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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 7, 2008 16:35:53 GMT -5
Welcome to PB29 arctan!! Glad to have ya aboard !! We have a great group here and glad you decided to join us !! Nice 1st post !!Single
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 16:37:43 GMT -5
By: aladin99 07 Sep 2008, 02:01 PM EDT Msg. 762101 of 762352 Jump to msg. # $$$$ from NSS??? HowTF NSS (brokers, bankers, hedgies) paid directly to UC and his family members as Elo claimed he saw? NSSellers are not dumb they don't want to pay twice when the system find out....their problem....
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 16:39:03 GMT -5
By: aladin99 07 Sep 2008, 02:08 PM EDT Msg. 762108 of 762352 (This msg. is a reply to 762097 by msdonnaharrison.) Jump to msg. # MsHarrion...in the near end you will see...ELO... nuff....pedro...chick...are from the same organization....anti-urban...anti-cmkx....helped NSS dump shares and turned around to attack the company...after...
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 16:53:04 GMT -5
By: snoopstock613 07 Sep 2008, 02:13 PM EDT Msg. 762113 of 762361 Jump to msg. # cmkxunplugged com/links html Here you will find why I have said to back up your computers and print several documents because they will be removed....If you check thru several of the documents that were stored here you will see they have been removed...Ask yourself WHY...Hmmm Do you have your documents printed and in a safe place. You never know when you will need them. ESalvato
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 16:53:51 GMT -5
By: leowanta 07 Sep 2008, 02:23 PM EDT Msg. 762130 of 762362 Jump to msg. # P.S....NOBODY IS GOING TO CANCEL SHARES, EXCEPT THE "FUND ADMINISTRATOR"..... NO DISTRICT COURT HAS JURISDICTION OVER THE NSS....ONLY THE SEC....THE COMPANY CANNOT CANCELL NSS... THEY HAVE TO BE PAID FOR, OR CANCELLED BY THE "SEC" APPOINTED FUND ADMINISTRATOR...
ALL FREE SHARES WILL BE CANCELLED ALL BULK CERTS HELD BY BORKERS/DEALERS/HEDGE FUNDS WILL BE CANCELLED NO CASAVANT WILL RECEIVE PAYMENT NO BASHERS WILL RECEIVE PAYMENT NO ELECTRONIC SHARES WILL RECEIVE PAYMENT NO TYLER TOGI HOLDER WILL RECEIVE PAYMENT...ALREADY PAID 6 MILLION BILL FRIZZELL HAS BEEN PAID.
CLOSURE IS THIS WEEK.
leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 16:56:56 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 07 Sep 2008, 02:18 PM EDT Msg. 762121 of 762364 (This msg. is a reply to 762109 by CHICPICK.) Jump to msg. # chicpick, yes, i agree with you about expecting another spike in the pps. in fact, i expected many. most pink sheets live for that. one of the things i found very weird about cmkx is that it never spiked a series of times. it really was just the one time, right about when they announced glenn and the first diamoniferous PR. after that it was the long slow slide back to sub .0001. amazing. wouldn't you think any good pump and dump would have exhibited the typical serial spiking over time exhibited by all pump and dumps?
i don't get why cmkx never showed that pattern?
why didn't urban work the system? he certainly had a good story to pump up the volume. plus, urban had all his workers in the fields pumping everyone up about the diamonds, gold, oil, etc on over 2 millions acres, a la sterling. but he wasted those assets. he could have easily made 5 - 10 times more from the pump and dump if he wanted to. i haven't quite figured it out, unless it wasn't a traditional pump and dump.
By: aladin99 07 Sep 2008, 02:52 PM EDT Msg. 762183 of 762363 (This msg. is a reply to 762121 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rose...CMKX does not fit in the so called...PUMP/DUMP category...
By: CHICPICK 07 Sep 2008, 04:04 PM EDT Msg. 762239 of 762369 (This msg. is a reply to 762121 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen, I'm certain that there would have been another pump if the revoke didn't show it's face.
