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Post by skoondog on Sept 11, 2015 8:10:24 GMT -5
The question is why when BF said we could get 60million from the WF case then we get a settlement and SK is asking shareholders for money! He should have enough money to seat a BOD, return the company to trading and explore the Koch claims. It was my understanding that SK stated that the reason he offered the existing NHHI shareholders a chance to put more money in was because he was getting additional investors to help go into oil. The offer was made in the interest of fairness to people who wanted to increase their share of whatever rewards accrue from going forward. Sorry if I speculate a bit here , having very little knowledge of how these things work. SK said that NHHI would be an attractive tax shelter for outside investors because NHHI would pay comparatively little in taxes due to NHHI being owed large civil judgements which were never paid to NHHI. (NHHI being the harmed party in many of their successful litigations and damaged by failure of debtors to pay). My guess is that SK may be trying to dip into the WF settlement money as little as possible and may be first pursuing profitable partnerships with the outside investors attracted to NHHI's favorable tax situation. Another uneducated guess here if you will pardon me... returning to trading on a better exchange seems preferable, and I am no expert, but maybe building NHHI stronger will enable NHHI to bypass the pinks and OTC and get on a larger, more stable exchange or even trade on a foreign exchange, depending on who NHHI new partners with. I am flying blind here , obviously, just some ideas I threw in. All That I care about, will CMKX shares be a part of the plan and will we be able to trade our cmkx shares or maybe trade them in for NHHI shares? Who Knows??? Skoondog
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 11, 2015 8:14:14 GMT -5
I have a felling our CMKX shares have been taken care of already and waiting on a day.. I could be wrong.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 14, 2015 16:01:38 GMT -5
#2183184 ezal13 7 hours ago For those that call this a SCAM You can call what happened to both CMKX and SRCI both scams, you can call leaders of both companies thieves...... BUT You can also say that what happened...happened to both companies.... You can say the SEC AND OUR LEADERS watched and allowed it all to happen. They halted both companies...both companies were under an SEC investigation...both companies were allowed to resume trading...both companies traded in numbers at the time never been seen before.....THE SEC, CONGRESSMEN, SENATORS, THE DOJ AND FBI WERE CONTACTED EVERY SINGLE DAY....WE HAVE NOTES, WE HAVE RECORDS.....WE SCREAMED WE SHOWCASED THE ATROCITY THAT WAS HAPPENING DAILY....THEY RESPONDED....WE ARE AWARE, WE ARE MONITORING THE SITUATION AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. WHEN SHAREHOLDERS SHOWCASE HISTORIC NUMBERS...WHEN WE SHOWCASE MORE SHARES ARE TRADING IN ONE COMPANY THAT EQUATES TO MORE SHARES THAN THE ENTIRE STOCKMARKET COMBINED.....I'M SURE IT MADE QUITE AN IMPRESSION... SO OUR LEADERS, WATCHED AND WATCHED AND WATCHED......DID THE SEC AND OUR GOVERNMENT PROTECT SHAREHOLDERS AND NEW SHAREHOLDERS LIKE THEY'VE SWARN TO DO? NO....AS FAR AS MANY OF US BELEIVE....THEY WERE PART OF IT...THEY ALLOWED THOUSANDS OF INVESTORS TO GET HURT....THEY DID NOT DO THEIR JOB...PERIOD.... HISTORIC NUMBERS...NUMBERS THAT WILL NEVER BE SEEN AGAIN IN THE HISTORY OF THE STOCK MARKET. THEY SHOULD HAVE LISTENED....
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Post by jimirockzzz on Sept 15, 2015 0:38:15 GMT -5
technology will catch them !!! even if you own it, it's kind of hard to erase it .
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Post by jimirockzzz on Sept 15, 2015 0:40:02 GMT -5
technology will catch them !!! even if you own it, it's kind of hard to erase it . Even the forplay that goes on on these boards. ;-)
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 15, 2015 17:08:06 GMT -5
#2183746 tuscan2012 13 minutes ago
Last night, after mulling many thoughts/logical questions..
I am sure I am not the only one who hit the calculator....
First off...the infamous 'Fifty four cents'...(54) After coming out of some fog from the nights event... the thinking process set in... why the infamous .54... what?...no interest growth on the number after all these years... then, my mind snapped back with .'wait, the .14 cents is MASSIVE $140,000 on EVERY million shares in this stock mess..we ALL know how many gazillion 'MILLIONS' there are in this stock...
so, the so-called Payout, at this number to some klownZ or EntityZ Is enormous....
back to the .54....why that number and not a number that had a Decade of interest???....did the storyline writers think we are stuck on a familiar' numbers We heard years ago and haven't grown with the TIMES?.... ..did the story writer think we were stuck on familiarity , hence picked .54?
