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Post by thunkerdrone on Jul 29, 2014 18:48:12 GMT -5
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Post by thunkerdrone on Sept 15, 2014 12:31:46 GMT -5
Here is why they were desperate enough to fake the murder of Sharon Tate etc. (it should give one an idea of how close they came to completely losing control and to utter anarchy at The Presidio base) People had been burning their Vietnam war draft cards in public protests as early as 1964 , and in 1968 (months before the fake Tate murders) it came to this:
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Post by thunkerdrone on Sept 15, 2014 13:10:25 GMT -5
it was not even a murder, let alone a 'vicious murder' look at the amount of evidence that it was faked. Sharon Tate's father was Colonel Paul Tate Colonel Paul Tate was stationed at the Presidio army base In the following interview , the mother of Sharon Tate, Doris Tate, discloses that she and her husband Colonel Paul Tate were living in San Francisco and that her husband was working out of the Sixth United States Army Training Base at Presidio (Fort Baker) (had been stationed there for three years) in the first video scroll to the 7 minute mark where the interview begins Sharon Tate had her first modeling job as a young model starting as a model posing atop a missle for U.S. army newspaper Stars n' Stripes: see the image here: Sharon Tate's friend Abigail Folger's father was Major Peter Folger (note that he was rich society lad who went to Yale and then became a marines major/army intelligence officer ACIO (Associate Chief Information Officer) after Yale. (is there any doubt that he was Skull n' Bones?) Note that Peter Folger spent a large amount of money suppressing any information which might emerge on who he and his daughter really were. Peter Folger was a marines major/army intelligence officer (Associate Chief Information Officer) ACIO with the famous Black Sheep marine fighting squadron VMF-214 stationed out of Hawaii in WW2: goo.gl/aM8GakIt starts to get interesting when you take into account that the fathers of both Abigail Folger and Sharon Tate were U.S. Army Intelligence officers during WW2. Colonel Paul James Tate was assistant chief of staff for intelligence at the Sixth Region Army Air Defense Command at The Presidio/Fort Baker base when Sharon Tate purportedly died. Consider also that Jay Sebring was in the navy during the Korean War and a personal friend of Peter Folger's (and no doubt either U.S Army Intelligence during Korea or went on to a career with the CIA afterward as apparently Peter Folger and Colonel Paul James Tate did after WW2). Peter Folger's father was massively wealthy coffee magnate J.A. Folger II. (consider how much money these upper echelon war commanders and majors and colonels probably secretly earn for their 'service'. They are probably the ultimate mercenary soldiers. No one ever discusses the money involved to get a billion-heir out there organizing things during war time) So the fathers of the two purportedly murdered women were high level intelligence agents during war time (Vietnam). It's a good bet that their daughters were 'IN' the same circles as their fathers (aka intelligence assets themselves. These people do not f*ck around, they are going to keep a tight leash on their kids) Manson was surrounded by intelligence agents himself (Ken Kesey, Hank Harrison, the whole Spahn Ranch/Hells Angels/Pranksters/Laurel Canyon milieu etc. which Manson was immersed in) Throw into the mix of the Tate murders an actress (Sharon Tate)and a couple of film makers versed in special effects/horror makeup etc. (polish film makers Roman Polanski and Voytek Frykowski) and you've got all the makings for a staged hoax. The fact that all of this information has been suppressed is a red flag in itself. Vincent Bugliosi wrote a whole book on the subject and never bothered to mention that both Tate and Folger had fathers working together in military intelligence in San Francisco at the time of their purported murders? QUOTE
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Post by thunkerdrone on Sept 15, 2014 14:02:11 GMT -5
I read Bugliosi's Helter Skelter (his bogus story of the fake Manson psy-op 'murders;) when I was 20 years old and believed every word of it. That doesn't mean it wasn't one big lie, which it was. Bugliosi was in on it. He was both the prosecuting District Attorney and headed up the entire investigation, which is very unusual: Quote re: "Bugliosi became very involved in the investigation" what a ridiculous understatement. Bugliosi in his role as Los Angeles District Attorney seized dictatorial control of the investigation from the very beginning, and locked it down under his own command. He even hid the Tate residence housekeeper Winnifred Chapman (who purportedly found the bodies) away in Denver to keep the media away from her. pretty obvious that the whole Manson thing was 'special', and for the whole psy-op thing to be concealed, they had to have ONE guy in charge of the whole thing, from investigation to prosecution to even writing the fake story (Helter Skelter) afterward.
