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Post by cyrano700 on Jun 17, 2007 13:54:52 GMT -5
live, love and relax. why would someone even post this on a board with a nonchalant attitude. peace and god bless! we are capitalists, however,each to a certain degree. i'm sorry but any religious believer that thinks God is a tool for profiteering is blatanly WRONG! Read your Bible people and quit trying to gain Guru status dragging on a supreme beings coat-tail. it is greed why we are here. if not, everyone would be satisfied with their .0001 back and donate it to a homeless shelter. I hate it when people use God and a monetary purchases in the same sentence. IMHO For me it is not greed but a great desire to help others with my monetary gain. No where in the Bible does it say God does not want us to have money or wealth. Remember, the Bible says that the love of money is the root of all evil not the possession of it. I believe that when blessed, a person has a mandatory obligation to share with those less fortunate. If we are given talents/money from CMKX, it is our duty to make something of it and not just sit on it, bury it in the ground or devise other ways of being greedy and not sharing. That is Biblical. But doesn't the fanatical chase of that money, as demonstrated by the legions of wackos involved with CMKX indicate they have the "love" of the money ? The possesion will be given unto them, they need not ridicule with hatred those who claim scam. I think you see only what you want to see. I can clearly see greed and love of money in all who still cling to this fantasy.
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Post by enoughalready on Jun 17, 2007 13:56:58 GMT -5
OK. Enough..stick to information
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Post by tec1958 on Jun 17, 2007 13:58:22 GMT -5
Topic: Letting the Mystery Be... (Read 18 times) ChuckWheat Administrator
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There are more important things in life than mere money...family and God above all.
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,911 Letting the Mystery Be... « Thread Started on Today at 1:56pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CMKX has provided many things in lieu of the ROI we all hoped to see. Among them:
- The always interesting Melvin...the man who once was IR, who is once again an IR for another company...wild, goofy, personable, and sometimes profound in his observations and thoughts.
- Andy, his successor. Once a great cheerleader on the payroll, then a born-again "realist"...but since his rebirth, is quite consistent.
- The company: What can we say? A huge parade of significant names adorn our corporate history; we've seen everything from a huge shindig to a government hearing; periods of deafening silence followed by abrupt plot changes that rival a soap-opera in it's drama; millions of acres of claims that seemingly have dwindled to near nothingness before our eyes; first it's everywhere from billboards to major racing events, the next day you can't find a corporate office.
- The racing: We "Got CMKX" cars...for a brief shining moment. Now we have disgruntled racers, and investors wondering why money was sunk into something like racing instead of working those millions of claims.
- The Party: Why have a party if there's nothing here to celebrate? (If it was for Urban, it appears he got ripped off by psycho-girl...lol)
- Us investors: We have something for everyone...everything from those who probably dumpster dive for negative info, to those who will claim to know everything is OK and (btw) "we're getting paid tomorrow". Most seemingly have decided that they have it all figured out...they know what the "master plan" was, how massive US government conspiracies have conspired to form a "perfect storm" of pain on a revoked pink sheet company, that some public servant that has the keys to a huge chunk of federal loot that somehow President Reagan foresaw coming in the 1980s would need to be allocated specifically to the unjustly jilted investors of a Canadian diamond exploration company in the 2000s.
- Then we have the "Hall of Famers":
--Acca, the guy who will tell you that your troubles are over tomorrow...day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year...
--Pedro, the consistently Urban-hating info-phile with a gift for digging up dirt and a curse of not being able to balance it with a bit of humility, decency, or common sense.
Most of us want to make sense of that which makes no sense. Some want to cling to a guru's words because they want to feel better (even if their guru couldn't find truth in the air they breathe). We know there's many highly important things we don't know yet...but most seem to miss that only a handful of people really know what those things are, and they aren't talking.
So we fill in the gaps with guesses and theories tied to fact fragments, and hope that's a reasonable explanation for what's happened.
I suggest a different path, respectfully. Ignorance (a lack of knowledge about a specific subject, or large parts of it) is a word that is frequently confused with stupidity (an inability to understand things that an average person should be capable of comprehending); admitting ignorance, rather than being a weakness, demonstrates wisdom and strength in those who practice it. How many here understand the complex inner workings of a 1920's pocket watch, or all the steps required to design, build, and distribute a brand-new car in the US? Is it a sin that you haven't yet learned these things...or is it a matter of "you only know what you know"?
Right now, there is much we are ignorant about. This ignorance doesn't come from a lack of effort on our collective behalf...it comes from the fact that those with the pertinent knowledge have elected not to share it with us in a meaningful way. Until we know these facts, our guesses and theories amount to entertainment at best, misinformation at worst.
