seeking1
Dr. Of Diamonds
As the Curtain Goes Down This is the End of the Show!!!
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Post by seeking1 on Apr 13, 2011 23:32:04 GMT -5
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Fellow Travelers,
As most of you probably know, Al and I were individual shareholders long before Hodges and Associates legally entered the fray. Accordingly, we are painfully aware that this continues to be an agonizing slog for all concerned. Please be aware that we want this totally resolved (now) as much as anyone and are unconditionally committed to effectuating total resolution.
Addressing the “We’ve won†post from Al, I think it reasonable, fair and safe to say we had significant input (and impact) in what turned out to be a giant “money war†that on one side included (but was not limited to) individuals and issues attendant to CMKM and on the other a macabre and malignant collection of powerful individuals and entities rotten to the core. Al, extremely well-positioned in all this, is firmly convinced that the large war is essentially “wonâ€Â, and that we’re now simply (or not so simply) waiting for the spoils of war to trickle down to the troops. If the trickle down process seems agonizingly slow it’s because it has proven to be exactly that, i.e., a much slower final process than we were led to anticipate.
It has fallen to me to field the plethora of daily calls and emails re CMKM directed at the office, subsequently playing 20 questions with shareholders (some desperately) seeking clarification, more information, reassurance, certainty on when and how much, comments on who said (or didn’t day) what when or why and all the rest of it. I understand the frustration because as a shareholder I’m frustrated too. Please understand however I don’t always have the time or inclination to get back to everyone (particularly repeat callers) promptly; it’s always my intention and I typically take calls and/or get back to most shareholders without ado but it doesn’t always happen and I know there are some who have made overtures to the office that I have let fall through the cracks altogether. To you I sincerely apologize. I do not however apologize to those who I deliberately ignore (or tell to stick it) who approach the office with entitlement “demands†and/or with an “attitudeâ€Â. Often I do not (and will not) respond to ingrates. Most callers, I hasten to add, are not “ingrates†with an “attitudeâ€Â, but are in fact just the opposite, i.e., really good people who share this dream. Unfortunately a disturbing number of those “really good people†have heart-wrenching stories and are in varying degrees of financial difficulty. While it breaks our heart that so many shareholders are on the financial (and emotional) edge, please know there is nothing either we or you can do to speed up the process. I wish we had a magic wand to wave but we don’t control the wind, all we can do is adjust our sails. We WILL persevere and we WILL prevail, however we just can’t say with absolute certitude (at least at this moment) exactly when money will hit everyone’s pockets. It could be "tomorrow", the next day, next week, next month or (the gods forbid) some longer time; Murphy’s Law and the Law of Unintended Consequence are unfortunate facts of life so we might adjust our immediate expectations accordingly.
Just for the record, and particularly to those who have lately (or not so lately) disparaged our efforts, you should know that Al Hodges has personally borne the lion’s share of the considerable expenditure(s) of time and money attendant to the litigation undertaken on behalf of all shareholders. Al is irrevocably committed to bringing this matter to a successful conclusion and continues to work tirelessly toward that end. Additionally, It might be instructive to know that he has not asked for nor has he taken one dime from shareholders, apart from an initial (and quite modest) retainer received from less than a handful of our lead plaintiffs.
All of which, you may ask, leaves us exactly where? Without going into specifics, here’s the take-away. In our considered opinion this saga will probably resolve with everyone “getting paid†erelong (how’s that for a word because it’s already past “soonâ€Â) but the operative words are “probably†and “erelongâ€Â. Expect and hope for the best but it’s prudent to remember that there are no absolute guarantees in this life, so while you are expecting and hoping for the best you might consider preparing for the worst on the off-chance that despite our “winning†the war the disparate “Big Boys†that remain standing could conceivably continue to drag out turning over the spoils.
Hope all this helps clear the general air, even a little. Keep the faith and good luck to all of us. I reiterate, we WILL persevere and we WILL prevail.
