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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 17:49:16 GMT -5
misisipiflyer Global Moderator Editor-in-Chief & Head Flunky Smoke & Mirrors « Thread Started Yesterday at 7:45pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well here we are, years have gone by and we are all still waiting to be compensated for being NSS/Counterfieted whatever you may want to call it. But, still we wait, no matter how dire the economy gets, how bad the rumors are, no matter how impatient we become, we still wait. Our most favorite Federal Government Dept. has gone to extremes to smear the shareholders and anyone involved with this stock, even though there is enough information at hand to prove otherwise. Then we have the crew in Tyler,texas, the people we love to hate. They have worked behind the scenes tirelessly along with the Feds to disuade the shareholders. "We have nothing of value" and there "is no money", along with the "Urban Casavant is a crook", and once again, there are enough facts to prove otherwise. This just proves how inept the Feds really are. Get a grip, forget the fun and games your are playing, because it is a total waste! PERIOD end of story! The elequent Jay Adobe more than once pointed out the "bouncing balls" and "do you see the forest or the trees", and don't forget "is the glass half full or half empty" to us in many posts. One sees what one wants to see, one hears what one wants to hear, it's a figment of human nature for better or worse. Once again the rumor mills are in overdrive. Several well known shareholders have taken the time and energy to actually call the SEC as well as the DTC to see what they could find out. Just this week, one such person was told that there IS money coming our way for damages. From the figures he has, it was formulated in the end to be approx. .02 per share for damages. Bob Hollenegg has taken the lead and made many contacts the past few months. His contact with attorney Al Hodges, has raised the hopes of those still waiting for info. Will he be successful? We shall see, and sure hope he is! Now, for the rest of the story, as the infamous Paul Harvey says; This is to you pricks working for the Feds. Try as you may, try all that you can, we shareholders will NOT, let me repeat, we will NOT be beaten down to the point we will accept a small percentage of monies we are due. You are wasteing OUR tax dollars doing so. WE see thru the smoke, we see thru the bs you continue to spread, the lies that you are purposely telling. Forget it and move forward and get it done, PAY US! As for Kevin West, Mark Faulk, and Wild Bill Frizzel, you boys need to still to what you do best, because you bunch of country boys are the worst actors in the world! Talking down your arragant noses to the shareholders will backfire, and only you will be responsible. DO you really, really think we shareholders are as stupid you attempt to make us out to be??? Give me a friggn' break! Your whole clan of you couldn't find the Pacific Ocean if you were sitting in the middle of it in a rowboat. You may as well give it up with the fake phone call MP3's, the so called "news' you post on your website. WE ain't buying it! Get a life! The age of the internet (thanks to Al Gore,NOT) has proven to be a thorn and a blessing for the Feds and the shareholders as well. Info is at your fingertips, IF you know how and where to look. Many shareholders have learned to DD like never before and have found info hidden away from public view, that slipped thru the cracks. Enough of this such info has been found and so we remain confident as to the outcome of this long ordeal, we just don't know when. So, to sum it up, we continue to wait. Many are pinning their hopes on Pres. Obama to do what is humanly right and push the button, pull the trigger and allow us to get paid. We shall see. « Last Edit: Yesterday at 8:10pm by misisipiflyer » camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=5246
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 18:04:10 GMT -5
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 09:48 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804230 of 804387
Jump to msg. # SUN. Bashers please explain this....
"Richards: I keep getting deeper and deeper into this thing and I really don't want to get into this. I really don't want to be involved with this issue."
By: sharasilva 31 Jan 2009, 09:52 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804232 of 804387 (Reply to 804230 by aladin99)
Jump to msg. # easy to explain, cmkx longs are crazy and Richards knows it.
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 10:04 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804240 of 804387 (Reply to 804232 by sharasilva)
Jump to msg. # Shara - Mark's position has been = to negate any positive rumors...that's what he has been doing....
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 18:04:51 GMT -5
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 10:11 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804242 of 804387
Jump to msg. # What if Richards told Mark what he told other shareholders, would you believe Mark would tell the same story when K.W wrote that letter yesterday? K.W probably had written that letter before Mark called the DTC...