So this Father's Day I choose to "let the mystery be"...to recognize my own ignorance about the affairs of my company is not something to fear or be ashamed of, but rather the result of decisions by those I've entrusted with my investment dollars. And I call on those men and women with that power to give me, as an investor in their dreams, some information that doesn't rely on popular theorism or flamboyant personality about what my money is doing today.
And I wish all Fathers (and Grandfathers) the absolute best this fine day...
With Respects- C-Dub
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Post by JoeRockss on Jun 17, 2007 14:00:13 GMT -5
By: jay_adobe 16 Jun 2007, 11:06 PM EDT Msg. 561910 of 562004 Jump to msg. # john339 on millionaires board: You, sir, don't know how accurate you really are to what is happening. Great post. I commend you. Well stated. Enjoy your weekend. imo John's post: tinyurl.com/35jswr John's post john3339 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Squeeze gently ..........................but PAY BIG! Member Info Status: online Joined: Nov 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 1,657 Location: Fairfax, VA Karma: 71 [ Exalt | Smite ] Contact Icons What's KW doing suing the sole owner of CMKX? « Thread Started on Yesterday at 7:57pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It has been presented, the idea that UC owns the float. If indeed he owns the float, on top of at least 51% of the voting shares, he comes pretty close to being 100% owner of all the real shares. Except for maybe a small percentage of shares, UC is sole owner of CMKX then. Flash over to the law suit, where KW is suing to gain back CMKX assets...maybe $200 million dollars worth. Who is he suing? For one, it's the guy who is close to, if not THE sole owner of CMKX already. Sole proprietorship. what we shareholders have, are counterfeit certificates...certified naked short shares. WE don't own the company, Urban owns it! How does one steal from himself? He can't. the whole enchalada belongs to Urban. We own the NSSs that shortie has to cover when Urban shows his hand, and his hand is holding all the real cards! This brings up the question, why is KW suing Urban? It's the bouncing ball. KW is following orders to create the smoke and mirrors while the SEC and other quasi-governmental agencies squirm in negotiations, trying to find an equitable solution that Urban will accept, for the benefit of shareholders who were screwed by shortie and the system. When Urban announces he owns the company, the law suit becomes moot point as it pertains to himself, and continues on against the other named defendants. We, holding the naked short position, either get the settlement worked out by Urban, or Urban takes us back to trading, with ALL of the shares we hold being naked shorts, which will HAVE to be covered on an open market short squeeze. IF shortie and the quasi-governmental agencies don't settle up front. When everyone kept callng CMKX a private company, just because it got revoked, it sounded not right to me. We might have been revoked, but CMKX could not be private unless all of the outstanding shares were owned by the one private individual (or family). Like Ford Motor company used to be. Being revoked, with real shares outstanding would make us simply a revoked public company. But I think we're not. We own fake shares in a private company, where Urban owns the company. with KW not mentioning the naked short position, it makes me feel like this may indeed be the case. imo, KW has been told to stay clear of the NSS issue, since it is under negotiations at this time. Killing the GFC unanimously by the SEC, happened because of the leverage 2+trillion naked shorts would have against the SEC endorsed system, would be more than enough publicity and exposure that the SEC couldn't let the markets stand the scandal. truly, the system would collapse. so yeah, I think a settlement is coming. and all our fake shares are going to be covered for UC's negotiated price. We'll be left outside the private company, CMKX. but probably, UC will bring on CIM to replace it. Oh, and right before revocation, wasn't it also said that UC was buying more share too? Yeah, he gets some of the negotiated settlement money too. Bottom line: CMKX is indeed a private company imo. UC owns it all (nearly all). He can't steal from himself, so the lawsuit is moot point against him, but still active against the other bad guys. The settlement is to cover all the fake counterfeit shares WE own. Finally, KW continues the charade by direction...he has no clue about where the authority comes from, except that UC had authority to appoint him, and now he doesn't even question the authority of his office. KW doesn't need our approval, because UC owns the whole company...and UC is telling KW what to do and what to say. It's all been done by design and plan, beginning with the introduction of Roger Glenn. to fix a corrupt system. The problem was tougher than what Glenn could handle...enter IBM...the man with the plan. It fits. we shall see. imo john
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 17, 2007 15:20:18 GMT -5