Regards,
particleswaves
Dennis Smith
Hodges and Associates
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Post by cheechman on Apr 13, 2011 23:35:16 GMT -5
particleswaves
Let's clear some air
« Thread Started Today at 8:55pm »
Fellow Travelers,
As most of you probably know, Al and I were individual shareholders long before Hodges and Associates legally entered the fray. Accordingly, we are painfully aware that this continues to be an agonizing slog for all concerned. Please be aware that we want this totally resolved (now) as much as anyone and are unconditionally committed to effectuating total resolution.
Addressing the “We’ve won” post from Al, I think it reasonable, fair and safe to say we had significant input (and impact) in what turned out to be a giant “money war” that on one side included (but was not limited to) individuals and issues attendant to CMKM and on the other a macabre and malignant collection of powerful individuals and entities rotten to the core. Al, extremely well-positioned in all this, is firmly convinced that the large war is essentially “won”, and that we’re now simply (or not so simply) waiting for the spoils of war to trickle down to the troops. If the trickle down process seems agonizingly slow it’s because it has proven to be exactly that, i.e., a much slower final process than we were led to anticipate.
It has fallen to me to field the plethora of daily calls and emails re CMKM directed at the office, subsequently playing 20 questions with shareholders (some desperately) seeking clarification, more information, reassurance, certainty on when and how much, comments on who said (or didn’t day) what when or why and all the rest of it. I understand the frustration because as a shareholder I’m frustrated too. Please understand however I don’t always have the time or inclination to get back to everyone (particularly repeat callers) promptly; it’s always my intention and I typically take calls and/or get back to most shareholders without ado but it doesn’t always happen and I know there are some who have made overtures to the office that I have let fall through the cracks altogether. To you I sincerely apologize. I do not however apologize to those who I deliberately ignore (or tell to stick it) who approach the office with entitlement “demands” and/or with an “attitude”. Often I do not (and will not) respond to ingrates. Most callers, I hasten to add, are not “ingrates” with an “attitude”, but are in fact just the opposite, i.e., really good people who share this dream. Unfortunately a disturbing number of those “really good people” have heart-wrenching stories and are in varying degrees of financial difficulty. While it breaks our heart that so many shareholders are on the financial (and emotional) edge, please know there is nothing either we or you can do to speed up the process. I wish we had a magic wand to wave but we don’t control the wind, all we can do is adjust our sails. We WILL persevere and we WILL prevail, however we just can’t say with absolute certitude (at least at this moment) exactly when money will hit everyone’s pockets. It could be tomorrow, the next day, next week, next month or (the gods forbid) some longer time; Murphy’s Law and the Law of Unintended Consequence are unfortunate facts of life so we might adjust our immediate expectations accordingly.
Just for the record, and particularly to those who have lately (or not so lately) disparaged our efforts, you should know that Al Hodges has personally borne the lion’s share of the considerable expenditure(s) of time and money attendant to the litigation undertaken on behalf of all shareholders. Al is irrevocably committed to bringing this matter to a successful conclusion and continues to work tirelessly toward that end. Additionally, It might be instructive to know that he has not asked for nor has he taken one dime from shareholders, apart from an initial (and quite modest) retainer received from less than a handful of our lead plaintiffs.
All of which, you may ask, leaves us exactly where? Without going into specifics, here’s the take-away. In our considered opinion this saga will probably resolve with everyone “getting paid” erelong (how’s that for a word because it’s already past “soon”) but the operative words are “probably” and “erelong”. Expect and hope for the best but it’s prudent to remember that there are no absolute guarantees in this life, so while you are expecting and hoping for the best you might consider preparing for the worst on the off-chance that despite our “winning” the war the disparate “Big Boys” that remain standing could conceivably continue to drag out turning over the spoils.
Hope all this helps clear the general air, even a little. Keep the faith and good luck to all of us. I reiterate, we WILL persevere and we WILL prevail.
Regards,
particleswaves
Dennis Smith
Hodges and Associates
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NICE TO SEE UPDATE BUT HATE THIS WORD “probably”
CHEECHMAN
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Post by marbearcat on Apr 13, 2011 23:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by cheechman on Apr 13, 2011 23:43:04 GMT -5
Ya beat me to it seeking! Thanks for posting!!! Hey mr. Hodges, very nice but..................... WE'RE GETTING THE ATTORNEY!!!!!!!  =^ .". ^= My Thoughts Exactly,when ever there has been shareholder PRESSURE/UPRISING we get an UPDATE. CHEECHMAN |
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Post by marbearcat on Apr 14, 2011 5:35:51 GMT -5
And check out the last, loooong sentence of paragraph five. HOW DID WE EVER GO FROM "IMMINENT" "IF I'M A BETTING MAN" "WE WON" ETC, TO THAT! READ IT! THEN READ IT AGAIN! Last sentence of paragraph five. To me it's a kick in the nads.
