Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 15, 2009 16:11:03 GMT -5
A reply to goodolboy for his post found here..... Hnd2Hnd signed NDA along with others...
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Posted by: HndtoHnd
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:31:49 AM
In reply to: goodolboy who wrote msg# 267791 Post # of 267936
GoodOlBoy... sorry I missed answering you on this post.
I will attempt to take it in parts and respond to each one.
Part 1:
It is extremely difficult to support current management when they consistently prove themselves incapable of anything that remotely resembles professionalism.
IMO, professionalism is based on one's actions and results. The "new" management has absolutely proven itself.
It has proven that it intends on going after the assets that were stolen from CMKM Diamonds by previous management/insiders. They have done that. At least, they filed the court documents to initiate that process. The court system is now to blame for the timeframe and the delay, not the company!
They have also proven that their announced plans to communicate with the shareholders has in fact taken place. Anyone who states otherwise has obviously not been to www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com and clicked on the "documents" tab. If they did, I doubt that they actually read each one. Most people that have read them, realize what really happened previously. And based on details(facts)within the documents explaining how previous management set up DOZENS of entities in which to transfer YOUR ROI!
The $10,000 salary is only one grotesque example of that, as well as the inability to get the address correct in it's letterhead
I am no more privy to certain information than you at this point goodolboy. That is just the way it is and I can't help that either. But my understanding through previous releases is that the salaries are deferred. Meaning not being paid currently, BUT, AND IF, any funds are ever recovered, that they (Mr Faulk, Mr West, Mr Frizzell, etc) would be entitled to receive those amounts at that time. For me personally, if they are able to get back some value for CMKM and its shareholders, then they have earned that money! If you promised to do a job for me personally on a deferred basis, and you completed that job, then why wouldn't I pay you at that time? Is not a man's word bond? Don't you want all of the companys business dealings to be completed and within the parameters of the contract regarding them?
As for the letterhead situation....I again thank Jarta for bringing that to my attention, and say this...believe it or not. I have verified that the letterhead on the documents sent to officals was correct. Somehow when that was uploaded to the CMKM website it got screwed up. Maybe from a bad copy and paste job or a "FAT FINGER" situation but in fact...the letters sent out to officals, were spell checked and everything WAS CORRECT ON THEM. End of that subject by me.
Part 2:
As for your statement about the various committees not being paid, what about those that are? What type of agreements have been made to "reward" them if anything is ever collected?
All I can personally tell you is what I know. I volunteered to assist the company in any fashion I could to help bring closure to this, one way or the other. I want justice at the minimum. I applied and they responded. I signed a NDA. It is not that big of a deal. I am not paid/compensated at all. I have NOT been given any promise of compensation. At all. Now or in the future. I was actually reminded that this is a non paid position. I cannot speak for others, but I am under the impression that we are all being handled the exact same way. NDA and no payment. Some will call me a liar or say I am protecting "Tyler". I don't care about that. I am an honest man. I have never pulled punches and I have never hidden from the shareholders.
Part 3:
What I find interesting about your post is it is the first time I've heard about the "Due Diligence Committee." It was my understanding that you were on the advisory committee along with two others, so who is on the DDC?
You are correct about me. I am on the Advisory Committee. I will not comment on how many members there are, or their identities, or anything that would violate my NDA or their trust in me. That would not show professionalism on my part and that seems to be what we all are hoping for in the end correct? Some may not be comfortable with public attention, and they just wanted to help out behind the scenes and I have to respect that. I hope others will also.
Within the Advisory/BOD group, a voluntary "Due Diligence Committee" has been established to follow up on leads and to research avenues that would help the company move forward as they present themselves. Like the name implies, DD. We all know and love that term don't we? It is nothing out of the ordinary, but AGAIN...a volunteering of extra time in order to assist. Non paid also for the record.
Part 4:
People do not have to be PRO-TYLER(i.e., Mark, Kevin & Bill). No one is asking that. What we are asking is that ALL SHAREHOLDERS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMPANY AND BE PRO CMKM!! Big difference. I own many stocks that have people in charge I don't like personally. But I like the company or product/potential that they have. I can live with personalities, but not criminals. I will not be a part of any criminally backed operation Goodolboy.
I think the asking of the shareholders of CMKM DIAMONDS to sign a petition for JUSTICE is a perfect example of what I am saying. The petition is not Pro Tyler, Pro Faulk or Pro anyone else. Just Pro JUSTICE and Pro CMKM SHAREHOLDERS! As a shareholder, I would, no I AM DOING whatever I can to help get the company moving again. Hopefully someday we will have a "widget" to sell or a service to provide, and the company will flourish for real this time. The shareholders deserve that. We also deserve to have a ROI and Justice for what has occurred to us. Will we ever have that? I am not sure. But as long as certain groups keep feeding lies and non truths to the boards, and as long as the attention is diverted away from the real criminals who did this to us, it will be a hard uphill battle.
I also want the Naked Short Selling or "Fails to Deliver" to be addressed. And I personally suspect that at the right time, it will be. But many things happen at a snails pace and many things must wait until such time that it is financially sound to attack them.
I hope I have answered your questions in a manner that you can respect and understand. Again, I personally am not privy to all information and never will be I am sure, but if I can help, I will try.
