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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:04:24 GMT -5
By: phatboy1988 16 Jun 2008, 12:10 PM EDT Msg. 732519 of 732545 Jump to msg. # SSDD in CMKXLAND. Come on disgorgements. Astonishing way to get our money back eh?
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:04:58 GMT -5
By: phatboy1988 16 Jun 2008, 12:09 PM EDT Msg. 732518 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732354 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # TYLER, T-3 settlement. You're still looking for shareholders? WTF?
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:06:05 GMT -5
By: notill 16 Jun 2008, 12:10 PM EDT Msg. 732520 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732509 by leowanta.) Jump to msg. # leo, so sue'em.
By: leowanta 16 Jun 2008, 12:13 PM EDT Msg. 732522 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732520 by notill.) Jump to msg. # notill...not me...the REGULATOR, the SEC will do it, they are mandated to protect the shareholders.....the company is walking a fine line...i expect payout directly.
leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:07:35 GMT -5
By: leowanta 16 Jun 2008, 12:23 PM EDT Msg. 732525 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732524 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # Bill Fizzell is a HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST, because he has a vested interest in the outcome....HE IS A SHAREHOLDER....
in no way legally, should Bill Frizzell be a part of any decision making....PERIOD. Understand, that is why Donald Stoecklein and Bob Maheu are calling the shots here...they are NOT SHAREHOLDERS.
leowanta
By: leowanta 16 Jun 2008, 12:26 PM EDT Msg. 732527 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732525 by leowanta.) Jump to msg. # Kevin West is in the same boat as Frizzell...HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST....in no way should they be in any way attached/connected to our trust/w interest.
leowanta
By: gusjarvis 16 Jun 2008, 01:13 PM EDT Msg. 732533 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732524 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # leo bill is only in conflict of interest if the story he is giving at the end is totally right and the good stuff he did is not wrapped in nda's and we are just fine because of his past amazing work. Remember he is using a lawyer from urban's own law firm that handed over the boxes to go "after" urban, ya right. Now that would be the biggest conflict of interest if it wasn't for bill working with urban and words from that same group that urban may have to take the fall. With all the evidence and roling of hackman walters and others it is said urban spent too much money that is it. The og said right to the end urban was behind us and they definitely made sure along the way trust me, john said he watched the boards everyday, it was his friends putting out the warnings, they knew everything or they need to be on the other side of the suit. This is the stuff they want us to forget, the truth: "We need for all shareholders to rally here! The extortionists will not have to pay capital gains taxes on hundreds of millions of dollars that they have swindled if this company does not survive. We need for CMKX to make it for more than one reason, not just ourselves.
One last thought. I get numerous e-mails every day asking me if I thought there is anything left here for us shareholders. If we thought there was nothing to gain, we would have already stepped away and let you all know the facts. We believe the “goods” are there. We know we have a huge naked short (835 billion shares, including cert holders, and NOBO lists, and with just 20% of street shares faxed in, leaving 80% not even reporting! This does not begin to mention those who are not included from other countries.) These two things alone can be our winning combination."
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:09:36 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 16 Jun 2008, 01:16 PM EDT Msg. 732536 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732524 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # the most amazing summary ever of facts from john remember these are facts they got after hackman and walters roled, facts after colombo their thing, after john read the boards everyday and read all the crap about urban, after they investigated this to death and knew we were hanging on every word!
"Let me give all of you a summary of where we are in this CMKX saga.
Several years ago, some seriously evil people took advantage of Urban Cassavant. Evidently, UC bought a dirty shell when he formed CMKI. That means there was very fine print, which would cause him many problems in the future: Problems that forced him to pay extortionists along the way, i.e. a dilution agreement and toxic financing. We feel, and hopefully will not be proved wrong, that UC is not the mastermind who diluted this stock. We believe it was done to keep up with the agreements in the contract. We assume UC put the claims in the 025 company for the purpose of keeping them safe. We do not think UC did this to keep them from the shareholders. Bill and I are in the process of investigating the extortionists. We think they deserve to pay for what they have done. They are present in dozens of other companies, and are doing the same thing to them. Their day is almost over!! We believe that once they are out of the way, UC will then be able to do the right thing and do whatever he must to give his shareholders their due."