Grrrrrrrrrr!
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Post by z06mike on Apr 14, 2011 6:38:58 GMT -5
While this is not an update, I'm with the rest; interestingly timed display of vicarious bravado. And, yes, we're still getting the lawyer...  Mike |
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Post by e362 on Apr 14, 2011 6:45:40 GMT -5
And check out the last, loooong sentence of paragraph five. HOW DID WE EVER GO FROM "IMMINENT" "IF I'M A BETTING MAN" "WE WON" ETC, TO THAT! READ IT! THEN READ IT AGAIN! Last sentence of paragraph five. To me it's a kick in the nads. Grrrrrrrrrr! Got the feeling we are being "conditioned" with that update. Not quite an update, it was more of a rehash of all other correspondences put out as an update to mask the fact that we really haven't had an update. Lets see, AH is positive and working hard, check, AH is doing all this on his own dime, check, AH believes the war is won ( now essentially won),check, and Dennis is tired of taking calls from less than polite shareholders. (we have heard this message before). check. Don't get me wrong, I fully respect what AH is taking on, but that "update" was useless and almost took a demeaning tone. AH could put everyones mind at ease by actually stating he has in his discovery paperwork the actual trust ( or has read the actual trust) and not taken someones word for it. What would that jeopardize? Absolutely nothing. The new atty action could prove to be very enlightening. |
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Post by z06mike on Apr 14, 2011 6:54:14 GMT -5
And check out the last, loooong sentence of paragraph five. HOW DID WE EVER GO FROM "IMMINENT" "IF I'M A BETTING MAN" "WE WON" ETC, TO THAT! READ IT! THEN READ IT AGAIN! Last sentence of paragraph five. To me it's a kick in the nads. Grrrrrrrrrr! Got the feeling we are being "conditioned" with that update. Not quite an update, it was more of a rehash of all other correspondences put out as an update to mask the fact that we really haven't had an update. Lets see, AH is positive and working hard, check, AH is doing all this on his own dime, check, AH believes the war is won ( now essentially won),check, and Dennis is tired of taking calls from less than polite shareholders. (we have heard this message before). check. Don't get me wrong, I fully respect what AH is taking on, but that "update" was useless and almost took a demeaning tone. AH could put everyones mind at ease by actually stating he has in his discovery paperwork the actual trust ( or has read the actual trust) and not taken someones word for it. What would that jeopardize? Absolutely nothing. The new atty action could prove to be very enlightening. e362, You're being kind. It was demeaning. Essentially, "call me if you want to pat me on the back and BS. Otherwise, you're an ingrate." Mike |
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Post by zibel on Apr 14, 2011 7:22:12 GMT -5
Evidently, being shareholders themselves is perhaps not really an advantage as it might be so that they are just a little bit biased toward dreams and hope rather than to the sober reality. IMHO
So I appreciate what they have done and do, but I do look forward to hear from Att Fryar, as I can't wait to have an unbiased, independent opinion on this case.
Thanks and regards, z.
I also would like to know based on what concrete elements it has been said that we were ready, I really would appreciate that! It was december 2010, I think.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Apr 14, 2011 7:25:23 GMT -5
I guess, now they will stop playing with our emotions and start to treat us like humans.. No more sarcastic up-dates.. I guess we really had to show them how strong 40000 + shareholders can be... No more games... Show us your hand.. Or show your hand to the shareholders Lawyer..
