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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:14:05 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 09 Dec 2007, 07:45 PM EST Msg. 630800 of 630824 Jump to msg. # IMHO- Tigerpaw was smart enough to see how the shareholders were being used, and backed off. Give it a rest. He shared some great information. Too bad you missed it. It would be even better if we could roll back time and play the source a little as I doubt it would have slowed this mule any more than it is already, but what is done is done. Let's see it ALREADY.
Oil
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:14:43 GMT -5
By: abadgoodgirl 09 Dec 2007, 08:15 PM EST Msg. 630821 of 630824 Jump to msg. # The US Capital Markets shoulder the blame for the NSS and that is a fact.
The US had a catastrophic failure of regulatory oversight...the SEC presided over the destruction of as many as an estimated 5,000 companies.
The United States Federal (not really federal) Reserve knew in 1987 that it had a problem with the clearing and settlement system.
The Federal Reserve knew it needed to move to delivery versus payment...because of un-delivered securities.
The SEC knew this.
The Senate Banking Committee knew this.
The Bank of NY knew this.
And yet? Daylight credit continued to be extended. Delivery versus payment was NOT implemented; and the lending of securities by the DTCC was infinite in its operating system to settle securities transactions.
The monumental wrong has nothing to do with urban.. he doesn't run the Federal Reserve, the DTCC, the NSCC, the DTC or the SEC or Congress.
Keep your focus on the culprits.. the criminals... and remain focused on those who deliberately allowed the crime to be committed.
Your next question should be who did this to the US system.. yes the crime was facilitated by those in the US Capital Market system.. but WHO did the crime?
Was it a country who figured out the loophole? Was it a rogue bunch of traders the world over who pushed the buttons? Who committed the crime? We know how it was done. We know who facilitated the crime. Who committed the crime? And think BIG.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:15:23 GMT -5
By: dblwmtolle 09 Dec 2007, 07:59 PM EST Msg. 630809 of 630826 Jump to msg. # Come on gurus, let's see what you got. You have been hit 3 times right between the eyes. By whom? The ceo of the company? Oh, he is a nobody. He is in no position to know anything. Only you gurus are enlightened. Yeah, right. - - - - -
By: mike777 09 Dec 2007, 08:07 PM EST Msg. 630817 of 630826 (This msg. is a reply to 630809 by dblwmtolle.) Jump to msg. # Dblwmtolle:
There are no guru's, only messengers, and those who have studied the PLAY. If you can't see the forest thru the trees, then come back after you've studied the global economic factors, government involvement, cleanup of massive corruption, and perhaps Maheu's next chess move. Maybe then you'll have a greater grasp of what's ahead, and what happened.
Spewing complaints won't buy you much of anything except angst and severe stomach ulcers. Venting once in a while is good, but it does zero for everyone on this board. Are you a big zero? Nope, I didn't think so. So think intelligently and try to imagine why the date of the 5th was more important than the GF clause.
Think what the company can do in the future to step forward. Use your God given imagination, and what would you do at this point if nothing was stopping you?
Thanks for listening.
Good luck.
Mike777
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:15:56 GMT -5
By: 07isback 09 Dec 2007, 07:38 PM EST Msg. 630796 of 630829 Jump to msg. # mike sportman had a question for you on the cong, board By: here it is could you answer it, tia sportsman93306 09 Dec 2007, 05:53 PM EST Msg. 28246 of 28246 Jump to msg. # MIKE777. DO U STILL BELIEVE IN 1.58? WHY> CAN U
Explain it now with so much new information. I mean your rationale in believing $1.58 per share. Thanks
SPORTSMAN
- - - - - By: mike777 09 Dec 2007, 07:45 PM EST Msg. 630798 of 630829 (This msg. is a reply to 630796 by 07isback.) Jump to msg. # 07:
Give me one good reason why I should give that info out to the likes of you who having been bashing for 3 plus years now? And your friends on this board who have been bashing.
Just wait and see. If that's not good enough for you, well then that's just too bad, isn't it? If you had no confidence in your investment, why did you blindly buy and then lash out at others for your misgiving and judgement? Believe in what you bought... I or anyone else here is not in control of the timeframes here. There are a lot bigger issues going on here than your personal life. I pray we all profit, and even you will if you own when the time is upon us.
GLIA
Mike777 - - - - -
By: CHICPICK 09 Dec 2007, 07:57 PM EST Msg. 630806 of 630829 (This msg. is a reply to 630798 by mike777.) Jump to msg. # mike, You are so full of craap.....You ain't got a clue that this is history, and has been for a long time now. Face reality Mikey, the party's over.? - - - - -
By: mike777 09 Dec 2007, 08:26 PM EST Msg. 630828 of 630829 (This msg. is a reply to 630806 by CHICPICK.) Jump to msg. # Chic:
You were a believer.. easier to sit on the fence or fall over onto the unhappy person side isn't it?
Why don't you remember why you bought? Fat Lady hasn't sung yet. We ain't dead yet IMO. I'm not here to make you believe or think, or keep hope. Do what you want... doesn't matter to me.
