Post by coachphilm on Dec 28, 2007 9:33:53 GMT -5
Let me start by stating first and foremost, I am not taking one side or the other on the Kevin, or Bill issue. I have some concerns that I think several of us might share.
Iam very interested in the "Who is financing the companies actions" and here is why.
"If" this is being funded by one or a small group of shareholders, and they refuse to accept any help or monies from the "average" shareholder, is the company really doing this for all or just a small group of the inner circle?
Your probly asking yourself why does it matter as long as we move forward. Let mw try to explain why I ask this question.
Now before I start let me explain Iam not saying the divies we got all this time was for real business dealings or UC excuse to dump shares. Just follow my thinking here.
1. We recieved CIM as a divy
2. We got GEMM as a divy
3. We got USCA as a divy
4. We got entg as a divy
Before BF joined the cmkm team he was very instramental in the broker statement fax in campaign with the OG and the cert fax in for the interpleader and to be bonified. He wrote a complaint letter to the NASD and stated he could prove BILLIONS of FTD in this security. He tried to enter into the revocation hearing evidence of FTD and several OG updates, as our legal representitive(stage 1 and stage 2) on the topic of FTD.
We had a discount broker who flew a rep with a box of certs just to be bonified before the dead line. A discount broker sent a rep, with certs on a pink sheet company, cmkm diamonds. and people really think there is no FTD in this security. ok getting off topic, thats a different subject all in its own.
OK now BF is legal counsel for cmkm and we hear nothing of FTD. We are being told they are borrowing monies for the company to continue to recover assets. Ok If you are the bank and you want how much to borrow and all you have is 500 in checking and no assets and you quit your private practice to persue this matter with cmkm. Thats why I think its a shareholder and not a lending source. Just guessing because we have not been told.
Ok now remember what the task force was showing as the counter kept going up as a average shareholder avg. now its been said by many we have 40,000+ shareholders, how many do you think are avg shareholders with holding less than 50mil? I would guess alot, just a guess though.
Now if we believe there is a FTD in cmkm diamonds, then all the divies we got was based on our holdings of all cmkm shares, both real and fake. Now look at our divies. they (each of the companies, GEMM and USCA) magically calculated what kind of R/S was needed to eliminate the avg shareholders divy to nothing. Basically letting all the FTD off the hook.
Now remember if there is any monies recovered for the NSS by brokers or Market Makers or hedgefunds, or sec or dtc all monies go to the company not us. Because its the company that was harmed not us. We have been harmed but the company is the shares that was nss and the company is the only one that can negotiate on thier behalf not for you and I. ok...
now if BF and Kevin is being financed by one or a small group of "big" shareholders, do they really have the avg shareholders interest at hand or just a select few. Remember they wont take money from us. Why? What IF they recieve monies both from assets and FTD and then deside to distribute those assets, will they be fair or will they be pressured to side on the side of the few that helped them financially and squeeze the avg shareholder like the other companies did with our divies.
Again Iam not saying they will or wont, Iam just voicing my opinion on a subject that I have some concerns about. The less Iam told about how and what the company is doing just brings some flags to surface.
I find it strange at best that the OG site with all the updates are gone, TF counter and data gone, BF no longer talking about FTD. Iam sure they are doing what they can with the cards dealt them, but they need to remain transparent in thier dealings and insure the AVG shareholder that all shareholder interest will be foremost on thier minds and not a selected few.
All imo, just thinking out loud. And no I dont have a plan to address the concerns I viewed, I wish I did.
Good Luck to all of us, no matter what side of the issues we stand. We all, almost all, lol have one thing in common. We still have our cmkm stock......
Coach
Iam very interested in the "Who is financing the companies actions" and here is why.
"If" this is being funded by one or a small group of shareholders, and they refuse to accept any help or monies from the "average" shareholder, is the company really doing this for all or just a small group of the inner circle?
Your probly asking yourself why does it matter as long as we move forward. Let mw try to explain why I ask this question.
Now before I start let me explain Iam not saying the divies we got all this time was for real business dealings or UC excuse to dump shares. Just follow my thinking here.
1. We recieved CIM as a divy
2. We got GEMM as a divy
3. We got USCA as a divy
4. We got entg as a divy
Before BF joined the cmkm team he was very instramental in the broker statement fax in campaign with the OG and the cert fax in for the interpleader and to be bonified. He wrote a complaint letter to the NASD and stated he could prove BILLIONS of FTD in this security. He tried to enter into the revocation hearing evidence of FTD and several OG updates, as our legal representitive(stage 1 and stage 2) on the topic of FTD.
We had a discount broker who flew a rep with a box of certs just to be bonified before the dead line. A discount broker sent a rep, with certs on a pink sheet company, cmkm diamonds. and people really think there is no FTD in this security. ok getting off topic, thats a different subject all in its own.
OK now BF is legal counsel for cmkm and we hear nothing of FTD. We are being told they are borrowing monies for the company to continue to recover assets. Ok If you are the bank and you want how much to borrow and all you have is 500 in checking and no assets and you quit your private practice to persue this matter with cmkm. Thats why I think its a shareholder and not a lending source. Just guessing because we have not been told.
Ok now remember what the task force was showing as the counter kept going up as a average shareholder avg. now its been said by many we have 40,000+ shareholders, how many do you think are avg shareholders with holding less than 50mil? I would guess alot, just a guess though.
Now if we believe there is a FTD in cmkm diamonds, then all the divies we got was based on our holdings of all cmkm shares, both real and fake. Now look at our divies. they (each of the companies, GEMM and USCA) magically calculated what kind of R/S was needed to eliminate the avg shareholders divy to nothing. Basically letting all the FTD off the hook.
Now remember if there is any monies recovered for the NSS by brokers or Market Makers or hedgefunds, or sec or dtc all monies go to the company not us. Because its the company that was harmed not us. We have been harmed but the company is the shares that was nss and the company is the only one that can negotiate on thier behalf not for you and I. ok...
now if BF and Kevin is being financed by one or a small group of "big" shareholders, do they really have the avg shareholders interest at hand or just a select few. Remember they wont take money from us. Why? What IF they recieve monies both from assets and FTD and then deside to distribute those assets, will they be fair or will they be pressured to side on the side of the few that helped them financially and squeeze the avg shareholder like the other companies did with our divies.
Again Iam not saying they will or wont, Iam just voicing my opinion on a subject that I have some concerns about. The less Iam told about how and what the company is doing just brings some flags to surface.
I find it strange at best that the OG site with all the updates are gone, TF counter and data gone, BF no longer talking about FTD. Iam sure they are doing what they can with the cards dealt them, but they need to remain transparent in thier dealings and insure the AVG shareholder that all shareholder interest will be foremost on thier minds and not a selected few.
All imo, just thinking out loud. And no I dont have a plan to address the concerns I viewed, I wish I did.
Good Luck to all of us, no matter what side of the issues we stand. We all, almost all, lol have one thing in common. We still have our cmkm stock......
Coach