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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 18, 2008 12:52:39 GMT -5
By: nufced 18 Dec 2008, 12:28 PM EST Msg. 787709 of 787713 Jump to msg. # rosencrantz, maybe you should do some reading into cases, just to see the longetivity of some. Remember Edwards wife, Diana? Very small case compared to ours..only 3 people. Check the dates to read...... click link ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=787709By: nufced 18 Dec 2008, 12:33 PM EST Msg. 787710 of 787715 Jump to msg. # The Indictment by a grand jury finally arrived in 2004. The activities began in 1993!!!! The Indictment alleges that beginning in June 1993, DIANA LEE FLAHERTY and her now-deceased husband, Robert F. Flaherty, controlled and managed a Nevada corporation called Phoenix Metals U.S.A. II, Inc.(Phoenix Metals). MICHAEL GARDINER was a business associate of Robert and DIANA FLAHERTY and shareholder in Phoenix Metals.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 18, 2008 14:46:28 GMT -5
By: zahnj 18 Dec 2008, 01:11 PM EST Msg. 787719 of 787747 (This msg. is a reply to 787706 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. #
I don't think the grand jury I heard about is going after edwards. They're telling the people they talk to that they're investigating the old company. But then they're asking questions about faulk and kevin.
As far as Edwards maybe he made a deal.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 18, 2008 14:51:08 GMT -5
IceCrush Mod Squad Re: SEC Commission v. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. et al « Reply #40 Today at 9:42am »
Charges against Urban would not occur as he was 'forced' to play along. JMHO And if he was 'forced' as indicated, it is most likely that he has been behind the scenes assisting the clean-up; thus he paid for the cert pull/brought in the right people; etc. If he had been threatened, which this document supports, his best move would have been to step down and put someone else in place.
Bill/Kevin would not really know what is going on so therefore could not tell us much of anything except mis-directed info that they are dealing with..thus no update for this document on their website. They want it to be assumed that know nothing. JMHO
After all is said and done, The TA is most likely to take the fall. There will be payment/fines/disbursements etc, but it will all be found on SEC sites and not on company sites. These guys will pay and never trade again (we hope) The bigger fish will pay, but where will the money come from? Who will get it and when? The SEC will have appeared to have done it's job, the NSS position and weakness within the corrupt system will not hit the headlines and Cox's/SEC reputation will be untarnished publically.
Hidden justice?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 18, 2008 15:06:22 GMT -5
Just a reminder !!Jfarn's phone conference with David Kotz is tomorrow 12/19/08 .........Telephone Conference
Good Afternoon,
I would like to apologize for the delay. I spoke with David and he asked me to set up a telephone meeting with you. Are you available December 19, 2008 around 10:00 a.m. or 11:00 a.m.? Let me know what time works best for you.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 18, 2008 17:30:14 GMT -5
From the Millionaire board..... sictransitgloria DIAMOND DIGGER Re: SEC Commission v. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. et al « Reply #37 Today at 9:22am »
Well, this document tells us about 50% of the story, so at least we're half way to the truth. People are wondering why Roger Glenn isn't mentioned. Here's my guess: this document states that Urban did not have knowledge of all of Edwards' stock sales and that he was under pressure from Edwards. I think Urban got Roger Glenn to issue opinion letters for more shares in order to keep Edwards from basically selling the majority share of the company right out from under Urban. I think Urban was afraid that Edwards was basically stealing the company from him, so he got Glenn to creat more shares to ensure that Urban (and perhaps those he trusted) maintained control of the company. The document clearly states that as of May 2005, Edwards had sold 32% of the outstanding shares. That means there were close to 500 billion shares that Edwards didn't sell, and Roger Glenn wrote an opinion letter for at least 300 billion of those shares.
The reason RG isn't mentioned in this document is because this one is about JE. Will RG ever come under scrutiny? Good question. This document seems to say that ALL of the 622 billion shares were not registered and issued properly, and that would include Roger's shares.
