Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 28, 2011 17:16:09 GMT -5
By: jfarn
28 Sep 2011, 11:27 AM EDT
Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 1039066 of 1039158
(Reply to 1039044 by retireman)
Worth a read or discussion.
retireman
28 Sep 2011, 08:35 AM EDT Msg. 1039044 of 1039065
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
The short should not be solved on the trading market. That would be stupid and detrimental to the shareholders. The brokers and market makers will simply keep the price down to nothing and just buy out the short. People would just unload to get something.. and nobody would benefit.. It is stupid..
The short should be exposed and the brokers should be brought to the table.. unless they already were, and the was a settlement and the powers that be don't want the shareholders to know.
The company is negligent two fold here.. first, they have knowledge of the short, through the brokerage statements and I am sure, trading records they have acquired. Not using this information is damaging to the shareholders.
Second, if they have knowledge of any settlement, they are culpable of fraud by not coming clean..
Either way, they are not living up to their legal responsibilities, neither the BOD or management.. and then one has to ask the question why??
But these are questions that many people, including government officials are finally looking at..
Yeah, where is that PR.. Guess, it is finally be time to give the IR guy a call..
Good Luck...
Retire...
By: jonathonanders
28 Sep 2011, 12:03 PM EDT
Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 1039072 of 1039170
(Reply to 1039066 by jfarn)
JFARN
The remedy for covering a fail to deliver, is to buy back in the market.
The only way to get the brokers on the NSS would be to sue.
Whether anyone likes it or not, it takes TONS of money to do that.
and even with that, we have alot more problems than taser..and certainly
Byrne "O" have. No filings, no business, and of course, no money.
I find it hilarious that people say, having no money is no excuse!!
oh really? The docs from the taser suit showed discovery alone went into
the millions. Both taser and Overstock had value, a product. filings. etc. we had zip to take to court.Point being..not saying we werent harmed..but our battle would be a much tougher mountain to climb than those 2 companies.
and to the fraud charge for not revealing a trust. IF there is a trust
and IF tyler has some knowledge of it, its mandated. To say, of lets
get tyler for fraud, but no mention of Bob Maheu lying in depositions
in 07.. or peter maheus comments of no money, sec saying theres no money DOJ says no money.. but hey.. lets get tyler for fraud.
Whats the justification, if the federal govt is stating it in no uncertain terms, geee.. if its there why didnt tyler say so.
Childish argument.
28 Sep 2011, 11:27 AM EDT
Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 1039066 of 1039158
(Reply to 1039044 by retireman)
Worth a read or discussion.
retireman
28 Sep 2011, 08:35 AM EDT Msg. 1039044 of 1039065
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
The short should not be solved on the trading market. That would be stupid and detrimental to the shareholders. The brokers and market makers will simply keep the price down to nothing and just buy out the short. People would just unload to get something.. and nobody would benefit.. It is stupid..
The short should be exposed and the brokers should be brought to the table.. unless they already were, and the was a settlement and the powers that be don't want the shareholders to know.
The company is negligent two fold here.. first, they have knowledge of the short, through the brokerage statements and I am sure, trading records they have acquired. Not using this information is damaging to the shareholders.
Second, if they have knowledge of any settlement, they are culpable of fraud by not coming clean..
Either way, they are not living up to their legal responsibilities, neither the BOD or management.. and then one has to ask the question why??
But these are questions that many people, including government officials are finally looking at..
Yeah, where is that PR.. Guess, it is finally be time to give the IR guy a call..
Good Luck...
Retire...
By: jonathonanders
28 Sep 2011, 12:03 PM EDT
Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 1039072 of 1039170
(Reply to 1039066 by jfarn)
JFARN
The remedy for covering a fail to deliver, is to buy back in the market.
The only way to get the brokers on the NSS would be to sue.
Whether anyone likes it or not, it takes TONS of money to do that.
and even with that, we have alot more problems than taser..and certainly
Byrne "O" have. No filings, no business, and of course, no money.
I find it hilarious that people say, having no money is no excuse!!
oh really? The docs from the taser suit showed discovery alone went into
the millions. Both taser and Overstock had value, a product. filings. etc. we had zip to take to court.Point being..not saying we werent harmed..but our battle would be a much tougher mountain to climb than those 2 companies.
and to the fraud charge for not revealing a trust. IF there is a trust
and IF tyler has some knowledge of it, its mandated. To say, of lets
get tyler for fraud, but no mention of Bob Maheu lying in depositions
in 07.. or peter maheus comments of no money, sec saying theres no money DOJ says no money.. but hey.. lets get tyler for fraud.
Whats the justification, if the federal govt is stating it in no uncertain terms, geee.. if its there why didnt tyler say so.
Childish argument.