If Urban wasn't squeaky clean, he'd have been in jail long ago... put that in your pipe and smoke it. Fact remains, WE ARE NOT DEAD. Prevented from moving forward, IMO, yes... but I believe we have past that point now. What's left? Globization of a clean monetary system? Possibly.. what else? The answers are right in front you.
Regards,
Mikey
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:16:29 GMT -5
By: mike777 09 Dec 2007, 08:37 PM EST Msg. 630836 of 630845 (This msg. is a reply to 630832 by baloney_cleaver.) Jump to msg. # Ok Baloney:
All is not as it appears, but if you want to pursue it Baloney, why haven't you sued... huh? Hmmm.. do you even own? Or maybe Ameritrade, from Nebraska is paying you (IMO) per post?
I don't have time to go thru and hold your baby hand for every single shred of what you claim to be fact... it is not all fact. But in a trap for the bad guys... putting out that kind of FRONT would draw a lot in ... wouldn't you think?
Think how this was designed... from the start, but also think of who is holding it back at the end. Maybe then you'll start to have a clue, otherwise you are spinning your wheels, and "just plain don't get it." And quite frankly if you haven't gotten by now, you never will. But that's just my opinion sir.
Good night to you and all.
Mike777
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:17:06 GMT -5
By: baloney_cleaver 09 Dec 2007, 08:44 PM EST Msg. 630842 of 630846 Jump to msg. # mikey! Don't make me post what Kevin has said in the past year!
- - - - - By: mike777 09 Dec 2007, 08:48 PM EST Msg. 630845 of 630846 (This msg. is a reply to 630842 by baloney_cleaver.) Jump to msg. # Baloney:
Kevin is just a front, but obviously you don't know that either.
In fact, you don't know one single fact to support your own investment. So why are you here? Just to bash your own investment? No... you don't own...
So go play outside with Johnny... he's on the swings.
IMO.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:26:47 GMT -5
seagull Board Addict Re: gossip 12/9/07 « Reply #4 on Today at 8:58pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- posted by tramp... sunday nite..Casper Update: Dec. 9, 2007 « Thread Started on Today at 9:49pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Casper 12-09-07 Yesterday's VIP message found its mark thanks to all of you. Thank you. The "COLONEL" (new Provost?) has taken over and is wielding a big stick. Our funds have been "liquefied" and all checks and cards again increased in value. All signals point to Monday delivery with the only "loose end" being the positioning of Freedom which we think moved out this afternoon but is as yet unconfirmed. The "showdown" between the IMF and BRUSSELS has several reported outcomes including the movement of "control" elsewhere. All possible outcomes favor us. The big worry, that they were dragging us to the 15th and would then go on holiday for 30 days has been answered thusly; "if necessary we will stay and not leave but we do not expect that to be needed". Once again, this should be our last message. Please remember www.givemeliberty.org. Merry Christmas everyone casper 12-09-07 www.cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1197189019
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:40:37 GMT -5
By: baloney_cleaver 09 Dec 2007, 08:57 PM EST Msg. 630848 of 630874 (This msg. is a reply to 630845 by mike777.) Jump to msg. # LOL! Com'on miley, you can do better than that dude! Where's your facts? I posted some of mine and if I had to post all my files on this scam I would be here all night! You can't post anything positve, mikey! - - - - -
By: mike777 09 Dec 2007, 09:08 PM EST Msg. 630854 of 630874 (This msg. is a reply to 630848 by baloney_cleaver.) Jump to msg. # Fact:
1. Baloney.. you are full of Baloney.
2. You do not own.
3. You only bash.
4. Your so called facts mean nothing. If Urban illegally sold off our claims and made off with our money he'd have been arrested long ago. You have totally missed the "sting" play and have no concept of why things were done. Insiders can no longer sue now that the shell is empty. Only bonafide shareholders qualify for any payment or restitution, which doesn't include you now does it?
Oh by they way, just a rumor, but I heard bashers will get nothing because they are considered part of the damages and short to the firm. Goodnight... and IMO of course. Profit though must be paid to all.
See ya in Vegas.
Mike777
And Baloney... just leave it to Cleaver. He knows best.
- John Lennon
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:42:19 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 9, 2007 22:42:39 GMT -5
By: abadgoodgirl 09 Dec 2007, 09:36 PM EST Msg. 630861 of 630874 Jump to msg. # Why would DeBeers sell its 40-80 billion value in claims in FALC to a Shore Gold subsidiary for $180 million?
Does that seem like a bad business deal? I read DeBeers' geology report...it valued its 42% interest to be between 40 and 80 billion.
So why the panic sell at 180 million?
What if the rest of the $$$$ went to cover delivery of shorted cmkx shares.
And why would DeBeers accept $180 million from a CMKX unrelated company for its 42% interest.
Why does Kensington Resources get such a great buy?
DeBeers wouldn't just take $180 million for claims it valued to be worth between $40-80 billion in the "largest kimberlite field in the world". That does not sound like the ruthless cut-throat DeBeers we all know.