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:10:37 GMT -5
By: pelicanbrief114 16 Jun 2008, 01:42 PM EDT Msg. 732538 of 732545 Jump to msg. # NEVER Doubt that a Small Group of "Committed People" can Change the world!! Indeed it IS the Only thing that Ever Has!! If Everyone Cared!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLOitzoK0eU Stand Tall and Be Proud!! Protect and Govern Thyself!! Got Gold/$ilver/Hard A$$et$? Got CMKX? :-) Have a Wonderful and Peaceful Week!!!! 4ND
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:12:26 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 16 Jun 2008, 12:16 PM EDT Msg. 732524 of 732545 Jump to msg. # AGAIN THE GREATEST CMKX POST EVER, From John Martin on 32 « Thread Started on Sept 3, 2005, 5:23pm » I have not commented on things for a long time. I think it is time to do so.
I must confess that Bill and I have had a difficult time continuing to work on this case with the lack of support from some shareholders. There are those, who are arm chair quarterbacks who think they have all the answers. (You all seem to have no trust in anyone.) There are those of you who are so caught up in UC, that you can’t see what has happened (I know, because I was there); and then there are those who see blood so red, that you are willing to file a suit at any cost for revenge.
I don’t want to forget to acknowledge the truly supportive group of the hundreds of shareholders that understand what they have in Bill Frizzell. These individuals have donated incredible amounts of time and money. In addition, many have actually taken the time to send us encouraging e-mails and cards. They have no idea how encouraging their words and gestures mean to us.
Bill Frizzell is walking a very fine line. He has to deal with some of the most selfish individuals I think I have ever encountered. He has to deal with a company that has done a lot of things wrong, HOWEVER, may have the goods. He has to deal with the SEC; he has a law license to protect; and he has to work for 5,000-6,000 shareholders who deserve to receive their due. He has to juggle information in a way that does not completely destroy the company in which we all have believed; and he has to know what to tell his clients without informing the enemy. On top of all this, he has to deal with little funding. Folks, we are spending most of our time attempting to convince people we are doing the right thing! I know you cannot see it, but Bill is spending 10-12 hours per day on this, and we are at a junction that could make or break our efforts to succeed for all of us.
Now, allow me to set some things straight. There is a concerted effort to destroy this group’s unity. Bill Frizzell has never done anything to cause anyone to doubt his word or his character. If he says there will be no class action suit, he means it! In addition, he is not going to give the information to another attorney to do so for him. If Bill says that when he files a lawsuit with a few plaintiffs for reasons that are evident, and says that all shareholders will benefit if there is a settlement, then that is the case! PERIOD! How many times do we need to state things to be believed?? Do some of you actually believe we have staged a set up to take advantage of people that have been hurt like we all have? Do you really think that? Those of you who have made comments along these lines should be ashamed of yourselves. Oh, and let me say one more thing. The Owners Group Inc was formed to attempt to prevent the scamming of innocent investors ever again - NOT because Bill and I want to line our pockets. For those of you who understand public companies, no one gets rich going public if it is done so legally and ethically - at least not until after many years of hard work! I have been literally sick to my stomach over the stench from the rotting souls from the fraudulent crooks that steal from unsuspecting shareholders all over this country. I guess I was naive as to what actually was going on out there in our markets, but some of the most gosh awful things happen out there every day, and I plan on standing up and making a difference!
I watch the boards every day, and have come to the conclusion that some people are just lonely and downright mean. They have nothing better to do than cast personal doubt on us so that others will jump on board with them. I do not think they are bashers, I just think they are people who enjoy making others think the same way they do: Misery loves company.
I know it is hard to believe, but there are some people in this world who do things for others not intending to reap reward. I know it is difficult to understand why anyone would work at least 10 hours a day and risk his Law Firm and his family for people he does not even know!
Let me tell you why Bill is such a person… because we have calls almost daily from those who fear they have lost everything. Widows who have no one to rely on who have dumped all their money into this company; people with cancer who are trying to make one last effort at supplying income for their family before they die; seasoned investors who have in excess of a million dollars at risk. The stories go on and on and on. We are almost in tears some days with the stories, as well as the cries for help.
Let me give all of you a summary of where we are in this CMKX saga.