By: rosencrantz2010 07 Sep 2008, 05:00 PM EDT Msg. 762324 of 762369 (This msg. is a reply to 762239 by CHICPICK.) Jump to msg. # chicpick, but hadn't they dumped all 800b prior to the revocation? this idea that urban just opened the flood gates and pushed all 800b shares at once on to the market never made much sense to me.
if the guy is suppose to be so smart he sure as heck would have been smart enough to know he could have made a killing selling those 800b shares a bit at a time at .001 a share with a series of good pumps rather than 800b all at once at an average of .0003. that's just plain stupid, and yet the guy is suppose to be smart. things just don't add up.
ask yourself, is he stupid or is he smart? if he's stupid then one dump of 800b at average of .0003 per share makes sense. if he's smart, that scenario doesn't compute. a smart guy would have played the market for all it's worth and he could have made a killing - 5 to 10 times more than he made, eeeeeeasy.
By: goliath_grouper 07 Sep 2008, 05:10 PM EDT Msg. 762330 of 762369 (This msg. is a reply to 762324 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen-they had issued 778 billion. Koch gave 75 billion back for some unknown reason, leaving 703 billion issued. Of that around 60 billion was still held by insiders, so the general public actually bought, or was given (Sterling, Cline, etc) around 643 billion.
They were selling them as fast as they could, but couldn't get enough volume to get rid of them all.
By: rosencrantz2010 07 Sep 2008, 05:23 PM EDT Msg. 762341 of 762368 (This msg. is a reply to 762330 by goliath_grouper.) Jump to msg. # goliath, okay. that sounds about right. but what doesn't make sense to me is why did they play it that way?
if you were in control of the enterprise and had the stock and the stories they had would you have dumped it all at once? i wouldn't.
i would have played the market over and over. what was the rush? why do it in 6 months, or 12 months or 18 months? why not take 5 years or ten years?
playing it out over a longer period of time would have allowed them to tell one fantastic story after another. the more stories they told the better. they could have kept racing and advertising and so on. it would have been great from a pump and dump perspective!
i still can't believe it. they had everything, from a P&D perspective. great story. huge investor base. and a growing legion of faithful invesotors that were telling their friends to invest. they could have kept this going for a long time.
so why did they screw up and force the issue with that SEC filing they made? they weren't required. that was stupis. no P&D company would talk to the SEC. why respond to anything legal? why have lawyers to begin with? why not simply play the market? they weren't required to report a d*mn thing! they could have pump and dumped for an eternity!
they basically threw away 700b shares. if we could go back in time they could have held those shares and sold them for ten times what they did, and will all that money they could have done anything they wanted, including buying out SHORE GOLD! they had so many small time investors putting money into the stock it would have allowed them to buy any other mining company in the FALC at that time,,,,, easy.
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 17:03:27 GMT -5
By: leowanta 07 Sep 2008, 05:16 PM EDT Msg. 762337 of 762366 Jump to msg. # not to worry SBG...Tyler is done..they have no jurisdiction to sue anyone, and especially the casavants (TEXAS CORPORATION ACT...BY OPERATION OF LAW, TYLER CANNOT SUE CAROLYN CASAVANT A CO-DIRECTOR OF NEVADA CMKM DIAMONDS, INC....END OF TYLER SOON! silverbulletgirl DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: CMKM Sues Casavant Family « Reply #68 Today at 7:02am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- irrevocable trust is the only significant asset protection device for avoiding frivolous lawsuits An irrevocable asset protection trust when combined with a Limited Liability Company is an asset protection fortress, short of a foreign asset protection trust. A foreign asset protection trust is the Rolls Royce of asset protection, the irrevocable trust with an LLC is the Cadillac. millionaires.proboards86.com/inde....ad=21885&page=4
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 17:22:03 GMT -5
luci Queen of Diamonds Re: The Buzz 9/5 and beyond... « Reply #12 Today at 1:02pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BHollenegg Re: While on my vacation... « Reply #33 Today at 1:10pm » Yesterday at 10:54am, stormgrey43 wrote: Without getting into too much detail, I will only say that I have been told that this was in fact a sting from the very start, moneys have been collected, and a distribution plan was being worked on for the shareholders. I was not made privy to amounts or dates, nor was my source. This was relayed to me over one month ago. I imagine that the task of organizing a distribution of this magitude is daunting to say the least. IMO, from what I have been told, this is the only thing we are waiting on. I do not have an opinion on where the company is heading or if it will ever trade again, though if I had my druthers - I would rather be offered a cash payment, so that I could run away from this company as fast as I can, and never look back. I think statements made from one or more attornies who have/had ties to the company are extremely interesting as is the nonshareholder website. I think