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Post by thunkerdrone on Sept 16, 2014 11:27:18 GMT -5
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Post by thunkerdrone on Nov 6, 2014 8:20:19 GMT -5
the similarities of the two following photos say so much about the similarities of the two people , Sharon Tate and Susan Atkins, both of them little more than trained actresses in the fake Manson drama, the spy-op/psy-op which came to be known as Helter Skelter (and the faked murders of Sharon Tate and Abigail Folger etc.): Sharon Tate in a wig on the set of 'The Fearless Vampire Killers'Susan Atkins in wig emerges from a coffin as part of an early Church Of Satan 'Witches Review'show conceived by Anton LaVey
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Post by thunkerdrone on Nov 7, 2014 7:40:42 GMT -5
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Post by thunkerdrone on Nov 12, 2014 8:27:38 GMT -5
Here's why the San Francisco-based Folger family were so interested in Vietnam back in the 1960's : _______________________________________ QUOTE www.coffeehabitat.com/2006/09/heres_what_ends/September 13, 2006 A short article entitled “Quality of Vietnamese coffee poor” (pdf) appeared recently on a Vietnam news site. It notes that Vietnam is the world’s second largest producer of coffee, but that 89% of its crop is low-quality robusta. And it adds, “The reason is the massive use of inorganic fertilizer, water, insecticide and poor processing technology At the Folgers web site, Proctor & Gamble admitted to buying Vietnamese coffee: “We purchase our coffee beans from all over the world, including Vietnam. The percentage of beans from any one country varies all the time, depending on availability.” (Note that Folgers is now owned by Smuckers, but probably uses P&G’s sourcing avenues). ____________________________________ Note, above, how Folgers dodges the question of what % of their coffee beans are grown in Vietnam. Proctor & Gamble acquired Folgers in 1963 Vietnam is the second largest producer of coffee in the world (after Brazil) In the 1960's, Proctor and Gamble-owned Folgers is one of the largest coffee brands in the world. Do the math. Nestle company (Switzerland) have huge cocoa bean and coffee bean interests in Vietnam, and are the largest purchaser of coffee beans in the world. Did they also have an interest in expansion of coffee production into Vietnam, and want control of Vietnam in the 1960s? (gotta keep those meddling human rights activists out of their lucrative slave-op plantations in 'Nam!) And at the same time, you had a large number of people in America quite aware of all of this and quite opposed to supporting the war for control of Vietnam ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So back in sixties the Rothschilds and the rest were fleeing the socialist unions of America, and were hurriedly transferring their manufacturing operations for everything from fabric to clothing to electronics to motorcycles to automobiles to Japan, then South Korea, then Malaysia...and the Folger family had extensive coffee interests in Vietnam and extensive interests in the cheap labor available there, apparently enough interest in it to become involved in the 'war effort' and to fake the murder of their daughter Abigail Folger in the Manson hoax. So in the 1960's you had a whole bunch of people wanting a piece of the action in Vietnam, be it the opium/cocaine/hashish barons or the coffee/cocoa magnates or the weapons manufacturers or the merc outfits like Blackwater.... so you can see how they all worked together to craft the fake Manson cult and fake Sharon Tate/Abigail Folger murders.
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Post by thunkerdrone on Nov 14, 2014 9:22:46 GMT -5
So back in sixties the Rothschilds and the rest were fleeing the socialist unions of America, and were hurriedly transferring their manufacturing operations for everything from fabric to clothing to electronics to motorcycles to automobiles to Japan, then South Korea, then Malaysia...and the Folger family had extensive coffee interests in Vietnam and extensive interests in the cheap labor available there, apparently enough interest in it to become involved in the 'war effort' and to fake the murder of their daughter Abigail Folger in the Manson hoax. So in the 1960's you had a whole bunch of people wanting a piece of the action in Vietnam, be it the opium/cocaine/hashish barons or the coffee/cocoa magnates or the weapons manufacturers or the merc outfits like Blackwater.... so you can see how they all worked together to craft the fake Manson cult and fake Sharon Tate/Abigail Folger murders. In 1968, public support for the war in Vietnam was at an all-time low, even among upper-echelon military brass and politicians feeling the pressure to end American involvement. The reason things became so heated at The Presidio base was because the army 'dissidents' against the war had established significant political support and had some powerful people ready to back them. (not everyone in the game had a stake or incentive to help out the 'war effort', ie:they did not have a heroin cartel to protect from asian (Vietnamese) competition, or have an opium/coffee bean/cocoa bean plantation planned or a coffee op planned or slave op or whatever