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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 22, 2014 3:53:05 GMT -5
.Never saw anyone work so hard at posting "truth", "opinion", whatever...... reposting over and over & over again, numerous documents, news articles and opinions to tell/convince the rest, of the shareholders, EXACTLY what has happened, is happening, will happen (and its not good) regarding the "saga", of CMKX. The only person who has ALL the answers?? And I am ONLY talking about the current One thread overrun, on the MM board.
ALL the answers?? Turn out the lights ?? GO home?? Now What..... ??
dyemenz DIAMOND JEDI Post by dyemenz on 10 hours ago
Have read that article & others about Janice Shell, she's never meant much to me. Vng, a few others & myself are Cyber Markers who actually paid significant money compared to, 00005, 0001 or .001 for our shares & they were registered, unlike those who came in under Urban & not the fault of the shareholders. If anyone has what I will call a right, for lack of a better word, maybe interest in the true facts is better worded, of what happened here, it naturally would be us. Until some type of justice is created for the shareholders. Someone who bought 3 weeks ago will only rely on the $11 or $7+, whatever it is, ROI part.
Unlike Janice Shell, as a researcher among the others, have spent years turning over every rock possible for recovery back into this company. The assets Mr. Kirkpatrick seeks & present litigation, we worked on, for every shareholder. If anything materializes it will have been accomplished by a concerted effort. Promises of trusts and payments the company cannot live on & have indicated such. Many other shareholders have tried also to obtain information in orchestrated groups such as the private investigator Cody, Mr. Fryar or currently Mr. Gates without success in finding a trust. So it has been many trying to solve these puzzles over the many years.
It might appear that the shareholder base or those in the know aren't aware of the enormous convertible debt which plagued our company, its workings or its detriment? Even though it's been mentioned in our litigation after its discovery upon different management coming in. It's what they wanted to hide from shareholders in failure to report. It's nick named the kiss of death, for a reason.
Even exhibit 17 mentions naked shorting one time I think, the premise of convertible debt is based on shorting stocks because Edwards used Bonds, which he gave to Helen & makes it Registered Debt, to convert into common shares. If you have a full understanding of their debt agreement Urban signed & knowledge of what convertible debt really is, which Leslie Hakala did, it brings a whole lot more into light & further complicates, what is what. The SEC revoked CMKM for failure to report & enlisted, as required the DOJ, due the massive criminal behavior, as the SEC is only able to conduct matters in a civil court.
I am not saying naked shorting doesn't exist but pointing out the type of financing Urban obtained & agreed upon, creates unbridled shorting from the holders, along with ex trading & ex clearing privileges extended to them.
Quite simply since neither Mr. Kirkpatrick nor Mr. Frizzell are able to substantiate anything ever done for the benefit of shareholders either, only Mr. Hodges, or perhaps Mr. Cottrell seem to be able to advise further regarding the trust & that's how it stands.
Even though that seems somewhat phenomenal & somewhat extraordinarily limited to me at times, Mr. Hodges wrote last December of 2013 "I did not begin this quest out of a sense of arrogance, power madness, or other such motive; I began this quest because of the vacuum that existed. After some reflection I began to appreciate that I might be the only substantial shareholder with the proper mix of professional skill, investigative skill, intellectual impetus and stimulus, and where-with-all to pursue it. I do not intend to recite here the efforts and travails of the intervening years; some have already been published – the rest will have to await another time."
And that's where we are.
When we contacted attorney John M. O'Quinn for help, he declined, stating "CMKM was just a scam" being among other, no less than 10, headliner firms contacted, declining to take CMKM's case. Mr. O'Quinn was certainly qualified in his legal specifications & field to make that determination, he did not want the case. I believe Abad contacted him also. My posts include information the average shareholder will not see everyday but think it's time & should have some access, due the complexities in determining what has & is going on. It's a lack of fact which makes it harder.
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Post by JoeRockss on Oct 23, 2014 13:48:05 GMT -5
redcat3 DIAMOND JEDI *** Post by redcat3 on 23 hours ago
I'm in a fog after reading Faulk's interview with IBM.
IBM states he was brought into the company to get them to full compliance and was not told about any STING set up by the SEC. He resigned a short time later when he was informed the numbers could not be attained that would bring the Company into full compliance. He stayed on the Task Force but was not involved with any negotiations for a settlement on behalf of the shareholders which would have set up the trust we all believe exists.
If that's true, he was not at the "meeting" and his son does not have any involvement in the trust.
I don't know how to bring that post to this thread. It was posted by taskforceviking on 9/19/09.
I'm in shock. If he wasn't involved in the negotiations, who was? Did AH get involved with the company prior to that meeting?
