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Post by portrush on May 14, 2012 11:34:41 GMT -5
Can somebody explain how the Hell can Kirkpatrick start up a company and have 50,000 shareholders own a portion with out paying anything? Kinda sucks for anybody who wants to purchase share to become apart of this distinctional family. And then that new investor will do basic research on this new company and come to what conclusion about making this investment. Nobody in their right mind would ever invest with a sore position like ours. If Kirkpatrick isn't, can't or won't address that issue. Then he has only one reason to be here. To use his business expertise to profit from doing what he has made a career of. Collect compensation for services. To add injury to insult, Kirkpatrick was appointed by the very scum who has done exactly this for the last decade. Where's the Financials? Probably been asking for how many years now? Start a company? It exists already...the domicile was moved, nothing more. There are no shares for sale by the company. There are indeed companies that invest in distressed situations. I've been dealing with a $90 Billion such entity for 8 years now. They exist, they're tough, they purpose to raid assets and they live in the courts. But they don't always win. (LOL) The word is dysfunctional, not "distinctional." (a non-word) Although it does appear to be distinctly dysfunctional at times. Kirkpatrick was appointed by a Board Director. There were none 10 years ago. Are you speaking of the financials that have been posted on the company website for some time now? pr
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on May 14, 2012 12:04:20 GMT -5
SK did say something about selling shares. He also said he would look into it to see if it was legit to do.. This would all be done for the core test..
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Post by super on May 14, 2012 12:11:33 GMT -5
So today is the day right!?!
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Post by portrush on May 14, 2012 13:42:48 GMT -5
SK did say something about selling shares. He also said he would look into it to see if it was legit to do.. This would all be done for the core test.. He mentioned looking into making additional shares available to anyone who further invested into the company to offset the costs of testing the core samples. Funding for core sample tests has been made on more than one occasion and in ample amount. Nothing was guaranteed. He also stated he was unsure of the legality for doing that. It wasn't presented as selling shares, per se. I understand its a matter of phrasing. Having spent hours talking with the man, I am convinced he's no dummy and likely not prone to make the mistake of doing something without thoroughly researching it first. Ish made it sound like he was going to open the back door and start selling. Until the company trades, that won't happen. pr
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on May 14, 2012 13:56:20 GMT -5
SK did say something about selling shares. He also said he would look into it to see if it was legit to do.. This would all be done for the core test.. He mentioned looking into making additional shares available to anyone who further invested into the company to offset the costs of testing the core samples. Funding for core sample tests has been made on more than one occasion and in ample amount. Nothing was guaranteed. He also stated he was unsure of the legality for doing that. It wasn't presented as selling shares, per se. I understand its a matter of phrasing. Having spent hours talking with the man, I am convinced he's no dummy and likely not prone to make the mistake of doing something without thoroughly researching it first. Ish made it sound like he was going to open the back door and start selling. Until the company trades, that won't happen. pr I hear what your saying port.. I also think the man is very sharp and knows what he is doing.. As far as Ish goes, that's as far as I will go with what I have to say about him.. ;D
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on May 15, 2012 12:39:24 GMT -5
By: king1000 15 May 2012, 12:03 PM CDT Rating: post rating 4 Rate this post: Msg. 1089330 of 1089391 (Reply to 1089322 by king1000) Jump to msg. # Lastly, and very, very exciting to me.. after years of delay by former management, we finally, i believe, will find out very important truths quickly through the litigation of the naked short issue, if this tx firm, be it Wes Christian or whomever, takes on the case. Mr. Kirkpatrick has assured me if they don't, he will seek out other representation, including the taser law firm in Atlanta, to possibly help us out. It is my understanding that this law firm, supposedly one of the best in the country at this type of litigation, was interested in our case and solicited the company, then examined the records and evidence, and in doing so, established that we have a case. Our settlement agreement specifies a timeline in which the company must secure representation or the plaintiffs will be allowed access to any naked shorting materials they request or require to take action on their own. The other important aspect of this "Naked Short" litigation is this.. it will once and for all put to rest the matter of the trust. In one phone call to a brokerage, Ameritrade for example.. when this law firm calls and says "we are probably going to take action against you for the shorting of cmkx.. there is rumor you already made a settlement.. is that true or not".. If true and money was collected, then the Urban/Maheu/Hodges/Conspiracy/Sting/Operation stuff was all true.. If not, and no settlement was made.. it was all bs.. pure and simple.. so all shareholders should have that answer very shortly.. and i welcome that day..You well know, if the brokers really did pay, there is no way