As for the penalties: even if they conclude that the fine should be 569 x $26.4 million, that money is due from JE, not the SEC. It's one of those deals where the person never pays any money, because they don't have any money left. So, I hold out almost no hope that any of us shareholders will ever see a cent from JE.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 18, 2008 17:36:14 GMT -5
By: rodgranite 18 Dec 2008, 03:06 PM EST Msg. 787749 of 787814 (This msg. is a reply to 787659 by goodolboy27.) Jump to msg. #
It's ok...
to dream the dream. It will all be ok soon. I have my new ride all picked out. Just waiting for the funds release to go pick it up.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 18, 2008 17:37:59 GMT -5
By: leowanta 18 Dec 2008, 03:13 PM EST Msg. 787752 of 787814 (This msg. is a reply to 787065 by rodgranite.) Jump to msg. #
rodgranite...i can tell right away, you are a non-cert holder of electronic shares.....so sad for you, you are not bonafide...you are not going to get paid because you failed to honor the terms of the agreement by the taskforce....PULL CERTIFICATES....
so, much for your sources....the DTCC is not obligated to pay electronic shares, because you failed to follow directions....you get the opportunity to fight over it with your broker, the DTCC doesn't have to pay your broker for naked shorting...you hold no leverage..your borker could be in deep shee shee if he trys to get you paid for selling unregistered shares of stock...i doubt seriously you will be paid for your electronic shares.
now you see you flipped the message in your post spreading lies, that bonafide certholders would not get paid...the problem with your post is we certholders have the evidence...of nss.....you have nothing you don't own those shares in your account CEDE & Company owns those shares....you have no evidence...again you failed to follow directions.
i would suggest the IRS needs to investigate your postings and learn exactly who your "source" is....which hedge fund you work for.
have a nice day, and by all means, continue to post your news from your "source" ....great entertainment! tell me are you connected to pb66 and the nufced losers who also are not getting paid, but continue to post doom and gloom here because they hate that we are getting paid and they are not?
By: rodgranite 15 Dec 2008, 11:25 PM EST Msg. 787065 of 787748 (Msg. is a reply to by None.) I was wondering....
If I can expect a payout this month. The last rumor I heard from a source deep in the Treasury Dept. was $4.50 per share, nss only, paid in 3 payments...time tbd. I was hoping that someone here would have the latest info. Also, from what I am hearing from my source, the holders of certs, that are bona-fied, will get nothing since they got their shares. Only those of us that thought clearly and didn't get certs will get rich. The rest of you can pass your time praying to Lord Casavant.
By: rodgranite 18 Dec 2008, 03:16 PM EST Msg. 787756 of 787814 (This msg. is a reply to 787752 by leowanta.) Jump to msg. #
No...
you have proof that you got your shares. I am demanding damages because I can't get mine. I have electronic proof of ownership which is every bit as valid as a physical cert. We shall see.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 18, 2008 17:39:44 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 18 Dec 2008, 11:40 AM EST Msg. 787677 of 787817 Jump to msg. # why hasn't URBAN been arrested? By: rodgranite 18 Dec 2008, 03:08 PM EST Msg. 787750 of 787816 (This msg. is a reply to 787677 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Arrested? You should feel fortunate to have even been as close as you were to him. I have it on good authority that he isn't mad at the doubters and has cancelled his plans for a libel suit. By: rosencrantz2010 18 Dec 2008, 04:01 PM EST Msg. 787764 of 787818 (This msg. is a reply to 787750 by rodgranite.) Jump to msg. # rod, if URBAN is thinking of a libel suit then he should first be targeting the federal government and TYLER, they've said a lot worse things in formal proceedings and documents than i ever have! lol
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 18, 2008 19:48:27 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 18, 2008 19:52:23 GMT -5
By: darlingdaphne 18 Dec 2008, 05:57 PM EST Msg. 787821 of 787851 Jump to msg. # By: jcline 18 Dec 2008, 11:48 AM EST Msg. 1182040 of 1182046 Jump to msg. # Elgindy loses Appeal Former stock picker Anthony Elgindy lost an appeal of his conviction for using inside in formation to make short sales and extort money from companies he wrote about in an online newsletter. A New York-based appeals court upheld El gindy's 2005 conviction and sentence for racketeering conspiracy, securities fraud, wire fraud and extortion. www.nypost.com/seven/12182008/business/business_briefs_144730.htm
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 18, 2008 19:54:07 GMT -5
By: sportsman93306 18 Dec 2008, 04:10 PM EST Msg. 787772 of 787851 Jump to msg. #
CARQUEST BELIEVES NO MONEY IS THERE FOR DIST.EM
By: carquest44 18 Dec 2008, 04:28 PM EST Msg. 787788 of 787851 (This msg. is a reply to 787772 by sportsman93306.) Jump to msg. #
sportsman, None of what you said is true. You better get a new source. Everyone have a very safe and enjoyable holiday. Heres something to think about. IF IT WAS A SNAKE, IT WOULD HAVE BIT YOU! Have a good day all.
