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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 6, 2011 9:28:38 GMT -5
briwadd God of Diamonds Re: ***Rumor Discussion Thread*** « Reply #43 Yesterday at 7:47pm »
For you rumor lovers!!.. I received this email from someone I contact periodically. The best thing about this contact, they have nothing to do with CMKX!!
From everything I hear -- and I am not a CMKX expert (I have all I can do staying up with Lee Wanta's situation) -- CMKX is close to payment. Hodges is rumored to have gotten $15 billion for his client, Michael Cottrell (though I have difficulty with the statement; I did, however, hear it).
Lee Wanta's money is in no way tied to CMKX. His money is his money, earned in the business community and the result of selling business assets in the Far East. The money was put in the People's Bank of China (the Chinese Central Bank) and was wire transferred by them via a CHIPS wire to AmeriTrust, Lee Wanta's company, at the Bank of America in Richmond, VA. That happened in 2006 and Lee has been awaiting payment ever since. He sold the assets as a result of an Order and Decision by Judge Gerald Bruce Lee in the Virginia Federal District Court in which Judge Lee determined that the assets sold belong to Lee Wanta, not the federal government.
That said, I do believe the various funds, including CMKX, are all part of a large pool. There is an order in which people will be paid and Lee must be paid before CMKX. As for Nesara or the other various World Funds, I have no idea. I think most of them are a scam... but don't claim to be an expert on the subject.
I hope that helps, Brian.
Regards, ***********
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 6, 2011 9:34:32 GMT -5
thanks Bikinipro.....
bhollenegg bHollenegg Updates « Thread Started Today at 7:06am »
All Shareholders,
I have stated many times that I will keep the Shareholders updated with what is transpiring as long as the information provided does not interrupt or hinder the work Attorney Hodges is doing to release the funds. I have expressed that the information I provide is what I know and understand what is transpiring.
I post the information so that Shareholders have an alternative source of information and verification. I have stated several times, "the information I post is accurate and current at the time I post the information, however changes do occur after the information is posted". I also conveyed that I am not sent to the forums to post the updates to the Shareholders. I have never stated that I am the spokesperson for Attorney Hodges and his Firm.
Unfortunately there are a few Shareholders who do not appreciate the information shared by others and have taken steps to stop the flow of information. Attorney Hodges is being constantly bombarded and interrupted with messages as follows:
"This is painstakingly frustrating. I have to ask you if Bhollenegg speaks for you? If he doesn't, please tell him not post as if he is. We have had enough of that. Thank you Al for all you do. Dan"
Again, I have stated many times that I will keep the Shareholders updated with what is transpiring as long as the information provided does not interrupt or hinder the work Attorney Hodges is doing to release the funds. My sincere apology to Attorney Hodges and his Staff for any problems and inconveniences I and others have caused as a result of my updates.
I am a strong believer in the Freedom of Speech. There are many Shareholders who served in the Military, just as I did, putting our lives on the line to protect this important Right. Every one has a Right to Freedom of Speech, however with this Right there comes responsibilities and accountabilities. Just as we have the Right to Bear arms, this does not give us the Right to shoot anyone if we disagree with them. If we abuse our Rights, we will lose our Rights. The message forums provides the Shareholders a place where they can exercise their Rights. When it gets to the stage where a few Shareholders are intentionally doing what they can to disrespect, disrupt or suppress the flow of information, it is time to clean house and make it Right.
My sincere appreciation to all of the Shareholders, Attorney Hodges and all Admin Personnel who have made this journey a memorable one, one which I will forever cherish and respect, one which I will never regret or forget.
All the best , BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 6, 2011 9:35:39 GMT -5
ty Seagull.....
Posted Thrusday night thanks PJ
(8:30 PM) leighto111: b52hr: Us Treasury was turned on the night before last....... start looking at your door steps and or waiting for a knock on your door.... CMKX has to fund the US Treasury before they RV.... this is happening folks..... RV has happened, just can't go public until the Properity programs all sixty of them are funded... whis is now in the progress... should be recieving your package this week or mid next week.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 8, 2011 17:51:41 GMT -5
ty sweetsp7......