I have a thought on the TIMING on this whiplash we received last night... The other clan was thrashing the boards with investment pushes ...with a obvious Thought they too heard payout was closing in...thus, TIMING of money flow in shareholders pockets Might have instigated the chatter of a grand investment ...TIMING us everything, so they say..lol
there's much more that stood out in that message...some contrare.. you all remember That game ..so, is this the real way to take it or do we flip it to contrare??lol..(poor shareholders minds...) some expose and finger pointing..which is and has been obvious to me all along, so on the rogue characters expose... and the investing pity party ..was this all TIMING...?? it's evident something is 'going down' soon,....imo.. we are watching inside action.
The 'baseball' insert ....and comment in scroll by acca when it was being stated On the mic was awesome and telling...
in cmkm, TIMING of all ''sides of the coin' of cmkmland....making comments or showing up makes This very interesting...but, not six months if it...just a day or two..so, don't figure today's chatter Will entertain the masses for long..
We hold something that can go UP.. and Go Sideways...but not crash....lol. (get it?..I do) Know What You Hold..someoneS certainly DO.
Who's next in the pilot seat?..
BoyZ...Keep tawkin'...All of you...we hold...you covet.. and one thing you now understand... those thst are still here are tougher than you hoped..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 16, 2015 16:39:39 GMT -5
Ha.... Wouldn't be surprised if even Mr. Bill Frizzell had his calculator out.. !! Let's see... 6 Billion shares X .40 a share = A whole lot of xtra pockets needed , in addition to the ones that are already full !!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 17, 2015 9:38:37 GMT -5
IceCrush Mod Squad ***** 12 minutes ago There is a specific group of shareholders that support SK. They've got his back and will do what they believe to support SK in all area's. They communicate with him on a regular basis so they have his ear.....and it appears SK trusts them. The latest update from SK is a very good example of how he shouldn't have because they made SK look stupid. These shareholders information is very bias and closed against others who like to discuss all differing kinds of opinions. They're a very arrogant, a know it all group, very critical and use the word respect while they verbally attack or put a person down. I don't bother with them but see their comments smattered across the web. I often laugh when they make a comment based as 'fact' and I know that they're wrong. It's not worth the time to try to reason with the unreasonable or correct them. It's also not worth creating wars on the web because crap can get thrown out that is not retrievable, so trying to correct a situation will just escalate it. Not worth it. What SK put out to the shareholders is a good example of SK listening to a jaded bias person who didn't have the whole truth or even bothered to check it out. SK shouldn't bother with rumours but just handle our company and move it forward, communicate with shareholders in a respectful manner, a good business manner and if he wants to make a statement he should DD the info before putting it out. That's a good business practice and one we see with Al Hodges. The group SK is listening too is toying with him, manipulating him, power pushing him and making SK look unprofessional. jmho
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Post by 2018 on Sept 17, 2015 10:02:28 GMT -5
Ha.... Wouldn't be surprised if even Mr. Bill Frizzell had his calculator out.. !! Let's see... 6 Billion shares X .40 a share = A whole lot of xtra pockets needed , in addition to the ones that are already full !! ha... 6 billion shares.. was not for nothing.. although it cost nothing. Still not sure ..that would qualify for the distribution.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 17, 2015 10:23:54 GMT -5
Ha.... Wouldn't be surprised if even Mr. Bill Frizzell had his calculator out.. !! Let's see... 6 Billion shares X .40 a share = A whole lot of xtra pockets needed , in addition to the ones that are already full !! ha... 6 billion shares.. was not for nothing.. although it cost nothing. Still not sure ..that would qualify for the distribution. My say is that the 0.14 was put a side for just this.. JMHO
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Post by 2018 on Sept 17, 2015 10:49:05 GMT -5
ha... 6 billion shares.. was not for nothing.. although it cost nothing. Still not sure ..that would qualify for the distribution. My say is that the 0.14 was put a side for just this.. JMHO And it might be exactly that..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 18, 2015 7:21:52 GMT -5
roberto DIAMOND JEDI about an hour ago dfresh, sogwap and 1 more like this. Post by roberto on about an hour ago
Tonycmkx, the following is IMHO!
Searching for paper proof of frozen and other trusts established for CMKM bonafide shareholders is similar in nature to the search for the Holy Grail.
It is my belief and understanding that there has been some sort of agreement to hide the fact that the “entire” financial community was (and IMO still is to a certain extent) running amuck when they, for several years, openly and knowingly naked shorted/counterfeited trillions of CMKX and other companies’ shares without fear of consequences, criminal or civil. What the culprits didn’t plan on was a sting that had been intricately planned and carried out using CMKX as the bait to catch them. This is all spelled out in the court documents filed by Mr. Hodges on behalf of the plaintiffs and other similar situated shareholders...about 40-50 thousand of us in total.