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 18:06:20 GMT -5
By: monetaryshift 31 Jan 2009, 10:28 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804251 of 804388 (Reply to 804250 by newtopennies)
Jump to msg. # cftc/sec merger, derivatives, 'monetaryshift', 'DISTRIBUTION'
all in my humble opinion of course
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 18:07:10 GMT -5
By: goodolboy27 31 Jan 2009, 10:57 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804266 of 804388 (Reply to 804257 by elo54)
Jump to msg. # LMAO! Elo, you FED these boards with crap for years,and now come here and suggest you were just an innocent victim who was given false info. What a joke. You are no different than Treffry, surfit, willy, Woodan, Mano, Deli, Ines, Acca, tigerpaw and the rest of the pump crew.
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 18:08:45 GMT -5
By: snoopstock5 31 Jan 2009, 12:17 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804292 of 804389
Jump to msg. # Kevin should now what SPELL CHECK IS. If you get RESPECT, you will receive RESPECT. None at Tyler have respected us. By the way, I know an FBI agent. I was talking to him about ACCA and his MP3's. I told him about Paltalk and Acca coming on their for hours at a time. He told me his, "IF THE FBI OR DOJ WERE LOOKING FOR HIM, THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN HIM LONG AGO. IT WOULD TAKE THEM UNDER 5 MINUTES TO LOCATE HIM THROUGH CELL OR INTERNET." So what gives with that?
If you are one that is against the Company management right now, please take a moment an honestly ask yourself this: do you really believe that current management would do anything morally or even legally wrong to cause further damage to innocent shareholders with 50,000 shareholders, the SEC, Department of Treasury, DOJ, FBI, FINRA and only God knows who else looking over our shoulders?
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 18:10:55 GMT -5
By: leowanta 31 Jan 2009, 12:34 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804301 of 804391 Jump to msg. # ATTN CMKXERs...remember Tyler Texas has no connection whatsoever to the Nevada Company.... THEY LEGALLY ARE NOT THE SAME COMPANY...DIFFERENT TAX ID NUMBERS, DIFFERENT COMPANY PROFILES..... just because tyler has the same name, means nothing. it converted out a SHELL from Nevada, holding nothing, to start a NEW company in Texas...TYLER BOUGHT A NAME ONLY...NOTHING MORE. If Tyler was the same company as the Nevada company, they would have the same TAX IDENTFICATION NUMBERS....which is not the case. Tyler has no authority whatsoever over CMKXERs....reality.bites says he's an attorney, if he holds shares, there is nothing to stop him from suing Tyler for impostering the Nevada company and duping CMKX shareholders.....any of us, (CMKXERs) can sue Tyler for this FRAUD.....Tyler should close shop before we get paid, just a thought/suggestion! I have copied all of their UPDATES to SHAREHOLDERS....just for the record, i also have my trusty PICTURES of the computer monitor showing the website.....each page....along with digital saved links (those are not reliable, as tyler can remove the webpage making the links invalid....therefore, my digital camera and saved pics of the site: www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com!) leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 18:12:57 GMT -5
By: faithrocks 31 Jan 2009, 04:43 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804355 of 804391 (Reply to 804353 by solar-fantasy)
Jump to msg. # I guess we will all find out if there is a NAKED SHORT in CMKX AFTER some FORCED COMMUNICATION from Tyler.
Not the nambi pambi spin they put out on a regular basis.
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 31, 2009 18:14:16 GMT -5
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 05:59 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804387 of 804392 (Reply to 804311 by solar-fantasy)
Jump to msg. # SF - Have you noticed that Mark's voice changed every time people asked him about NSS...