Re: ***Rumor Discussion Thread*** « Reply #56 Yesterday at 10:59pm »
Today at 5:38pm, mikesboyd wrote: Bob, about a week ago..you mentioned that in the next 2 weeks, you feel that we'll either have payment in hand or confirmation of payment. Do you still feel this way to date? If that's the case, that gives us about a week. I know that puts you on the spot but you are one of the few on here that many trust these days. Also, I know that you personally trust Al Hodges but do you have any doubt, even remotely, that the info about .80 cents per share and other info that he's shared could be false or have been used for other motives to sway us? Your openess and honestly is greatly appreciated among many and I know I've always appreciated it. Thank you kind sir.
From Harvescorvette I will answer with what I know and am allowed. I realize this was directed for Robert, my answers are in green, and will add IMHO should be needed.
Bob, about a week ago..you mentioned that in the next 2 weeks, you feel that we'll either have payment in hand or confirmation of payment.( Yes, expecting confirmation by May 12 2011) Do you still feel this way to date?( Yes with the work being done in behind the scenes YES ) If that's the case, that gives us about a week. I know that puts you on the spot but you are one of the few on here that many trust these days. Also, I know that you personally trust Al Hodges but do you have any doubt, even remotely, that the info about .80 cents per share and other info that he's shared could be false( The information issued by Mr. Hodges is accurate and IS NOT FALSE. Shareholders will be pleased with the F&P ) or have been used for other motives to sway us?( Mr. Hodges is a man of Integrity to suggest otherwise, that there are other motives is erroneous on any shareholders thinking ) Your openess and honestly is greatly appreciated among many and I know I've always appreciated it.
Harv
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 8, 2011 17:54:04 GMT -5
Yesterday at 5:38pm, mikesboyd wrote:
Bob,
1. about a week ago..you mentioned that in the next 2 weeks, you feel that we'll either have payment in hand or confirmation of payment. Do you still feel this way to date?
2. If that's the case, that gives us about a week. I know that puts you on the spot but you are one of the few on here that many trust these days.
3. Also, I know that you personally trust Al Hodges but do you have any doubt, even remotely, that the info about .80 cents per share and other info that he's shared could be false or have been used for other motives to sway us?
4. Your openess and honestly is greatly appreciated among many and I know I've always appreciated it. Thank you kind sir.
BHollenegg
Hello Mike..... 1. Yes, I still feel this way to date.
2. I shared what I know is transpiring. I do not have any control over the changes, the decisions, the amounts, the ones involved, or the schedule of the releases. I do have control on whether to share or not to share what I know. Most shareholders want to know what I know, therefore I share because I care about the shareholders and I have a great respect for the shareholders.
3. I was not sent to the forums; I am not the spokesperson for Attorney Hodges and Associates or any other entity; and I am not being controlled by anyone, therefore if I have any doubts or have any knowledge of any information verified as not being correct, I will inform the shareholders. I do not have any doubts that the 80 cents/share is part of the funds to be released. It was not used to sway the shareholders or used for any other ulterior motive. It is part of the funds due to the shareholders and it will be released to the shareholders... Attorney Hodges is applying legal pressure to make sure the release does happen.
4. Thank you Sir.
All the best, BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 8, 2011 17:55:48 GMT -5
ty sweetsp7....
Today at 4:31am, dicek18 wrote:
Bob, It was a few years ago that yourself and AH were teamed together, working to locate our settlement trust and the focus at that time was on the DTCC. I believe that a DTCC staffer (forget his name) had admitted to some posters - ChrisL and others over a speakerphone - that a CMKX Trust existed, but later on the staffer claimed he misspoke and denied that the DTCC had the trust or that it even existed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you and AH then decide to put your collaborative search on hold for a while?
Some months passed and Al Hodges then recruited 7 plaintiffs together and filed the Bivens Action, claiming that a trust of $3.87 trillion was being withheld from us by the SEC.
Obviously, it looks like AH found evidence of the trust, gathered the plaintiffs together, and then filed the Bivens Action.
