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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 7:44:46 GMT -5
By: lilburrito0 04 Apr 2008, 08:34 AM EDT Msg. 696857 of 696858 (This msg. is a reply to 696854 by blewbyu2.) Jump to msg. # blewbyu2
Re: good of you to bring up deli.....did u ever find out what Mr Frizells role was with him?...
No! I never asked him. And I don't think Frizzell would tell me anything if I did ask too!
Re: why he hired an attorney that bought shares from deli
I heard that rumor about Hodges buying shares from Deli.
Has anyone contacted Hodges to verify if he bought from Deli? Also, is hodges still working for CMKM?
I have not spoken to either so I can not validate this subject area.
But whatever the case may be: I don't know why Frizzell hired Hodges nor the reasons why Firzzell hired Hodges.
Re: was Mr Frizzell working both sides __ the share thing is troublesome
During the deli fiasco; Stoecklein and Moran were the CMKM attorneys and Urban never stopped the deli transactions.
My answer would be "no" because Frizzell was not the CMKM attorney during the deli fiasco.
Further; How the SEC handles the deli fiasco will bring clarity as to who or whom had their hands in the cookie jar! So I will wait to see what the SEC does with deli and the shares deli sold.
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 7:46:10 GMT -5
By: discothingy 04 Apr 2008, 08:08 AM EDT Msg. 696852 of 696858 Jump to msg. # Bagholders need to be less defensive. Can't they see the humor in their being scammed and strung along for so many years? This is the stuff that makes the less gullible and greedy chuckle
By: restripe2007 04 Apr 2008, 08:11 AM EDT Msg. 696853 of 696859 (This msg. is a reply to 696852 by discothingy.) Jump to msg. # soon to be money bagholders
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 7:49:27 GMT -5
wowthisishuge is gone!! Wonder if he left or was booted due to the content of his posts?By: lilburrito0 04 Apr 2008, 07:13 AM EDT Msg. 696841 of 696858 (This msg. is a reply to 696826 by ÿinvalid_sender.) Jump to msg. # wowthisishuge Re: My brother said you were a drinker Kind of silly to still be playing "little kid in the sandbox” at your age! How about coming back with some constructive argument next time? Are you capable of doing so?
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 7:52:02 GMT -5
By: lilburrito0 03 Apr 2008, 06:46 PM EDT Msg. 696647 of 696859 (This msg. is a reply to 696642 by newtopennies.) Jump to msg. # newtopennies
Re: IF WE DO GET PAID, WE COULD DROP OUT OF THE LAWSUIT? All IMO. eom.
Currently CMKM does not have the funds required to take on an NSS and Dilution Conspiracy lawsuit. So we all have to wait until the Urban and Edwards lawsuits are finished to see if there's going to be enough funds to take on this issue!
By: adrienne07 04 Apr 2008, 05:46 AM EDT Msg. 696835 of 696859 (This msg. is a reply to 696647 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # lilburrito0: That is a BS statement. The Tylers want to drag the lawsuits... until their retirement to collect salaries and that's their plan.
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 8:02:09 GMT -5
vngntn1 vegas member Re: The Rumor Mill...."Smoking Hot!" « Reply #1042 Yesterday at 7:33pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The last word from Company "PULL YOUR CERTS" Everything else is a view thru the Crystal Ball. Could turn out as many predict or not. BE PREPARED ! I have planted extra squash & Okra for my friends. I also have a large group of herbs in case I am offered Crow. I had a stroke of luck today, the first flock of 20 Wild Turkeys have re-populated my valley and ventured within harvesting range ( I have not told them about CMKX yet ,). « Last Edit: Yesterday at 7:39pm by vngntn1 » camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=576&page=70
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 8:02:49 GMT -5
oilipo vegas member Re: The Rumor Mill...."Smoking Hot!" « Reply #1043 Yesterday at 7:53pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bona Fide Certificate holders received certificates in exchange for restitution IMHO. They simply have not received the damages yet. If you hold a NS cert you are not "electronic", however you are a certified recipient of reciprocity. This is an entirely different matter then a structured exchange of shares for a buyout or a tender offer. I believe that a Buy Out will follow after the legal play. This settlement also was completed long ago, and held in Trust for the bona fide group . AIMHO2! Interesting posts, but I do not agree with either Wodan or Lowrider today. Oil « Last Edit: Yesterday at 7:59pm by oilipo » camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=576&page=70
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 8:03:37 GMT -5
vngntn1 vegas member Re: The Rumor Mill...."Smoking Hot!" « Reply #1044 Yesterday at 8:10pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OILPRO: I tend to agree " a buyout after legal" however there are only 700m shares to buyout ! The legal play should flush the rest first « Last Edit: Yesterday at 8:12pm by vngntn1 » camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=576&page=70
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 8:04:15 GMT -5