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Post by Catdaddy on Jan 31, 2009 20:23:31 GMT -5
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 05:59 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804387 of 804392 (Reply to 804311 by solar-fantasy) Jump to msg. # SF - Have you noticed that Mark's voice changed every time people asked him about NSS... I agree...I think his voice inflection when addressing the NSS topic(C) in not only noticeable but a dead give-a-way that he is covering or hiding something. As always, JMHO. Later, Catdaddy
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 31, 2009 23:00:52 GMT -5
By: passinthru3 31 Jan 2009, 06:25 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804396 of 804465 Jump to msg. # Klon, do u think Al Hodges will be successful with the confirmation from the dtcc? By: klonopin2mg 31 Jan 2009, 06:44 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804406 of 804465 (Reply to 804396 by passinthru3) passinthru' i'd really like to stay away from answering questions in that regard simply because i know bhollonegg' pretty well..... i'll just say i trust Hodges to be on our side...in whatever steps he takes.... it really "wasn't" to hard to get confirmation of "$$" at the DTC, but as you can see...whoever leaks anything gets the broom. there's more than one office of the DTC, maybe phaulk should try another branch sure was a lot of buzz yesterday.....interesting reaction from tyler, both KW & MF.... i was on the phone all day yesterday until about 8:00 p.m. last night all about getting answers. i came away with even more questions, especially concerning some folks in tyler.... they won't want me to UNITE, no need to anyway...i'm all about shareholders (ONLY SHAREHOLDERS) already. did Kevin start a rumor in that letter about "trillions of dollors"lol i am CMKX worn out here... take care friend! klon'
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 31, 2009 23:07:30 GMT -5
By: ncmale28409 31 Jan 2009, 07:18 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804411 of 804467 (Reply to 804362 by aladin99)
Jump to msg. # aladin99, I doubt that. Remember he didn't even own a car when he became the CEO. Maybe a $1,000.00 is what he had in CMKX, if that. This is someone I'd call a thankless bas tard. Got a job paying $10,000.00 a month when he's not qualified to be a cashier at a grocery store. I'm not saying UC is not a crook....I can say UC is a crook with a clear conscience because UC is not paying me even $1.00 a month. I believe UC is a crook, the proof so far points to that, we have not seen the other side of the coin though. The biggest joke is....after all Kevin has BSed us...he wants us to stay together....probably he has wish for us to go after him. His jig is up and watch someone call him on it. These Tyler Tots are more unpredictable than the London weather. JMHO.
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 08:45 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804425 of 804467 (Reply to 804411 by ncmale28409)
Jump to msg. # ncmale - It's weird that when UC took him to Canada to examine the core samples he could not even cover his own meals and UC had to stop by ATM, withdrew money and handed him some CASH...and he even talked about that..LMAO...what a poor K was....What happens to those cores and why we stop asking him about those?If I were him I would feel so bad about 10K/month for accomplishing nothing since 03/2007 when he became a CEO...Questions Remain Unanswered Are: 1> Why KW did/does what he did/does 2> Who are so dumb to continue to pay him and Tyler 3> What if UC did not raise 600B shares then would we all get our certs? 4> Why J.E did what he did? I meant he's richer and smarter than UC but why he took all the risk to sell Unregistered shares and ended up UC made 1 million more than him... 5> According to Mark & Trimbath that significant FTD exists here but no one has raised their complaints about not getting their certs...How this could happen? 6> UC can be the last CROOK but I doubt it for many reasons...