1. Did AH ever tell you on what basis he believed that the trust existed?
2. Did he say that others told him about the trust, and that's how he came about this information?
3. Though he's never provided any plaintiff with proof, did AH tell you that he personally saw evidence of the trust and that he based the Bivens Action on this evidence?
Just looking to piece together what may have happened during the time period when your collaboration with AH was put on hold, and when AH filed the Bivens Action.
Because it's during this period of time when AH may've discovered the existence of the trust.
Thanks Bob!
BHollenegg
Hello Dicek, Your questions are very good, but require a considerable amount of background explanation. An abbreviated response would open up more questions and misinterpretations. The fact that we are about to finish our journey, I do not feel it is prudent or constructive to provide these details at this stage. There are entities who are not working in the best interest of the Shareholders. The ones working on releasing the funds to the shareholders have been threatened with lawsuits. I was contacted by an attorney who said he would take me to court unless we
1. Provide information what Attorney Hodges has and what he is doing...
2. Pay the Attorney and his friends and they will go away.
I am focused on providing what updates I can to the Shareholders of the present and future situation as long as the information does not jeopardize or cause an delays in releasing the funds to the shareholders.
Thank you Dicek for your understanding , BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 8, 2011 17:57:08 GMT -5
By Portrush: When will it happen / Where is the Trust? « Thread Started Today at 11:35am »
So I was talking to someone slightly older and much wiser than me the other day. He's a CMKX shareholder too...doesn't post much, likes to fly below the radar, but has a strong grip on all we're trudging through. I say "trudging" cause this seems nothing like a walk in the park.
I asked him... in his opinion what the likelihood was of us hearing a date--a deadline that could be trusted. Something "leaked" if you will. At least we could shelve the emotion until that time. He reminded me there have been many deadlines (as has been indicated in the past) and said; unfortunately, in a mess this large, complex and world encompassing, deadlines apparently are freely sacrificed to accommodate completeness, fairness and correctness. Pretty sage, so I thought I would share it with everyone so you could noodle on it too.
In the end that is probably the correct approach given what’s at stake and what’s involved...if you can wrap your arms around all of it. Its challenging, I will admit. And as much as I don't like hearing all that...it does make sense to me on some level. Several levels, actually. Whether you believe in the sting theory or the WGS or just the complexity of it all...it seems logical that they get one shot to do this right. If its as big as has been speculated, it is no doubt very complex. And from all the rumors out there...this has never been done before (if true) so I can see where they must take all the time necessary to get it right. Whoever "they" are.
We spoke about the Trust. I'm thinking it will never be known, not even after payment. Why? Because if it was funded by those who had to pay penalty fees (as we've heard) then I'm thinking they paid those fees in exchange for two things: anonymity and not admitting guilt. Naming the Trust puts both at risk. If nothing else, that would be all it would take in a lawsuit...calling them as witnesses to the fact they paid a fine.
Additionally, to identify the Trust is to invite breaching that agreement--hence it won't be known, nor the Trustee(s). Moreover, if evidence in a previous trial (perhaps sealed) its further argument for it never being known, imo, nor the Trustee(s). My friends reply--agreed, never to be known. So at least we're on the same page there. And he reminded me that because of the enormity, much of what we're reading and hearing is indeed, misinfo, disinfo and then our usual speculation. There are "sides" at work still...for whatever purpose you can imagine.
On another note, everyone keeps saying the Trust is $3.8 trillion. I will admit I've not gone back and researched this...but I seem to remember that Hodges is suing for $3.8, but never said the Trust WAS $3.8. Is that right? Have we just adapted his words into something we thought we heard...or did the Bivens actually say the Trust had this amount??
To some degree it is moot. My opinion is "just send the check"...I want to hear it is over more than I care to hear how much it is. Not that how much isn't important, it is. But until its declared "done" it might as well be a Quadrillion or $100 a share...matters not, to me.
Food for thought, perhaps, but only opinion just the same.
pr
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 8, 2011 21:29:07 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 08 May 2011, 09:14 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 1015531 of 1015552 Jump to msg. # TYLER stated categorically a shareholder meeting, June 2011! YAHOOO!! TYLER to announce SHAREHOLDER meeting this month!! BE PREPARED. we've waited a YEAR since TYLER announced a shareholder meeting would be held within "A YEAR!!"