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Post by e362 on Apr 14, 2011 7:39:31 GMT -5
Got the feeling we are being "conditioned" with that update. Not quite an update, it was more of a rehash of all other correspondences put out as an update to mask the fact that we really haven't had an update. Lets see, AH is positive and working hard, check, AH is doing all this on his own dime, check, AH believes the war is won ( now essentially won),check, and Dennis is tired of taking calls from less than polite shareholders. (we have heard this message before). check. Don't get me wrong, I fully respect what AH is taking on, but that "update" was useless and almost took a demeaning tone. AH could put everyones mind at ease by actually stating he has in his discovery paperwork the actual trust ( or has read the actual trust) and not taken someones word for it. What would that jeopardize? Absolutely nothing. The new atty action could prove to be very enlightening. e362, You're being kind. It was demeaning. Essentially, "call me if you want to pat me on the back and BS. Otherwise, you're an ingrate." Mike Mike, That me to a T.....kind!  ;D |
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Post by wolfbela on Apr 14, 2011 7:45:38 GMT -5
Michael, You are right. It is beyond demeaning and insulting. How this office can come out and make any statement about understanding.. ya da, ya da.. When they have been on their high and mighty deceptive horse stoking us all along. It just shows they know no shame and feel they are above it all and should be honored that they are all involved. Hodges has borrowed money from people, he has promised big loans to people when he is paid by Cottrell, he has sold shares at an obscene amount of money, and the list goes on and on...yet they are going to tell us what to do .. no way.. Grateful for what.. being jerked around.. Folks, I predicted these letters and attacks about anyone getting involved, such as losing payment, etc.. would be coming.. They are BS.. We have a right to take action just as much as anyone.. and we are going to..Why would any other shareholder say that to you.. ask yourself that.. to protect their greedy dishonest interest in this.. I would question the motives of your fellow shareholders that want to attack you constantly for digging into your own pockets to try and find out the truth about your investment. It is OK for them to defend their interest in Hodges, but you are out of your mind for wanting to hire a competent lawyer specializing in this to defend YOUR interests. Plus, they haven't spent a dime on their own, but always have the answers..What is wrong with that picture.. Make note of these people, be they board administrators or posters.. because I have. What are these OTHER shareholders' interests in this.. Perhaps they are not to get to the truth. Perhaps to hide it.. If you have any doubt, any doubt, I know we are doing the right thing.. I ask you to look at these two web pages, read them carefully and watch the video.. then look at Hodges and see who is better suited to defend OUR interests..There is no question in my mind. Watch that video.. that is you.. mom and pop CMKX shareholder with no one looking out for you. It is obvious Mr. Fryar is a religious and ethical man, and from our brief conversations, has concerns about what is going on here and who it is profiting. fryarlawfirm.com/Biography.htmlfryarlawfirm.com/Others.htmlStop listening to all of these people, including Hodges and Associates. Go back and read the Hodges letters, updates, emails. If you want to put the outcome of this in only his hands, and get frightened and fearful, then listen to these same people you have listened to for years.. and get nowhere and possibly lose any chance to recover any assets that may be there for us.. Or, join the people that have said.. NO MORE.. do not be frightened by these updates and posts. I predicted they would come and there will be more. Just hang in till we engage Mr. Fryar and then these idiots can write whatever they want. I would just warn then to be careful if they don't want to be held accountable for any more deceptive acts on their parts. The light is finally shining on the CMKX Shareholders.. all of us.. even the ones taken in by this whole propoganda machine that has been spinning for years. When someone is deceptive time after time, lies time after time. make predictions time after time and is wrong or deceitful.. something is wrong.. We are being had..pure and simple.. the times they are a changin'.. Keep your focus and don't believe a word of this crap.. cause there will be more.. Please spread this post to the other boards and posters that think we have been scared off.. not true.. ain't happenin... Jerry WB |
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Post by 2018 on Apr 14, 2011 8:09:46 GMT -5
I apreciate the response from Dennis to general shareholders.
I have few questions.
In spite the fact, that we all know that Hodges has done much during this process, and its probably fluid.. so it must be hard to give updates, my mind goes back to the "updates" and "information" that we were actualy offered previously:
**We were told that maheu is in charge of our moneys and their release
** We were told that there was federal judge decision in "camera" meaning in secret in his office, that moneys were to be released by end of 2010.
** We were told that maheu was the one that violated that decision, and that they were paying millions a week in fines because they did not follow that judges decision.
