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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:19:51 GMT -5
By: ravenpeach1 29 Apr 2007, 09:51 PM EDT Msg. 536140 of 536197 (This msg. is a reply to 536127 by logic104.) Jump to msg. # Logic.... Stay here..... Watch... and see what is next .... In my opinion...... This is about to take on a precedence never before seen or heard of..... You watched this far....just a little more time on your part to witness "THE REST OF THE STORY" IMHO it will be worth your while! God Bless Ravenpeach ____________________________________________________ By: ravenpeach1 29 Apr 2007, 09:57 PM EDT Msg. 536148 of 536197 (This msg. is a reply to 536144 by cmkmtd.) Jump to msg. # Anything worthwhile is never easy but desireable to have.... Patience is a virtue Worth all the time and effort if it is honorable and attainable by ethical manners...... and I do believe, we have definitely found the motherload of all corruption and have obtained the route to achieve great things when all is finally said and done......IMHO of course..... Goodnight God Bless Ravenpeach ____________________________________________________ By: ravenpeach1 29 Apr 2007, 08:43 PM EDT Msg. 536056 of 536198 (This msg. is a reply to 535351 by abadgoodgirl.) Jump to msg. # Abad.. "Things are starting to come together after three years of studying this fiasco." Couldn't have said it better... You are the best... thanks again! Looks like we made it..... God Bless You and Yours Looking forward to seeing you.....meeting your family! Ravenpeach _____________________________________________________ By: ravenpeach1 29 Apr 2007, 10:03 PM EDT Msg. 536156 of 536198 Jump to msg. # You can't be VINDICATED until Charged...Correct? eom nite
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:20:16 GMT -5
By: repeaterpete 30 Apr 2007, 05:00 PM EDT Msg. 536820 of 536831 Jump to msg. # Worth repeating:
what would it look like if we won I mean really won, the white house would be wiped out and that is happening, sweeping market changes the most in thirty years and major wholesale changes in the sec and fed that happened, and the one main link would have to happen and I think I believe it is about to happen:
XXXXX-XXXX: I was told by a good friend that banks are now changing over all documentation to show the US Treasury backing the currency and not the FDIC (Federal Reserve) anymore
What's going on?
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:20:34 GMT -5
By: billy80817 30 Apr 2007, 01:08 PM EDT Msg. 536599 of 536600 (This msg. is a reply to 536567 by jay_adobe.) Jump to msg. # Good morning jay...
The paint being put on the canvas sure is forming a bleak picture. And so many are accepting this reality.
When a person begins to agree with the bashers, the bashers have won and met their agenda. If we were to trade right now how many would sell their entire positions based on being fed continuous negative chatter on every board 24/7 combined with the recent events?
90 to 95%...how do you cover a major short position and allow the SEC to maintain a good reputation? Strike a deal that's how.
Who is the deal between and do we benefit? Obviously Urban and the SEC with court being a dog and pony show like last time but this time with a twist.
ocd
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:20:53 GMT -5
By: jay_adobe 30 Apr 2007, 12:45 PM EDT Msg. 536567 of 536573 Jump to msg. # If not focused on the bouncing ball, you will find some very interesting reading material out there today. More to come. Enjoy your day.
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:21:21 GMT -5
By: billy80817 30 Apr 2007, 12:20 PM EDT Msg. 536511 of 536534 Jump to msg. # The traits of the lemming is what one could say.
Funny, now all the bashers (from Urban as CEO days) on every board have everyone it seems wanting Urban's head on a stake. Pounding their fists on the table demanding justice.
All these lawsuits sure is looking bad isn't it? Again, if I was guilty of so many insider trading crimes would I put a man in position I knew would go after me and take me to court? Only if there was a reason...
You can catch one fish at a time or you can use a seine net and catch many.
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:21:41 GMT -5
By: phatboy1988 30 Apr 2007, 10:08 AM EDT Msg. 536339 of 536348 Jump to msg. # By: jay_adobe (Be thankful people) How's that wealth Jay? 21 Nov 2005, 04:57 PM EST Msg. 1238647 of 1308040 Jump to msg. # We have much to be thankful for this week. Take some time and think about it deeply and retrospectively. Never before has an opportunity such as this come along in the financial markets of the world. Never will the opportunity for it to occur happen again.