GLTY & All
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 31, 2009 23:11:07 GMT -5
By: ncmale28409 31 Jan 2009, 07:18 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804411 of 804467 (Reply to 804362 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # aladin99, I doubt that. Remember he didn't even own a car when he became the CEO. Maybe a $1,000.00 is what he had in CMKX, if that. This is someone I'd call a thankless bas tard. Got a job paying $10,000.00 a month when he's not qualified to be a cashier at a grocery store. I'm not saying UC is not a crook....I can say UC is a crook with a clear conscience because UC is not paying me even $1.00 a month. I believe UC is a crook, the proof so far points to that, we have not seen the other side of the coin though. The biggest joke is....after all Kevin has BSed us...he wants us to stay together....probably he has wish for us to go after him. His jig is up and watch someone call him on it. These Tyler Tots are more unpredictable than the London weather. JMHO. By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 08:45 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804425 of 804467 (Reply to 804411 by ncmale28409) Jump to msg. # ncmale - It's weird that when UC took him to Canada to examine the core samples he could not even cover his own meals and UC had to stop by ATM, withdrew money and handed him some CASH...and he even talked about that..LMAO...what a poor K was....What happens to those cores and why we stop asking him about those?If I were him I would feel so bad about 10K/month for accomplishing nothing since 03/2007 when he became a CEO...Questions Remain Unanswered Are: 1> Why KW did/does what he did/does 2> Who are so dumb to continue to pay him and Tyler 3> What if UC did not raise 600B shares then would we all get our certs? 4> Why J.E did what he did? I meant he's richer and smarter than UC but why he took all the risk to sell Unregistered shares and ended up UC made 1 million more than him... 5> According to Mark & Trimbath that significant FTD exists here but no one has raised their complaints about not getting their certs...How this could happen? 6> UC can be the last CROOK but I doubt it for many reasons... GLTY & All By: scruffy_too 31 Jan 2009, 09:17 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804436 of 804470 (Reply to 804425 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # Interesting questions,Aladin... Have we got the correct context though? What IF, the company was indeed "hijacked" by the authorities to perform a "sting", or whatever you want to call it? We all assume that UC had the ability to steer the company the way he wanted it to go, but was that really the case? What if "getting the bad guys" was indeed officially of higher immediate priority than developing the claims and returning a ROI to the investors? What about those drill cores, eh? What gets sent for testing certainly depends upon the motivation to do so, right? Just felt that I might throw this out there, as so many seem fixed on an image of the company and its behavior, that might not be the reality(?)...
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Post by johnjrambothe2nd on Feb 1, 2009 6:12:27 GMT -5
By: vb_al 01 Feb 2009, 04:54 AM EST Rating: post rating 0 Msg. 804506 of 804508 Jump to msg. # A response to Kevin West Letter of January 30, 2009
Kevin, how about lending us your UNBIASED ear? Or should I say, how about giving us an HONEST break and tell the truth – for once.
You have the guts to speak of a “common cause” the entire time, keeping a secreted agenda away from the shareholders, lying to us on repeated occasions, failing to honor your word and engaging in what can at a minimum be considered gross negligence but more likely, world class fraud. Why would I say so?
Where the hell are the lawsuits against the brokers, bankers and market makers for their radical fraud against us? You pretend not to have any money to pursue the claims, but there is $5M sitting there with Helen Bagley’s bond that you have not even lifted a finger towards going after. There is multiple millions of dollars available Wells Fargo Bank for giving Gold Medallion Guarantees to John Edwards on blank certs, already admitted to by WFB employees, which you have knowledge of, but have not lifted a finger to get.
In spite of these available sources of funds which could fund lawsuits against the deep pockets, you and Bill Frizzell have not lifted a single finger to get them, but instead, you are going after low return lawsuits and wasting our time and precious resources, while the deep pockets are all merging into one another, going BK and ultimately, getting away. Did Patrick Byrne sue the worthless targets with Overstock or did he go after the gold? Quit pretending that you are an innocent #### that could not figure out what to do – the continued bullshjt is becoming an ever-angering insult to our intelligence.
For that matter, you have yet to confirm the shareholders even own shares of the Texas Corporation. Note the document you posted on the website this weekend, after years of displaying nothing. The last paragraph said it must be certified by the state of Texas. Where is the certification? Until we see it, we have no idea if we are even a part of CMKX Texas. If we own none of the new company, that further lends open opportunity for fraud upon the shareholders by the few insiders in control.
Further, why have your repeated actions shown to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached by taking the strength out of the term naked short (implying fraud and RICO and punitive damages) and calling it “fails to deliver” (which implies mere book keeping errors and merely recovering one’s investment). No lawyer on earth would let you weaken your case against naked short sellers by reducing the strongest language that would help force a settlement and/or best serve a lawsuit with a jury - UNLESS a settlement has been reached. In a case of fraud, a lawyer would not call the fraud a “simple misunderstanding” now would he? Patrick Byrne has not settled and what does he still call the fraud perpetrated against his company? You got it – naked shorting.