banks collapsing all around us is also quite telling. I think Urban being a free man tells the biggest tale of all. Storm I agree Storm. I received the same info. I was also informed that this was a STING, the SEC is finished with their investigation and settled with CMKM, another entity has the funds, they are aware of the shareholders' plight, and that they are working to release the funds. I was informed that there is nothing I can do that will speed up the process. Another tidbit to share… This happened last week. I telephoned E*TRADE because they made a mistake on my account. The rep apologized and asked if he could assist me in any further matters. I asked him if he could check on CMKX on anything relating to a cash dividend or payment update. I explained about the cash dividend which four E*TRADE reps and one E*TRADE Broker confirmed from a 2005 internal memo. He said the last update was 2006 for a cash dividend and Entourage Shares. I asked him if the 2006 memo stated how much. He said he would have to read it first and asked me to hold on. He came back and said that I need to call 702-766-6328 to receive an update. I asked him again what did the 2006 update state. He did an about face and said they do not have any updates and for me to call the number he just gave me. The cover-up continues…this has gone on way too long. All the best, BHollenegg HJRS millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=21874
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 17:23:53 GMT -5
luci Queen of Diamonds Re: The Buzz 9/5 and beyond... « Reply #13 Today at 3:31pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: While on my vacation... « Reply #40 Today at 3:39pm » Today at 3:19pm, sherry1961 wrote: we want to think that the system won't fail but those in Enron and worldcom would tell you other wise. BHollenegg Good point Sherry. The market cannot afford another Enron publicity disaster. They can play all the games they want, but they cannot play for keeps. My understanding is that we will be taken care of financially. That is what "keeps" me positive about the CMKX outcome for Shareholders. Take care, BHollenegg millionaires.proboards86.com/inde....ay&thread=21874
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 21:07:27 GMT -5
Ric Executive Administrator Re: Texas Suit Filed « Reply #1 Yesterday at 12:34am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jarta Date: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:26:41 PM In reply to: nufced who wrote msg# 258401 Post # of 258424 nuffie, ... "Thats a seperate suit, filed in 07..ie:Urban" The question is not why Urban is not part of the Texas suit. The question is why the Texas suit was filed at all since there is room for many Roes and Does to be added to the Nevada suit. In other words, there already was a vehicle to sue these people that existed in Nevada. Why, then, Texas? I see Frizzell himself is the attorney for the plaintiffs in the Texas suit. That raises the possibility that the Nevada lawyer, Koch, wouldn't do it and there is no money to pay a Texas lawyer. In any event, the Texas defendants are all Canucks and they will surely ignore this filing - just as Edwards and Urban have done with the Nevada filing. I'm sorry for the stuckholders, but it sure looks like, as they say in Texas, another dry hole. ... eom Ric Executive Administrator Re: Texas Suit Filed « Reply #2 Yesterday at 12:35am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By the way, Jarta is an attorney Goodolboy Chief Administrator Re: Texas Suit Filed « Reply #3 Yesterday at 10:11am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yesterday at 12:35am, Ric wrote: There is very little doubt that the suit will be ignored, and there is certainly rational logic behind jarta's post. Having said that, I've been waiting for this particular suit to be filed for some time. Goodolboy Chief Administrator Re: Texas Suit Filed « Reply #5 Today at 10:35am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yesterday at 8:47pm, Ric wrote: Two schools of thought: 1) Texas law much more aggressive against this type of fraud than Nevada, thus the suit filed in Texas. Additionally, if Frizzell is producing the suits anyway, why involve another attorney increasing overall expense? 2) Tyler's out of money and had to file in Texas because it was cheaper to do so. Ric Executive Administrator Re: Texas Suit Filed « Reply #6 Today at 8:43pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The only thing that might bite them in the end, if the suits are ever taken serious, is the fact that CMKM is an illegal Texas Corporation since Nevada law requires that the shareholders are the only ones that can convert out. If someone was smart enough to think of it anyways. But of course being smart isn't a CMKX quality. Also can they really even legally file in Texas even if the corporate status wasn't qustionable? The crimes did occurs in Nevada where the company was incorporated at the time. It wouldn't be the first time Frizzell filed a lawsuit that wasn't even legal, lis pendens. cmkxclubhouse.proboards76.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2173
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 7, 2008 21:20:57 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 07 Sep 2008, 09:22 PM EDT Msg. 762420 of 762426 (This msg. is a reply to 762405 by msdonnaharrison.) Jump to msg. # msdonna, that is GREAT it's FORENSIC time. all of us have been waiting.