Now, not only did the sting identify and catch these financial thieves, but apparently also caught some in the SEC, and DOJ (and especially the Federal Reserve) complicitly aiding and abetting these financial thieves, as well as some organizations overseas using illicit financial gains to aid terrorists organizations.
So what do we do? Expose the whole thing and essentially bring our government down? My first inclination would be a resounding YES! Or do we use this knowledge and documentation to discreetly bring about massive and needed change with minimal disruption to the economic well being of our citizens. Evidently, we chose the latter.
We now know that the cabal operations had infiltrated and were much more entrenched at all levels within our financial system than initially thought...and the battle to get them removed has been long and arduous. To assist in this endeavor, Mr. Hodges filed a Bivens lawsuit and on paper identified the problem and sting process. IMO, this was never intended to go to discovery (both sides obtaining supporting documentation from the other), but was to be used as a leverage (threat of discovery) to get the bad people off their duff and implement needed governmental and financial changes so that our trust monies could be released. Because once discovery occurred, the proverbial cat would be out of the bag showing how corrupt our government and financial system had become. And once discovery occurred, documentation, such as our trusts information would become public knowledge.
To avoid this most embarrassing governmental situation, a plan was devised (IMO prior to Mr. Cassavant leaving CMKM and instantly being accused of operating a pump and dump operation) to have a cover story to allow the giant (USA) to be discreetly brought to its’ knees, but not killed.
The story is to show that CMKM was a pump and dump operation corrupted by the insiders of the company...which is what we see in the DOJ court documents. Now the question that I and many others have is were there really some bad people operating CMKM during the 2003-2007 period, or were some of them government plants? I state this because in the Bivens filings, it was stated that the SEC officials had very effective oversight and substantial control of the sting operation, including funding the CMKX Funny Car as well as bringing in Attorney Roger Glenn and allowing the increase in authorized shares to 800 billion. To do this, the top people in CMKX (ie. Mr. Cassavant) had to be aware of the their involvement. But alas, I have now digressed to far!
Anyhow, any publicly available documentation regarding the sting and monetary collections (ie., trusts information) will never see the light of day because it would “blow” the agreed upon cover story and expose the massive corruption within our Government and financial system. And existing documentation supporting the sting (ie., Biven’s filings) will be denounced as totally unsupported and inaccurate.
But hopefully in the very near future, we will receive proof of the trusts in a packet that will most likely also include a Non-Disclosure Agreement. And I think this packet will be more than sufficient to satisfy all of our outstanding questions about proof and documentation.
Please forgive me when and where I rambled and grammatically erred ...and all of the above is IMO, with strong support from the Biven’s filings.
Respectfully
roberto
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 18, 2015 15:29:40 GMT -5
#2184504 tuscan2012 55 minutes ago
Yes, a mix of ex gov Boyz and the likes of guys one could believe were as savvy as a GI Intel guy,...plus gov guys all filtered together..compartmentalized on a Need to know basis, and possibly, as they wander the halls of cmmkand, they may be Personally wondering who is who and who sounds like one of them operating from one of the 'other' MANY sides.
It's a given, there were TIMES the side of the shareholder, was adamantly assured They were about to see this bust loose only to find the whole obvious agreed upon Timing went south...and a whole new set of TIME began. All of the Six Sports, at some given TIME would have been applicable..with the last two being played, wayyy overtime.
The 'he, .had a job to do' guy, imo, is out of the picture now...but..lol...moneybelt, My picture window did just get a solidified 'ah ha' moment...and a chuckle, to boot!
Roberto, your part where you are wondering about the 'when it started per insiders'..(not that, Mr Roberto, in any way I figure you don't have a good handle on your figurin' s About it,)...anyway, to catch a thief, many good Intel guys must be infiltrated into the throngs of the shareholder base that was massive...to identify the broker/hedgefund/candlestick maker and crooked mofia clans...that obviously paid in and figured to Get Back money at End Game... Obviously, Mr Maheu knew the Intel world and how GREED works...and is good at scripts, to my way of thinking, made sure the shareholders had plenty of stories About Urban,...along with smidgens of truth sprinkled like salt. There are way too Many clues for Urban to be a crook....the clues could take up a mile of write.
Roberto, nice write...I concur...
PS...and yes, always figured with all the work some hired hands had to go through... if one payment arrives...the Waterfall of monies would be A GIVEN, no matter what we have to 'hear' as part of a public after the fact storyline for a gov coverup.
PPS..my android spells or makes up words on its own..so speed read over the mistakes..
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Post by vulcanized crawler on Sept 18, 2015 17:16:04 GMT -5
yea roberto, im waiting for my packet....it's friday night. i want one
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Post by gabbyhayes on Sept 18, 2015 19:01:00 GMT -5
Al……make a statement please !!!!
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