are the terms of our trusts? How many trusts are there? What form will our payments be in? Have packets been sent to distribution points? Is a payment included? Is $.80 the amount of the first payment? What is the share structure that the payments will be made on? Is there any action that we as shareholders can take to make this happen? If we are registered with the TA, are we bonafied? Who does Al have to get permission from to announce ER? Did he get replies to any of the letters that he sent to POTUS or Her Magesty? Are the Chinese in chare of or connected to our trust release? Are we waiting for the Dinar?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:27:33 GMT -5
ty bikinipro & Sooner
seeking Are You Watching the Dinar « Thread Started Today at 1:00pm »
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:29:18 GMT -5
ty sooner
bigo1966 DIAMOND DIGGER Re: BHollenegg's Support Decision « Reply #15 Today at 8:54am »
Do we really know anyone's agenda? I have supported AH but my thoughts are starting to weaken as the months go by. BH has stated funds are in the hands of the trustee as of April. Packets are ready to go. .80 a share is in those packets for shareholders.
We have waited for many things for the release that have come and gone and still here we are. Mr Hodges better have some meat in his update this time. The mondain updates that we have gotten in the past won't do anymore. IMO Mr. Hodges crossed a line with the statement of a betting man being paid by Christmas. He knows the plight of many shareholders who are hanging on his every word.
I personally believe more pressure is needed, if funds have been sitting with the trustee (as some as said as fact) for some 9 months now there should not be a need for an appeal or any more delays.
Just as a side note as a shareholder I don't need John's opinion on my post, it is my thoughts and mine only. TY
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:30:20 GMT -5
ty sooner....
regrider DIAMOND MINER Re: BHollenegg's Support Decision « Reply #27 Today at 10:28am »
Can you say "US Treasury Notes" I honestly believe we have our funds in a safe place ready for release. Having said that I am of the mind there is absolutely nothing standing in the way of us taking possession of our funds except the one simple fact that the Federal Reserve Notes (the current "fiat system)are going to be worthless very soon and replaced with the commodities backed "US Treasury Notes. I understand Gus jarvis, wolfbela as well as many of us are getting upset with the lack of information regarding the hold-up of our funds however I truly believe there is good reason for the delay. IMHO I feel Mr. Hodges and the team are with holding funds for the "currency change-over" can you imagine after all these years receiving your funds only to have the rug pulled out from underneath you and your new found wealth stolen once again because of the "currency change over" NOT COOL ! I will wait until Mr. Hodges and team feel the time is right to release our funds after the Currency Change Over takes place and we can retain our wealth.......thank you very much ! These are just my Honest opinions due to my understanding derived from what I have read on these boards, the Dinar boards and a multitude of various articles regarding the inevitable monetary collapse/ Implosion, broken FIAT system, the "SDR's" the etc., etc.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:31:59 GMT -5
Quote:mojobean
john3339 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: Weekly Buzz Chat 01/10/11 « Reply #220 Today at 2:37pm »
Interesting how the price is eerily similar to the rumored pps we expect to receive from the trust!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:36:25 GMT -5
peterg2000 DIAMOND JEDI Though the smoke! IMHO « Thread Started Today at 2:55pm »
I've said it several times in the past that IBM was NOT bought in just to get the CMKX shareholders the most cash! IMHO he was bought in to clean up the corruption or at least as much as he could!
There has been a lot of talk about the fact they can't pay us because they would lose leverage! Well how do we act as leverage if the money was already collected and stored away in a trust for us? Not much leverage whether or or not we were paid! But haven't you ever wondered why we were NEVER given a dollar value as to what to expect as a return on your investment! In my opinion that's because its still being discussed or negotiated! I believe the courts awarded CMKX an amount and even a possibility of RICO! What they are negotiating is if we are willing to drop RICO and/or reduce the amount owed,if certain measures are put in place to safeguard the markets and the financial system! THAT my friends is where the REAL leverage would be!
I think Peter is taking up where his dad left off and is trying to complete the job! This is why we haven't been paid yet! I think, in the usual spook fashion, Peter has been feeding Al what to relay to us and that means it has been mostly misinformation! Its just been a big smoke screen while the real matters are being carried out behind the scenes! Most of the excuses have been plausible and even borderline plausible, just to keep us busy and involved!
All the times I was seen as fed up and complaining about the BS, I was referring to the misinformation! I also don't think it was ALL misinformation, as their might have been some truths put in here and there! There may very well have been an SC directive! Who knows for sure!