that they will pay twice. What i consider one shocking revelation that came to light, to me at least, which i believe the shareholders need to know.. is that Bill Frizzell forwarded to the sec a copy of the Owner's Group cd that contained the data of brokerage statements obtained from the shareholders by the Owners Group solicitation to tabulate their holdings in order to prove a naked short. As we know from the 2005 Frizzell letters to brokerages, by tabulating just a small percentage of stock held by shareholders at each brokerage, it was clear that a huge naked short occurred.. in the Ameritrade example, with about 3,000 shareholder accounts reporting, we almost reached the total of shares issued and held by Ameritrade, yet there were still some 15,000 accounts to go. So the sec had all this information, and did nothing. (Remember Bernie Madoff???) That, in my eyes, puts them in collusion to protect the crime perpetrated by the naked shorting of this stock against the shareholders. In other words, they are liable. Where was Tyler... they wasted years of peoples' lives, instead of publicly forcing the hand of the sec to right this enormous wrong. And to this day, what has been done??? i was absolutely incensed finding this out. How this serves us now is that if the law firm that is going to take on this litigation brings this matter up to the sec, i would hope that they can leverage the sec into playing ball with us and help facilitate a naked short settlement, even though, to my understanding, research and interaction with securities commissions, the naked short must and should be attacked on a state by state basis. The states' laws are what is going to win the case for us. btw, Exhibit b, #3, was pretty much written by Mr. Frizzell as an edit to our negotiation, so this came from him, not me.. Please also refer to Exhibit b, #7-8.. same thing...Another thing, why wasn't this type of information used or mentioned in the Bivens.. Seems to me, presenting this evidence in court would have been a slam dunk, to show collusion on the part of the sec. We can only hope that these wasted years finally pay off for all of us with the upcoming naked short litigation by a competent law firm. That is our only hope here, in regards to this. As far as the statute of limitations that apply here, since the shareholders have not been made aware of the naked short evidence and have never been privy to it, a class action should be able to proceed, by the shareholders, not the company, since no timetable has begun relating to the shareholders as a class. As far as the former liability the former company officers may have for sitting on this evidence.....well.......I also believe there was a us Supreme Court ruling that addressed this situation, in our favor. That is for this expert legal firm to figure out. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=1089330Read more: cmkxhottub.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2658#ixzz1uxeQm0V1
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Post by Tommycmkx on May 15, 2012 22:58:21 GMT -5
Let's have an IPO at about 10 dollars. CMKM bigger and better than Facebook, but a much better deal than 38 dollars.
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Post by cmkxerlong on May 16, 2012 2:27:20 GMT -5
By: king1000 15 May 2012, 12:03 PM CDT Rating: post rating 4 Rate this post: Msg. 1089330 of 1089391 (Reply to 1089322 by king1000) Jump to msg. # Lastly, and very, very exciting to me.. after years of delay by former management, we finally, i believe, will find out very important truths quickly through the litigation of the naked short issue, if this tx firm, be it Wes Christian or whomever, takes on the case. Mr. Kirkpatrick has assured me if they don't, he will seek out other representation, including the taser law firm in Atlanta, to possibly help us out. It is my understanding that this law firm, supposedly one of the best in the country at this type of litigation, was interested in our case and solicited the company, then examined the records and evidence, and in doing so, established that we have a case. Our settlement agreement specifies a timeline in which the company must secure representation or the plaintiffs will be allowed access to any naked shorting materials they request or require to take action on their own. The other important aspect of this "Naked Short" litigation is this.. it will once and for all put to rest the matter of the trust. In one phone call to a brokerage, Ameritrade for example.. when this law firm calls and says "we are probably going to take action against you for the shorting of cmkx.. there is rumor you already made a settlement.. is that true or not".. If true and money was collected, then the Urban/Maheu/Hodges/Conspiracy/Sting/Operation stuff was all true.. If not, and no settlement was made.. it was all bs.. pure and simple.. so all shareholders should have that answer very shortly.. and i welcome that day..You well know, if the brokers really did pay, there is no way that they will pay twice. What i consider one shocking revelation that came to light, to me at least, which i believe the shareholders need to know.. is that Bill Frizzell forwarded to the sec a copy of the Owner's Group cd that contained the data of brokerage statements obtained from the shareholders by the Owners Group solicitation to tabulate their holdings in order to prove a naked short. As we know from the 2005 Frizzell letters to brokerages, by tabulating just a small percentage of stock held by shareholders at each brokerage, it was clear that a huge naked short occurred.. in the Ameritrade example, with about 3,000 shareholder accounts reporting, we almost reached the total of shares issued and held by Ameritrade, yet there were still some 15,000 accounts to go. So the sec had all this information, and did nothing. (Remember Bernie