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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:39:55 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- misisipiflyer Global Moderator Re: The Rumor Mill...."Smoking Hot!" « Reply #89 on Today at 7:59am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (5:53 AM) leon-5: gmmmmmmmmmmmmmm all$$$$$$$$$ : what's new Wodan? (6:04 AM) wodan11: nothing (6:04 AM) wodan11: we wait (6:05 AM) wodan11: we hear think (6:05 AM) jostan1935: We wait, we wait, we wait................... (6:05 AM) wodan11: not long no more (6:05 AM) wodan11: dont worry (6:05 AM) wodan11: we hear nomore delays (6:06 AM) wodan11: we hear before april all must be over and done (6:06 AM) wodan11: that is for us (6:08 AM) wodan11: imo we are ok (6:09 AM) wodan11: and close (6:13 AM) wodan11: www.ntrs.com/pws/jsp/display2.jsp?XML=http://web-xp2a-pws/content/pages/nt/0601/1137172610555_292.xml&TYPE=locInd ex (6:13 AM) wodan11: pic this company and you will be ok (6:16 AM) wodan11: 1 person in pal (6:17 AM) wodan11: worked for that company (6:17 AM) wodan11: told me about it Many Thanks to Sheilayea1 for the recap. « Last Edit: Today at 8:01am by misisipiflyer » camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=1199454328&page=4
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:42:15 GMT -5
hundredtoone God of Diamonds member is online Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 688 Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #210 on Today at 10:08am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings and Salutations, Things proceeded this week with only a mild ripple of counter current. From the moment the go was given it only took less then 24 hours, for them to be able to start shoving packies into people's hands. A global depression looms on the horizon and that's why no quarters are being given by any party involved in the finality of the massive dispursement underway. While some may think the game continues, I assure you, it's not. The true powers in this world are leveraging massive power on the 'also ran's'. This is the nexxus point where the world is effectively moving in the direction it chooses, without us direction. One last time and this is a relay of information provided by bankers in europe. Accessing one's package into a devaluing currency, gives one short term benefit, but provides very little for the long term. The us fed and the ecb, are not 'partners'. In other words, telling on every american who comes to europe to access, so you pay us taxes. This was always designed for the long term, folks getting out here and doing something, and providing the bumper mechanism for the other parts of the world, when the dollar falls thru the floor, and wall st utterly crashes. The statements made by the Bank of NY, which became Citi, many years later, published by Mr. Sinclair in his newsletter, sound so much like what we are hearing now, when the stock market crashed in 1929. It's enough to take one's breath away. If you care to get some news briefs from 1929-31, go to his website and read them. www.jsmineset.com Go back a few days and you'll find them. I like him because wall st, hates him and he's been nailing everything they've been doing for years. It helps of course, if your daddy helped build the place. I know, I know, I keep hearing it all the time, there's going to be some magical thing take place in america, which will make accessing in the us, safe, and somehow, your access will be held in euros over here. Yea, in about 5 years, after all this stuff has been cleaned up, that created the mess in the first place. Humor to help you understand how 'they' do it; www.brasschecktv.com/page/187.html <http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/187.html> Very interesting statement made to me was, Basel 2 goes into full activation, when all this money has been dumped, inferring it dovetails with the new global banking system, which for me, was always described to be a separate component. It was to be something that went active at the completion of the imf fundings set loose...yet those become accessible upon the completion of the big one. I can only surmise, they just weaved them together as being more expedient. I would offer a comment directed to Mr Storey, see if your investigators can dig deeper into the origin of mr wanta's money, and hint, you have to go past reagan, as to where he got that money. Resistence to paying that money is quite futile. Due to the economic conditions out here now, people are playing for keeps now, and are quite willing to go where ever they deem necessary to settle 'old business'. ALL old business is being cleared off the books now, and this is strictly a non negotiation zone. The europeans have already prepared themselves for the fact that some of these big banks are going to bite the dust, it's life. They keep shielding americans from the facts about their own....with very few speaking out loud about the woes. Well, that's about all I have to say about anything at this stage, now it's time to trust your gut. Door number 1 or door number 2, choose. You have up to the moment of activation/access to make the wise choice