correct me if I am wrong....??
But doesn't this open up a huge can of worms for the Tyler Clan??
Via the Brewer Saga??
I believe it was GOB that was keeping track of this one.
If so, no wonder Frizzell didnt want to touch this or Deli with a 10 foot poll.
the Brewer threadcmkxunofficial.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=mofo&action=display&thread=1575Steve Brewer ... not smelling pretty
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IF true... and I can think of a few others who will stink to the high heavens along with Brewer.
After the infamous "secret meeting".....rumor has been that the "inner circle" dumped, unloaded, (call it what you want) their shares based on info that was not privy to the rest of us shareholders. Now this story seems to fit right in.
Seems this is a hot topic going around the boards..... remember take with a grain of salt,,, as we do with all rumors..... even though
Some of the info seems to be verified.Goodolboy
Executive AdministratorBD, sorry to say, but a pretty strong case has been established showing a group of TOGI investors unloaded their shares into a third market after revocation knowing that those shares would be considered unregistered securities. Additionally, that third market was promoted heavily through these boards with procurement of those unregistered securities through Deli and Ines. You have already spilled the beans stating that Ines attempted to blackmail Frizzell if certain entities did not stop bashing her on the boards. You further misspoke by confirming that the Steven M. Brewer deli was dealing with was the same on associated with TOGI, who also happens to be the one that purchased a coffee company in South America that happens to be promoted on the TOGI website.
Now, I'm going to stop right here with the rest of the information, but suffice it to say I'm pretty certain that an update on the CMKM website will most likely be available soon, and hopefully it will address these concerns. Get your tops out gents... it's time to spin.
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DIAMOND JEDI MASTERI have been surprised about all the recent information coming out about Steven Brewer. I have spoken to several individuals, whom I trust implicitly, over the past few months about this fellow… and therefore I didn’t think he was such a mystery. However, for those who have been asking…. here's some more information to add to the mix...
First, before I begin… all this information is second hand to me. Much of the information is hearsay and can’t be backed up with documentation. (Believe me, I would be the first to try to find the documents to prove these claims) But, I can say that those who shared this information with me have spoken directly with Deli, Steven Brewer, Bill Frizzell and others and they believe this information is factual.
To begin, Steven Brewer has been identified as the person who sold Billions of Shares to Deli. Deli himself has made that claim for some time. Steven Brewer is said to have received the shares from other insiders within CMKX.
The story is, after Deli had no more CMKX Certs to sell from regular shareholders, Steven Brewer approached Deli with more CMKX shares to sell. Ultimately, Billions more shares. Steven Brewer is said to have known all the original CMKX insiders, and all the players in Las Vegas, since he lived there at the time.
Therefore, in affect, Steven Brewer became Deli’s partner... and Bill Frizzell apparently knew all about it. In fact, there are further claims that Bill Frizzell asked Deli to personally send him, as well as to the task force, all the paperwork on all the Certs Deli had received from Steven Brewer, and later sold.
Some people believe Steven Brewer is at least a business associate of Bill Frizzell as they believe they are both original investors in TOGI. And, if Kevin West is/ was in fact a VP at TOGI, he would have then known Steven Brewer too.
I don’t know how that information can be verified; but that claim has been made. Moreover, there are some who believe The Tyler Gang as a whole profited from Steven Brewer’s acquisition and sales of CMKX shares. Again, I don’t know how that claim can be verified… but that is the claim.
Interestingly, Steven Brewer moved to South America, to Nicaragua, right after he sold his shares to Deli. Again, folks who know Deli very well, and who have spoken to Deli about this, provided this information to me months ago. It was no secret.
Also, you may have seen on TOGI’s web site (www.toginet.net) that TOGI is now actually selling coffee from Nicaragua… and one can’t help but wonder if this isn’t Steven Brewer’s newest business venture. (Look in the bottom right corner of the web page.)
Apparently, according to some very early CMKX investors, Steven Brewer also sold some CMKX shares directly to shareholders when he was actively posting on the 66 Proboard. It is also claimed that he gave Bill Frizzell’s name and contact information out as his personal reference at the time. And, I’ve heard the claim that a CMKX shareholder actually called Bill Frizzell to ask about Steven Brewer and his shares; and that Bill Frizzell gave a positive reference. This happened long ago… Still, I've been told that there were several CMKX shareholders listening in on the phone conversation, at the time, who later confirmed the discussion and Bill's positive reference for Steven Brewer.
Some people believe Bill was right in the middle of it… that he knew Deli had received his CMKX Certs from Steven Brewer… and that Bill Frizzell blessed it all. Moreover, they believe Steven Brewer was Bill Frizzell’s friend and business associate at the time, and maybe still to this day… if in fact Steven Brewer was one of the original investors in TOGI.
So, the $64 question that leaves everybody shaking there heads is “why did Steven Brewer go to South America and leave Deli hanging in front of the SEC? And, equally important, why is Bill Frizzell now pretending that he knows nothing about Deli’s relationship with Steven Brewer? Why has Bill Frizzell suggested publicly that Deli somehow has sold shares that may not have been legally recorded and approved by the TA?
Now, perhaps this all is part of the plan… and that is why nobody associated with Tyler talked about it while it was happening. (e.g. Deli being dragged in front of the SEC) And, perhaps that is why KW/ BF now seem more willing to talk about NSS and Existing Assets that will allow us to trade... after they saw how badly shareholders reacted to all the negativity that the Tyler Group had been spewing toward shareholders.
On the other hand, this apparent relationship with Steve Brewer has some people wondering if the Tyler Group has not been completely honest with the CMKX Shareholders.
I have heard that Deli’s view is that BF and Steven Brewer and other members of TOGI may have tried to set Urban Casavant for a fall, and that their goals are not in alignment with those of the CMKX Shareholders. Certainly, assuming this story is essentially correct, Deli would not have much love lost for the Tyler Gang after being brought up in front of the SEC while Steven Brewer disappears to Nicaragua.
When Bill Frizzell talks about bad CMKX Certs (from Deli)... one has to wonder... why hasn’t Bill publicly admitted that he knew all about Deli’s relationship with Steven Brewer, and that Steven Brewer is the source of Deli’s shares…. and why hasn’t BF publicly acknowledged his own business interests and relationship with Steven Brewer?
Other interesting information suddenly has been posted that perhaps there are two Steven Brewers. For example, here is a (recent?) post that I believe was posted in a Paltalk room (It came to me from another source without identification of the source):
Quote:“natrby: Wait till the rest comes out, there will be no way to look the other way
Bx: we'll see, especially if a party is associated with Steven Brewer. lol
natrby: you are aware that there are 2 steven brewer's right?
natrby: not the same onr that helped deli
natrby: one
Bx: Just like there are 7 accas.
natrby: I am stating fact
natrby: 2 different brewers
Bx: And Helen says that Deli's certs are as good as GOLD!
natrby: easy to check out
natrby: you do realize that helen's goose is cooked?
Bx: I'm only interested in the one who fled to south america - lol
natrby: delis brewer and togi brewer are not the same person”
Natrby is not apparently a normal poster in that room. Those who were in the room say natrby is close to Tyler and that he is also an Admin on “fishing for diamonds” board. I don’t know… but here you have this new Spin… suddenly there are 2 guys with the same name (Stephen Brewer). Even for me, that is way to convenient to be true, imo. LMOL!
I have to believe Kevin West knows about Steven Brewer too. In a conversation I had with Kevin West last January, Kevin claimed to have gotten involved with CMKX after working for Bill on the Task Force. Yet, we also know KW was a poster who rallied against NSS on the early CMKX Boards. Both KW and BF live in Tyler, Tx; I always wondered what relationship Kevin had with Bill and The Owners Group, Inc. (TOGI/ OG) there too, from before the Task Force. Then, I saw the link to the information I posted in a separate thread earlier today that suggests Kevin was/ and may still be a VP at TOGI.
Since the OG claims to have been formed to help investors find "Clean" companies, free of corruption and NSS influences", that leads me to assume the Tyler Group may very well be part of the Plan. Still, others are not convinced. In the meantime, the Tyler Group themselves say they are not.
Who knows... CMKX is a continuing saga of "twists and turns", lots of speculation, and few conclusive facts.
AIMO,
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