By: lowriderbill - sounds like a sting to me..

[imSINGLEruRICH]

remember this is a persons opinion, theory, and or thoughts...... Take all with a grain of salt as usual.
ty loco...
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nice post lowriderbill.


by: nufced
06 Feb 2008, 01:58 PM EST
Msg. 657385 of 657486
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One more time-WHY DID EVERY INSIDER SELL__and we the shareholders are the only ones left, with shares?



By: lowriderbill
06 Feb 2008, 03:42 PM EST
Msg. 657480 of 657485
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Nufced - I've answered this question...

...many, many times over the last four years. The shares were sold to a trust to cover the short. Once the shares from the O/S increases were issued and opinion letters written, the shares were surrendered and sold. Simultaneously, the shares were purchased by a trust from the open market to offset the short. None of the purchases were reported to ADP/OBO/NOBO because there are many countries outside of the United States that don't report to these entities. The same system that brokers use to screw everyone else was used to screw them. Brokers had to purchase their electronic markers from the trust in order to deliver certificates to shareholders. All proceeds are retained in trust for distribution to the shareholders and to fund the development of claims in a new entity.

This is why Frizzell and team can continue to deny that anything will come from CMKX:)

Have a good day...

Lowriderbill

[3bid]

Hard to force myself to believe a post without an IMO.

-3bid

[x3xsolxdierx3x]

"This is why Frizzell and team can continue to deny that anything will come from CMKX:)"

That's not what I hear. In fact, Iv'e heard the opposite.....please, go read CMKX's website. They are conducting a massive shareholder audit, and are trying to get CMKX back to trading again. They wouldn't have spent so much money, and resources, on CMKX if they didn't strongly believe in a positive outcome. Assets have been acquired and they are working on getting us trading again.

[imSINGLEruRICH]

x3xsolxdierx3x said:

"This is why Frizzell and team can continue to deny that anything will come from CMKX:)"

That's not what I hear. In fact, I've heard the opposite.....please, go read CMKX's website. They are conducting a massive shareholder audit, and are trying to get CMKX back to trading again. They wouldn't have spent so much money, and resources, on CMKX if they didn't strongly believe in a positive outcome. Assets have been acquired and they are working on getting us trading again.

Soldier
There seems to be some conflicting statements coming out of Tyler....
In the 1st derivative suit they claimed to have "recently acquired assets" and have since ( in Q&A ) stuttered when questioned on it.
A bit of back pedaling here??... or is it a play on words?? or true to form just plain not answering the question asked??

"The latest filing was an amendment to the initial suit. The wording of the original suit was not changed except for the addition of the new entity as a defendant. At the time of the original complaint, the Company did own 45 million shares of Entourage Mining common stock. This asset is the subject of litigation currently filed by Entourage Mining, Ltd. against the company. "

"The Company presently owns a certificate for 45 million shares of Entourage Mining. This certificate remains whole and is the only tangible asset belonging to the company at this time."

"The Company does not appear to own any claims at this point."


Tyler has not been very transparent in regards to many many questions asked by numerous shareholders. Questions I might add that have nothing to do whatsoever with Litigation of the suits.

By their own admission, CMKX is nothing but a shell. Updates and Q&A tell tales of No assets, No money, No claims. Have they informed us of their plan of action regarding trading again? I have yet to see anything to convince me that they could make trading again a possibility.

IMO...The civil suits ,as they stand now, will yield (if money is ever collected, as winning by default does not insure payment) monies to a long list but unfortunately the shareholders are placed at the very bottom. Besides the numerous Lawyers, Forensic accountants, Susan Trimbath, Frizzell, West, Financiers, and TOGI , we cannot forget the IRS. What will be left for the shareholders?

The "Veil of Secrecy" , the "Selective Information", ""Contradictions" and the total disregard of answering important questions asked by the shareholders leave many suspicious, curious, wondering,,,, (call it whatever ) on just what the heck is going on.

We are all left to form our own conclusions, theories and thoughts.
For me "Blind Faith" is absolutely not an option. A lesson well learned.


2+2 does not=4.... many ?? marks hanging.
Still hoping that there is more to this than meets the eye.
Still hoping the shareholders will prevail.


so we wait........

Single

[imSINGLEruRICH]

more Lowriderbill


By: lowriderbill
31 Jan 2008, 11:08 PM EST
Msg. 653522 of 657605
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My69Z - I know Seatech...

...isn't referring to you personally. He's just emphasizing the point to many that don't know or understand what the exact process is. Many want to question/criticize the work that someone else has done instead of actually calling to find out what the score really is. Don't forget those that simply put out false, misleading, or incomplete information either. You wouldn't be included in either group:)

As far as what's currently happening, there is nothing going on at the moment. The time to serve has expired, thus the opportunity to publish has expired as well. I see rumors of an amended suit with no action. I see no service to Urban by any means. I see no reason why a savvy legal team would wait until the time to serve has expired to file an amended suit. What has been discovered in the last few weeks that hasn't been known for the last few months or better? Why drag this out instead of trying to get it to a speedy resolution?