and as one of the managers said once, 'there are no do over's no second chances'. Americans are being made to become adults in the world. We've been acting like teenagers using daddy's credit card, spending like we choose and never thinking for a second, 'daddy' might pull that card. Well he did, and we're trying to explain to our friends, oh he'll give it back in just a minute, just hold on...btw could I borrow 20 bucks for some gas? I'll pay you back.... Everything is underway, be watching for your own arrival. They aren't exactly broadcasting their schedule of deliveries. Even at this bottom zone, they are following the same protocols they have ever since they began, highest inputs get them first, all the way down to the single input folks. This is not some other group or some other level, they are clearing out all that belongs to what's called 'low level' lenders, which I hear freedom, dotson, and a numerous amount of other programs are also under. This is one massive wave of money on the move. All this stuff has a different pedigree to it. The big one for example, comes from when 'money' was gold and silver, so it's input has an entirely different type of impact, then say, just abunch of 'fiat' money, like you just won the lottery. I don't have the banking language to give the finite bankereze to express it, suffice it say, this money is not the same as what's been pumped out of the fed for all these years via the treasury or any other system operating over the last 60 years in the fiat system. The return to metal backed currencies is on it's way. Stabilization first, then the whole thing shifts again, the rest of the way to metal. I'm still doing consultations right up to the last moment of my own departure, that can be done by emailing this address. BTW, anyone on charter is not going to get any messages from safe mail. They bounce all the time. People have emailed me and think I'm ignoring them, no, your service doesn't like safe mail and will not receive them into your charter mailbox. You should get an international email box anyhow, the mailboxes you have to pay for won't be any good out here in the big world anyhow. Donations are needed and accepted at www.paypal.com account 2goforth@safe-mail.net Thank you for the help, it is most appreciated. Love and Kisses, Poofness www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1201495963...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial)
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:43:01 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pennypauly GC Mod Re: gossip column 1/28 « Reply #2 on Today at 9:30am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: orionbelt14318 28 Jan 2008, 09:24 AM EST Msg. 650175 of 650179 Jump to msg. # OK, I REALLY HAVE TO RUN NOW... BIG DAY TODAY... TAKE CARE MY FINE FEATHERED FRIENDS....BAKAWWWW BAKAWWWWWW LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEACE!!!!!!! VINDICATION!!!! VALUATION!!!!!! GOT URANIUM? ?? GOT CERTS? BLESS YOU ALL!!!!! millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1201523036
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:44:07 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: bhollenegg 28 Jan 2008, 05:14 AM EST Msg. 29355 of 29367 (This msg. is a reply to 29354 by sparkysantos.) Jump to msg. # GM Sparkysantos... I agree with you 100%. The markets need to brace themselves incase of any repercussions from the NSS/FTDs corrections. The write-offs are being taken care of first before any large recipients receive their due compensations. The main priorities are to stabilize the markets. News of huge compensations due to the corruption in the stock market could rock the US Markets, thus further deteriorating investors’ confidence and trust. This could cause a major turmoil around the Word Markets. The markets would also be littered with many lawsuits. feel one of the positive results of the present write-offs is the desensitizing of investors’ reaction as it proves the market will bounce back with the current demands and assets in place. I too agree from the flurry of trading activities prior to CMKM’s revocation that the stocks are/were heavily naked shorted. The size of the shareholders’ base was used as the stick to get the attention and clout to help stop the naked shorting problem. Unfortunately, the size of the shareholders’ base and naked shorted stocks put the shareholders’ compensations and payments in the delay category. I do feel confident that the Bona Fide Stockholders of CMKX will be pleased with the return on their investment. Again, Sparkysantos, thank you for an excellent analysis and sharing your thoughts about the current situation of CMKX. All the best, BHollenegg ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01247&read=29355