Be thankful:
-That Mr. Casavant never gave up over the last 20 years, but had a vision that brought us to where we are today. Not many men in this world would be at the helm of this ship at this point of this particular situation. Not many men would risk it all, to include especially, his entire historically significant family name. Not many men would spend the time and effort and resources to do for you what he has and is doing for al
By: jay_adobe 30 Apr 2007, 10:11 AM EDT Msg. 536343 of 536348 (This msg. is a reply to 536339 by phatboy1988.) Jump to msg. # phatboy, Thank you for posting that very prolific post. And I'm glad to see you finally coming around in your thought processes. Again thank you and be thankful for this beautiful day ahead of us.
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:22:17 GMT -5
ralph Diamond Cutter Level 5 ***** Didn't a recent PR say there where NO TRUSTS? Hmmmmm I thought I read in the suit there are trusts.... this is getting confusing..... LOL Bless you, Ralphie www.courthousenews.com/Casavant.pdf
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:22:36 GMT -5
By: jcline 30 Apr 2007, 12:40 AM EDT Msg. 340119 of 340127 (This msg. is a reply to 340096 by passinthru3.) Jump to msg. #
I have a real CMKX story:
Frizzell Update: Sept 30, 2005
Greetings Group Members,
I have received several emails of late inquiring about our naked short investigation. We have continued to tally shares by people that have sent their statements to us but the numbers are not changing significantly. We proved a huge naked short position in this company a long time ago. Our documentation substantiates 482 billion shares (approximately) owned by 11557 shareholders. This does not include cert holders. There remains approximately 48000 shareholders that have not sent us their holdings. By my estimates there are at least a trillion and a half shares that have been sold in CMKX stock. When all shares (including foreign and obo accounts) are added to the mix, the total could exceed two trillion shares. Have a good weekend.
Onward,
Bill
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:22:56 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 30 Apr 2007, 09:07 AM EDT Msg. 536304 of 536334 (This msg. is a reply to 532040 by oil.ipo.) Jump to msg. # Any associations of Urban's that worked with him- High Profile legal counsel especially must have done extensive research and found out everything that they needed to know about Both Urban's Liabilities and his investment style before establishing those relationships. No stones unturned. If any of those associations/relationships were tainted in any way they would have been disassembled long before press releases hit the wires establishing their identities and GOALS. High profile individuals do not tie themselves to scammers unless they represent criminals in a court of law. Fact. Unless of course there are underlying reasons for this....By the time we hear about this stuff it is ancient history as we are now well aware.. Who had these boxes, and how long was this earth shattering forensic information stored inside them available to the professionals who had them? ahhhaaa
Previous post;
My, my, my, all this time waiting for news and when it finally comes it all seems so bleak, and down. We can salvage the company though ALL in the nick of time and plug the damage if we start anew..Just a little better odds than that of the "Titanic" in the Spring of April 1912.. The TITANIC went down. Many lives and valuable assets were lost at sea. That is pretty much the story that is remembered today. Kind of the way that CMKM would be remembered years from now is my guess in the eyes of the public only. One very large IDENTIFIED shorted vessel sunken at sea. Just a marker of remembrance and nothing more. Certainly not the vehicle that cleaned up the entire Naked Shorted Marketplace and righted every vessel along side of it that took on thousands of gallons of water in their naked shorted galleys. Ahhhaaa I think that we might have reason to believe that many do not want the story of our existence,struggles, and liabilities to be commemorated or is that commiserated? Is there much more bad stuff to come before the good stuff?
