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Post by ohiogirl on Mar 5, 2021 14:33:36 GMT -5
It's a prime example of our government at work. I could care less about the 25.00 or less, the question is are they going to keep the case open because of the Russian? By keeping it open indefinitely if there were other funds somewhere else, then that too could be held indefinitely?
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Post by bodrodz1 on Mar 5, 2021 14:44:37 GMT -5
At this point in time, it would be nice if Al Hodges would make one last appearance if for nothing more than to turn the lights off. I'd take a song from him before the fat lady. Almost forgot, and how about Peter Mahue, he could lock the gate and throw away the key. Maybe, maybe not.
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Post by portrush on Mar 5, 2021 14:45:23 GMT -5
As I live and breathe I never thought I would ever find it appropriate to quote that empty barrel of a politician Maxine Watters, but...from today forward I will be focusing on: "Reclaiming my time."  |
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Post by raidermike99 on Mar 5, 2021 14:49:31 GMT -5
I would like to know how much the govt spent on this case
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Post by stormgrey on Mar 5, 2021 14:49:48 GMT -5
Ok, so we never really expected the primary source of any significant money to be that which was recovered by the D.O.J. so what has changed???
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Post by portrush on Mar 5, 2021 14:53:29 GMT -5
Perception. But your point is inarguably valid. |
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Post by vegashousehunter on Mar 5, 2021 14:59:29 GMT -5
Oddly, I find myself somewhat bolstered by the town hall today. I was never looking for significant money to come from this restitution process. IF the story line we have been told all these years is to actually play out, then we would be looking for a “very small” initial payout from a government agency. We were told not to be discouraged by this and that this initial payout would open the gates for the larger issuance of the F&P and the Trust release. If this is true, then the whole court dealings would be for airtight closure in the public eye. This is what I saw today.
I was pleased to see that nothing they said was in direct conflict with the story line we have heard all these years as I remember it. The DOJ is never going to associate naked shorting with us in a public setting and they didn’t here. Wasn’t the reason the brokers paid up to avoid prosecution? You can’t exactly have that deal and then admit it happened in a public forum. Nor can you acknowledge the existence of a trust without opening yourself up to questions regarding that trust.
I also find it interesting all the players who were addressed as being dead. These complicit players are excused from paying any funds back because they were dead. If you agreed to participate in a scheme such as this, wouldn’t you demand a bullet proof exit plan prior to entering into such an agreement? Odd, isn’t it that this case went on for SO long with these “guilty” parties doing so little time and paying so little of the ill-gotten gains back?
Regarding closure of the case, I also find it odd that they are pursuing the restitution process at all if they (the DOJ) are planning on doing anything about prosecuting Vissokovsky (sp?). Why do this if you may have to do it all over again upon his prosecution.
I am happy to see something we have been told for so long would happen ACTUALLY happen.
All of this is based on my personal interpretation and feeble memory. Of course, this is in my opinion only. I will now take off my tinfoil hat and go about life as I have for the last 16+, planning on nothing but hoping for the best!
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Post by portrush on Mar 5, 2021 15:24:06 GMT -5
Oddly, I find myself somewhat bolstered by the town hall today. I was never looking for significant money to come from this restitution process. IF the story line we have been told all these years is to actually play out, then we would be looking for a “very small” initial payout from a government agency. We were told not to be discouraged by this and that this initial payout would open the gates for the larger issuance of the F&P and the Trust release. If this is true, then the whole court dealings would be for airtight closure in the public eye. This is what I saw today. I was pleased to see that nothing they said was in direct conflict with the story line we have heard all these years as I remember it. The DOJ is never going to associate naked shorting with us in a public setting and they didn’t here. Wasn’t the reason the brokers paid up to avoid prosecution? You can’t exactly have that deal and then admit it happened in a public forum. Nor can you acknowledge the existence of a trust with opening yourself up to questions regarding that trust. I also find it interesting all the players who were addressed as being dead. These complicit players are excused from paying any funds back because they were dead. If you agreed to participate in a scheme such as this, wouldn’t you demand a bullet proof exit plan prior to entering into such an agreement? Odd, isn’t it that this case went on for SO long with these “guilty” parties doing so little time and paying so little of the ill-gotten gains back? Regarding closure of the case, I also find it odd that they are pursuing the restitution process at all if they (the DOJ) are planning on doing anything about prosecuting Vissokovsky (sp?). Why do this if you may have to do it all over again upon his prosecution. I am happy to see something we have been told for so long would happen ACTUALLY happen. All of this is based on my personal interpretation and feeble memory. Of course, this is in my opinion only. I will now take off my tinfoil hat and go about life as I have for the last 16+, planning on nothing but hoping for the best! I appreciate this perspective. It has done much to shake the cobwebs for me. I can find no fault with "I was pleased to see that nothing they said was in direct conflict with the story line we have heard all these years as I remember it. The DOJ is never going to associate naked shorting with us in a public setting and they didn’t here. Wasn’t the reason the brokers paid up to avoid prosecution? You can’t exactly have that deal and then admit it happened in a public forum. Nor can you acknowledge the existence of a trust with opening yourself up to questions regarding that trust." |
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Post by candleman on Mar 5, 2021 16:10:36 GMT -5
Port: You have given more to this journey than most, Since BobH's passing, you and Harv have been bright spots for us all. If for no other reason, we have stuck together through this for more than a decade. Let's find a purpose to keep stronger together....whether our ultimate goal is realized or not, I have been blessed by many on this board as well as 1MM. This information today is not unexpected, as some have recognized. Regardless, this has kept us as a group through many rough times, and we have persevered. Let us find a new path. Perhaps a "Pay It Forward" movement, we could raise awareness and/or funds for worthwhile causes ......LET'S BRAINSTORM! Let's stay together.