crispiolnu DIAMOND DIGGER Member Info Status: online Joined: Jan 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 53 Location: Valencia, Spain Karma: 2 [ Exalt | Smite ] Contact Icons Re: What's KW doing suing the sole owner of CMKX? « Reply #65 on Today at 3:08pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 10:32am, icanoe1 wrote:Great post John I always thought kinda the opposite of what your stating. UC owns all the shares you state. However we received all our certs making them REAL shares. UC owns all the NS. Now he has the hammer to negotiate. The NS is more powerful in the hands of the negotiator then all of ours imo. We needed to get all of our real certs to prove the short. Real or not he still would have the majority and all the rights associate with such. IMO Urban would not come out and say I own the company showing his NS holdings. That exposes the SEC and Shorty which is what they have been trying to avoid. I have said dozens of times over the last months that the Grand Father clause had nothing to do with CMKX being that CMKX as a NON reporting company never would have qualified as a threshold security under SHO regulation. That was true in the past. However should CMKX ever become a fully reporting company once again (or move into one), with the GFC having been repealed, then yes all them FTDs would come under SHO regulation. So maybe the GFC being repealed IS a sign that the Naked Shorts have been settled. Now I'm not saying that CMKX is going to trade again. Just that the possibility was a liability to the SEC and Shorty as long as the NS existed. The GFC protected them against it. Now that the GFC is gone the NS liability is gone. Settled. How we move on from here who knows. Owning real certed CMKX shares we all have rights to move where ever CMKX moves. just a few thoughts fwiw canoe Our obtained certificates after February of the 2006, that was the date in which the majority obtained them at least here in Spain are all false ones. I can assure so that my wife and friends have repeated numbers. By the way my it puts NOBO, nevertheless those of my friends and the one of my woman does not put it. I believe that all the certificates of the Taskforce are NSS. Ihmo. Cris millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1182041830&page=4Thought the above post was interesting. Not sure I understand what he is saying about the NOBO, but it soulds like he is saying that his states it is short....Hmmmmmm. Oh, did you all know that there are spanish cmkx boards? If there is a Spanish board for 2 years. groups.google.com/group/accionistascmkx?msg=subscribe All uniting with CMKX. Luck. Cris There is no Spanish Acca. Here all very worried about as estan the things with CMKX go, and it is asked if it is or not a SCAM. It is not understood as the one of the NSS in the USA can happen.
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 17, 2007 18:51:52 GMT -5
Another good one...IMO....... cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1181745625&page=2timewilltell Ace of Diamonds Status: Online Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,448 Re: WHOOHOO BYE BYE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE! « Reply #30 on Today at 5:34pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i am going to try and explain a thought that has come to mind , its all IMO.no facts but i like it, we all rememember when the news was announced in 2006 , that the feds misplaced and couldnt account for 2trillion dollars , well we all know thats a lot of money , you just dont misplace that much or cant account for it , , and we all know that there were some 1.9 trillion shares shorted in cmkx, right so far , i think, recently the sec has said they cleaned up the markets , in order to appeal the grand father law , isnt that a COINDICENCE ( we heard that word before) < well supose the sec sat down and made a deal to abolish the G,F,R, and we , clean up the nss, you keep the 2 trillion (THE CO) and we right off the nss, in order to abolish the G.F.R., the hedge funds, and the dastardly m,m,s , and brokers say okay , and pony up some cash , and wallow!!we have a share holders trust fund , then we have a phony court hearing, , and wait for the judge , ( A GOOD MAN), to make a decision to give the word , pay off time , , so my feeling in this matter is that if all is as described , we should be getting as said by some , at least 3.50 a share for our frustrations and our loyalty to the co.now i know its only an opinion, but are not those above facts true, , its been said its all in the prs , and its so the more we review we can see what has been happening right in front of us , now my 3.50 . may be low . just a guess on my part, god bless us all , twt,
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Post by eastcoastswing on Jun 17, 2007 19:14:01 GMT -5
I personally think with all the DD out there that we are going to get paid. The frustrating part is to not know when or not really get solid information from the company with all these events over the last week. I am not an ACCA lover but he did say that he expected a PR last week but was not 100%. I hope we hear something soon. Doesn't this need to be finished 35 days from last Wednesday per SEC?
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 17, 2007 19:26:00 GMT -5
By: hundredinone 17 Jun 2007, 05:05 PM EDT Msg. 562197 of 562264 Jump to msg. # If you think about it any REAL COMMUNICATION to the SHAREHOLDERS will HAVE to be by MAIL IMO...not many shareholders are following this like we do I doubt...so a PACKET is LOGICAL if there is to be a GREAT DEAL of INFORMATION to transfer and also if there are any VOTES or DECISIONS we need to make...the WEB SITE is just for SHORTY or the few of us LONGS still left following this...and I BELIEVE KW and BF know this...so I am WAITING for a PACKET...each day until three...Flying Moose(raging bull)
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Post by Catdaddy on Jun 18, 2007 5:13:34 GMT -5
Lew / Swing, IMO as well, the timing of all this is interesting to me. Here we are approaching the end of June and the end of the federal fiscal year. Hopefully we'll have something before 30 June. Again, JMHO. Later, Catdaddy
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Post by JoeRockss on Jun 18, 2007 5:55:02 GMT -5
By: Audi5 17 Jun 2007, 10:11 PM EDT Msg. 562354 of 562418 Jump to msg. # BhHollenegg, yes it's been quite a journey! I've always had faith in Urban and I'm quite familiar with Saskatchewan, as I consult for a number of oil companies with oil production in Sask. I have a feeling Urban got lucky in his quest for diamonds, etc.