Madoff???) That, in my eyes, puts them in collusion to protect the crime perpetrated by the naked shorting of this stock against the shareholders. In other words, they are liable. Where was Tyler... they wasted years of peoples' lives, instead of publicly forcing the hand of the sec to right this enormous wrong. And to this day, what has been done??? i was absolutely incensed finding this out. How this serves us now is that if the law firm that is going to take on this litigation brings this matter up to the sec, i would hope that they can leverage the sec into playing ball with us and help facilitate a naked short settlement, even though, to my understanding, research and interaction with securities commissions, the naked short must and should be attacked on a state by state basis. The states' laws are what is going to win the case for us. btw, Exhibit b, #3, was pretty much written by Mr. Frizzell as an edit to our negotiation, so this came from him, not me.. Please also refer to Exhibit b, #7-8.. same thing...Another thing, why wasn't this type of information used or mentioned in the Bivens.. Seems to me, presenting this evidence in court would have been a slam dunk, to show collusion on the part of the sec. We can only hope that these wasted years finally pay off for all of us with the upcoming naked short litigation by a competent law firm. That is our only hope here, in regards to this. As far as the statute of limitations that apply here, since the shareholders have not been made aware of the naked short evidence and have never been privy to it, a class action should be able to proceed, by the shareholders, not the company, since no timetable has begun relating to the shareholders as a class. As far as the former liability the former company officers may have for sitting on this evidence.....well.......I also believe there was a us Supreme Court ruling that addressed this situation, in our favor. That is for this expert legal firm to figure out. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=1089330Read more: cmkxhottub.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2658#ixzz1uxeQm0V1screw class action lawsuit brother. lawyers will screw us. If this case do not get resolve soon, I will teach everyone how to do a "Title 42" lawsuit the proper way to get our money and the money of all officials involved in screwing the shareholders. If the money is release, this information will not be dropped.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2012 8:59:53 GMT -5
It really is just time we established CMKX again as a company (it doesn't matter what kind of company) and go back to trading, now. We can then start the FTD's a rollin. This will light the fire any way you look at it.
Time to become a trading company NOW! No more girl thingy-footing around and get this done..and I think that SK is doing what he can to move in this direction.
Look at it this way, if we get FTD's started up in court, the brokers will, if they already have paid for the NSS's, force the proof of funds to be made public because they aint payin twice. If the trust is a sham then this is the correct course to get rico penalties paid to us.
Either way, going back to trading will solve our problem or at least FORCE transparency now!
IMO(really fact when you think about it)
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Post by coachphilm on May 16, 2012 9:52:08 GMT -5
Manny, Your still old, fat, ugly and flat footed. LOL
Coach
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Post by gabbyhayes2 on May 16, 2012 9:57:26 GMT -5
Yeah coach..and that's when he's having a good day... ;D
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Post by Ed Jagacki on May 16, 2012 10:55:10 GMT -5
Coach,
Flat feet don't bother him any more.
He's gellin'
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Post by MannyFin on May 16, 2012 11:42:06 GMT -5
All 3 of you can go, should I be nice---NAH F..k Yourself ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 8:17:50 GMT -5
O2bayankee Ok, let me throw a possibility out there. There have been no federal reserve notes($1-$100 dollar bills) printed since 2009. I thought that was crazy, but since that suggestion posted by someone on this board, I nor any of my friends have seen any bill in their wallet/purse printed past 2009. Couple that with the rumor of the Treasury note replacing the federal reserve note by as soon as July 1. Would/could this event in essence wipe out all debt due to the federal reserve and perhaps trigger a banking reset? Then you add the recent factual reports regarding JP Morgan's derivative trades/losses, the Overstock article with Goldman admitting to naked shorting, Greeks high probability of defaulting and the rest of the eurozone to follow, Iceland's 110% mortgage debt forgiveness, Ron Paul's meeting earlier this week about the role of the Federal reserve, banks from China to be allowed to do business in the US,etc.. One should deduce that some big event/change is on the near horizon imo. GLTA! o2b. O2bayankee Maybe they have been printed, but I have yet to see one in the past couple of weeks. Coincidence, perhaps. Maybe they have been printed as treasury notes(which would explain the ink usage) instead of federal reserve notes and the banks have been sitting on the new treasury notes until a specified distribution date. Just a thought. GLTA! o2b harvscorvette Your thought is correct. Harv Think not.. www.federalreserve.gov/foia/files/2012newcurrency.pdfD4E
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Post by ishmel on May 19, 2012 13:26:37 GMT -5
I was perplex to find out that portrush might be positioning him self to become one of the BOD as appointed by Kirkpatrick.
Portrush, have you have any communication with past or present CMKM management as to working for the company?
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