you want to call it. The pro-war forces were losing the battle for the support of the American public, which means they were losing even the support of the politicians and the military unless they pulled off something dramatic. The key to finally piecing all of this together is to understand exactly what their successfully faked murder of Sharon Tate achieved. First a quick review of who was involved and why: The manson cult was fake. Sharon Tate's father was Colonel Paul Tate, who worked at the Presidio army base with Colonel Michael Aquino and ACIO Major Peter Folger. Colonel Michael Aquino also worked with Anton LaVey in The Presidio's psychological warfare operations for the U.S. Military. LaVeys' Church of Satan headquarters was virtually located at The Presidio, two blocks south of the base itself in North San Francisco. Purported 'blood-drinking Manson girl' Susan Atkins was repeatedly photographed with Anton LeVay when she was a regular actress/stripper/dancer in the occult-themed soft porn plays he would put on in San Francisco, in 1966, only a couple of years before the big events at Tate's home on Cielo Dr. Sharon Tate's friend who purportedly was killed with her, Abigail Folger? HER (Abigail Folger's ) father was ALSO a military intelligence officer, Major Peter Folger, who also lived in San Francisco region, and also worked in same Pacific-theater military-intelligence operations that Col. Aquino and Col. Tate worked in. Abigail Folgers family are coffee barons with interests in the low cost production of coffee grown on slave plantations in Vietnam. The Vietnam War was partially about keeping the Chinese govt. or anyone else, from upholding human rights and meddling in their planned coffee/cocoa/opium slave plantations which the big boys were planning for Vietnam. Colonel Paul Tate, Sharon Tate's father, had been one of the top brass at The Presidio base when there was almost a mass mutiny and armed insurrection against them there at a time when America was a powder-keg of displeasure against the military agenda and the forced draft. A large contingent of several hundred active-duty and reserve servicemen marched at the front of the anti-war parade, which started downtown and ended at the gates outside The Presidio army base. After the 6th Army Psychological Operations Unit at the Presidio faked the murders of Colonel Tates and Major Folgers daughters (using actors like Susan Atkins Lynette Fromme, and professional songwriter Charles Manson)they used the HEarst newspaper giant to get the fake story out nationwide, and claimed that the murders had been done by 'anti-draft hippies'. Who knows what was done to the dissident soldiers as 'reprisal' for what Col. Tate , Folger, et al had claimed, falsely, was done to their daughters. The Manson hoax worked perfectly and achieved its purpose perfectly, its purpose being to offend America with heinous gruesome crime, to create public outrage, and to sway public opinion against the anti-draft 'counterculture' implicated for it. It was also calculated to give Colonel Paul Tate and Major Peter Folger the moral impetus to , lividly, mount a brutal crackdown on dissent at The Presidio as the purported 'vengeance for their daughters', and stop the ant-war uprising. Just use your imagination on what might have happened to those soldiers who had dared oppose the war? Sent straight to the front lines in 'Nam or sent there and railroaded into military prison or 'fragged'/accidentally shot' by members of their own troop? The American public having been told that these men had indirectly caused the torture/murder of Sharon Tate/Abigail Folger. Maybe dissent became unpopular at that point.
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Post by thunkerdrone on Dec 16, 2014 23:51:51 GMT -5
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Post by thunkerdrone on Dec 18, 2014 18:14:28 GMT -5
Charles Manson's purported cult following was also referred to as 'The Manson Family' or for short , simply 'The Family', as depicted in the above book about Manson Purported Manson cult girl Susan Atkins grew up in Cambridge Park, San Jose , and attended Leigh High School there, a thirty minute drive from Abigail Folger's family homestead at Bohemian Club offshoot The Family Farm, at Hidden Valley in Woodside, California: map of Susan Atkins school to Family Farm in WoodsideThe group which founded The Family Farm was an offshoot of the original Bohemian Club, aka 'The Family'. The Familyen.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_%28club%29So, in case you are dozing....Susan Atkins was purportedly a member of The Family (Manson 'Family') and grew up just thirty minutes away from 'The Family'/Bohemian Club compound in Woodside, California near San Jose known as 'The Family Farm'. (aka Hidden Valley) As previously mentioned in this thread, purported Manson victim , Sharon Tate's friend , Abigail Folger was a member of 'The Family'. Her family IS 'The Family' which founded The Family Farm in Woodside, California. Abigail Folger's fake funeral was held at the church which was built by her grandparents and by William Randolph Hearst. [img src=" " alt=" "] map here: The above area is notable for its prize horse-breeding stables and equestrian parks.deeply tanned Susan Atkins in 1989 (heinous vicious