It is clear that you have signed some sort of settlement agreement in which you promised not to sue the bankers and brokers and MM’s and you would ease off the language exposing them as crooks. That is why you have done NOTHING to go after them when the opportunity has presented itself on multiple occasions.
I also take issue with the fact you have the audacity to blame Urban for everything, when you and the Tyler team have failed to take any visible action for years that have brought us any monetary relief for our aggrieved position. You have sued nobody of consequence for years, wasting our time and likely blowing the statute of limitations so we can never sue the real deep pockets in the future.
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached by the fact you have not brought CMKX to commence trading again, even though you now have $33M on the books and could force a short squeeze of Biblical proportions. A short squeeze of trillions of shares would hold the bankers accountable twice if they already settled. If you already settled, that completely explains why you have not gone back to trading to force a short cover – by the terms of a settlement agreement, you can’t!
That point leads into the next issue, unbelievably, you are deliberately letting the 45 million Entourage Shares go back to Entourage instead of doing the logical thing of seeking to distribute it to the shareholders (unable to distribute due to the NSS), filing an interpleader and exposing the NSS and forcing a settlement (indicating again, that you already settled in secret).
You have acted like some sort of overlord by taking it on yourself to appoint a new CEO and a BOD without our say and against our will (not one of them would be there if we had anything to say about it – some may have criminal records). If there are people on the board or who hold positions as officers that have criminal records, WE DEMAND FULL DISCLOSURE and IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. This is not a criminal cadre or a mafia front, we want people with a proven history of talent, experience and honor – nothing less.
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached as you are letting the bankers get away and not taking the lead of Patrick Byrne by suing them and utilizing Bagley’s and WFB’s Bonds as financial backing (again, further indicating that you have settled and can no longer sue them). A lawyer has 2 defendants equally responsible for a claim, a street bum and Donald Trump. You have let Trump go and sued the bums. It makes zero sense, UNLESS it is a scam.
You have STILL failed to adequately address the role of Robert Maheu – perhaps the most significant intelligence operative in US history (other than Bill once tossing out the bullshjt story that “Maheu was just another guy feeding from the trough.” If that was true, why you have never sued him or his estate.
Also, a greatly respected attorney in Roger Glenn is being categorized as some sort of wrongdoer in this case. Hard to believe, but if that were truth, then why have you not sued Mr Glenn and his law firm? In fact, Mr. Glenn is a partner in that firm so ALL of the partners would be open to being liable. Those defendants all by themselves would be huge. Conveniently, and greatly opposite to the bullshjt story you have promulgated to the shareholders, you have done nothing to pursue this deep pocket either.
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached as you have failed to address the Jeffries Letter which indicated a 112 B share NSS, just for Jeffries and for just a 6 month period (again, indicating further that you have settled and not divulged the truth to the SH).
You are sitting there like a moron and letting the SEC place the entire blame on penniless NevWest for all of this fraud and the “trillions” of NSS (BF quote), when it was other brokers and MM’s who did it and most importantly, the DTCC who was to blame (you are letting the deep pockets get off of the hook by letting them call them unregistered shares instead of NSS and pinning this criminality down to a penniless defendant in NevWest so we will end up getting nothing).
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached as unbelievably, you have failed to complete the cert pull – just before CMKX exposed the NSS, with trillions of uncounted shares still in your possession - which was the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE NEEDED TO COMPLETE - citing a lack of funds as why you stopped. Did you ask for help counting the certs? Why spend money on other lawsuits when this was the essential piece of the puzzle for us to recover immense amounts of money? Again Kevin, quit insulting our intelligence – it is really starting to anger us.
You have never explained what is happening with CIM, Lundin, Shore, GEMM, Newmont, or a host of other stocks used by the original team to force a settlement, again, indicating that these stocks are irrelevant as a settlement has already been reached.