I want FORENSIC time. and i want it now, not three months from now.
i hope you understand.
the longer this takes the weaker your position become. i'm sure you understand.
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Post by ironman on Sept 7, 2008 21:40:33 GMT -5
I hope we do have closure this week...positive closure for the investors....I've been looking over the new Vettes and need one real bad....what do you think...is this my week to get one? By: leowanta 07 Sep 2008, 02:23 PM EDT Msg. 762130 of 762362 Jump to msg. # P.S....NOBODY IS GOING TO CANCEL SHARES, EXCEPT THE "FUND ADMINISTRATOR"..... NO DISTRICT COURT HAS JURISDICTION OVER THE NSS....ONLY THE SEC....THE COMPANY CANNOT CANCELL NSS... THEY HAVE TO BE PAID FOR, OR CANCELLED BY THE "SEC" APPOINTED FUND ADMINISTRATOR... ALL FREE SHARES WILL BE CANCELLED ALL BULK CERTS HELD BY BORKERS/DEALERS/HEDGE FUNDS WILL BE CANCELLED NO CASAVANT WILL RECEIVE PAYMENT NO BASHERS WILL RECEIVE PAYMENT NO ELECTRONIC SHARES WILL RECEIVE PAYMENT NO TYLER TOGI HOLDER WILL RECEIVE PAYMENT...ALREADY PAID 6 MILLION BILL FRIZZELL HAS BEEN PAID. CLOSURE IS THIS WEEK. leowanta
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Post by JoeRockss on Sept 8, 2008 17:05:08 GMT -5
By: huckfinnn 08 Sep 2008, 02:08 AM EDT Msg. 762436 of 762780 Jump to msg. # We've seen the paper called,waiting on world freak!!!.....At the races in Chicago Urban told my buddy “This will be the biggest paper call Ever” and ‘ “The world will freak out when they hear about 5 and 10 carat diamonds."
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)
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By: aladin99 08 Sep 2008, 12:07 PM EDT Msg. 762546 of 762778 (This msg. is a reply to 762436 by huckfinnn.) Jump to msg. # If UC said that honestly..... All bon fide holders will be all very happy when this sega ends......... - - - - - View Replies »
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Post by JoeRockss on Sept 8, 2008 17:08:03 GMT -5
By: aladin99 08 Sep 2008, 12:12 PM EDT Msg. 762549 of 762783 Jump to msg. # If there were huge payouts from brokers/DTC/bankers....I have to bet that the funds are in safest place...this money could never go directly to UC and his family members....The system does not work like that and brokers/DTC/bankers are not stoooooooooopid..........
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By: goliath_grouper 08 Sep 2008, 12:35 PM EDT Msg. 762562 of 762783 (This msg. is a reply to 762549 by aladin99.) Jump to msg. # Aladan-there are no payouts. There is no liability for any of those organizations to settle. I suppose only unlimited time will finally convince you of that. - - - - - View Replies
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Post by JoeRockss on Sept 8, 2008 17:09:26 GMT -5
By: smartmoneyknows 08 Sep 2008, 12:56 PM EDT Msg. 762567 of 762784 Jump to msg. # gr8hiker: Whoever is mandated to pay out the settlement money
UM..THAT WOULD BE "NOBODY MANDATED" TO PAY OUT ANYTHING..
BUT KEEP DREAMING YA DORK!!!!
THE ONLY ONES PAYING OUT ANYTHING ARE THE SAPS THAT DONATE TO THE PUMP AND DUMP SCAM ROOMS..
WONDER WHAT URBANS' TAKE IS FROM MONA AND INNES' ROOM RENT IS???
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