baby stabber after 20 yrs in prison)source for all Atkins photos is wwww.susanatkins.orgsource of all Atkins photos: www.susanatkins.org/05-PhotoBiography.htmllike Manson, she has extensive fan sites about her all over the internet Burnt-out LSD hippie/self-styled mutilation-murderer of pregnant women Susan Atkins in 1998 (after thirty years in a cell) Check out that tanned chest. Looks like she owns a horse ranch to me.Uh, when you look at this picture do you see a blood drinking satanic baby-murderer who has been in prison for 34 years? The above picture is of Susan Atkins in 2004. whaddayaknow....Spahn Ranch doubled not only as a movie set for westerns (movie & TV westerns) but also as a horse ranch/riding stables which provided livestock used in moviesSharon Tate was said to have been spotted visiting the riding stables on occasion before she starred in her own faked death drama. outdoorsy type Susan Atkins in 1983 (after 14 years in a cell)49 yr. old Susan Atkins in 1997 purportedly after nearly thirty years brutal prison lifeAll of these tragic pictures reveal how especially cruel the suffering meted out to the murderer of 8. 5 months pregnant famous actress Sharon Tate and her unborn baby was. Susan Atkins barely dodged the death penalty, after all, when California abolished the death penalty just weeks after she'd been sentenced to death. She reportedly confessed to torturing Sharon Tate to death with multiple cuts and stab wounds as Tate begged that the life of her baby be spared, and then drinking their blood after killing them. so its understandable that she received such severely abusive treatment in prison thereafter. (sun tanning, silk sweaters, flawless teeth/hair, outdoor photo sessions, hair extensions/ makeup , accessories, the whole brutal prison regimen is etched into her face) Q: What is Spahn Ranch? A: Spahn's Ranch is -- it is a very beautiful place. The buildings are dilapidated and falling apart but the surroundings is like a wooded area. It is up in the mountains. It used to be a movie ranch and George Spahn owns it. There is quite a few acres on the land and he still rents out horses for people to go horseback riding. Q: George Spahn is an eighty-year-old man? A: Yes. Q: He is almost totally blind? A: Yes. Q: Did you girls take care of him? A: Yes, we did.
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Post by thunkerdrone on Dec 21, 2014 16:17:12 GMT -5
Susan Atkins in 2004 (looks like she has either had expensive hair extensions or just lived an exceptionally high quality of life as far as nutrition and fitness go. The hair never lies (if that is her natural hair) n any case she is as healthy and has as good a head of hair as any wealthy actress which I have seen, and check out the teeth. Probably the biggest giveaway, here, scum to stink of it, is the teeth. She looks like she's hosting a book signing at her Chateau on the lake with her frigging yacht standing by to cruise back to the ranch when she's done. We are supposed to believe that this operative died in 2009 at only age 61, just 5 years after the above photo was taken. Her death was almost certainly faked and she's still rich and alive and as free as she has been since 1970. ACtually she is alive and freer than she has been for forty years. She has no more obligatory fake parole hearings to attend and no more fake interviews to stage. Bonafide 'Church of Satan' blood-drinking murderer Susan Atkins, 44, after 25 years in jail (1994) btw, to state the obvious, the above is not the body of a malnourished , hated prisoner after 25 years incarceration. After 25 solid years of drinking fluoridated, chlorinated lead pipe jail water and breathing stale, filthy prison air and eating whatever cheap food given and being harrassed by guards and threatened by fellow inmates etc., you do not look like that. That is the robust body of a swimmer and probably the product of weight training, spin classes, pilates, supplements etc. Bear in mind that she hasn't a trace of makeup on in these pics. Imagine how good she'd look with her eyes, lips etc. done up a bit the arrogance of these people never ceases, they actually went so far as to create pinup bunny type fanzine pics of Susan Atkins in promoting her art and books which, like Manson, she sells to collectors, on the fame of her name. They didn't seem to care that anyone would notice that the very killer of the pin-up bunny style actress Sharon Tate was being allowed to replace her. Bear in mind that Atkins did not just purportedly murder Tate, she was said to have tortured her and mutilated her while Tate begged that her baby be allowed to live, and that Atkins was sentenced to death for it. By the 1990's her celebrity and beauty nearly rivaled that of Sharon Tate's. Can you imagine the outrage of the families of all concerned, especially the families of Tate and Folger.....at seeing all of this transpire....seeing all of these pictures and how Atkins purportedly flourished in her country-club type prison, earning university degrees by mail and accolades a la Karla Homolka.... had the murders even been real, that is. Susan Atkins 1992 in her University of Tennessee (Knoxville) shirt Susan Atkin's purported murder victim , actress Sharon Tate (with makeup, btw)
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