I could go on with the bullshjt inconsistencies and obvious deceit that you have displayed, as your actions do not indicate a man who is merely incompetent, it indicates a man full of deceit. With the additional assistance of attorney Bill Frizzell guiding you, you should have already had more than adequate guidance to a poisition that would force a settlement or get us back to trading and do an interpleader so that a judge would order a forced buy-in and causing a short squeeze never seen before in history. You have done nothing but waste our time.
Incidentally, why have you now asked certain shareholders to sign “hold harmless” agreements regarding Deli’s shares as conditions of authorizing share transfers, when you initially endorsed these shares as “there nothing is wrong with them?”
Why do you talk to shareholders on the phone and first ask them if the phone call is being recorded… what truths do you fear being exposed Kevin?
Why is it that up to the day you took over as CEO, you were one of the people spouting the 5-8 cent per share dividend. Being that you were one of the people doing research for the company – an insider - you claimed that your knowledge was good. Now, conveniently, you claim that the entire thing was a fraud? Kevin, we are not as stupid as you hopes might foolishly lead you. Just get the hell out and quit the lies – they are really starting to infuriate this SH base.
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached as you have been quoted stating to several people – while you were CEO - that “there is no slippery slope and they (the NSS’ers) can not get away” on the naked shorting issue and that “we will win.” Gee Kevin, what happened to those positions now? Now, instead of being so assuring, you are saying we got scammed and that there is nothing there. “Bullshjt” is what I say to you and “the team.”
As for your plea to Urban, please just give us a break. Good, bad or indifferent, the actions of Urban Casavant were essential to exposing this naked short. Maheu and Glenn came in and played the role of hammer, and somehow and with obviously powerful backing, you and the Tyler gang have tried to change history and pretend it never happened. Well, it happened Kevin and Urban Casavant is NOT the scoundrel here, those who are now deceiving us are. Urban set things in motion and without a doubt, CMKM Diamonds had a massive naked short. You are pretending that this greatest asset, this most powerful tool for justice, simply does not exist. Have you have made a back-door deal with the DTCC and SEC to protect the bankers - AGAIN? This is just like the SEC protecting Wall Street 1000 times before and screwing shareholders over in favor of criminals. You expect us to have trust after all of this time and all of the proven lies of this company and the SEC? You are all transparent, fooling nobody and will most certainly be held accountable for your treachery.
Another thing, quit bullshjtting us that we are the cause of our lack of success when you have done nothing but waste our time and resources. Quit pretending that the shareholders are our own worst enemy. Deceit is our enemy and YOU in Tyler are the ones deceiving us. You and the bankers and the government and the mob have been our enemy. You have lied multiple times, acted with gross incompetence and more likely, treachery and treason to our cause.
You claim that we have been scammed. The only scamming is being done by you and the current team. Rest assured, I personally and others will follow you and the rest of the current team for the rest of your lives. We will continue to monitor your financial status and you will NEVER get to spend any money made in secret without ALWAYS having to worry about us. It is guaranteed, that no matter what you do, the worst day in your life will be remembered as the day you lied to these shareholders.
What was the payoff for this treachery Kevin? Do you really think you are going to get to enjoy it? Do your pals at the DTCC and SEC think that we will forget? I hope you are all planning a nice retirement in Antarctica because there is no place in the civilized world that you will not find us watching.
We are just beginning to awaken as a whole Kevin. Thousands of really ticked off people, consistently increasing in numbers, who are not going to take these lies anymore. Not a good thing for any of you. Know that your lies are running thin and we are seriously losing our patience.
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Post by hundredtoone on Feb 1, 2009 9:11:15 GMT -5
Don't worry...NO ONE will EVER enjoy our MONEY...I am CERTAIN of that...the evil and deceit used against US will be TEN FOLD worse for any CROOKS that took our money INCLUDING the BIG BANKERS...THEY will SUFFER GREATLY for their DECEIT...and DELI is proving it right now on a local scale...the WORLD is suffering right now because of DECIET and LIES...TYLER is NEXT IMO...the CURSE continues...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial)
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