Holy Moley,
Mrs. Redcat
144r DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD ***** Post by 144r on 18 hours ago
One thing for sure, IBM would never admit to ANYTHING ANYTIME that was his "style" With him we'll never know unless he left us book.
True license will stay like that until renewed right up to the last minute, typical with any corp.
ines DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD I read that number of times.. Before Mark Faulk's book was to come out.. "someone" or he himself leaked it out.. anyway there was a link for it.. so I had it printed out .. and I still have it, and I even had it downloaded..
anyway... I read it plenty of times.. and I wrote on the subject at the time.
His line of questioning was ridiculous.. it was not an interview that was seeking answers, or pointing to discrepancies.. it was an interview that wanted to come to a certain conclusion and conclusion was.. the Tyler gang presentation.
Now why Maheu agreed to it? and why he did not address the shareholders in any time between he left cmkx and before this interview?
In any case... imo the interview was a BS.
We wrote about it alot over the years.. At this point.. I don't think I want to repeat all the things I objected to.. you might as well just not pay attention to it. It was not worth it. Basically what Port said..
"We're all about No Fear of Failure here
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2014 18:44:56 GMT -5
My favorite quote by Maheu.....
"If you say Bob Maheu brought you into this, that I was your contact man, I'll say you're off your rocker, you're lying, you're trying to save your hide. I'll swear by everything holy that I don't know what in hell you're talking about."
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Oct 24, 2014 18:50:24 GMT -5
My favorite quote by Maheu..... "If you say Bob Maheu brought you into this, that I was your contact man, I'll say you're off your rocker, you're lying, you're trying to save your hide. I'll swear by everything holy that I don't know what in hell you're talking about." You got to love it... The man was in a class of his own..
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Post by JoeRockss on Oct 28, 2014 3:25:59 GMT -5
My favorite quote by Maheu..... "If you say Bob Maheu brought you into this, that I was your contact man, I'll say you're off your rocker, you're lying, you're trying to save your hide. I'll swear by everything holy that I don't know what in hell you're talking about." You got to love it... The man was in a class of his own..Hopefully his son is of the same "class." And hopefully the old man handed down a slam dunk.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 31, 2014 10:22:05 GMT -5
#2077863 nhhinow 12 hours ago
Remember that CMKM had no business operations and no revenues or income but was able to appoint Maheu as co-chairman of CMKM Diamonds....Maheu plus voluntarily forfeited his $40,000 per month salary...
Now TA is doing the same thing for us which is very interesting!
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Oct 31, 2014 10:26:40 GMT -5
#2077863 nhhinow 12 hours ago Remember that CMKM had no business operations and no revenues or income but was able to appoint Maheu as co-chairman of CMKM Diamonds....Maheu plus voluntarily forfeited his $40,000 per month salary... Now TA is doing the same thing for us which is very interesting! Do you know what else is VERY INTERESTING..? That we are all still waiting..
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Post by JoeRockss on Nov 4, 2014 7:53:53 GMT -5
portrush Administrator ******* Posts: 13,365 16 hours ago snifferpup, nandi and 1 more like this. Post by portrush on 16 hours ago I don't think it really matters anymore...at least not to me. Just the same, this is exactly what I would expect. Thanks to FOIA, we've already seen documentation that Maheu's firm was a front for the Company. Seems to me, the Gov would never / could never be publicly complicit in anything related to this company. I hold the researchers and findings with respect for their unselfish and seemingly untiring work. I hope SK compensates them at some point, their efforts are surely worthy of hire. But I don't think anything found will be something that wasn't intended to be found. Anything not found will be intended not to be found. If it was easy, it wouldn't seem realistic. I could be wrong, but this how this all shakes out for me.
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goldengriff DIAMOND DIGGER 14 hours ago Duc N Altum likes this. The government hires individuals, groups, corporations to carry out their clandestine operations so if the operations go bad the government can't be implicated. One of the best and most popular disguise and protection of the government and its operative is "shell companies"
That is a fact, not an opinion
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 24, 2014 19:44:07 GMT -5
bigdog DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Post by bigdog on 23 hours ago
Boy it seems Fizzie was talking a great game when the shareholders money was flowing. My how the worm turns.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 29, 2014 21:26:50 GMT -5
8 hours ago gangusgreen said: Enlightening research. It pretty much seems as if we are SCREWED here if we think there will be ANY value in our stock certs by means of trading. And it make me wonder the 100,000 dollar question. What about Al Hodges claims of a "trust" be out there. If your research shows the dire state of our company and Bob Mahue's involvement(which it looks more and more like he was not here for us shareholders and more for someone else) it kind of looks like once the trials is over for the insiders we will be left out in the cold. I am sorry if this sounds negative but it sure seems that the little research that Dyemenz has put out in this tread seems to point to a BIG shareholder screwing. I for one would like to see some proof of a trust but my hopes of there being one for us is quickly going dark. All IMHO Gangus
ines DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD 6 hours ago The problem for me Gangus is that I don't even trust the "research" or the documents.