Several years ago, some seriously evil people took advantage of Urban Cassavant. Evidently, UC bought a dirty shell when he formed CMKI. That means there was very fine print, which would cause him many problems in the future: Problems that forced him to pay extortionists along the way, i.e. a dilution agreement and toxic financing. We feel, and hopefully will not be proved wrong, that UC is not the mastermind who diluted this stock. We believe it was done to keep up with the agreements in the contract. We assume UC put the claims in the 025 company for the purpose of keeping them safe. We do not think UC did this to keep them from the shareholders. Bill and I are in the process of investigating the extortionists. We think they deserve to pay for what they have done. They are present in dozens of other companies, and are doing the same thing to them. Their day is almost over!! We believe that once they are out of the way, UC will then be able to do the right thing and do whatever he must to give his shareholders their due.
Bill and I want very badly for all shareholders to be paid for their investment. We are not interested in hurting that situation in any way. Bill is not interested in long-term litigation in any way. He is not looking for job security. He is not searching for a way to make a fortune here. He is looking for a way to help all of us innocent shareholders who have been stolen from. There is no underlying reason for what he has done, or is doing, other than justice!
We need for all shareholders to rally here! The extortionists will not have to pay capital gains taxes on hundreds of millions of dollars that they have swindled if this company does not survive. We need for CMKX to make it for more than one reason, not just ourselves.
One last thought. I get numerous e-mails every day asking me if I thought there is anything left here for us shareholders. If we thought there was nothing to gain, we would have already stepped away and let you all know the facts. We believe the “goods” are there. We know we have a huge naked short (835 billion shares, including cert holders, and NOBO lists, and with just 20% of street shares faxed in, leaving 80% not even reporting! This does not begin to mention those who are not included from other countries.) These two things alone can be our winning combination.
CMKX Shareholders, it is time to UNITE!
As Bill would say, “ONWARD”
John
By: rosencrantz2010 16 Jun 2008, 02:02 PM EDT Msg. 732545 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732524 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gus, that is very encouraging except for the fact that in another three months that letter from John will be three years old, and the fact that John and Kevin and Bill are now telling us the opposite story.
three years, gus. d*mn, that's getting to be a long time, especially when John told us in that letter that NOW was the time to pull together in order to get things done. well, we pulled together and here we sit three years later. i hope John doesn't tell us to pull together one more time! yikes, another three years! lol
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:33:26 GMT -5
mega15 Diamond Finder Re: gossip 6/15/08 « Reply #16 Today at 9:11am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- well... if a window is open for us to be paid from June 16-19... then maybe we will... hope so! Where is the window open for payment? Just want to make sure that no one runs up/over/up to it and shuts it if it gets drafty and all. Just a thought. You know.. Tia, Mega/ >:(il tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5307
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:46:37 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:48:11 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 16 Jun 2008, 02:02 PM EDT Msg. 732545 of 732545 (This msg. is a reply to 732524 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gus, that is very encouraging except for the fact that in another three months that letter from John will be three years old, and the fact that John and Kevin and Bill are now telling us the opposite story.
three years, gus. d*mn, that's getting to be a long time, especially when John told us in that letter that NOW was the time to pull together in order to get things done. well, we pulled together and here we sit three years later. i hope John doesn't tell us to pull together one more time! yikes, another three years! lol
By: gusjarvis 16 Jun 2008, 02:27 PM EDT Msg. 732549 of 732558 (This msg. is a reply to 732545 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen you and I and other think wrong timelines oquinn has been working at this for seven or eight years, this is the biggest classaction in history that could melt the markets. Jcline said they fixed or are fixing this and know the problem, they will do it or have done it without melting the markets.
Every word in that letter from john was right on the money, every word, backed up by endless dd. They didn't make any of their statements without absolute proof given the magnitude of the situation and given they know we are watching.
They have told you already there is a new cmkx and old one, the old one won't give back the info, they just don't have to, it is sealed, and it is good for us. The sec said it was in our best interest not to file, our best interest my friend. Hang in there, it will get good, the og did their jobs, and their toughest job is lying to you everyday, but necessary in their world, and for the operation.
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:49:18 GMT -5
By: lou60447 16 Jun 2008, 02:40 PM EDT Msg. 732555 of 732560 Jump to msg. # Thanks to those who do not have me on ignore. I appreciate a response no matter if positive or negative. But I get on the board and here is good old gusjarvis reprinting that ancient John martin letter. That letter holds no legal or truthful language. Three year old posts might as well be written on the wind. Anyone who relies on anything written or posted on this board as fact is either naive or stupid! Yet people still hang on every word of a ralph, jay adobe or leowanta. I remember when people hung on every word of a streling. Where did that go! Do you remember when everyone was saying, "God bless you Sterling."