tramp vegas member Re: The Rumor Mill...."Smoking Hot!" « Reply #1045 Today at 6:48am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 sides to this.. govt' side and company side.. govt' money must be first.. company has to be assured we were compensated from the govt' side ( SEC) and the dtcc and the private federal reserve bank for their blind eyes and yes by the illuminiti banks and their cohorts.. with all the crooks running amuck thru our stock market for the last 200 years + since 1792..go read the history, if you don't believe me...here is a clue...'buttonwood agreement' once we are paid, then we hear from urban and company..and noone knows when that would happen. « Last Edit: Today at 6:49am by tramp » camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=576&page=70
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 9:00:53 GMT -5
By: lilburrito0 04 Apr 2008, 08:34 AM EDT Msg. 696857 of 696858 (This msg. is a reply to 696854 by blewbyu2.) Jump to msg. # blewbyu2 Re: good of you to bring up deli.....did u ever find out what Mr Frizells role was with him?... No! I never asked him. And I don't think Frizzell would tell me anything if I did ask too! Re: why he hired an attorney that bought shares from deli I heard that rumor about Hodges buying shares from Deli. Has anyone contacted Hodges to verify if he bought from Deli? Also, is hodges still working for CMKM? I have not spoken to either so I can not validate this subject area. But whatever the case may be: I don't know why Frizzell hired Hodges nor the reasons why Firzzell hired Hodges. Re: was Mr Frizzell working both sides __ the share thing is troublesome During the deli fiasco; Stoecklein and Moran were the CMKM attorneys and Urban never stopped the deli transactions. My answer would be "no" because Frizzell was not the CMKM attorney during the deli fiasco. Further; How the SEC handles the deli fiasco will bring clarity as to who or whom had their hands in the cookie jar! So I will wait to see what the SEC does with deli and the shares deli sold. By: gr8hiker 04 Apr 2008, 08:58 AM EDT Msg. 696860 of 696892 (This msg. is a reply to 696857 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # Burritto: You "brewed" up a steady response for the oft asked question , but the cat was out of the bag way back . Deli and the corral are like siamese twins regarding several issues and fortunately for us, surgery won't separate them. By: notill 04 Apr 2008, 09:13 AM EDT Msg. 696862 of 696892 (This msg. is a reply to 696860 by gr8hiker.) Jump to msg. # Never seen a "sure thing" that required so much defending. Shows lack of confidence, when the outcome can't be changed. imho - - - - - By: gr8hiker 04 Apr 2008, 09:18 AM EDT Msg. 696867 of 696894 (This msg. is a reply to 696862 by notill.) Jump to msg. # notill :yes you have > You just don't know it yet! By: lilburrito0 04 Apr 2008, 09:17 AM EDT Msg. 696866 of 696899 (This msg. is a reply to 696860 by gr8hiker.) Jump to msg. # gr8hiker Re: You "brewed" up a steady response for the oft asked question , but the cat was out of the bag way back . Deli and the corral are like siamese twins regarding several issues and fortunately for us, surgery won't separate them. As I wrote in the other post: When deli was selling shares, Stoecklein and Moran were the CMKM attorneys. Not Frizzell! When deli was selling shares, Urban was the CEO. Not Kevin! You can correlate the aspect that Frizzell’s hands are dirty because of the “Brewer” fiasco with deli. But you have no proof of the exact wrongdoings done by either. Only the SEC has that right! The SEC is currently investigating deli. I hope the SEC files suit against deli and disgorge deli’s profits. I hope the SEC stipulates the unlicensed brokerage by deli is in violation of SEC law and such brokerage transactions by deli were illegal. And I hope that the SEC declaration of illegal share brokering would give the right for CMKM to declare those transactions null and void! But until there’s a decision by the SEC gr8hiker: No one can effectively state who or whom have dirty hands. Who knows gr8hiker: Maybe the SEC will deem deli’s transaction were not illegal! Then your status as “bona-fide” shall remain!
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 9:04:02 GMT -5
By: gr8hiker 03 Apr 2008, 11:50 PM EDT Msg. 696825 of 696894 (This msg. is a reply to 696809 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. #
By: oil.ipo 04 Apr 2008, 09:14 AM EDT Msg. 696863 of 696892 (This msg. is a reply to 696825 by gr8hiker.) Jump to msg. # Nice Post Gr8, much appreciate your feelings. Really looking forward to a great day for all CMKM shareholders, and not planning on any excuses, delays, reasons, and above all EVENTS that would be connected to this timing $4$ our conclusion in order to keep us from "IT" (any longer?). I personally am waiting like you, with one caveat; I see the end as now, and not when it comes. The reason is simple. The "Team", and the SEC, and above all "OLD CMKM" had plenty of time to position us, collect for us, do great accounting, organize real shares from fake/ counterfeit /electronic, and launch their own version of APPOLO CMKX. Missions are flown in outer space with less difficulty IMHO. It should be done, and we should have been smart enough to negotiate a time with the US Government that was acceptable and doable for this saga with great consideration to those that made this happen the shareholders. Their lives have value, and are waiting, waiting, aging, and need not hear another time that they can wait for they are not important enough of an asset here.
