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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 2, 2007 16:05:18 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
By: klonopin2mg 01 Jul 2007, 10:10 PM EDT Msg. 569796 of 569913 (This msg. is a reply to 569750 by 07isback.) Jump to msg. # 07',
whatever happens here, we're always good to go! everyone can only go by what they believe based on facts as presented and interpreted.
i do believe strongly in mahue, glenn, and hundreds of others watching etc......UC, while no one can agree......NO WAY HE COULD 'HOODWINK" the above....not possible imo.
i'm neither pro or con UC! but it was his claims that brought me in along with some connections in canada and TX.
and just for the RECORD...i'm not counting on anything, but last i heard........i simply EXPECT a ROI and EXPECT more of the "trash" to be taken out...and keep trimming those friggin "hedges" that have CLEARLY fleeced our people.
as for justice moving fast.....my traffic ticket has taken over six months and has been pushed back for another year.......the wheels of justice DO NOT MOVE from seven boxes with your worst nightmare to a suit in just five days. doesn't happen here where i live. AMERICA.JMO, it's for "PUBLIC VIEW" just like the cert pull.
remember, just my opinion..so it's not horseschit...just one man's opinion. good night bud......hope to meet some day...but i won't say soon...just a.s.a.p. Later!
By: _nathanial 01 Jul 2007, 10:24 PM EDT Msg. 569815 of 569913 (This msg. is a reply to 569796 by klonopin2mg.) Jump to msg. # klon...have to ask but is this ROI a positive, negative, or breakeven number? TIA. I beleive all three would be possible.
By: klonopin2mg 01 Jul 2007, 10:41 PM EDT Msg. 569844 of 569913 (This msg. is a reply to 569815 by _nathanial.) Jump to msg. # nathanial', my last information was all the way back to nov 2006, and unless i get a retraction....i have no reason to believe anything other than a very positive ROI. and believe me i try to get a retraction every week. i will not stop trying and it just makes sense.
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 2, 2007 16:05:52 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01247&read=24059By: bhollenegg 02 Jul 2007, 10:29 AM EDT Msg. 24059 of 24062 (This msg. is a reply to 24049 by jabberjaw521.) Jump to msg. # GM Jabberjaw521, Sorry, I did not see your question. Good question... Ask yourself if this makes sense... 1. CEO West is left with $558 and a position. 2. Donald Stoecklein has the certificate for the 45 million Entourage Shares. 3. Certain People can't locate Urban. 4. Robert Maheu, associated with Global Intelligence, is not mentioned or used to contact Urban. 5. Naked Short problem is not publicly being addressed anymore but behind the scenes being dressed to skirt the issue so not to attract attention. 6. Why the attention on Urban is okay but not on the ROI, actual share structure, NSS Count, Core sample results. 7. How can a lawsuit of this magnitude with this much detail be put together in a short period while the information from updates and PRs leave stockholders with even more questions, doubt, and confusion. Read Kevin's messages when he posted under the alias Kevin777. Does this look like the same person providing information? I could go on and on...but just these 7 items indicate either two scenarios ... Either you are in or you are out. Bottom line...I always believed, if you think you have CMKX figured out, then it shows how little you know about CMKX. Bob Maheu's Designer Scenes, each outfit is a one of a kind...expensive to buy, not for short use, but good for the long run. Take care Joseph, BHollenegg
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 2, 2007 16:06:22 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) Stocklein Letter from 21 Jun 2006 to BF « Thread Started on Today at 9:23am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Pursuant to our conversations and as a recommendation of the Task Force it is my understanding management has agreed to interplead the 45 million share Entourage certificate, which is being held for the distribution to the CMKM stockholders. We have agreed, based upon review by outside counsel, the best method for such distribution is to attempt to obtain Federal court approval of the distribution." www.cmkxunplugged.com/cmkx/stoeckleinletter.pdfQuestion: Is this why he hasnt released the cert? "In light of the resources which were made available to you for purposes of establishing the bona fide stockholders of CMKM, you and staff have done a remarkable job. Mr. Maheu and I appreciate the hard work. We are hopeful that the work product which you generated will provide the basis for an orderly and fair distribution of the assets of CMKM. From the time of Mr. Maheu's resignation in October of 2005 and waiver of all compensation due from CMKM, our resignation as counsel, and the subsequent contract with Entourage, Mr. Maheu and I have attempted to assist in facilitating the orderly distribution of assets of CMKM. Since the Task Force, by design, was set up for one intended purpose, the establishment of the distribution list and the subsequent distribution of the assists of CMKM, we believe the Task Force has carried the ball as far as possible, without incurring significant, non-compensation obligations or liability. CMKM management must now take our recommendation to the next step."http://www.cmkxunplugged.com/cmkx/stoeckleinletter.pdf Question: Why didnt UC finish this task? Observation: It also sounds like a 'kudo's" to BF...Looks like Bill did do something and it was never finished by then management of CMKX... JMO for the day... greenman1515 DIAMOND DIGGER millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1183386190
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 2, 2007 16:06:57 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
No Sting, imo « Thread Started on Yesterday at 10:41pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry, I was mistaken. It was just a “short” visit.