A lot of people on this board better condition themselves for the possibility that we may have been scammed by the very people we trusted. I for one am tired of , "don't worry, it is all going according to plan." Just what the hell is the plan? Is it for us all to die before this ends.
There was an old movie recently on TV called The Asphalt Jungle. It was about a lawyer who plotted to steal 1/2 million in precious gems. The police did not suspect him because he had such a sterling record. Does this sound anything like the players in our drama? People like RG, BM and DS. Sometimes when wise men get older they lose their wisdom. Either bad business deals, overspending or a pretty young thing compromises that wisdom. We all entered into this thing based on the reputation of these men. Maybe we were living in the past and their reputations were now in the future.
By: klonopin2mg 16 Jun 2008, 02:52 PM EDT Msg. 732563 of 732566 (This msg. is a reply to 732555 by lou60447.) Jump to msg. # lou,
"People like RG, BM and DS. Sometimes when wise men get older they lose their wisdom"
...perhaps some
i disagree, wise men may lose their health, unwise men may lose their wisdom; but to think those three lost their wisdom at this time in their lives, in this "revoked pink penny stock" is just NOT LOGICAL!
i don't need to be reminded of BM's health and he is in my prayers.e
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:57:40 GMT -5
By: imsoweary 16 Jun 2008, 02:48 PM EDT Msg. 732560 of 732565 (This msg. is a reply to 732531 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gusjarvis, after all this time and after reading all the facts filed and posted, you STILL cling to any and every possible reason to deny what has happened to us all.
You can copy and paste every single statement made by anyone involved but it will not change a thing. It all comes down to following the cash. When one does so, it undeniably leads to John Edwards and Urban Casavant as the two main beneficiaries of a massive pump & dump scheme.
Kick, scream, wish it ain't so all you want. Nothing will ever change that fact. You are living in a delusional state of denial.
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 13:58:19 GMT -5
By: the_regulator 16 Jun 2008, 02:50 PM EDT Msg. 732561 of 732566 Jump to msg. # The SEC concluded that there was no naked short scam, but in fact Urban and his Cowboys perpetuated that lie while they unloaded unrestricted stock into the Market. Intersting reading: www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2008/comp20519.pdf
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 19:24:14 GMT -5
seagull Administrator Gossip Queen of CMKX Re: gossip 6/16/08 « Reply #3 Today at 1:21pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ines Hello Michael, What i think.. with my mind and my senses.. in regards to Acca is that things will be happening now. I dont get the sense he is just saying it.. Its very different for me now.. I think it will be coming out.. He also said in his last visit on saturday morning.. after i came to the room and typed ... " o its quiet ,, nothing going on.. " He came out under alias and on the mic said: " It will get very loud next week, and with more frequency" There is a recording of that session.. With that .. and all the conversations i had with him, I for myself ( nobody else has to believe it ) but I for myself have a sense and believe that we are at the end and things will come out. and things will come out even this week. Also that this week and next week could be finnality of it.. Dont know to what extent.. but finnality of secrecy... and situation as we are today. When i talk about extent.. i am thinking.. dont know if we will have money on hands.. but we could get all the news.. and the packets.. and info .. etc.. That is the message I get in my head.. from all the latest visits.. hints.. on the boards and personal conversations. That is what I am waiting on personaly for myself. ~~~~~~~~~~ And no i dont think he is just buying time this time, with nothing behind it. From all the analysis of his behaviour, things he says.. the hints.. hints about personal life.. shared with me ( nothing directly about cmkx but a reflection can definetely be drawn upon it.. ) I do believe this week and next or maybe just even this week ..is to change the situation as it is. Ok thats it. tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5315
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 16, 2008 19:24:42 GMT -5
snifferpup Re: I'ts Been A Pleasure (acca related posts) « Reply #2866 Today at 2:21pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission”) deems it appropriate that cease-and-desist proceedings be, and hereby are, instituted pursuant to Section 21C of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (“Exchange Act”), against Citigroup Inc. (“Citigroup,” “company,” or “Respondent”). www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2008/34-57970.pdf
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