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:47:26 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- oaks DIAMOND JEDI Re: Conversation with INSIDER connection.. « Reply #68 on Today at 10:16am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Precisely why I consider the information I receive as an opinion from the person I spoke with and it is only my opinion when I post it here. Thus, I leave it to each of you to decide how you want to feel about the information. Some like it and some don't. I don't make personal judgements about how anyone feels regarding CMKX at this point. For the most part I believe most of the members of this wonderful Forum treat others the same way. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1201312263&page=4oaks DIAMOND JEDI Re: Conversation with INSIDER connection.. « Reply #70 on Today at 11:20am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just read Melvin's comments from a couple of months ago on the other thread. Excellent reading and a MUST for all members. I believe Melvin really defines many things very well...the 2 key things being: 1. Claims with VALUE are still safe. 2. Everything else. Oaks (aimho)
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:48:22 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- one2few DIAMOND JEDI Re: gossip disscussion 1/28 « Reply #11 on Today at 1:09pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Going along with Sparksantos view of the write downs being more about mortgages, that it may be about our situation, I think that any payout would have to be timed in accordance with tax rebates, the tax stimulus bill working it's way through Congress. Lots of money showing up in the system before then would create problems. If the money is distributed over time, as has been suggested by Acca, then some of it might be sooner than when the tax rebates would go out. It has to be made for a constructive response to the destructive behavior that the writedowns are wreaking on our system. It is event driven but timing is crucial. Actually, a stimulus package would offer cover for a payout of the magnitude we're talking about and get things back on track for the economy. millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1201522973
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:49:11 GMT -5
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:50:48 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mona Lisa Smiles Queen of Diamonds Re: Oaks (aka Andy) encouraged....millionaires boa « Reply #12 on Today at 4:17pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:Jan 26, 2008, 8:46am, wwjdthrume wrote:I appreciate hearing that Andy is convinced that Urban didn't scam us. I'm fairly certain of that also. I WISH his post was more about the timeline for hearing about our ROI than about trying out for the head cheerleader position. (I'm on my second cup of coffee and didn't take my 'be nice' meds (aka donuts) yet). The flip flopping Andy's done in the past lend credence to the idea that we are witnessing world class propaganda from a Master. The ACCA show doesn't have the same 'oomph' it used to have. Time to put in one of 'benchwarmers'. If this doesn't do it, then we'll see Melvin 'suit up' and get in the 'game'. We need and deserve closure. Whether we've 'won', 'it's big', 'event driven', or 'whatever', we deserve to be dealt with honestly and with enough disclosure that we can be assured of a definite timeline that can only move in our favor - no more delays. It may have been in our best interest to do a lot of things behind closed doors, but there should be SOME positive results that can be relayed to the shareholders through a PR, and not through the 'usual hens' clucking. (I definitely need a donut and more caffeine - I apologize in advance for the 'clucking hens' comment.) IMO- Debi Hey Debi..nice post. I have a friend who has a friend (lol) who is a retired SEC investigations agent..he dealt with scamsters and would often tell my friend..watch how they will recycle their gurus..this is a prime tactic to regenerate hope. However in this case I think it's being done to keep us alive until ROI cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1201317440
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:51:33 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: lilburrito0 28 Jan 2008, 08:52 AM EST Msg. 650112 of 650309 (This msg. is a reply to 650110 by jdoc8.) Jump to msg. # jdoc8 I talked with an Attorney friend of mine. He said: If the Plaintiff files an Amended Complaint, all Defendants must be served with the Amended Complaint. In our case, CMKX filed a Complaint and not all Defendants have been served. The remaining Defendants will be served by publication. There are costs involved in the publication process! Kevin has announced that there will be additional Defendants filed in an Amended Complaint. Accordingly, all Defendants will have to be served with the Amended Complaint. If CMKX pays the cost of serving Urban by publication on the Complaint; CMKX will have to again pay the costs of serving Urban by publication on the Amended Complaint. Looks like the Amended Complaint will first be filed and then serve Urban and the other by publication! ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650112By: jdoc8 28 Jan 2008, 09:09 AM EST Msg. 650138 of 650310 (This msg. is a reply to 650112 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # Thought this was really old news lilburrito. Seems like the tyler guys are stalling to me. Wonder why? With bf being an attorney, he should understand how to get all of this done in a timely fashion and efficiently also. I thought there was financial constraints ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650138By: lilburrito0 28 Jan 2008, 09:14 AM EST Msg. 650151 of 650312 (This msg. is a reply to 650138 by jdoc8.) Jump to msg. # jdoc8 Re: With bf being an attorney, he should understand how to get all of this done in a timely fashion and efficiently also The question was why has Urban not been served by publication. Now we know why because there is going to be an Amended Complaint filed naming additional defendants. I would say that Kevin and Bill has discovered additional assets belonging to CMKX and will be suing those people to get the assets back. Does not sound like stalling to me! - - - - - ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650151
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:52:13 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to mgl........ By: shrewd5 28 Jan 2008, 02:15 PM EST Msg. 650308 of 650330 (This msg. is a reply to 649107 by tramp1950.) Jump to msg. # Tramp.........are you and Leo suggesting that Maheu is still on board until Jan 31/08? - - - - - By: DrillBit 28 Jan 2008, 02:56 PM EST Msg. 650316 of 650330 (This msg. is a reply to 650308 by shrewd5.) Jump to msg. # shrewd5's I think he still is but IF not, he has completed his job. - - - - - By: e362 28 Jan 2008, 03:11 PM EST Msg. 650321 of 650330 (This msg. is a reply to 650316 by DrillBit.) Jump to msg. # drill, unless of course he resigned. - - - - - By: DrillBit 28 Jan 2008, 03:20 PM EST Msg. 650323 of 650330 (This msg. is a reply to 650321 by e362.) Jump to msg. # Robert Mahue never quit a project that he started so that is not a concern of mine. I think he was handed a world changing job, cleaning up corruption in trading onshore and off, and looks at that as his last big hurrah. JMO - - - - - millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1201523036
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:52:58 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- stressfreeliving DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: gossip discussion 1/28 « Reply #22 on Today at 5:33pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is sad how the stories and the dates just keep getting pushed up. Such generalized information by some posters. In the haze of tales I read on boards, I see that most are just taking a guess. There are no inside secrets or inside sources. If there were, we would know so much more. What we do have are some very resourceful individuals that are good at DD and good at formulating opinions with their findings millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1201522973&page=2
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:53:36 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: e362 28 Jan 2008, 03:22 PM EST Msg. 650324 of 650390 (This msg. is a reply to 650323 by DrillBit.) Jump to msg. # drill, where I hope you are 100% correct and to our benefit, didn't he say under oath in court that he was no longer associated with the company? - - - - - ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650324By: DrillBit 28 Jan 2008, 03:35 PM EST Msg. 650332 of 650390 (This msg. is a reply to 650324 by e362.) Jump to msg. # Yes and Urban took the 5th. Reading the transcript of that proceding told me that it was a farce. In court, SPECIFIC questions get specific answers and Iron Bob may have a very different title such as President of CIM. JUST an example. Too, read what Mr. Mahue said outside of the courthouse. Paraphrasing here but can get you the quote, 'I am here to protect the shareholders'. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650332
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:54:29 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: smartmoneyknows 28 Jan 2008, 03:50 PM EST Msg. 650341 of 650390 Jump to msg. # MORE DREAMING FROM INNES'ROOM Khillium: 9,999.00 is good number for peeps who need relief and for those who don't they will be happy things are finally moving killerbzzs_1: I believe Northern Trust will charge 10 to 12,000 to open a dynasty trust. Oshins was charging $5000. canitocano73: Dear Mr.XXXXXX , Here is the alert you had requested on the phone,the transfer agent is behind in processing due to so many requests.CMKM Diamonds granted First Global an extension until 1/30/06 to get all certs processed. Customers who receive the certs by 1/30/06 will be included in the cash payout. E*TRADE Financial ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650341 Link to Post - Back to Top 65.54.154.48