Respectfully,
Barry aka HndtoHnd
P.S. I have spell checked this post twice and read it twice in order to insure it is up to standards. If I failed...please remember that it is Sunday morning and this is not what I would prefer to be doing at all. lol Peace~
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Posted by: HndtoHnd
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:31:49 AM
In reply to: goodolboy who wrote msg# 267791 Post # of 267936
GoodOlBoy... sorry I missed answering you on this post.
I will attempt to take it in parts and respond to each one.
Part 1:
It is extremely difficult to support current management when they consistently prove themselves incapable of anything that remotely resembles professionalism.
IMO, professionalism is based on one's actions and results. The "new" management has absolutely proven itself.
It has proven that it intends on going after the assets that were stolen from CMKM Diamonds by previous management/insiders. They have done that. At least, they filed the court documents to initiate that process. The court system is now to blame for the timeframe and the delay, not the company!
They have also proven that their announced plans to communicate with the shareholders has in fact taken place. Anyone who states otherwise has obviously not been to www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com and clicked on the "documents" tab. If they did, I doubt that they actually read each one. Most people that have read them, realize what really happened previously. And based on details(facts)within the documents explaining how previous management set up DOZENS of entities in which to transfer YOUR ROI!
The $10,000 salary is only one grotesque example of that, as well as the inability to get the address correct in it's letterhead
I am no more privy to certain information than you at this point goodolboy. That is just the way it is and I can't help that either. But my understanding through previous releases is that the salaries are deferred. Meaning not being paid currently, BUT, AND IF, any funds are ever recovered, that they (Mr Faulk, Mr West, Mr Frizzell, etc) would be entitled to receive those amounts at that time. For me personally, if they are able to get back some value for CMKM and its shareholders, then they have earned that money! If you promised to do a job for me personally on a deferred basis, and you completed that job, then why wouldn't I pay you at that time? Is not a man's word bond? Don't you want all of the companys business dealings to be completed and within the parameters of the contract regarding them?
As for the letterhead situation....I again thank Jarta for bringing that to my attention, and say this...believe it or not. I have verified that the letterhead on the documents sent to officals was correct. Somehow when that was uploaded to the CMKM website it got screwed up. Maybe from a bad copy and paste job or a "FAT FINGER" situation but in fact...the letters sent out to officals, were spell checked and everything WAS CORRECT ON THEM. End of that subject by me.
Part 2:
As for your statement about the various committees not being paid, what about those that are? What type of agreements have been made to "reward" them if anything is ever collected?
All I can personally tell you is what I know. I volunteered to assist the company in any fashion I could to help bring closure to this, one way or the other. I want justice at the minimum. I applied and they responded. I signed a NDA. It is not that big of a deal. I am not paid/compensated at all. I have NOT been given any promise of compensation. At all. Now or in the future. I was actually reminded that this is a non paid position. I cannot speak for others, but I am under the impression that we are all being handled the exact same way. NDA and no payment. Some will call me a liar or say I am protecting "Tyler". I don't care about that. I am an honest man. I have never pulled punches and I have never hidden from the shareholders.
Part 3:
What I find interesting about your post is it is the first time I've heard about the "Due Diligence Committee." It was my understanding that you were on the advisory committee along with two others, so who is on the DDC?
You are correct about me. I am on the Advisory Committee. I will not comment on how many members there are, or their identities, or anything that would violate my NDA or their trust in me. That would not show professionalism on my part and that seems to be what we all are hoping for in the end correct? Some may not be comfortable with public attention, and they just wanted to help out behind the scenes and I have to respect that. I hope others will also.
Within the Advisory/BOD group, a voluntary "Due Diligence Committee" has been established to follow up on leads and to research avenues that would help the company move forward as they present themselves. Like the name implies, DD. We all know and love that term don't we? It is nothing out of the ordinary, but AGAIN...a volunteering of extra time in order to assist. Non paid also for the record.
Part 4:
People do not have to be PRO-TYLER(i.e., Mark, Kevin & Bill). No one is asking that. What we are asking is that ALL SHAREHOLDERS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMPANY AND BE PRO CMKM!! Big difference. I own many stocks that have people in charge I don't like personally. But I like the company or product/potential that they have. I can live with personalities, but not criminals. I will not be a part of any criminally backed operation Goodolboy.
I think the asking of the shareholders of CMKM DIAMONDS to sign a petition for JUSTICE is a perfect example of what I am saying. The petition is not Pro Tyler, Pro Faulk or Pro anyone else. Just Pro JUSTICE and Pro CMKM SHAREHOLDERS! As a shareholder, I would, no I AM DOING whatever I can to help get the company moving again. Hopefully someday we will have a "widget" to sell or a service to provide, and the company will flourish for real this time. The shareholders deserve that. We also deserve to have a ROI and Justice for what has occurred to us. Will we ever have that? I am not sure. But as long as certain groups keep feeding lies and non truths to the boards, and as long as the attention is diverted away from the real criminals who did this to us, it will be a hard uphill battle.
I also want the Naked Short Selling or "Fails to Deliver" to be addressed. And I personally suspect that at the right time, it will be. But many things happen at a snails pace and many things must wait until such time that it is financially sound to attack them.
I hope I have answered your questions in a manner that you can respect and understand. Again, I personally am not privy to all information and never will be I am sure, but if I can help, I will try.
Respectfully,
Barry aka HndtoHnd
P.S. I have spell checked this post twice and read it twice in order to insure it is up to standards. If I failed...please remember that it is Sunday morning and this is not what I would prefer to be doing at all. lol Peace~