In all honesty I hope the delay is that Tyler and Urban have been working on or reached some sort of settlement. I'd like to see Entourage get their shares returned and the claims revert back to Koch. I'd like to see the dirty CMKX shell go away and all the hassle with it. I'd like to see all bonafide shareholders be offered a conversion into a new company where we follow the claims and take part in the growth of the FALC. It doesn't matter whether Casavant is involved or not. Koch, Shore, Shane, Star, United, etc are the main players and I believe we're involved somehow. It just hasn't been announced yet.

And if there's a dividend or share tender thrown in there somewhere, they I'll be much obliged. We'll see if some or most of the dots we've tried to connect will appear as we think...

Lowriderbill

Chris - please remember that the info posted in my earlier post regarding the court matters was verified.



By: my69z
06 Feb 2008, 04:57 PM EST
Msg. 657531 of 657605
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Low,,,,I forgot who Sea waas cause it's been a while....had lunch with him and another guy here in Texas coupple yrs ago,,,,,good guy.

" As far as what's currently happening, there is nothing going on at the moment. The time to serve has expired, thus the opportunity to publish has expired as well. I see rumors of an amended suit with no action. I see no service to Urban by any means. I see no reason why a savvy legal team would wait until the time to serve has expired to file an amended suit. What has been discovered in the last few weeks that hasn't been known for the last few months or better? Why drag this out instead of trying to get it to a speedy resolution? "

?? I don't know bub,,,,can't answer for these guys....but there wasn't a motion to amend filed.....soo ??

" In all honesty I hope the delay is that Tyler and Urban have been working on or reached some sort of settlement. I'd like to see Entourage get their shares returned and the claims revert back to Koch. I'd like to see the dirty CMKX shell go away and all the hassle with it. I'd like to see all bonafide shareholders be offered a conversion into a new company where we follow the claims and take part in the growth of the FALC. It doesn't matter whether Casavant is involved or not. Koch, Shore, Shane, Star, United, etc are the main players and I believe we're involved somehow. It just hasn't been announced yet. "

I agree 100% with ya except for the claims goin back to Koch....CMKX owns the work he's produced,,,,those claims should be the leverage for any kind of "CMKX" movin forward.....he (shareholders) who has the value or rights to it,, usually gets the better end of a deal.

" Chris - please remember that the info posted in my earlier post regarding the court matters was verified."

My whole point has been,,,there could be more to this than just lets say.....a length of service expiring and if it did,,,,that dosen't mean CMKX's case is "legally" dead.....show cause to a judge.

Would I be happy to see this happen for just no reason??...hellll noo,,,,i'd be pissed for "us".

But lets say Lenght expires,,,,,,that's not a nail in a sense that many probably think "Urban" is now off tha hook....just as the flip is....getting a judgement by default ....dosen't mean a defendant can't show up and join the case,,,,,and there's still an option that a judge might even appoint an attorney for a defendent.

But even all this aside,,,,,there's alot of legal steps that CMKX hasn't even taken not only in this case,,,,,but the Edwards/Desemorue one too.

I'am personally NOT happy as to how quiet everything has gone...i don't agree with some super secret need,,,,or gags or any of that.

There's ALOT,,,of stuff that Kevin has himself brought up and we have no closure on a single thing....not one,,,,and i know there's "litigation"......but give me a break

All i can say is......"based on the geologists opinion and survey results" & "moved the drill to what is believed to be the center of the kimberlite",,,,that was in late '05/'06.

that's the only reason I still follow this thing....i wanna know what tha hell happened from there up to today.

Later bub!

[imSINGLEruRICH]

3bid said:

Hard to force myself to believe a post without an IMO.

-3bid

3bid
I noticed that right away too and thought wow..not an IMO.. BUT someone on another board called him on it and this was his reply.... lol lol... sounds like ongoing tension between the two.


lowriderbill
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Re: By: lowriderbill - sounds like a sting to me.
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Should I go back and add IMO for you Sweetie? I think everyone knows it's just that until it's proven as fact. Many of my conclusions are drawn from facts as well as opinions.

As far as those smiting you, it's probably because they just don't like you. You always have some sort of comment when often it's best not to say anything at all. Personally I think you just like to argue with people. You're entitled to say anything you want, just remember to expect a reaction from others.

BTW, it wasn't me who smited you since I've never even used the feature. If I didn't like you I'd just tell you or run you over with my Harley:)

Lowriderbill

[hundredtoone]

"The Company presently owns a certificate for 45 million shares of Entourage Mining. This certificate remains whole and is the only tangible asset belonging to the company at this time."

IMO this is a LIE...only BONA FIDE SHAREHOLDERS(us with CERTS) own those ENT shares...and that is why TYLER does not even hold the CERT...DS does...as for he SHAREHOLDER AUDIT...that has been going on since the OG...what 2005??...only three YEARS ago...must be the longest audit in HISTORY...everything else is HISTORIC so why not the WAIT too??...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial)