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[soonerlew]

seagull
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sandi66
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MP3 of Salty 1/16/09 with others
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MP3 of Salty, mccurdydon, spudey and davidjmar



ty suddenfortune


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~ Partial recap by seagull: ~

[The first 1/2 of the mp3 was mainly Salty talking... I switched from 'I' to 'he' ... either is usually Salty... Hope it is clearer now.]

Salty said he has been sitting on this for a long time...
It starts with a paper trail. He still doesn't know what is going on but he has made some contacts.

Now he has started an email trail with Fenra and the SEC know about all of his purchases.
Frizzell said we had trillions of NSS.

Then he went over to the 4th floor level bank building in Tyler and witnessed all of the trading records, etc of all the bad guys and KW saying we have narrowed it down to 50Billion NSS.... with boxes and boxes of certs... KW saying we are not calling them NSS ...but failures to deliver...

They know Salty saw the driver's license of John Edwards ...transfers of stock over to Thomasa Trust in FL
They promised they would do something in the future.
They promised to show all of his letters to Mary Shapiro and to email me of this effect... which they haven't done.

He (Salty) loaned Keith Houser $15k twice and he is making payments as he is suppose to told him ...said Frizzell is helping him... Houser said "I cannot be more thankful ... but Bill Frizzell is helping me"...
Salty asked KH about the Wells Fargo news deal... and he said absolutely yes.. hundreds and hundreds of certs were going through... illegal... We haven't heard anything from Frizzell about his golden seal medallion

(Salty was getting jammed constantly... )

Houser says we get 1c to 2c per share later in the year (in the past)... so I (Salty) called my friend & he called & asked Frizzell ...He (BF) said that is not what he said... but we ARE getting a lot of money...

....(cutting out).... sealed document... guy named Jeff... WellsFargo... be responsible... (cutting out )

(Salty is having line problem at home... then goes dead... )

Salty said: I called Sarge and my phone was jammed... I have never had my phone jammed. I will keep trying to talk now.

Talking to people at the SEC.. they know about the stock I bought and why... and from that I bought at Nev. West Securities...

A conversation with CEO of BDLF ...that worked across the hall from Nev. West... said he was approached by John Edwards, Shawn Ackman, & Gary Walters in order to do the same thing to BDLF that they did to CMKX

I (Salty) told them about the BMCS I have bought ... asked Keith Houser about the float & he (KW) said that was correct... We are at the point of being just like Eagle Tech.. there are no shares left of BMCS

Ameritrade gave him (Salty) the run around when he asked for his cert.
I (Salty) got the name of the pres. of the bank who is testifying on behalf of BMCS and should be testifying on behalf of CMKX ... who allowed the girl who medallion sealed all the illegal certs that went through the bank...

Bill Frizzell should be doing the same thing Keith Houser is with BMCS... hundreds of the certs came from CMKX
How can he help Houser if he (BF) hasn't done it himself.

I (Salty) called my friend in Texas who has given Frizzell a lot of money. He (friend) called Frizzell to varify the 1-2cents... Frizzell denied saying that... but said we would get a lot of money.

He went back to Houser... and Houser again said Frizzell did say 1-2cents...

Salty said he is tired of Frizzell telling one person one thing and another ...something else.

Frizzell said we have 29 potash mines..........
...told to watch API which is a potash company
Chinese are all over the Falc

In the past 2 weeks I (Salty) bought a million shares... there are 3 million in the float... with each sale ... the float inches down...

......... 50mil shares were put into the float by Helen Bagley (our TA at First Global) ...........

Someone Salty knows someone who said cmkx was shorted into the ground... and Chairman Cox said not to regulate

Not until he is in front of Congress will he (Salty) divulge the name of his friend who told him.

Salty made a comment about UC playing David Jamar like a __?__ putting him at risk because he has a bad heart by contacting him saying things ... like we aren't going to get any money ... he (DJ) could die...

Sandy said: UC called to check to see how David Jamar was doing. It was when David said something that UC flew off... ??

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Conversation within the room ...asked about the rumor that Frizzell may have been paid 2cents over a year ago... Frizzell does have the 1-2cents per share...but rumor has it he is going to offer us less than that ... just half a cent or 1/4 of a cent or something... and we have to give up our certs if we do that. We are hearing that Frizzell is pocketing the rest. Someone said they are out to screw the shareholders period. Expecting something in the mail maybe next week... not sure.

Someone said there is no way that Tyler can steal the money that the DTCC has been holding for us for distribution.

Spudy said the 2cent is with Frizzell... and the rest is with the DTCC.
Spudy is saying he is hearing the big money is coming from the DTCC


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I listened to parts of the last half of the mp3 .... primarily discussion about payout, Tyler, the function of Tyler as we have discussed before... to help non-shareholders and to keep the company alive (important) so we can be paid.
~seagull



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[soonerlew]

By: gusjarvis
17 Jan 2009, 06:41 PM EST
Msg. 799169 of 799186
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hey chris it is all bullchit until this is over


and that is a fact, we are fine, our land is fine, our nss cover payment is fine, our certs were tracked, urban is fine, eagletech is fine, overstock is fine, the movie will be out, oquinn will win and settle, the billionaire ring who ran the hedge funds will be outed, the fed will go away, the dtcc will be fixed and made to pay, the sec will go down in its' present form, naked shorting will end for real, coverings on and off market happened and are happening, and cmkx shareholders will get a check


cheers bro







By: my69z
17 Jan 2009, 07:06 PM EST
Msg. 799181 of 799189
(This msg. is a reply to 799169 by gusjarvis.)
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I just call it what they're showin....with any eye on a route to fraud,,,,not trusting any of'em until i see somethin concrete finally.

Can't keep makin excuses for them too now,,,,,like so many did Urban....in alot of ways,,,,they're resembling alot of the old schit

not willing to be taken by surprise on any "claims" again....so no assuming 4 this guy that they're just gonna walk right back into any deals

Neither side has shown anything for yrs now.......nothing





By: gusjarvis
17 Jan 2009, 07:11 PM EST
Msg. 799185 of 799189
(This msg. is a reply to 799181 by my69z.)
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chris don't blame you but oquinn looks like

he has done nothing and is getting nowhere, but he is my friend, and so will we.

have a good weekend

[soonerlew]

By: aladin99
17 Jan 2009, 08:38 PM EST
Msg. 799205 of 799222
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Shares bought from Deli are fine...
because they are not NS nor unregistered shares...What the SEC said was to hide their fault....
UC what IC?





By: darlingdaphne
17 Jan 2009, 08:51 PM EST
Msg. 799209 of 799222
(This msg. is a reply to 799205 by aladin99.)
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aladin99 everything sold after the second dividend payout date
are unregistered (CIM first dividend) why do you think UC
put his shares in escrow for 3 years

[soonerlew]

By: aladin99
17 Jan 2009, 08:50 PM EST
Msg. 799208 of 799222
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I think part of the plan was to make shares look like they are worthless but they are not....

[soonerlew]

By: aladin99
17 Jan 2009, 08:57 PM EST
Msg. 799211 of 799223
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Hey bashers: Why the SEC cares about worthless shares from Deli???
WhyTH you care about our investment here?
LMAO

[soonerlew]

By: gusjarvis
17 Jan 2009, 09:14 PM EST
Msg. 799216 of 799223
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and chris this post is dead on by bellingus

By: Bellingus
17 Jan 2009, 03:14 PM EST
Msg. 36911 of 36918
(This msg. is a reply to 36909 by morg38off.)
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Morg…
What a question. Two movies come to mind. For the oldsters, Gone With The Wind and for the pups, The Matrix. BTW, neither of the plots or titles is relevant. What is relevant is that both movies are extremely complex. Say you’re watching the final ten minutes of either one and someone comes in the room and asks, “What’s this flick about?” Where do you begin? It’s almost impossible to do either of the stories justice with a few lines. The same thing applies to CMKX.

There are a couple of things I will comment on. First, consider the call for bona fide shares. This was the largest and most expensive certificate pull in the history of the markets. One major online broker spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to be sure to get certs out to their customers. Why would they do that? And why would the original team insist on it happening and then make arrangements for it?

One of the reasons people are so frustrated is they aren’t asking the right questions. I laugh when people express how upset they are that Frizzle didn’t follow through with his findings on nss. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, his fax campaign wasn’t conclusive. Second, if you go back to August of 04, the existence or absence of nss was proven (as it was on several occasions prior) and Friz simply doesn’t have the rights to the evidence gained prior to his arrival.

Another thing people fail to see is that the old company’s business was wrapped up before they passed the ball. The Tyler guys inherited an empty shell with only limited rights to act on past business. Simple, right? With the exception of a couple of apparent superficial though poetntially important ties, the present CMKX and the old CMKX have little in common.

Oh, and to answer your question a bit more directly: legal milestones.

Here’s a related post by someone who goes by Bellingus, as if he has a friggin’ clue:

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By: gusjarvis
17 Jan 2009, 09:16 PM EST
Msg. 799217 of 799223
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another


By: Bellingus
06 Mar 2008, 08:45 AM EST
Msg. 30241 of 36918
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Where’s The Value?

It’s sometimes funny to read some of the discussions about the claims, the race pump, the massive scam, the massive sting, the hearing in May of 05… I could go on and on. But to place attention on any of those issues is looking way beyond the immediate, and IMO, the most significant point. Are those things important? Some are. But there’s something infinitely more important and most ppl have hardly considered it at all.

From time to time ppl bring up the topic of the gross number of naked shorted shares that are thought by some to exist in CMKX. It’s interesting that original management never mentioned it publicly after late 2003. Bill Frizzell tried to make it a point of contention at the administrative hearing and the judge would not even listen. Fast forward to today and there is virtually no one of consequence who will openly or officially entertain such a notion. Ever wonder why?

My opinion is this: There is a significant number of NSS in CMKX. Can I prove it? Nope. Can anyone? Of course. Will anyone ever prove it for all to see? I doubt it. Why? Because it’s a secret.

Let’s shift gears for a moment to make a point. What is value? That’s a pretty open-ended question. Value, like beauty, is often in the eye of the beholder. Obviously there are things that almost everyone recognizes as valuable, but what is valuable can also be very subjective.

Pretend for a moment that you own every rookie baseball card for every major league baseball hall of fame player. That would be a valuable collection, right? But let’s look at it from a couple of different perspectives. There are a little over 200 rookie hall of fame cards. What would they be worth in scrap paper value? Pennies – nearly nothing. What would they be worth to an Aboriginal bush family who’d never even heard of baseball? Nothing. And finally, what might they be worth to a card-collecting baseball fanatic? Perhaps a lot of money. Different perspectives, different values.

Okay, back to the point. Let’s play the ‘what if’ game for a second. What if the actual OS of CMKX is really very small and hidden from public view for all to see? What if all the bona fide shares held by ppl like you and me represent numbers way over and above all the legitimate shares of record? And here's the kernel:

What if these bona fide shares are the only real evidence that the American stock market, our trusted financial system, along with literally dozens of legitimate, mainstream brokers had cheated thousands of ppl?

And what if, to ensure that the integrity of that system was never in question, those shares HAD to go away or risk being exposed as a not-so-safe or friendly system?

What kind of value would bona fide shares have then? Ever thought of it that way?

I’m not saying that this is the case. I’m just wondering out loud and saying what if that were the case? Would it matter where the claims were? Nope. Would it matter who present management was? Nope. Would it matter who did what and when and for what reason? Nope. Would it matter if new management got the stock trading again? Nope. Would it matter…? You get my point. What would matter?

Only that someone or some entity would want to take those shares out of circulation. Ah! Now they become valuable. If there is any accuracy to the point I’m making, and I believe there is, it doesn’t matter AT ALL who’s running the company at present or what they’re doing or trying to do. Period! The bona fide shares have value independent of ALL the other things ppl feel are so important about this play.

I think many ppl are frustrated because they spend time trying to figure out stuff that isn’t even relevant – at least not at the moment. And even if some of it were relevant, certain things have been purposely designed so they are nearly impossible to figure out – so don’t feel bad if you don’t get a lot of it!

New management – old management? Who has the claims and why do they have them and why were some left to expire and was there work done on them? Who are the important JVs? Was this a massive case of fraud or a masterful undercover operation? And on and on and on. And at the present moment, most of it doesn’t matter at all. Ah, but those bona fide shares, that’s interesting stuff.

AMHO

Peace.

[soonerlew]

66boardhelpeddeli
Truth Seeker

Re: Welcome to the Board 66boardhelpeddeli
« Reply #2 Yesterday at 3:32pm »

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First and Foremost,

I wanted to say THANK YOU for allowing me to join. Thank You!

When I was a member of Board 66 (board 32) during the Marco Glisson, Accadacca and Jay_Adobe escapade, I was approached by Marco via a PM because,according to him, he was approached by Timontoo and CDLIC (Gordon) about me possibly unloading my shares. He wanted to know how many shares I was looking to unload and the price in which I was looking for. I told him that I would need to contact the SEC and a broker before I made a decision to see if it was legal. He assured me everything was on the UP & UP and that I should not need to contact anyone in regards to a possible transaction. I then gave him my phone number and he called me with all the details. The details outlined the PPS that he was willing to offer me based on the amount of shares that I was willing to let go. when I told him how many shares I had, he laughed and said I was wasting his time. I then ask him if the TF was aware of his transactions and he said they were. As a matter of fact, according to him, they also showed interest in unloading shares. This was around the time of the cert pull.

I then called the SEC and a Broker and ask about these types of transactions. They basically stated the same thing and said that I should not get involved and left it at that.

I then PM'ed Timontoo, Braindamage and CDLIC (CDLIC was not very active during those days) about these transaction and stated
why I thought they shouldn't be helping, or allowing the board to be used to make these transactions. I was basically told the same thing by each of them which was that I shouldn't worry about how the board was conducted. Timontoo also stated that she would keep the deli thread alive so that others who wanted to buy and sell from Deli had the opportunity to do so. This is when she modified the thread to not allow people to make public offers and made it a rule to take it to a PM with deli if they were interested. I should also note that this is about the time that Acca and Jay appeared with their outrageous lies. I tried to derail their threads but Timontoo and Braindamage wouldn't tolerate me or anyone else to discuss their obvious lies.

Interesting how they all turned around. Most likely after they unloaded their shares or took payment to allow such illegal activity.

Thanks again for allowing me to speak about this.


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66boardhelpeddeli
Truth Seeker

Re: Welcome to the Board 66boardhelpeddeli
« Reply #10 Today at 8:41am »

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Today at 3:31am, Ric wrote:

I also know that I was asked to back off of Ines when she came to the board. I was told there was someone with a lot of shares that was trying to sell them and was to leave her alone until the sale was over. I later learn this was Brewer. The Brewer debacle is one reason that I have a problem with the TOGI and it's role in many cases to the secret Texas tea party to the phase II money collected right before this company was formed then telling the shareholders that they were not clients, John Martin was. The money was only in support of John.

Ric,

Thank You for validating what the apparent agenda was at the time
through your experiences. In a sense, what they did on that board and others could be considered front-running and making a market. By allowing a central location for these illegal transactions to take place between a wide spectrum of greedy, desperate, delusional and manipulative people. Until this recent SEC action, what i didn't realize was how big of a market they and other boards were making.

In light of all this, it's apparent to me that 66 board and its staff must have been helping someone other than Glisson. If I were to take a guess, the central people helped would have to be Brewer and Gordon (CDLIC). I know Gordon, according to him, had a group of people with somewhere around $$$ 1 Million in shares collectively. And After learning how connected Brewer was with 66 board and TOGI (Thanks to GOB), I think it's safe to state that he was the other main player in all this. Now the burning question in my mind is how much money did board 66 staff make by helping these people, therefore hurting many others who are now stuck with worthless securities based on all these lies perpetuated by a very shady group of people.

Even a more disturbing question is how much the TOGI players and Frizzell played in all this and how did and how will each of them benefit from screwing 40,000 plus people. I continue to think many shareholders will get the ultimate shaft in the end.






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Ric
Executive Administrator

Re: Welcome to the Board 66boardhelpeddeli
« Reply #11 Today at 9:07am »

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I brought this up once and no one paid much attention to my thoughts at the time but I found one thing very interesting about all this Ines wants to buy talk back then.

Many told me that when they tried to sell to Ines that she, after giving them the run around, would chastise them for selling shares and cancel the transaction. I mentioned on the board that it looked to me that these people were using the, I want to buy your shares, as a cover for where did they get all these shares to sell. So when people would question them as to where these shares came from, all they had to say is that we have been buying shares from the bashers that no longer wanted them.

It was only a thought at the time. That was before I knew about Brewer and him also being a vehicle to help Urban and Kinney sale more shares. Sort of like Urban's use of NS to hide massive dumping.
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[soonerlew]

By: aladin99
18 Jan 2009, 11:10 AM EST
Msg. 799321 of 799500
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goodolboy turned Deli in just like nufced turned in UC by calling the SEC about here FREE shares at the races...

[soonerlew]

By: johnnyic
17 Jan 2009, 07:29 PM EST
Msg. 799196 of 799502
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Everyone thinking Deli's shares are worthless, and ours are not?