DeBeers is private (for now) and the question is where did the rest of the sale price go?
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 10, 2007 9:10:10 GMT -5
seagull Board Addict gossip 12/10/07 « Thread Started on Today at 7:32am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- posted by wombat... Re: gossip 12/9/07 « Reply #3 on Yesterday at 10:23pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- strange phone calls to belgium!! a shareholders friend told me he got a call from a co. in canada asking him if he wanted to invest , he asked them where they got his number and they said he is listed on " they re database". He didnt give any info to them since he got a bit disturbed by it , but tried to call back, the number was unreachable! I saw the number myself!! there is another unconfirmed report call to a shareholder that never frequents any board!! stay tuned!! www.cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1197293529
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 10, 2007 9:11:29 GMT -5
mgl Mod Squad
Re: Gossip Column 12/10/07 « Reply #1 on Today at 7:58am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: imsoweary 10 Dec 2007, 02:00 AM EST Msg. 630897 of 630940 (This msg. is a reply to 630775 by oil.ipo.) Jump to msg. # oil.ipo, you are forgetting that the source of which you speak is the same source that initiated the rumors of a payout in the first place. That same source is the one who claimed there is a team working in the background. That same source is the one who claims that money is sitting in trust funds. If its information about when and how much is a lie, then everything that source has said is a lie. Thus, the whole fantasy is nothing but a lie made up by some mysterious source whose agenda we are not sure of. - - - - -
By: oil.ipo 10 Dec 2007, 06:44 AM EST Msg. 630932 of 630940 (This msg. is a reply to 630897 by imsoweary.) Jump to msg. # imsoweary- That is your opinion. I can accept that. "Your opinion"/ Not that rumors made everything relating to possible ROI or positive outcome in this investment/stock a lie. The part where you say "whose agenda we are not sure of" is a great way of describing the source. The source was dealing with a revoked company for a good deal "his" tenure. I would say Perception beats Persuasion here as (motivation) there is not activity to act on for the shareholders. Now what could possibly motivate an individual to work thousands of individuals (not just shareholders) day and night to think a particular way?
Oh I can think of several excellent reasons
We can also choose to ignore them.
regarding the shareholders-
Money executed on shares..
Shareholders are now Bona fide (certified)
NS believed to be in the Trillions
Legislation now enacted for NS companies.
New Monetary regulations being launched.
I personally do not feel that CMKX (old) dumped their claims, rights to them, - however transferred title, or whatever means to protect those assets. I also do not believe that a shareholder buying shares during that episode would relinquish any rights to any value during that transfer of title. You bought shares during that time then you are entitled to damages on those shares based on future Valuation. (after revocation)
There really isn't any more to discuss.
It is simple...again , AIMHO2
Oil
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 10, 2007 9:12:16 GMT -5
mgl Mod Squad
Re: Gossip Column 12/10/07 « Reply #2 on Today at 8:29am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: bhollenegg 10 Dec 2007, 08:29 AM EST Msg. 630947 of 630947 (This msg. is a reply to 630627 by mkaykay0.) Jump to msg. # Hello Mkaykay0...
In response to your question, "Somebody, mq3 or jay or gr8 show me ONE positive thing about CMKX JUST ONE THING? PLEASE!"
1. Positive fact that Bona fide Shareholders are locked-in and identified for plan distributions.
2. Positive fact that the parties guilty of counterfeiting, naked-shorting, and fail to delivers are locked in and identified.
3. Positive fact that the revocation allowed us to do a cert pull without the SEC accusing the company of manipulating the stock price.
4. Positive fact that Revocation with the cert pull united the Bona fide Shareholders.
5. Positive fact that Revocation stopped the naked shorting of CMKX.
6. Positive fact that CMKX is still here after revocation…a good indication there are assets worthwhile the concerted effort.
7. Positive fact that paid sad people are still on the message boards concerned about the possible outcome. Harassing shareholders, in itself, is a confirmation that there are other entities, which do not own CMKX Stocks, but feel threatened by CMKX's potential value.
8. Positive fact that Baloney Cleaver, who claims to be a scam buster, and who claims that CMKX is a scam, both claims are still touted, both claims are still unproven.
Take care, BHollenegg
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 10, 2007 9:31:03 GMT -5
A thread on millionaires.........Anybody got answers?mgl Mod Squad Questions for "anybody in the know"... « Thread Started on Yesterday at 8:44pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A CMKX stockholder friend of mine (who couldn't be bothered with these message boards) asked me to post some questions (that I couldn't answer) for discussion amongst "those in the know"... So here's what they want to know: The question on the board was how many shares do we have in the treasury. Frizzell replied the share a/s and o/s but wouldn't comment on the actual shares in the treasury. Don't we deserve to know? Why is there no compliant filed to get this info? If we are working with the Sec is this where we should start? Is it not OK to file complaints with the SEC against Frizzell for our cert count question and other related questions? Any thoughts on this? millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1197251091
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