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Post by partymartypa2 on Jan 28, 2011 11:43:36 GMT -5
Thankyou Al and all plaintiffs and Dennis too..............And all un-named individuals involved~Hi Bob and Snifferpup. Did you notice on the Docketing Statement regarding appeal that there is a check mark made next to the Question "Will a settlement affect this appeal" Did I read that right? Marty
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Post by marbearcat on Jan 28, 2011 11:51:18 GMT -5
"if AH appeals to the Ninth Circuit, briefing and arguments well make take a year. At that point, the case is just remanded to the District Court for discovery, trial, etc. It is likely the Government would immediately appeal again on the privilege issue already raised. In short, for Al to win this, and for any meaningful Order or Judgment to result that could be enforced, it would be a few years off, at best. And that is if AH wins--which is be no means a given." .......gioprism Kinda looks like "checks ready to go out" was a fib.
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 28, 2011 12:00:45 GMT -5
;D ;DROFLMAO!!!! Look who brought the news!!!! Go2!!!! ;D ;D
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Post by e362 on Jan 28, 2011 12:01:13 GMT -5
Still don't quite understand why he is appealing this case if PM and GI are the holdup. Why not just go after them?
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Post by raidermike99 on Jan 28, 2011 12:09:08 GMT -5
Still don't quite understand why he is appealing this case if PM and GI are the holdup. Why not just go after them?
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Post by z06mike on Jan 28, 2011 12:16:06 GMT -5
Still don't quite understand why he is appealing this case if PM and GI are the holdup. Why not just go after them? Bingo!
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Post by rmclau4493 on Jan 28, 2011 12:16:21 GMT -5
Appeal? They must have more shares to sell. We should start a poll on how many shares Deli has sold. It has to be the reason for this game
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Jan 28, 2011 12:26:59 GMT -5
Why? ...because infrared says that's what's going on?
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Post by delusionalgrandeur on Jan 28, 2011 12:31:14 GMT -5
Well I guess I will apologize and say thanks Al.
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Post by cmkxbillionaire on Jan 28, 2011 12:31:34 GMT -5
Still don't quite understand why he is appealing this case if PM and GI are the holdup. Why not just go after them? Why? Who knows for sure, but there are some that believe that a government "fines and penalties" payout/settlement (rumored to be between .02 and .05 by a certain un-named individual) must be paid first before the trustee (PM/GI)? pays out. Possibly why AH keeps pushing on the federal court end of things? All pure speculation, IMO. I have no facts or "sources".
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Post by rmclau4493 on Jan 28, 2011 12:37:23 GMT -5
No Because it is the only thing that can be proven. If in fact we had a trust or Al was in contact with anyone in the government he could show facts. Instead he puts out all opinions that he could never be held accountable for.
Why would you anyone in the know sell shares that will be worth $6.00 per share.
The entire last year is a group of shareholders making money on the people buying
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Post by portrush on Jan 28, 2011 12:49:35 GMT -5
Still don't quite understand why he is appealing this case if PM and GI are the holdup. Why not just go after them? This works very well for Al because now the appeal goes to the 9th Circuit Court...that's a plus. It puts it in the right court for a Bivens suit and should the appeal be granted, opens the door to discovery...which is where the real pressure exists. Its terrific strategy, especially if you know this is headed to appeal at the onset. Hodges has been around the bend a few times and has won three or four Bivens cases previously. Obviously this didn't take him by surprise. I'm guessing that if payment would have, or still does, occur before court he could withdraw this in a nano-second. But unlike those who have whined and screamed about "going to do something if..." Hodges actually has stepped up and DID something to ensure there are no "ifs." I can't see this as anything but good. Would it not have been worse if he said, "forget it, I'm done"...I think so. Filing the appeal sets precedent for continuation. Proof doesn't come until discovery stage and that could be a ways off. But it is moving...which is better than being dormant. Perhaps Lumiere can add some qualified opinion on the matter. pr
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Post by z06mike on Jan 28, 2011 13:53:49 GMT -5
Still don't quite understand why he is appealing this case if PM and GI are the holdup. Why not just go after them? This works very well for Al because now the appeal goes to the 9th Circuit Court...that's a plus. It puts it in the right court for a Bivens suit and should the appeal be granted, opens the door to discovery...which is where the real pressure exists. Its terrific strategy, especially if you know this is headed to appeal at the onset. Hodges has been around the bend a few times and has won three or four Bivens cases previously. Obviously this didn't take him by surprise. I'm guessing that if payment would have, or still does, occur before court he could withdraw this in a nano-second. But unlike those who have whined and screamed about "going to do something if..." Hodges actually has stepped up and DID something to ensure there are no "ifs." I can't see this as anything but good. Would it not have been worse if he said, "forget it, I'm done"...I think so. Filing the appeal sets precedent for continuation. Proof doesn't come until discovery stage and that could be a ways off. But it is moving...which is better than being dormant. Perhaps Lumiere can add some qualified opinion on the matter. pr Port, That would be of great comfort if appeal was planned from the beginning. I don't remember appeal being part of any strategy presented to us. If you have something to share along those lines, please do so. TIA, Mike
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Post by sunbeam777 on Jan 28, 2011 14:06:00 GMT -5
Thankyou Al and all plaintiffs and Dennis too..............And all un-named individuals involved~Hi Bob and Snifferpup. Did you notice on the Docketing Statement regarding appeal that there is a check mark made next to the Question "Will a settlement affect this appeal" Did I read that right? Marty hockeyfan_10: no formal appeal coz he knows checks are about to go out imo
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Post by portrush on Jan 28, 2011 14:20:24 GMT -5
Port, That would be of great comfort if appeal was planned from the beginning. I don't remember appeal being part of any strategy presented to us. If you have something to share along those lines, please do so. TIA, Mike I don't remember any part of any strategy presented to us. All I've read is updates shared to try to bring comfort to those chanting "lions and tigers and bears--oh my." Hodges didn't just get off the boat and it would be very surprising to me if he didn't have his strategies well-defined, delineated and planned for various stages. I would as a businessman, certainly someone of his experience would too. The man apparently has a head start of several years--and several years worth of information; detailed and confidential. I doubt he will be compelled to share it with anyone just because they "want him to" or because they're making noise in the process. I trust him. Seems an odd statement considering he owes me nothing--I'm not a client--so perhaps its best to say; I trust my knowledge of the man, his achievements, his direction, and his apparent gravitas for taking up the battle in the first place. pr
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