I still remain positive that one day we will see a good outcome! But it may NOT be the 6$ a share many expect! But I believe we will be pleased anyways!
ALL IMHO
Pete
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:38:58 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) Re: Updated Daily.."RUMORS"....believe em' or not « Reply #216 Today at 4:26pm
crajaraman DIAMOND JEDI Re: BHollenegg on Updates « Reply #17 Today at 11:38am »
Hi Bob
I had a few questions and concerns..I know you may not know the answers, but I felt I would leave them out there anyway..
You said the cmkx trusts were in our control as of April 2010. Did we have the 3.87 trillion ? Just wondering since so many are now talking of dinar reval funding our trusts..This sickens me..
What happened to the SC directive that World Global Settlements had to be paid out in 2010 ? Chucky also had a SC directive for cmkx to be paid out in 2010 ? What happened to that ?
If our packet is postmarked Dec 31 2010, but we receive it five years down the road, is that still considered as abiding by the directive ? If so, I think it is a joke, and the USA better get off its high horse about being a country where rule of law prevails, and join the ranks of the corrupt third world nations..
How did we go from payment in 2010 or xmas to waiting on dinar rv ?
My only faint hope is that the IMF/UN can force a rv on the Iraqi dinar, because if you leave it to the Govt of Iraq, it would take a very long time..few months if you are optimistic, to years..Iraq is one of the most corrupt nations on earth, and the USA is not going to be far behind at this rate..
Do we expect any further delays after the dinar rv ?
Sorry if you don’t know Bob, I will ask Pongo since he is the expert on the..err…ahem… brilliant Maheu plan..
IMO cr
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:41:57 GMT -5
Today at 12:46pm, monalisasmiles wrote:
snoopstock5 King of Diamonds Re: Hodges and Associates 1/11/11 « Reply #67 Today at 4:44pm »
It was stated that money was already in a trust for Cmkm and most likely other companies involved in the "sting". We know from DD that Cmkm was not the only one. It is the "other" companies that most likely were not collected yet. All you had to do was look at the bail outs for countries. Hopefully the last country was bailed out and there is no more to come. The government will not release any money until ALL liability is gone. As I stated before, the ONLY liability they have left is for people that SOLD. That is most likey the Pre-recorded message. "If you bought and sold XXX company between XXX date and XXX date, please contact this LAWYER." They will not be getting any where near the money we will get, but it IS something. Once they cash in ALL LIABILITY IS GONE.
As I stated before, Al mentioned the $2.50 per share for a reason. You add RICO damages to that and it is $7.50 per share. That is "MAXIMUM VALUE". In fact, the banks are getting off cheap. That is where Chucky got his $5.60 from. The government took out 15% for taxes and of course they are gaining billions of dollars a day from OUR MONEY. I trust Al, Bob, Tramp, and Kenny 1000%. I certainly don't understand why the dinar or gold backed currency has anything to do with us getting paid. I have researched both and the RV on the dinar might not happen until 2013. Gold back currency I have researched also and they will not back our money with gold. Why? Because there is not enough gold to off-set our debt. Not only that, but it is wayyyyyyy to high.
All I want and I think many others do as well, is to GET ON WITH MY LIFE. Not have to sit on the edge of my seat and wait, wait, wait for maybe nothing to happen. I don't attack people and I sure as heck don't agree with it. However, LET THE SHAREHOLDERS KNOW, if we are still months or years away. Let us have some sort of closure for now. There are some shareholders THAT have MAJOR problems in their lives. That is why they are so worked up. You have no idea about other shareholders lives. Majority has left and gone. They are most likely the ones that are the luckiest. The 1 or 2 percent that stayed to fight for something they believed in are the stonger ones. However, everyone has their limit. Just read all the responses here that will give you an idea. I have always been one to be positive, but it comes to a point where you MUST BE REALISTIC and to prepare for a negative outgone that is why positive and negative works well together. If you only had positive, batteries, electricity, and others would NOT have been inventive. At this point being SUPPORTIVE, is the best answer. You don't know what I have been through and I don't know what you have been through. I have already told my kids this statement:
DO NOT JUDGE SOMEONE UNTIL YOU WALK A MILE IN THEIR SHOES, BECAUSE EVEN AFTER WALKING A MILE IN THEIR SHOES, YOU MAY ONLY BE HALF THEIR SIZE.
Do not judge someone until you have all the facts, or I should say THEIR FACTS.
Of course, all the above informative is just MY OPINION.