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 8, 2011 21:48:37 GMT -5
portrush Administrator Re: When will it happen / Where is the Trust? « Reply #17 Today at 8:02pm » Hey thanks zerftony!
You see...the first quote is ambiguous to me. In classic Hodges style, you could say he is seeking damages for that amount...not that the Trust is that amount. I could argue either way.
The second quote however, seems to be more clear. And I hope so! I can't wrap my arms or head around it...but I'm not going to argue it. I will cash whatever they send my way, the bigger the better. LOL!
Appreciate you doing that, very much.
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Dutch, I've heard the "inside scoop" on so many numbers from so many people, I'm not sure which numbers are the accurate ones to "do the math" with. And that's why I've not really focused on any number as much as I have closure. It's also why I have as much, if not more, concern about hearing from Tyler...the company I invested in. Once they head back to trading, release core sample valuation, merge into New Corp, etc., etc., we get this thing rolling. What Al is feverishly working on is icing on the cake, IMO. So I'm looking for the notice that says, "congratulations...the wait is over."
bhollenegg DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: When will it happen / Where is the Trust? « Reply #20 Today at 9:14pm »
PR....you may have difficulties believing the 'inside scoop' ...I know what I heard first hand and there was no ambiguity...great post and thread.
Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 9, 2011 16:35:04 GMT -5
thanks Sunbeam777
By: cbaughan 09 May 2011, 04:18 PM EDT
Great Post: My brother (Rivertrader1000) and I have spent a lot of time on our CMKX scenario over the past several years. We’re not gurus, and certainly not guru wannabes – just two CMKX shareholders who, quietly over the last several years, have gotten many people involved in the stock with the hope and confidence that it will change their lives forever.
The paragraphs below are not based on any insider information – we have no secret sources aside from a friend or two who shares their opinion occasionally. Most of this, we all have known for sometime now, but we feel it’s prudent to put it in perspective given the fact that the company has made several statements of what is about to happen. The more we remind ourselves of these things, the more convinced we are that we're a matter of days away from receiving the beginnings of our ROI.
Some things that may seem apparent: Why would a defunct, broke pennystock company like CMKM go to the trouble and significant expense to prepare and file ALL tax returns back to 2002? Obviously so that they could meet the necessary requirements to trade on a public stock exchange again. But why trade? If there is no present value and no anticipated future value to the company, why bother?
Why would this same inconsequential penny stock company go to the trouble and very considerable expense to hire a first-rate transfer agent firm to ENSURE that all stockholders’ contact information is correct and current? To be able to form an accurate and up to date shareholder database is the obvious answer. Why? And where did the money come from to pay for it? We’re broke, remember?
Why has the company not released their recently filed 2010 tax return? Could there be significant financial information on possible joint venture arrangements contained in the return that needs to remain confidential until a later date? As the date looms near for the shareholders meeting (prior to June 25), it might be important to reflect on a few statements that the company has made. First, that the shareholders meeting "will be an extremely large undertaking with a great deal of organizational and monetary requirements to make it happen correctly" (from the June 25, 2010 company update AND the February 26, 2011 update). What does that mean? "Extremely large" and "great deal of monetary requirements" signal to us that it will be celebratory and monumental affair in nature and one not likely to be held at a local Holiday Inn.
Also from the February 26, 2011 update: "The NEW CO, J/V agreement with 1010 is still a valid opportunity for our company. 1010 and CMKM have worked together throughout the year to develop a business plan however at this time, the Company has been unable to provide the large amount of funds needed to move this venture forward."
That statement begets one important question: Why would you even enter into talks with 1010 if you didn't EXPECT to have the money to move forward? Or, put differently, the company KNOWS they will have the money to move forward, otherwise they would not waste a year discussing it and getting it ready to go. From the same February 26, 2011 update: "Mr. Koch has continued to secure the claims that hold potential value for the NEW Co and ultimately the sake of the shareholders. We are very confident in our partnership." Note that the last sentence was set in bold type by the company. They're not just confident…or fairly confident, they are very confident...they're even "in bold type" very confident! How confident is that! We know we're doing a little reading between the lines here, but does it not sound to you like the upcoming shareholders' meeting is going to be a pretty big shindig to kick off the new phase of our soon-to-be prosperous journey?