Bob Maheu stopped by from the Citi and surprised Urban. An Xtremely pleased Urban extended his hospitality and asked “Would you like a chair man?” Bob Maheu responded “Thank you Urban, I don‘t want you to go through any trouble… please set your asset down…relax, I am here for a Short visit…I normally get easily board. I guess it is because of my past adVentures. ”
Bob noticed Urban’s concerned expression, “Urban, what’s on your mine?” Urban explained he has some unwanted company over for a Short visit. “They must think I am full of energy …they are blatantly taking everything that I have. ..it’s been a Long hassle…”. Maheu assured Urban, “Don’t worry, I have some special friends who are willing to help me out whenever necessary.…let’s see…DOJ, FBI, Nevada Strike Force, SEC, and FEDs. Don’t worry about accommodating all my friends…I will take care of the first four, you can take the fifth….by the way Urban, I want you to look around and take full stock of what you have because when I get through, this place will have a great atmosphere. Take a trip, no need to say anything…I am sure you will be pleased with the return of what is rightfully yours”
How can anybody imagine this was a sting? It was clearly justice Short visit, ‘Maheu Style’.
Humbled, BHollenegg
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 2, 2007 16:07:30 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) Those who are standing last will prosper the most. « Thread Started on Yesterday at 7:57am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stress, confusion, misinformation, bouncing balls, rumors and plain ol' worn down from waiting for the big news. When you realize that their is enough signs out there with all the DD that many have brought to the table, you will understand this is truly a masterpiece in the making, we have let the enemy wear us down with bashers and the justice system that allows the bad guys to continue to run through open cracks in our legal system, but I don't believe that the length of this journey isn't totally do to our poor justice system, it's about everyone having to play their role in the massive undertaking of not letting this get out in the public eye and damage our financial and economical backbone. Yes even BF and KW have their role, I truly feel sorry for them having to sit and hear many bash their role, (I'm sure they will be paid well for their part). I'm not in the know and I don't have anyone telling me any info, I just trust in my own DD and the DD of many brilliant posters on this and other sites. I don't know time frames and I don't have any clue of how much we will be compensated, but I will tell you this, I believe we are part of history in the making and will be a group that will be bonded for life and our grandchildrens children will be able to tell their friends of the great part of history their great grandparents were part of and that they are wealthy for it. Trust in the DD that has been put on the sites by the many great posters, just extract the facts and you should have all you need to believe we are about to see the lid blow off this thing. No one should be able to convince you that Urban is a crook, it's not that they can't find him, he will surface when they need him to. One day those who have bashed this man will hand their head with embarrassment and shame. For those who have stuck by this man's side I'm sure Urban is grateful. I'm personally grateful to him for being a honest, caring man who allowed me to be part of this journey. Wishing you all a great Fourth of July!!! deltadon30228 Diamond Hunter cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1183298254
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 2, 2007 16:07:51 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
By: notagolfer0 02 Jul 2007, 10:47 AM EDT Msg. 24064 of 24066 Jump to msg. # I was told that when the SEC did an investigation they did not publicly announce when it was over. We have to guess, lol, but......if they have been investigating UC/CMKX for how many years???, you better believe they would have had UC in court by now or on the books "if" that were their intention.