Reason why?
Because things can always be set up to look a certain way. You know.. you omit things you don't want people to see, and you show them what you want them to see.. and that changes the whole picture.
For example look at SEC and cmkx.
None of the information pertaining to naked short.. and banks and brokers etc.. and their participation has gone out to the public. Trading records.. etc..
cert pull records?
So just how SEC and government and financial establishment can show only what they want to show.. and they have.. same goes for the rest of the story.
This is the exact reason why we are discussing things on Bob Maheu.. and Stoecklein.. and interview with mark faulk.. and signing off claims in Stoeckleins office.. because >>> we have some history on that.. we know a bit who said what.. and we have some knowledge of what was going on with cmkx.. while these people were there.
I will tell you another thing... SEC got involved with cmkx.. and tyler gang took over. They got free hands.. and SEC blessing as long as they will behave according to their script.
Did we all not find it ODD that Mark faulk is NSS activist.. but would not want to talk about that in cmkx? I did.
Another thing is.. do not think for a second.. that Frizzell did not see a cash cow in this .. and that him and maybe some other people had a huge Interest in this.. also.. I know of couple of things.. and I know that Frizzell was definitely hiding/protecting his friends.. while he was putting some other people under the bus.. for the same involvement..
Tyler gang.. basically had no problem lying.. especially to those that were their followers. They lied.. and threatened people that were exposing some of those lies.
What it comes down to.. maybe there was just A lot of Money interest in this whole situation.. and different people had different interests for themselves. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When things do not fit.. I can not trust anything.. until they do fit.. but they don't. So .. even the "documents" etc etc.. that we have been fed.. I don't trust. SEC is famous for Feeding out only what they want others to see, and how they want it to be seen.
They have no problem lying.. omitting stuff.. and painting the picture that suits them. When it comes to a lot of things .. I think that Tyler management is in bed with SEC..
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Post by gabbyhayes on Nov 29, 2014 23:04:10 GMT -5
OK. *&^% it all…let's all go to bed and forget this cluster $#^&….we were scammed…this is totally BS….and let's go home…closure at last….why stay ?…you've given up!!!…really….you guys give me heartburn……I'm going back to lurking………..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 14, 2014 9:02:02 GMT -5
Never saw anyone work so hard at posting "truth", "opinion", whatever...... reposting over and over & over again, numerous documents, news articles and opinions to tell/convince the rest, of the shareholders, EXACTLY what has happened, is happening, will happen (and its not good) regarding the "saga", of CMKX. The only person who has ALL the answers?? And I am ONLY talking about the current One thread overrun, on the MM board.
ALL the answers?? Turn out the lights ?? GO home?? Now What..... ?? dyemenz DIAMOND JEDI Post by dyemenz on 10 hours agoHave read that article & others about Janice Shell, she's never meant much to me. Vng, a few others & myself are Cyber Markers who actually paid significant money compared to, 00005, 0001 or .001 for our shares & they were registered, unlike those who came in under Urban & not the fault of the shareholders. If anyone has what I will call a right, for lack of a better word, maybe interest in the true facts is better worded, of what happened here, it naturally would be us. Until some type of justice is created for the shareholders. Someone who bought 3 weeks ago will only rely on the $11 or $7+, whatever it is, ROI part. Unlike Janice Shell, as a researcher among the others, have spent years turning over every rock possible for recovery back into this company. The assets Mr. Kirkpatrick seeks & present litigation, we worked on, for every shareholder. If anything materializes it will have been accomplished by a concerted effort. Promises of trusts and payments the company cannot live on & have indicated such. Many other shareholders have tried also to obtain information in orchestrated groups such as the private investigator Cody, Mr. Fryar or currently Mr. Gates without success in finding a trust. So it has been many trying to solve these puzzles over the many years. It might appear that the shareholder base or those in the know aren't aware of the enormous convertible debt which plagued our company, its workings or its detriment? Even though it's been mentioned in our litigation after its discovery upon different management coming in. It's what they wanted to hide from shareholders in failure to report. It's nick named the kiss of death, for a reason. Even exhibit 17 mentions naked shorting one time I think, the premise of convertible debt is based on shorting stocks because Edwards used Bonds, which he gave to Helen & makes it Registered Debt, to convert into common shares. If you have a full understanding of their debt agreement Urban signed & knowledge of what convertible debt really is, which Leslie Hakala did, it brings a whole lot more into light & further complicates, what is what. The SEC revoked CMKM for failure to report & enlisted, as required the DOJ, due the massive criminal behavior, as the SEC is only able to conduct matters in a civil court. I am not saying naked shorting doesn't exist but pointing out the type of financing Urban obtained & agreed upon, creates unbridled shorting from the holders, along with ex trading & ex clearing privileges extended to them. Quite simply since neither Mr. Kirkpatrick