Oil
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:23:25 GMT -5
By: jay_adobe 29 Apr 2007, 08:12 PM EDT Msg. 535992 of 536266 (This msg. is a reply to 535970 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. # jfarn, There's no need for that type of banter. Each person has a set of facts and a stack of literature or pile of information that is interpreted individually, based on each's experience and knowledge levels. The final card has not dropped yet in this game of poker, so in the best interest of being gentlemanly, why don't we just wait until the end before being unkind to our fellow shareholders, especially one who researches and digs and uncovers so much. Just wait. Right now there are those that want you to watch the bouncing ball, for whatever reason is justifiable to the next move which I believe we'll see within the next two days. The bouncing ball right now is the lawsuit. Some will watch it intently. Others will see through it and focus elsewhere. The ride has been long and rough on most of the shareholders. Hang on and be kind to your fellow shareholders. imo
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By: elo54 29 Apr 2007, 08:35 PM EDT Msg. 536029 of 536267 (This msg. is a reply to 536022 by cmkmtd.) Jump to msg. # CMKM-not yet.More lawsuits coming,more deep pockets to follow. ELO
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By: elo54 29 Apr 2007, 08:39 PM EDT Msg. 536043 of 536267 (This msg. is a reply to 536028 by currentplay1.) Jump to msg. # First reaction will be SHOCK!!!!!been there a long time ago.Second reaction within a few days will be ANGER!!!!!been there a long time ago.Third reastion will be the BLAME GAME!!!!!!!!!!I'm still on that one. ELO
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By: elo54 29 Apr 2007, 08:44 PM EDT Msg. 536058 of 536267 (This msg. is a reply to 536047 by abadgoodgirl.) Jump to msg. # Abad-I'm afraid you would have been first in line at the Jim Jones koolaid death concert.Very sad for an intelligent bright woman not seeing the evidence in front of your face. ELO
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By: abadgoodgirl 29 Apr 2007, 08:47 PM EDT Msg. 536067 of 536268 (This msg. is a reply to 536058 by elo54.) Jump to msg. # elo, I do see evidence in front of my face. Frizzell's trillions he proved. The Cert pull and the decade of meetings where the United States knew its clearing and settlement system was dysfunctional and out of compliance regarding international standards.. oh, and don't forget the US lying to the committees and task force. The NSCC even lied in their response to the Framework Disclosure response prepared in 2003.
27 trillion versus 200 million...and with that 200 million he proved an NSS beyond a shadow of a doubt because with that 200 million he built the biggest stockholder base on the planet.
Do ya see it now?
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:24:00 GMT -5
By: grajekk 29 Apr 2007, 11:49 PM EDT Msg. 536234 of 536264 (This msg. is a reply to 536223 by dustybutler1001.) Jump to msg. # The judge would not let info on naked shorting be allowed last go round. Urban said the company would obey court wishes. If he did buy back a huge pile of shares, now he will be forced to show the hand rather than having a court ordered fold. At the races, when I asked Ron C if Urban was buying shares on the open market, I got a no comment, smile, & I gotta go from him. It was my feeling at the time that Urban was buying. - - - - -
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 17:24:31 GMT -5
By: Bellingus 30 Apr 2007, 07:33 AM EDT Msg. 20981 of 20981 Jump to msg. # The usual suspects… I see all the usual suspects, the diaper brigade, the knee-jerks who have never taken the time to look at the big picture are out in full force condemning what they do not know. These would be the same ppl who refuse to look at the company’s business plan of 2003 (the 14C filing) and see how it is directly related to much of what is in the complaint against the ppl who financed and ran the company. Of course, reading that long document would take time along with the need to use real reasoning power and analytical skills that are so often lacking in the make-up of knee-jerks. So, these ppl follow along blindly. Sad, but really funny at the same time.
These would also be the ppl who have been co conditioned to certain ideas that they wouldn’t even stop for a minute to wonder why the Casavants would invite BF and KW in to run the company only to turn around and hit UC with certain accusations a few months later. Doesn’t that seem just a little unusual? And it is the same ppl who do not stop to even ponder why, all of a sudden the new management SEEMS to be so concerned with the irrelevant nonsense posted on message boards. Remember the line from the Wizard of Oz, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..." LMAO
These are also the same ppl who apparently don’t understand the difference between an accusation and a proven conviction. Isn’t there something in our constitution about being innocent until proven guilty? Of course many members of the diaper corps wouldn’t know anything about due process unless it was something that could be explained in sound bytes on some inane reality show. MOOOO…
It may not be a very kind or forgiving term, but I have referred to the usual suspects before as the herd – and it’s really funny to see them all gloating right now and mobilizing for a stampede. Of course, it’s rare for any single member of a herd or a mob to stop and actually examine what they do or why they are doing it. But that’s okay. The problem with being in a herd is it's almost essential that you have your nose up some other herd member's butt. Yuk!
As with everything around this stock, what is happening right before your eyes is only what the company, yes, the team, wants you to see and it is only a very tiny fraction of what is really going on.
One could say that we’ve been watching a mystery movie for the past few years. And even with all the excellent clues, and REAL evidence that will never be offered on any message board, the usual suspects, the diaper brigade, the herd continues to miss the real plot. Ah, the irony… AMHO. And yes, I still trust the ppl who started all of this.
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 19:57:09 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 30 Apr 2007, 08:55 PM EDT Msg. 537026 of 537027 Jump to msg. # THE CLAIMS WE "FOERFEITED" WILL YIELD But think about this.......isn't this suit about fraud & deceit??