We can't help but think there is an excellent chance that we will have money in hand before the meeting. Why? Well, ask yourself this question: If you were in charge, would you schedule the shareholder's meeting knowing that several hundred somewhat broke, despondent and pissed off shareholders might show up? We wouldn't. It would be an invitation to disaster. We think the last thing the company (and Urban) would take a chance on is another shareholder's meeting like the last one. Both the company and the shareholders have been on this train ride for a very long time. The company is very cognizant of what we have all been through and suffice it to say that this time the band will play, the balloons will fall and the fat lady will sing! How much money? A penny a share? A nickel? Fifty cents? Eight dollars? Your guess. We're thinking, "watch the mail over the next few days/weeks". The notice for the shareholders meeting (and quite possibly much, much more) just might be in your mailbox very soon. Happy Mothers Day! Overlap Rivertrader1000
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Post by soonerlew on May 11, 2011 1:37:26 GMT -5
June 22 - July 22 It looks like your ship is about to come in, Cancer. The planetary configuration indicates that you can expect additional financial resources, perhaps a raise. You deserve it! You've been working long and hard these past several months. You've earned the respect of authority figures and the admiration of peers. Be careful not to fritter away the extra money. Put some aside for a rainy day.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 12, 2011 12:29:07 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 08 May 2011, 09:14 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 1015531 of 1015552 Jump to msg. # TYLER stated categorically a shareholder meeting, June 2011! YAHOOO!! TYLER to announce SHAREHOLDER meeting this month!! BE PREPARED. we've waited a YEAR since TYLER announced a shareholder meeting would be held within "A YEAR!!" thsanks seagull thanks pj Re: ALL PALTALK UPDATES HERE.. « Reply #1044 Today at 4:37 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (7:13 PM) Earl is My Name: "CMKM intends to hold its first ever official shareholder’s meeting within the next 12 months. As you could imagine, this event will be an extremely large undertaking with a great deal of organizational and monetary requirements to make it happen correctly. " ~ K. West 6/25/10 (7:14 PM) Earl is My Name: "To begin preparing for this event now, it will be necessary to have current information for as many shareholders as possible. If you intend to be able to vote via proxy you will need to have a certificate in your name and have a current address on file with the transfer agent. "
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 14, 2011 0:49:19 GMT -5
ty bikinipro
zerftony Re: bHollenegg Updates « Reply #177 Yesterday at 10:07pm » Harv... with the respect I have for you.... I don't understand why you are leaving us hanging regarding your 5/12 prediction
.....without an explanation as to why nothing happened
"hope lies eternal"
harvscorvette I am not leaving you hanging at all. May 12 2011 the most important date EVER. There has been so much accomplished the waiting is painful, the end result will be wonderful. It would be foolish to say more at this point.
Harv
mgpaul Hey Harv did you see the Al Hodge letter dated May 12th where he is asking The White Hats of all people for help in releasing the funds? So if we are sooooo close as you insist why is Al pulling this most desperate move.
This whole thing is just sick.
harvscorvette There is no desperate move. Now both barrels are loaded and legally to fire at will.
Harv
Cliffette Harv, Are you saying that Al has now legally given "them" their final notice of payment due, and the consequences of what he will do if payment is not immediately forthcoming? That's how I read it. That he is saying, last chance,or else time's up and now I will expose you all.
All IMO of course.
harvscorvette UNBELIEVABLE! FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT! Legal capacity to go public now without restraint.
cool coming your way Harv
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 14, 2011 12:41:10 GMT -5
By: gotoil1870 14 May 2011, 11:45 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 1016870 of 1016890 Jump to msg. # THE NEXT 4 WEEKS SHOULD B VERY INTERESTING...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 14, 2011 12:47:18 GMT -5
Yesterday at 11:59am, sandye14 wrote:So Al was told to sit down and shut up and wait for the "grand finale". I wonder what happened to make him stand up and start shouting. Go get 'em Al!!
bhollenegg me...
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