By: klonopin2mg
17 Jan 2009, 07:34 PM EST
Msg. 799197 of 799502
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hiyah johnnyic'

i think there's a whole lot of shares that are worthless....a number a don't suspect we'll ever be quite sure of...

jmo





By: mjl62
18 Jan 2009, 12:56 AM EST
Msg. 799252 of 799501
(This msg. is a reply to 799197 by klonopin2mg.)
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klon / board.
Here is Mr Klonopin's public apology. I was dead wrong and I am truly sorry. I did have him mixed up with another poster. I feel pretty bad about this. And I guess I should. As I already told Mr K. I don't expect him to forgive me. He emailed me a couple times and was very gracious. Which honestly made me feel even worse! But NOOOO he seems to be a decent guy. It was an easy mistake to make. I am truly embarrassed about this. Therefore, this is my final post. I'll just keep my big mouth shut! Once again... I am sorry Chuck. Good luck to all the good people on here. And to the rest of you crooks. Hell is waiting. And while your waiting, say hello to Bubba!





By: klonopin2mg
18 Jan 2009, 11:40 AM EST
Msg. 799342 of 799501
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mjl62'

i appreciate the apology, but there's no reason for you to stop posting. i am just as passionate aboout having those that have wronged us pay the price. i come off as over zealous sometime in my posts regarding the "good outcome" which obviously we haven't seen while many good people are suffering tremendously. i fully understand your frustrations. i know a little more about you now than i did in the past. i'm sure it had to be difficult to come back here and make that post.

THAT POST! makes me a very happy individual just knowing even through your difficulties (and yes i know a good bit more than you'd think) and your right to be pi__ed at anyone and everyone involved. i may have done the same thing if i was in your shoes.

please post as often as have the feeling, don't let anyone stop you from doing what you feel is right.

it's your RIGHT! and we are on the same side, we don't have to see everything the same way. i'll take up arguement with anyone on these boards and that excludes no one.

take care friend!

klon'

[soonerlew]

By: newtopennies
18 Jan 2009, 11:44 AM EST
Msg. 799348 of 799502
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MAYBE a courtroom is the only place to settle this? eom.

[soonerlew]

By: newtopennies
18 Jan 2009, 11:48 AM EST
Msg. 799353 of 799503
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SHIFT...WHEN you say 'wrapped up', you are inferring to the original, Nevada corporation that is now in Canada. What about Tyler? How does Tyler hold sway over any NSS settlement we may get? TIA. eom.






By: monetaryshift
18 Jan 2009, 11:56 AM EST
Msg. 799360 of 799503
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ntp, yes i am referring to that same original nevada corp. regarding the balance of your question i guess it remains to be seen






ms

[soonerlew]

By: chrisl_laughing1
18 Jan 2009, 12:06 PM EST
Msg. 799377 of 799503
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With the recent events against Marco (Deli Dog) Glisson the efforts to discredit Tyler are in full force. I am not a Tyler fan by any accounts but Marco has his friends out there trying to distract the seriousness of this issue.

Marco enlisted many people to help with the rumors so he could make a market as an unlicensed broker with a revoked stock.

Are some of these people on various boards in the sites of the SEC next?

Marco was telling Mona this past Christmas not to worry about the SEC.

Funny how he lied again.






By: goodolboy27
18 Jan 2009, 12:11 PM EST
Msg. 799384 of 799503
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chrisl, not sure if it is Marco behind it. Most likely it's the ones that assisted Marco that haven't been charged with anything yet. You know, like Treffrey, Mona, Acca, Jay, willy, Koolmoney, etc. It's CYA time for them. LOL!





By: chrisl_laughing1
18 Jan 2009, 12:52 PM EST
Msg. 799403 of 799504
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Well good I have to disagree. When the complaint came out I happened to be sitting in Mona's room and the first thing she said was, I talked to Deli over the holidays and he said don't worry about anything. Deli was logged onto Paltalk at the same time while she was spewing her information.

good you are not a regular of the Paltalk rooms but there is a guy named koolmoney (Scott) and he and Deli were in bed together with the pumping of CMKM. koolmoney even bragged in the room one night how he pocketed $75,000.00 from selling certs.

[soonerlew]

By: eggbeater-101
18 Jan 2009, 12:30 PM EST
Msg. 799391 of 799504
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Saltydog said Tyler has collect two cents for all the shareholders.

They will offer us a small portion of that as a settlement and keep the rest. Saltydog also says the DTCC has more money for us. Spudey says his sources are saying the same.

How long can they hold our money? I'm glad we have these people to tell us what is happening. I will not buy the BCMS stock, there is no need to if I am getting paid two cents for all my CMKX shares.

I bought FFGO, GBDX, HGLC and nothing has transpired even though we all know they are connected with CMKX because the gurus told us it was.
I am so happy, God Bless you all.