Then why in the world is Mr.Koch including Urban's "opinion" on those claims we sold to Entg??
" ...will yield the largest and most prolific diamond field ever discovered"
This was obviously said AFTER...Kevin flew to Canada a few weeks ago.And what in the world does it have to do with this suit?? Urbans "opinion"??
like I said a monkey could figure this out and figure out who some of these lame characters on the net really are, I mean do you really think braindamage is this dumb, come on.
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Post by JoeRockss on Apr 30, 2007 20:02:19 GMT -5
By: my69z 30 Apr 2007, 05:49 PM EDT Msg. 536842 of 537031 Jump to msg. # ...Imo,,,Urban's Guilty... Imo,,,,he will be goin to jail.....in the least for Fidicuary Duties. Look at numbers 17,21 & 22 for starters. No where near as guilty as the ring leaders,,,,,,but guilty. I think he did see somethin in that ground and got ahead of himself. But think about this.......isn't this suit about fraud & deceit?? Then why in the world is Mr.Koch including Urban's "opinion" on those claims we sold to Entg?? " ...will yield the largest and most prolific diamond field ever discovered" This was obviously said AFTER...Kevin flew to Canada a few weeks ago.And what in the world does it have to do with this suit?? Urbans "opinion"?? Is Kevin a Geologist now?? ( no disrespect what so ever ) And we're now going to work to prove up the claims with Entg?? Thought there was no operating capital? And Mr.Koch said.....several million was spent on drilling,,,,,no exact amount...but the other numbers are known?? My point is this.............Urban is a small fish,,,,my bet now is he ACTUALLY....did find somethin and will be losin it all due to the fraud. But it's now written that he was the 1st to say.......there lies the largest find ever. ( After all,,,he is a prospector first. And if these suit s were to prove him guilty,,,then why such a nasty picture? The hard a picture you paint,,,,the harder it is to clear him. A sweet....bitter end for the "Casavants"?? I think they are no longer listed as insiders at Entg now. And this suit made me think of this old post..... ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=381242 Gltua, Chris
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 30, 2007 20:33:25 GMT -5
cmkxunitedforum.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1177981053By: bulletgirlny 30 Apr 2007, 02:33 PM EDT Msg. 21033 of 21048 Jump to msg. # Under 18 U.S.C. § 1963(d), the government may seek a restraining order upon the filing of a RICO indictment, in order to preserve all forfeitable assets until the trial is completed and judgment entered. Such orders can have a wide-ranging impact on third parties who do business with the defendants, including clients, vendors, banks, investors, creditors, dependents, and others. Some highly publicized cases involving RICO restraining orders have been the subject of considerable criticism in the press, because of a perception that pre-trial freezing of assets is tantamount to a seizure of property without due process. In order to ensure that the rights of all interested parties are protected, the Criminal Division has instituted the following requirements to control the use of restraining orders in RICO prosecutions. (It should be noted that these requirements are in addition to any other existing requirements, such as review by the Asset Forfeiture Office.): As part of the approval process for RICO prosecutions, the prosecutor must submit any proposed forfeiture restraining order for review and approval by the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section. The prosecutor must show that less-intrusive remedies (such as bonds) are not likely to preserve the assets for forfeiture in the event of a conviction; In seeking approval of a restraining order, the prosecutor must articulate any anticipated impact that forfeiture and the restraining order would have on innocent third parties, balanced against the government's need to preserve the assets; In deciding whether forfeiture (and, hence, a restraining order) is appropriate, the Section will consider the nature and severity of the offense; the government's policy is not to seek the fullest forfeiture permissible under the law where that forfeiture would be disproportionate to the defendant's crime; When a RICO restraining order is being sought, the prosecutor is required, at the earliest appropriate time, to state publicly that the government's request for a restraining order, and eventual forfeiture, is made in full recognition of the rights of third parties--that is, in requesting the restraining order, the government will not seek to disrupt the normal, legitimate business activities of the defendant; will not seek through use of the relation-back doctrine to take from third parties assets legitimately transferred to them; will not seek to vitiate legitimate business transactions occurring between the defendant and third parties; and will, in all other respects, assist the court in ensuring that the rights of third parties are protected, through proceedings under 18 U.S.C. § 1963(1) and otherwise. The Division expects that the prosecutor will announce these principles either at the time the indictment is returned or, at the latest, at the first proceeding before the court concerning the restraining order. �
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