Ya know Soldier, I don't think anyone looks upon this saga as being in any way "Funny". Don't think they ever did.
You question our understanding? IMO....For many.. the problem stems from what we do not understand, due to "lack of transparency", "Selective Information" & or MYOB, on some very important issues.
Your alluding of puzzlement is quite curious...... as I experience the same puzzlement with those of you that have once again chosen to yield "Blind Faith", ......have once again chosen to jump in head first , without ALL the facts.
Which category do they fit in??IF..... They have all the specifics, to the numerous IMPORTANT unanswered questions , contradictions , inconsistencies,etc..by which they have based their definite decision, to pledge undying allegiance....... Then I ask, why aren't the other 50,000 shareholders privy to ALL the answers also, so they too may make a definite WELL INFORMED decision?
ORIF.... They do NOT have the specifics to ALL the IMPORTANT unanswered questions..... then shame... shame.... It would be labeled as "Blind Faith" once again.... thus, running in circles and guilty of repeating past mistakes.
Which is it?? there is no in between Most people learn from their past mistakes in hopes of NOT repeating the same again.In your thinking or beliefs...Isn't there anything that has raised any "red flags" ? ..."Caution signs" or "question marks", regarding the current happenings in the company?
ANYTHING , anything at all?How about.........**contradictions & inconsistencies in filings or updates that are not addressed , refuted , or explained ?
**when questions asked are left unanswered or completely ignored, even though they have absolutely nothing to do with the lawsuits?
**When a story arises such as the Brewer thread?
That shares were sold/ dumped/ unloaded by those "Selected Few" who were "invited to the "Secret Meeting" in 2005....(called to order by Frizzell & Martin). giving the"selected few" the derogatory info & the chance to dump their shares on the rest of the unsuspecting shareholders?
**Through 2005-2007 Frizzell pumped out updates to ALL the shareholders, whoooppppsss...... did he forget to include this derogatory information, he & a chosen few were aware of ? If I remember those updates....they alluded, the largest NSS on a silver platter, beliefs that the claims were protected, other assets,,, etc etc.. Updates...Painting UC & CMKX in a different light to ALL . To ALL...
BUT...... the "Selected Few" who knew differently?
**Their praise and thank you's regarding UC right on up to KW accepting the CEO position.... in 2007?
**no roes or does added to any lawsuit yet... Maheu? Glenn? Stoecklein....... whoever, whatever?
**The dragging of feet in regards to serving a subpoena on UC? in person or by publication?
** the claims in updates that the Entourage shares are a "company" asset? Wonder how they can make that decision? when in fact they were to go to the shareholders? The "Business Judgement Rule" yields a backdoor for this decision and any others they see fit?
**That Frizzell takes offense & questions the motive of why any shareholder would concern them self with the Bylaws, Conversion Plan .... etc.?
ANYTHING??... Anything at all?moving on... in regards to Andy & Melvin.
A few excerpts from an exchange with go2guy.......XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXgo2guy to Andy ....2nd & 3rd paragraph"Now come on....you took over the IR position for this company and didn't do your DD on who controlled this company and was calling the shots??...You didn't question Mr. Casavant or verify any of the "facts" he was dishing out to you??? You, the master of information, did nothing but parrot what you were told? I find that incredibly hard to fathom..."
So, in essence you are telling us that you have no clue as to what the facts are..That you never decided to look into what was being shovelled at you to recite to shareholders..That you never were concerned about your integrity...That the words you used and the documents you helped to release to the public were never verified by you...the Investor Relations Professional?
imSINGLEruRICH Go2Guy
couldn't the same questions, you pose to Andy, regarding his accepting the IR position also apply to KW & BF? Bill accepting the position on the Task Force & Kevin accepting the CEO position? If I remember correctly, they too put out some important claims of information to the shareholders and also thanked UC right up to the boxes being delivered.
Just wondering??
go2guy imSINGLE....I do like a smart lady! You must take the post in its entirety and not just cherry pick.
Very clever..Did you read the last few lines of my post?
imSINGLEruRICHYes, I did read your entire post. There was no cherry picking .
The 1st & last paragraph in which you questioned Andy on his involvement & his stance at the present raised no questions to me. I like everyone else was interested & awaiting his answer. . Questions deserve answers.
But.... the 2nd & 3rd paragraphs , which addressed strictly before the fact raised the question that I posed to you. My belief is that these questions could also apply to Bill & Kevin. This is just my opinion.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXDid it ever cross your mind that just maybe Andy was only a messenger and he actually believed what UC was telling him ? Is he the only person that passed on information to the shareholders, received from UC & others ?
The info came from many different sources. From Maheu, Glenn, Frizzell, West ...right .down to Andy, Melvin & others.
Seems to me Andy would be one of the lowest on the totem pole. IMO... there are many who were higher ranked, closer to the inside, yet at that time, they too related important info to the shareholders that now seems to be unverified or hearsay?
Why do you only single out Andy & Melvin??
Confusing.... very confusing....
as always...
May ANYONE, who has done ANYTHING, that was not in the best interest of ALL shareholders receive their just due. I play no favorites... includes PAST or PRESENT.
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