Even Dennis's post is both a postive and a negative. In the interest of clarifying the water, Al Hodges will have something to say to the shareholder base sometime in the next few days, at the latest by the end of the day Friday, January 14, 2011. In the interim (and ever after) we suggest that everyone untwist their knickers and simply be kind to one another.
Regards, Dennis Smith
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:45:27 GMT -5
Today at 7:24pm, bigdaddie wrote:
ssu DIAMOND JEDI Re: Weekly Buzz Chat 01/10/11 « Reply #225 Today at 7:36pm »
Funny you should ask. It did just like the clearing of the snow, just like the passing of the health bill, just like the passing of the financial reform bill, just like waiting for the Black farmers and native Indians to get paid, just like waiting for the newly elected officials to get updated on our situation, just like waiting for Cotrel to get paid, just like waiting for the money to clear the west coast bank, that one was very good by the way, and like many other excuses.
Any one expecting big news from Al's update is setting them self for big disappointment. IMO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2011 22:46:05 GMT -5
By: gr8hiker 12 Jan 2011, 08:45 PM EST Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 987400 of 987402 (Reply to 987381 by gr8hiker) Jump to msg. # Here's a note to Peter and Al: It's 7 years and counting and you've more then succeeded in confusing me , frustrating me , and proving beyond a shadow of a doubt ,that I will never totally understand the magnitude and importance of the assignment Robert Maheu undertook well over a decade ago. I also understand the task is not quite completed as of yet although I strongly believe the end is near. What I will never understand,basically being a caring, honest human being,is the callous indifference and daily emotional stress being enacted upon the shareholder base via patently false suggestions and excuses related to settlemnts. The utilization and manipulation of fellow shareholders being used as conduits ,the use of anonomous "sources"to build up false hopes, and to insult the intelligence of the entire base with your ridiculous excuses for delays is beyond belief after 15 months. A simple statement to the effect of"hang in there , we're working on it, bear with us' would have more then sufficed . Why the current approach was chosen we'll never know, but understand this. The heartache, the health , financial ,and emotional toll you've inflicted on too many people to count, won't be ameliorated by any settlement because the damage has already been done and there's many thing's money can't correct. In the coming days, until the finishline is crossed, just maybe for a fleeting second everyday, perhaps you'll allow your minds to acknowledge that we're out here , we're hurting, and maybe one less lie would go along way from a purely humanitanian aspect. Please don't take this as a lack of appreciation of your efforts for a better country and for righting the wrong inflicted upon us. WE get it , really we do> it's just that the feeling the heel of your boot metaphorically stomping on our collective faces every day with every new fabricated story ,is finally starting to really hurt and we want it to stop NOW. Just get it done and let us know.
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 12, 2011 23:28:03 GMT -5
portrush Administrator Re: the fight to release our money, then and now « Reply #17 Today at 5:05pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 2:58pm, gusjarvis wrote: There comes a time when all of us will say we've had enough. I don't remember the specifics from 8 months ago, but I was probably at the end of another rope. As things evolve, our discernment evolves as well. Not everything is black and white, cut and dry--at least for me. Its not about the concept of seeking truth, its about the process for doing so. I know I'm not alone in wanting to know what in the world is going on. Like many, I suspect, I've moved to the stage where closure is tantamount to many things. That said, there are lots of ways to accomplish a goal. I think you can agree with that. I'm wise enough to realize that for many my opinion simply doesn't count...but since you've led me there; I will say that based on what I've read, heard and otherwise witnessed--there isn't the continuity I would have liked to have seen. I get calls, PMs, emails and the like from all walks of life on the boards; prominent and quieter lurkers. I fielded messages from families torn apart, those intimating suicide, and utter frustration. Real people who don't want to be hurt, mislead, or suffer the angst of a continuing wait. I know a man who is very much involved in this who said to me just the other day..."you don't want closure any more than I do." Vitriol begets vitriol. Calling folks out accomplishes very little. That's just not something I can align myself with...I trust you can respect that. It's the ol' "different strokes for different folks" kind of thing. It's all out there, Gus. Real people struggling to deal with everything we read and hear...including this dialog, no doubt. I have nothing to suggest that I should change my opinion of Al Hodges as a man of character, integrity and unselfish concern for those to whom he is not legally obligated. That includes me. He hasn't called this game over yet...nor has Tyler. To me it suggests something more. I'm good until Friday, then I will assess after that. Respectfully, pr « Last Edit: Today at 7:04pm by portrush tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=15580
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