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Re: gossip 11/9/08
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Re: It's Been A Pleasure (Acca related posts)
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bbildman...
I note your questioning whether Acca has sources or not. Let me roll out Exhibit 1, a letter Kevin West sent to me back on September 3rd, as potential proof that Acca does in fact have sources. (Copied below, my original questions are highlighted in Yellow.)
Shortly after this email came to me, it was discovered that Kevin has two felony charges himself. So, it seems a bit disingenuous when he is critical of Acca, as he has his own past that he tried to hide.
Nevertheless, Kevin noted that Acca was working to protect Urban... which certainly indicates that Kevin and the Tyler Gaing believe Acca is connected and working to support members of the Old Team.
AIMO,
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Quote:From: Kevin M West [mailto:XXXXXXX@cmkmdiamondsinc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:44 AM
To: Gary XXXX
Subject: RE: ACCA
Hi Gary,
Answers to your questions:
Kevin:
You’ve asked us for your support and to believe in what you and Bill are doing on behalf of the CMKX Shareholders. In order to come the rest of the way, I really need you to answer this one series of questions:
I am sorry that you feel that either Bill or I have to answer questions like this to have your support….. Especially questions about someone that has done nothing but lie to all of the shareholders since day one. Bill and I along with the newly appointed Board of Directors and Advisory Committee (all of whom are shareholders just like yourself) will continue to work on behalf of the best interests of this Company and its shareholders with or without each individual shareholders’ support. I do not like to be so blunt in my answer, but this question requires such an answer.
• Who is the man who calls himself ACCA on Paltalk and the CMKX Boards.
Please see a partial view of the file we have on Roger James Stelma. I have included only a partial view of his background information as I do not wish to include information that identifies innocent family members and friends nor other information that would possibly intrude on other people’s privacy. I believe you can see by this partial background report that Mr. Stelma does not have the material possessions that he has claimed to have had. I remember a Pal Talk conversation from over two years ago where he claimed to have 2 brand new BMW’s outside but could not remember what models they were? Give me a break!!!! However, his background information shows no such possession nor does it show anything else that would lead anyone to believe he is what he claims to be. He is not even registered to vote!!!
• What is his role?
• Who is he working for/ protecting?
We believe that the most likely scenario for Mr. Stelma is as follows:
According to sworn testimony from depositions obtained by the Company, a former insider has intimated that ACCA was paid by Urban Casavant to do what he is doing. This insider also named several other posters that have been present on the forum known as Raging Bull. We believe that this information is very factual. This matches Mr. Stelma’s statement about being paid by the old insiders of the Company and perhaps is the first and only time he has told the truth to date.
If, in fact, Mr. Stelma is still being paid by Mr. Casavant to continue this charade on shareholders, then there is at least one very plausible explanation for it. Consider for a moment that Mr. Casavant is going to be indicted for the crimes that he has committed against this Company and its shareholders. This means that Mr. Casavant will eventually have to stand before a federal sentencing judge. That judge will most likely have a very wide range of sentencing guidelines that he can go by. These guidelines could range from a few years to very many years in differences.
If you were Mr. Casavant, would you want 500 shareholders showing up at your hearing and writing positive letters to the judge in your support?
All of this in a possible scenario will the judge will have pity on you and possibly lighten your sentence.
Or… would you rather have 500 angry shareholders showing up in court and writing letters to make sure the judge gives you the maximum sentence?!?!!
Not to mention that you do not know the faces of the 40,000+ shareholders and never know when you will run into them…… remembering they ALL know what you look like!
• Why haven’t you gone after him?
Bill and I have talked about this in numerous conversations and the answer is always the same. The Company will not spend time, effort and resources on someone that is a complete fraud and has nothing to offer the Company to help us move forward. We have numerous irons in the fire that are going to eventually come to fruition to help this Company move forward. Going after Mr. Stelma is a waste of time and would only further elevate his name in status to those that still feel he is a saint, although he is one that tells nothing but lies. Many shareholders have known me for a long time and it is not in my nature to call people names, but sometimes you just have to call it like it is. This man is nothing but a liar and a fraud… period!
Acca has claimed for years to be paid by the “Old Team”, and that he has spoken directly to Donald Stoecklein and Robert Maheu in the past. It appears he has been lying… but I’ve never understood why you don’t call him out with Facts, if not legal pursuit.
Mr. Stoecklein has clearly stated in two recent emails to shareholders that he has had no contact with anyone named Roger Stelma unless Mr. Stelma has called him in the past as just an ordinary shareholder. Bill has received correspondence in the past from Mr. Stoecklein and Mr. Maheu both denying that they even know of such a person.
I could go on but I am not going to waste anymore of my morning addressing this issue. I hope this clarifies our stance and the facts we have surrounding Mr. Stelma. You are free to make this reply public as long as you do so in its entirety. Questions like this or any follow up to this email will not be answered in future emails.
Sincerely,
Kevin
Kevin M. West
Chairman
CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
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Yesterday at 7:01pm, bbildman wrote:BHollenegg, how in the world do YOU know acca has ANY sources other than his own make-up say-so-ing so.
Your post is interesting but again, if we don't have a clue as to WHO -- or even IF there are any bona-fide sources, your statement (as if it were a fact) lacks reasonability.
Now if you choose to say, IN YOUR OPINION acca has sources connected to CMKX that KNOW what the TRUTH is, that's one story. But that leaves us again with heresay, innuendo, and d**n nothing to bank on.
Your claim of "Firsthand information from a professional involved with CMKX situation..."The SEC is finished with the investigation. The DTC has the funds for shareholders. .." leaves us with yet another acca-type statement of "trust me, I know" without any willingness to share with us WHO SAID THAT so that the folks here can look into it for veracity.
Your word is simply not enough anymore, nor is anyone's who sits outside the circle of those who KNOW.
Acca does not, imo
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