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 2, 2007 16:08:28 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) Re: Stocklein Letter from 21 Jun 2006 to BF « Reply #28 on Today at 12:14pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 9:23am, greenman1515 wrote:"Pursuant to our conversations and as a recommendation of the Task Force it is my understanding management has agreed to interplead the 45 million share Entourage certificate, which is being held for the distribution to the CMKM stockholders. We have agreed, based upon review by outside counsel, the best method for such distribution is to attempt to obtain Federal court approval of the distribution." www.cmkxunplugged.com/cmkx/stoeckleinletter.pdfQuestion: Is this why he hasnt released the cert? "In light of the resources which were made available to you for purposes of establishing the bona fide stockholders of CMKM, you and staff have done a remarkable job. Mr. Maheu and I appreciate the hard work. We are hopeful that the work product which you generated will provide the basis for an orderly and fair distribution of the assets of CMKM. From the time of Mr. Maheu's resignation in October of 2005 and waiver of all compensation due from CMKM, our resignation as counsel, and the subsequent contract with Entourage, Mr. Maheu and I have attempted to assist in facilitating the orderly distribution of assets of CMKM. Since the Task Force, by design, was set up for one intended purpose, the establishment of the distribution list and the subsequent distribution of the assists of CMKM, we believe the Task Force has carried the ball as far as possible, without incurring significant, non-compensation obligations or liability. CMKM management must now take our recommendation to the next step."http://www.cmkxunplugged.com/cmkx/stoeckleinletter.pdf Question: Why didnt UC finish this task? Observation: It also sounds like a 'kudo's" to BF...Looks like Bill did do something and it was never finished by then management of CMKX... JMO for the day... Hello Greenman, Urban probably didn't distribute ETGMF Shares for the same reason(s) CEO West didn't. This is not just about distribution of shares, but also any other available assets of CMKM. What other available assets are there, which would require the approval of a Federal Court? Why would you need Robert Maheu, Donald Stoecklein, Bill Frizzell, support personnel, and a Federal Court to distribute ETGMF Shares for a pink stock company? Companies distribute stock dividends all the time without the Federal Courts approval. The Task Force determined who the Bona Fide Stockholders are, therefore they know who the crooks are. Since they have been identified, they probably had to pay some sort of payment. What was the "work product" which Stoecklein conveyed to Bill "We are hopeful that the work product which you generated will provide the basis for an orderly and fair distribution of the assets of CMKM"? If it was just a list, then why not say list? Work product may be the NSS Count, the list of counterfeiters, the list with amounts of what was paid to cover, and the list of Bona Fide Stockholders. Imo, if it was just shares, we would have been long gone before the Entourage deal was made. Take care, BHollenegg millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1183386190&page=2
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 2, 2007 16:08:58 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) Re: CMKM's Most Valuable Assets want to know ~~~ « Reply #10 on Today at 1:57pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Fellow CMKX's, this is only my second post, I have been giving the CMKX situation a lot of thought and here is what I came up with ( 2.30 am Saturday morning!) On the one hand we have KW and the Taxas group ( as they have been referred to) stating that there is no trust, no money and for us to not listen to the Acca's of this world. On the other hand we have Acca, Jay adobe and a few others telling us everything is ok. Acca in particular has stressed several points ( some for quite some time now), those are, its very important that this shareholder group stay together, that there is a trust fund, that initial payout will be between 23 and 77 cents per share, and that there will be multiple payouts ( he wrestled with this one denying the term "several" but committing to the term "multiple", this I believe he had to do for a very good reason , which will follow.) My conclusion is that both sides are correct. We have been reffered to as the "bonafide" shareholder group by both parties from time to time however this is what I believe. I believe that we are not in fact bonafide shareholders, but that we are in fact bonafide holders of counterfeit shares. We have been scam'd, not by UC or the original insiders, (although I do believe there has been much hankey pankey by insiders in the early days) but by the whole financial trading system, including brokers, market makers, transfer agents, the DTCC, the Fed reserve and the US Government in the form of the SEC. The team of Mahue, Glenn, Stocklein etc have been able to use us to clean up the market, not just because of the huge NSS , but because of one unique situation. For the first time ever in the history of our trading system, some 40,000 people have been issued counterfeit shares by the entities that control ,or