By: jjjp7676 18 Dec 2008, 05:59 PM EST Msg. 787822 of 787851 (This msg. is a reply to 787788 by carquest44.) Jump to msg. #
Carquest Great another riddle~~~~~ Have a great Holiday
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 18, 2008 19:55:36 GMT -5
By: aladin99 18 Dec 2008, 06:41 PM EST Msg. 787828 of 787851 Jump to msg. #
I just told SEC they wrote GARBAGE - Pls do so every long!
coxca@sec.gov; mccoyj@sec.gov; whitem@sec.gov; hakalal@sec.gov; tysonr@sec.gov, thomsenl@sec.gov, senator@shelby.senate.gov; oig@sec.gov oiea@sec.gov enforcement@sec.gov chairmanoffice@sec.gov tradingandmarkets@sec.gov oms@sec.gov cmkmdiamonds@sec.gov help@sec.gov; newyork@sec.gov; boston@sec.gov; philadelphia@sec.gov; miami@sec.gov; enforcement@sec.gov; rmiller28@bloomberg.net; comments@whitehouse.gov losangeles@sec.gov, publicinfo@sec.gov, help@sec.gov,
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 18, 2008 19:57:47 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 18, 2008 19:58:14 GMT -5
By: aladin99 18 Dec 2008, 06:55 PM EST Msg. 787835 of 787851 Jump to msg. # SEC stated JE/UC splitted $53M from selling unregistered shares...How dumb they were if they raised 600B Unregistered shares...How could that be?
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 18, 2008 19:59:28 GMT -5
By: sportsman93306 18 Dec 2008, 04:10 PM EST Msg. 787772 of 787851 Jump to msg. # CARQUEST BELIEVES NO MONEY IS THERE FOR DIST.EM By: carquest44 18 Dec 2008, 04:28 PM EST Msg. 787788 of 787851 (This msg. is a reply to 787772 by sportsman93306.) Jump to msg. # sportsman, None of what you said is true. You better get a new source. Everyone have a very safe and enjoyable holiday. Heres something to think about. IF IT WAS A SNAKE, IT WOULD HAVE BIT YOU! Have a good day all. By: jjjp7676 18 Dec 2008, 05:59 PM EST Msg. 787822 of 787851 (This msg. is a reply to 787788 by carquest44.) Jump to msg. # Carquest Great another riddle~~~~~ Have a great Holiday By: klonopin2mg 18 Dec 2008, 07:09 PM EST Msg. 787837 of 787851 (This msg. is a reply to 787788 by carquest44.) Jump to msg. # hiyah carquest' guess the snake was really close. "IF IT WAS A SNAKE, IT WOULD HAVE BIT YOU!" enjoy your holidays as well! good to see you still read the board from time to time! By: rosencrantz2010 18 Dec 2008, 07:12 PM EST Msg. 787838 of 787851 (This msg. is a reply to 787837 by klonopin2mg.) Jump to msg. # klon, carquest is obviously saying the payoff, in whatever form, is coming in the next few weeks. we should hear something BIG in a week to ten days.
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