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:55:34 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: mij13 28 Jan 2008, 04:13 PM EST Msg. 650356 of 650390 (This msg. is a reply to 650328 by johnnyic.) Jump to msg. # CMKM sees old gem play make final flop 2008-01-28 15:52 ET - Street Wire by Will Purcell Forgotten diamond counts from the Carolyn kimberlite in Saskatchewan provide should allow shareholders of CMKM Diamonds Inc. to accept that Urban Casavant's 2004 diamond promotion was a flop. The Pink Sheets dog of dogs routinely traded billions of shares daily during the spring and summer of 2004 while Mr. Casavant's pitch worked investors into frenzy. Word that Carolyn was diamondiferous propelled CMKM to a market capitalization several times higher than the combined market value of Shore Gold Inc. and Kensington Resources Ltd., each top Saskatchewan gem hunters with a good supply of large gems. CMKM's leaky promotion began to founder several days later when CMKM's partners revealed the disappointing diamond details -- after prompting from the Canadian regulators. Nevertheless, it took more than a year, reams of unfavourable press and a Securities and Exchange Commission revocation to kill Mr. Casavant's promotion for good. Some of CMKM's dogged shareholders kept the faith that Carolyn would still sparkle, but new numbers clearly paint the oft-tested pipe as a diamond woofer. The numbers The promotional jig was up when Rick Walker's United Carina Resources Corp. and Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. revealed that 386 kilograms of Carolyn kimberlite contained just two tiny diamonds weighing a total of 0.000005 carat, stones that deserved the microdiamond moniker like few others. Saskatchewan gem hunters typically report macrodiamond grades in carats per hundred tonnes, probably to avoid the negative connotations of an occasional zero after a decimal point. Even that approach fails at Carolyn, which yielded nary a macrodiamond, and offered a total microdiamond grade of 0.001 carat per hundred tonnes, a result still overloaded with zeros. CMKM's shareholders had a few days to enjoy the rosy hue of Mr. Casavant's flimsy diamondiferous proclamation before Mr. Walker burst their bubble, and many refused to believe the diamond details emanating from north of the border. When shareholder denial and anger inevitably gave way to bargaining, investors rested their hopes on core samples still safely locked away. Even that faint flicker of hope faded when CMKM's piece of the play lapsed. Years passed with no further word, but United Uranium Corp. and Star Uranium Corp. drove what seems the final nail into Carolyn's coffin in a Jan. 22 press release. The successor companies to United Carina and Consolidated Pine Channel said they processed the samples in 2006, but Mr. Walker did not release the results. The new crew, led by Eric Wray, said the remaining 210 kilograms of rock contained six microdiamonds. The discouragement That smattering of gems is better than CMKM's first result, but it still yields a laughable grade. Based on typical weights for diamonds recovered on the sieves, the latest parcel of grit from Carolyn weighed about 0.0003 carat. That yields a microdiamond grade of 0.14 carat per hundred tonnes, not to be confused with Shore's average of 0.14 carat per tonne for commercial diamonds larger than one millimetre. With CMKM gone, United Uranium and Star Uranium each own a 50-per-cent interest in the Carolyn pipe. They say they are "currently assessing exploration results to date," but there is precious little sparkle to assess from the pipe, originally named Smeaton because of its proximity to the little Saskatchewan town. Mr. Casavant renamed the pipe in 2004, presumably after his wife, but the new moniker did not erase previously disappointing results dating back to the mid-1990s. Swannell Minerals Corp. tested the body in 1996 and found nothing, and Mr. Walker's two companies failed to find anything promotable in 2000. CMKM, which on one memorable day traded more shares than all the other companies on all the other stock exchanges in the world, combined, last traded on the Pink Sheets in the fall of 2005, with a share price as puny as its diamonds. - - - - - ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650356By: repeaterpete 28 Jan 2008, 04:18 PM EST Msg. 650357 of 650390 (This msg. is a reply to 650356 by mij13.) Jump to msg. # Marty, did you put down your donut to read that dribble? The loyal CMKM Diamonds shareholders know better than to believe what Will Purcell thinks. You should too! GO CMKX! ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650357
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 28, 2008 20:56:56 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: mij13 28 Jan 2008, 04:37 PM EST Msg. 650368 of 650391 Jump to msg. # By: phxgold 19 Jan 2008, 10:49 AM EST Msg. 645350 of 646047 (This msg. is a reply to 645313 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # edwards has defaulted urban will be in default soon. the assets in thro will belong to cmkm soon without ANY legal battle - - - - - View Replies » ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650368By: stickybunz 28 Jan 2008, 04:42 PM EST Msg. 650370 of 650391 (This msg. is a reply to 650368 by mij13.) Jump to msg. # mij13, did Phxgold specolate as to what the assets could consist of? ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650370By: stickybunz 28 Jan 2008, 04:43 PM EST Msg. 650371 of 650391 Jump to msg. # mij, also did phxgold specolate as to how long it would take before those assets were legally transfered into CMKM's ownership? ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=650371
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