nor Mr. Frizzell are able to substantiate anything ever done for the benefit of shareholders either, only Mr. Hodges, or perhaps Mr. Cottrell seem to be able to advise further regarding the trust & that's how it stands. Even though that seems somewhat phenomenal & somewhat extraordinarily limited to me at times, Mr. Hodges wrote last December of 2013 "I did not begin this quest out of a sense of arrogance, power madness, or other such motive; I began this quest because of the vacuum that existed. After some reflection I began to appreciate that I might be the only substantial shareholder with the proper mix of professional skill, investigative skill, intellectual impetus and stimulus, and where-with-all to pursue it. I do not intend to recite here the efforts and travails of the intervening years; some have already been published – the rest will have to await another time." And that's where we are. When we contacted attorney John M. O'Quinn for help, he declined, stating "CMKM was just a scam" being among other, no less than 10, headliner firms contacted, declining to take CMKM's case. Mr. O'Quinn was certainly qualified in his legal specifications & field to make that determination, he did not want the case. I believe Abad contacted him also. My posts include information the average shareholder will not see everyday but think it's time & should have some access, due the complexities in determining what has & is going on. It's a lack of fact which makes it harder. Dec 12, 2014 at 3:01pm dyemenz said:In Marco Glisson's deposition with the SEC made public years ago, Marco stated he owned a whopping 5 million shares of CMKM. 1/27/2010. Which he dumps as Marco is still selling Urban shares in 2010. If Marco and Urban don't even want these shares, after everything they have told shareholders about their worth, it might be something for shareholders to think about? ines DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Dec 12, 2014 at 6:54pm Ok now I am surprised.. that you would write what you did. I don't know what is the date on this document but I would like to see it. If this is the date, then even more what I am talking about is right. 1/27/2010. and I say I am surprised that you wrote the conclusion that you did.. because I have a hard time imagining that you omitted any info relating to that situation. We have heard on the boards.. that Marco got rid of his shares in his name when SEC went after him and that he put it in his new wife's name. We have even heard that the second time he went out to sell shares.. that it already was all in her name and not his. Another thing that could be optional is also.. that his shares could be in a trust.. so again it would not be in his name... maybe in a trust name.. maybe he is beneficiary.. but not in charge of it.. bottom line.. not in his name or that he is in charge of it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I find the conclusion to be misleading.. specially for a DD person.. I would be highly surprised you did not hear the rumors/talk/info on the boards.. Specially that the dd people you know.. for sure would also be following all the events with him and all the dd on him.. I find it very very very doubtfull.. that if so many people on the boards have heard this.. that it would be secret to you and other people you know to be DD group. for that reason, I find the highlighted portion in yellow to be very misleading. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Point being.. just to make it flat out transparent,.. for somebody that should know these things.. would not write a conclusion like that.. because that would be manipulative. if he did not have shares in his name.. for sure it would be because he was in trouble already and he did not want to have them in his name.. as he knew that Sec is coming after him.. that was so widespread on the boards.. that information.. and talk about that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I just called a shareholder friend.. just on the boards.. to confirm if this person also heard the info I am talking about and off course yes.. this shareholder even thinks it was posted on the boards.. so really this was not a secret at all.. so ,.,. to think about it? I would never think that he did not want them at all.. once he realized that .. he is being hunted he just did not want anything in his name. That's a different reason.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 26, 2014 20:22:01 GMT -5
WorkaHolic DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Dec 24, 2014 at 1:34pm via the ProBoards App Treadstone, diamondcg and 8 more like this. Post by WorkaHolic on Dec 24, 2014 at 1:34pm
DD,
The frustration gets to everyone. In the spirit of Christmas we need to stop and share some love to the people we care about and leave the regrets in the stockings.
Merry Christmas. I'm enjoying the holidays without $50,000,000 in my checking account.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 27, 2014 11:35:11 GMT -5
golden11020 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Dec 24, 2014 at 12:02am portrush, ontheroad and 4 more like this. Post by golden11020 on Dec 24, 2014 at 12:02amIf you believe in the "sting" theory, which I personally do, you need to understand this whole thing is considered an "investigation" . . .The whole thing. You're not going to see what you are looking for until indictments start to fly (or if plea deals are met . . .And then, you see nothing but payment) IMO golden
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Post by vulcanized crawler on Dec 27, 2014 11:44:40 GMT -5
only 50 million slight? you need more shares. lol. merry christmas belated all....and happy new year. gimme 20 dolla gimme 20 dolla gimme 20 dolla...HAIL VICTORY...PARA LA VICTORIA..2015
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