By: bhollenegg 17 Jun 2007, 10:34 PM EDT Msg. 562366 of 562418 (This msg. is a reply to 562354 by Audi5.) Jump to msg. # Audi...I agree. I believe Bona fide Stockholders got lucky as well. It has been quite a journey.
All the best, BHollenegg
By: Audi5 17 Jun 2007, 09:42 PM EDT Msg. 562325 of 562418 Jump to msg. # Bhollenegg; You're one of the few posters I ever read on this board or PB86. What do you expect to occur in the "not too distant" future? P.S. Keep posting your thoughts/expectations.
By: bhollenegg 17 Jun 2007, 10:02 PM EDT Msg. 562349 of 562418 (This msg. is a reply to 562325 by Audi5.) Jump to msg. # Thank you Audi5...I expect we will receive some guidance next week. I am quite looking forward to some closure and information on the expected ROI. I feel we will be pleased with the ROI.
All the best Audi, BHollenegg
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Post by JoeRockss on Jun 18, 2007 5:55:20 GMT -5
By: jfarn 17 Jun 2007, 09:45 PM EDT Msg. 562329 of 562418 (This msg. is a reply to 562319 by jlecks.) Jump to msg. # Jleck's
After much probing on a variety of fronts and after involving some of the highest ranking officials in our Federal Govt. I am convinced of this: There is more than meets the eye with our Nevadan diamond play. IMO it is most difficult to carry out an exit plan for such an operation under the watchful eye of thousands some friend and a whole lot of foe.
I do believe we are in good hands and that our RIO will be well worth the thingy dance we have been through. CMKX shareholders have been used like some of the cheapest prom dates in history...At times I find it surprising/borderline troubling how so many could have been unknowingly involved/used as pawns to correct a systemic problem.
By: jay_adobe 17 Jun 2007, 09:49 PM EDT Msg. 562336 of 562418 (This msg. is a reply to 562329 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. # jfarn, Good words. Good words indeed. The surface looks calm, but there are rumblings underneath.
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Post by coachphilm on Jun 18, 2007 8:06:23 GMT -5
John,
There is one point about your post that I would have to disagree on. UC cant have all the real shares, why? If the company or UC is in talks with any entity ref the nss, he would have to hold the nss. UC or the company has been harmed, therefore the only ones that could negotiate a settlement on thier behalf. UC or the company doesnt have the right or authority to negotiate ANY kind of settlement for me or any other shareholder. Therefore I believe imo UC would hold the NSS and not the real shares. Just my opinion.
Coach
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Post by eastcoastswing on Jun 18, 2007 9:32:03 GMT -5
I seriously thought I would be planning my retirement over the weekend. What are we waiting for now? What outcome? Is there a July 2nd court date?
This is just really bizarre that we know just about as much as we did before KW took over.
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 18, 2007 9:38:07 GMT -5
By: jay_adobe 18 Jun 2007, 10:27 AM EDT Msg. 562494 of 562497 (This msg. is a reply to 562492 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. # The beauty of this particular portion of the situation is the it could easily go either way; and either way, both parties prove the shortage and we all win in the end. Good thinking coach. imo
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 18, 2007 11:13:22 GMT -5
Ron2w Ace of Diamonds *****
Melvin to make announcement at 10PM EDT
Says he'll be doing it in Paltalk and that it's very very important.
That's all he was willing to say at this time.
(But beware folks, people are now saying that it may have nothing to do with CMKX!)
shoelessjoe Ace of Diamonds ***** Re: Melvin to make "major" announcement 10PM EDT « Reply #10 on Today at 11:41am »
for those who do not recall or never knew,melvin is the former investment relations director of cmkm diamonds. inc.
Melvin is a resident who lives in Sask. Close to what is going on in the mining industry.
Melvin has just taken on the position of investment relations of a company called golden Arch. I personally know nothing about this new company.
I happened to be in the pal talk room when Melvin gave his announcement of tonight's plan. ( I was disappointed in the way some of the people typing in the scroll acted after he left. Very spooky)
It was also Melvin who said he had a conversation with his very good friend and that his very good friend was going to speak to the share holders of cmkm diamonds inc,very soon.(some feel he was referring to Urban casavant being this very good friend)
Being that Melvin is no longer officially tied to cmkm diamonds,anything that he might have found out after his dismissal would not be considered inside information and therefore legal to share with anyone he chose. jmho
So in closing,I see this 8pm sask time statement being made as a positive thing unrelated to his wife's health,golden arch or the crop of potatoes expected for this year.
I look forward to hearing what is said tonight,but I am sure whatever it is that is shared will meet with the same varied response from those attending as I have seen in the past.
Good luck and God bless us all
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