@@@ now for starters, why are we beeing told completely ridiculous stuff like that/ missinformation? And that is what we have been left with since end of 2010.
We were also told that we are separated from any world global funds.. and recently again, HOdges responded to a shareholder that Dinar revaluation is waiting for us.. or that we are ahead.
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I quite have a feeling that it must be hard to give updates in fluid situation, but its the stuff like the above.. and the sense that shareholders are told all kinds of stuff just to be stonewalled for a while.. and pushed away.. and then later on things get reverted or ignored like it was never said.
I like dennis, i spoke with dennis and i liked him.
But that is besides the point when one reflects with information we have been getting.. like:
Maheu is in charge of our moneys and its release,
we are separate from everybody else or their funds,
there was secret judges in camera order to release funds by end of 2010, of which, obviously Maheu is 100% in charge, because he violated it, and was then suposedly finned millions a week, for violating it.
In the same time, off course Maheu team negates everything.. and its commedy channel with .. "you are crazy shareholder" responses.
Then now again we revert to ... that the other side is in charge.. and they are delaying it.. and who knows how long they will delay it..
@@@ so question: why the heck are we being played with complete conflicting information previously and left with it for 3-4 months? ( made up stuff)
And another one.. how "hodges cant get in touch with Maheu team." " Hodges cant get Maheu team on the phone".
This is what is put out, and that is what we have been left with .. for months now. From new years to ok today april 14th.
Yea it is stuff like this.. and probably bunch of other stuff..
brings a shareholder to a conclusion that we are simply played with, or played stupid.. and that you really cant trust much at all, because you are told these elaborate stories.. that never get continued response.. but even worse with any kind of additional update.. previous info is totaly ignored and debunked.
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Apr 14, 2011 8:17:06 GMT -5
Got the feeling we are being "conditioned" with that update. Not quite an update, it was more of a rehash of all other correspondences put out as an update to mask the fact that we really haven't had an update. Lets see, AH is positive and working hard, check, AH is doing all this on his own dime, check, AH believes the war is won ( now essentially won),check, and Dennis is tired of taking calls from less than polite shareholders. (we have heard this message before). check. Don't get me wrong, I fully respect what AH is taking on, but that "update" was useless and almost took a demeaning tone. AH could put everyones mind at ease by actually stating he has in his discovery paperwork the actual trust ( or has read the actual trust) and not taken someones word for it. What would that jeopardize? Absolutely nothing. The new atty action could prove to be very enlightening. e362, You're being kind. It was demeaning. Essentially, "call me if you want to pat me on the back and BS. Otherwise, you're an ingrate." Mike So, what you're saying is that Dennis should welcome abusive ones to direct their abuse at him and Al?!? Ed |
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Post by 2018 on Apr 14, 2011 8:38:46 GMT -5
I know my responses end up being long.. maybe hard to follow,
I actualy logged in today with full intention to actually write something directly to Hodges and Dennis.
Then first thing I noticed Dennis address to shareholders, which i read.
Obviously, team hodges has recognized what in the least the Action on the board to hire another lawyer by shareholders themselves reflects on and indicates.
And it indicates and reflects on:
#1 no finnal results in getting our funds
But even more reflective is it of shareholders disatisfaction and frustration in getting real information.
And that "real information" includes from having any proof that our funds or funds for shareholders actualy exist, where are they?, who is actualy having control over them, to ..
the way we have been treated in regards information/missinfromation offered to us during the process of Hodges lawsuit.
Its seems like its has been long established and accepted practice to just play with shareholders, and make up any kind of story line, missinformation, with no regards to actualy come back and treat shareholders with some respect in regards information/missinfromation given previously.. and as long shareholders will take it , it continues..
We followed world global settlements, and dinar revaluation.. then we cut off from that suposedly, then we had maheu in charge, and judges decision and million dollars fines to maheu for not following judges decision,
and we had hodges that cant get in touch with maheu since end of 2010...
and in all that.. shareholders would eat it up.. if there were some results in getting our funds released..
but that does not happen, so we are left with no results and really bunch of stories that really brings one a shareholder to conclusion.. and a feeling that you are just bamboozled and disrespected.. with bunch of these round a round story lines..
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