Candle
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Post by arthur12 on Mar 5, 2021 18:56:11 GMT -5
$25.00...I will grab 6 boxes of Twinkies @ $3.89 a box coming to a total of $23.34 and with the rest of the change I have left I will get 2 packs of CMKX Gum...The kind that chewed us shareholders up and spit us out...
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Post by makersmark on Mar 5, 2021 21:00:38 GMT -5
Oddly, I find myself somewhat bolstered by the town hall today. I was never looking for significant money to come from this restitution process. IF the story line we have been told all these years is to actually play out, then we would be looking for a “very small” initial payout from a government agency. We were told not to be discouraged by this and that this initial payout would open the gates for the larger issuance of the F&P and the Trust release. If this is true, then the whole court dealings would be for airtight closure in the public eye. This is what I saw today. I was pleased to see that nothing they said was in direct conflict with the story line we have heard all these years as I remember it. The DOJ is never going to associate naked shorting with us in a public setting and they didn’t here. Wasn’t the reason the brokers paid up to avoid prosecution? You can’t exactly have that deal and then admit it happened in a public forum. Nor can you acknowledge the existence of a trust with opening yourself up to questions regarding that trust. I also find it interesting all the players who were addressed as being dead. These complicit players are excused from paying any funds back because they were dead. If you agreed to participate in a scheme such as this, wouldn’t you demand a bullet proof exit plan prior to entering into such an agreement? Odd, isn’t it that this case went on for SO long with these “guilty” parties doing so little time and paying so little of the ill-gotten gains back? Regarding closure of the case, I also find it odd that they are pursuing the restitution process at all if they (the DOJ) are planning on doing anything about prosecuting Vissokovsky (sp?). Why do this if you may have to do it all over again upon his prosecution. I am happy to see something we have been told for so long would happen ACTUALLY happen. All of this is based on my personal interpretation and feeble memory. Of course, this is in my opinion only. I will now take off my tinfoil hat and go about life as I have for the last 16+, planning on nothing but hoping for the best! I appreciate this perspective. It has done much to shake the cobwebs for me. I can find no fault with "I was pleased to see that nothing they said was in direct conflict with the story line we have heard all these years as I remember it. The DOJ is never going to associate naked shorting with us in a public setting and they didn’t here. Wasn’t the reason the brokers paid up to avoid prosecution? You can’t exactly have that deal and then admit it happened in a public forum. Nor can you acknowledge the existence of a trust with opening yourself up to questions regarding that trust."Hello Portrush. Hope all is well aside from the disappointing doj. I appreciate your efforts and also your updates from Mr. Hodges. I still having a real hard time that after everything Al Hodges claimed and said ..... We won. Payment is imminent. All the updates. Ect Ect. There's nothing more from anyone connected to Al? I get it why the DOJ doesn't want to admit to anything. I just don't understand. Al is sick and it seems like our dream is over. Sorry. I bought it all. I'm just so confused. Any insight would be great. Just to add to this. As much as I would frustrated with Al at times I wish him well. A man who talks about opening a bank when he gets his money obviously is pretty d*mn convinced its coming. I wish he had a representative to at least tell us whats up on his end. And lastly....... Even if maybe he made a mistake I don't mind hearing that either. We all make mistakes. |
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Post by grog113 on Mar 5, 2021 21:01:50 GMT -5
I myself am willing to wait. What can i lose at this point. So the cert's that we have are still valid with the stock exchange even if the company was delisted. Correct?
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Post by makersmark on Mar 5, 2021 21:37:47 GMT -5
I myself am willing to wait. What can i lose at this point. So the cert's that we have are still valid with the stock exchange even if the company was delisted. Correct? I hear you. |
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Post by moneybelt on Mar 6, 2021 9:14:35 GMT -5
I was happy to hear the DOJ speaker, say that the Restitution payment would start the last of April 2021.
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Post by grog113 on Mar 6, 2021 9:14:49 GMT -5
So let's put things in perspective.
1- The certs were de listed.
2- The Company is no longer around.
3- Everyone involved in the beginning is no longer around. {to my knowledge}
4- All the money was supposedly put into accounts that could not be distributed until the right time. From what i remember.
5- Now, everyone involved does not have contact with these accounts because they are gone.
6- So who knows anything about these accounts? Due to the fact i have not been around for about 8yrs.
7- My friend had passed about 1.5 yrs ago and i was curious since he got me into this mess. HAHA
8- How many people have died and were harassed and threatened, Lawyers and others researching this so called Company that had nothing to it. Hmm
9- Now, we are told this? Now this all is coming together.
10- Portrush is right.
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