are supposed to police our system. It is this unique situation that sets CMKX aside from thousands of other companies that have been victims of large NSS'ing. We don't own a d**n thing. Not sure how much of this the Texas group are aware of, maybe some, maybe all, maybe none. I also believe that the "new" CMKX is an empty shell. There have been several things done with the company over the past couple of years that caused me to think that they could not be done legally without a majority shareholder vote approving these changes. However, I believe that UC and his family do in fact own, probably by far, but certainly a minimum of 51% of CMKX, and therefore these actions have indeed had the approval of the majority of the shareholder vote. I also believe Acca to be true, I believe that the importance of the shareholder group staying together was to allow the "team" to negotiate an out of court class action setttlement with all the major players ( that's why it has been so long and complicated) and at the same time use this unique situation of massive NSS combined with large volume of issued conterfeit shares, as the hammer to make all the players sit up, take notice, and start the clean up of the whole fraudulent trading system. Accas claim of multiple payout will, I believe actually be a two part play. Part one, the 23-77 cents is for damages that we have incurred. The second payment will be funds to allow us to buy back in to the conglomerate that has been formed and who now hold the mining rights to the million plus acres of property in Canada. Not sure if we will have an option to take the cash with the second option and not buy in, or if that part of the fund is only if we elect to option the buyin clause, this we will see when we get closure, hopefully by the middle of next week. So, there you have it, of course ,all the forgoing is IMHO and you can put this in the FWIW colunm. Best regards to all, LEO. millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1183345911
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 2, 2007 19:48:20 GMT -5
By: my69z 02 Jul 2007, 07:55 PM EDT Msg. 570176 of 570182 Jump to msg. # ....Stoecklein & "The Cert"....
Off the bat,,,,the cert's being held by him because that's what the AGREEMENT said would be done until distribution....and so far CMKX has only said they'll be taking a different route of i.d.'n the shareholders.
And lets see,,,,, Stoecklein has our cert ......Michael E. Kulwin is representing Mahue against Hurd.
From a 2002 unrelated suit,,,
" The suit was filed later that same day in U.S. District Court in Nevada. Lead attorney for the shareholders is San Diego-based Stoecklein Law Group, with Las Vegas-based Michael E. Kulwin as liaison counsel.
Yep,,,,looks like another coincidense.....just like the attorney suin Urban is a protogy of the same law firm Urban's personal attorney is from.
lol
Chris
By: jay_adobe 02 Jul 2007, 08:37 PM EDT Msg. 570187 of 570319 (This msg. is a reply to 570176 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # Chris, There are no coincidences now.
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 3, 2007 8:52:56 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 02 Jul 2007, 08:30 PM EDT Msg. 570185 of 570319 Jump to msg. # Regarding any Roddy update at 10pm; IMHO as long as this update is aside and separate from any ACCADACCA update shareholders will probably be fine with it. Many Shareholders are waiting on the news that was expected by ACCA, and that time is nearing. Tic, Toc, Tic, Toc. That news promises closure by 7/04/07.
BUT WORDED DIFFERENTLY ;
"BUYOUT SETTLEMENT"
"HERE'S WHAT WE'RE OFFERING YOU"
"CLOSURE"
"RETURN ON INVESTMENT"
EOM
pistos Diamond Finder **
Re: roddy has a big announcement..10 pm est « Reply #6 on Today at 1:24am »
he showed up...if i understood roddy right...the big news was that the hurd case was dropped/vacated...he believes maheu is in control...then other stuff he talked about was about us shareholders, even if we're from different boards, that we should unite...then he talked about coincidences (similarities) between pres. lincoln and pres. kennedy...regarding cmkx, no dates were given and no amounts but he was certain that we will be compensated when everything's done...they are still verifying if there is indeed packages for us shareholders.
for others who were in the room when roddy spoke, feel free to add or correct the above.
pistos
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Post by eastcoastswing on Jul 3, 2007 8:54:20 GMT -5
Will be interesting how ACCA gets out of this one for those that care..Tic Toc is right!!!
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 3, 2007 8:56:56 GMT -5
Who is roddy?
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Post by eastcoastswing on Jul 3, 2007 9:04:09 GMT -5
ACCA's best friend probably
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Post by tec1958 on Jul 3, 2007 9:31:50 GMT -5
Roddy is one of the original gurus He can preach like the best small town baptist preacher you ever heard he is an acca lover and ines supporter but mostly he knows everything so they just help him spread the word If you never heard him on a tear - you missed out on life LOL
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Post by cyrano700 on Jul 3, 2007 12:15:56 GMT -5
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