Furthermore, I am very cognizant of market reform, non-conventional messengers/communications, new banking legislation, locking up the bad guys, conditioning the atmosphere for the release of funds, and all looks like the notifications have now been primed via media, but we will never be completely ready for exposure. As well there will always be some catastrophic media event front and center that will delay us if not done now. Sad to say. That is the way life is IMHO.
I feel that the shareholders are the core of this program. Without them there would be no NSS market clean up (URBAN'S PLAN + DREAM), world wide derivatives exposure including CMKM'S participation and team with agencies including many feel the FBI, correction/ FIX, whatever this thing will be billed out as to keep it comfortable for the interests at large and that word "FEAR".
Moses said "let my People go" I say "$$$LET THE INTEREST GO ALREADY$$$$$"... and then some
Anyway, Good luck guys,
AIMHO2~
Oil
By: Bellingus 04 Apr 2008, 09:54 AM EDT Msg. 696886 of 696903 (This msg. is a reply to 696825 by gr8hiker.) Jump to msg. # gr8... Excellent thoughts and timeline ~ past present and future. One of the better summaries of the year.
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 9:18:26 GMT -5
By: lilburrito0 04 Apr 2008, 09:04 AM EDT Msg. 696861 of 696898 (This msg. is a reply to 696859 by gr8hiker.) Jump to msg. # gr8hiker
Re: Anything I "condoned" was wholeheartedly "condoned " by Tyler
Weak argument gr8hiker!
When deli was selling shares, Stoecklein and Moran were the CMKM attorneys. Not Frizzell!
When deli was selling shares, Urban was the CEO. Not Kevin!
But according to the world of gr8hiker; Blame lies on the shoulders of current management! __ LOL
Re: You can't have it both ways. BTW
I only see this one way!
When deli was selling shares, Stoecklein and Moran were the CMKM attorneys. Not Frizzell!
When deli was selling shares, Urban was the CEO. Not Kevin!
When Kevin and Bill took over: They put a stop to deli's fiasco.
By: gr8hiker 04 Apr 2008, 09:15 AM EDT Msg. 696864 of 696898 (This msg. is a reply to 696861 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # Burritto: tsk tsk;your spins are getting weaker: This has nothing to do with who was CMKM attorney. It's all about who knew what , and when . You're proving to be more clueless with every post . We're done with this nonsense for today . Go back and regroup. You're rapidly becoming unraveled. Did I share with you that I just replaced my mailbox with a brand spanking new one? I think it appropriate!! have a good day.
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 9:22:36 GMT -5
By: demntx 04 Apr 2008, 09:21 AM EDT Msg. 696868 of 696899 Jump to msg. # I told deli 2 years ago to get a good lawyer...eom
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 9:25:51 GMT -5
By: lilburrito0 04 Apr 2008, 09:27 AM EDT Msg. 696871 of 696899 (This msg. is a reply to 696864 by gr8hiker.) Jump to msg. # gr8hiker
Re: tsk tsk;your spins are getting weaker:
If I remember correctly: Did not Kevin and Bill stop deli? And did not deli then start selling percentages of irrevocable trusts that deli placed CMKM certificates into?
Urban, Stoecklein and Moran never once attempted to stop deli from brokering _ did they?
Re: This has nothing to do with who was CMKM attorney. It's all about who knew what , and when .
I'm sorry!
Did the fact that Frizzell was not the CMKM attorney at that time of the deli fiasco fly over your head?
Or are you attempting to correlate Frizzell's past transactions and dealings as a liability for his current tenure?
Re: You're proving to be more clueless with every post . We're done with this nonsense for today .
Nah! I'm just calling out your crap!
Re: Go back and regroup. You're rapidly becoming unraveled. Did I share with you that I just replaced my mailbox with a brand spanking new one? I think it appropriate!!
You have a fun month during the month of April waiting for your payout check to be delivered in your brand new spanking mailbox. Although I do find it odd that you spank your mailbox!
And when April 30th comes and no check arrived: I'll be laughing at you!
And when you chenge the payout date to May; I'll be again be laughing at you!
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 9:33:50 GMT -5
By: bigfork2 04 Apr 2008, 10:08 AM EDT Msg. 696894 of 696906 (This msg. is a reply to 696882 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # Pedro,
I know that you're tasked with the responsibility for making snappy comebacks and you always insist on having the last word etc. But it's a sad state of affairs that you've gotten yourself into here on this board. Your negative agenda must be wearing thin. Your posts are filled with more and more bitterness lately. Are your worried about something? You might be thinking, what if they're right and I'm wrong? Oh well, too late now. The die is cast, your niche is secure.
Bigfork
By: bigfork2 04 Apr 2008, 10:22 AM EDT Msg. 696899 of 696904 (This msg. is a reply to 696897 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. #
Pedro, so that we're clear I don't think that Urban and Mahue are still involved in CMKM. I think they set up the frame work for future distributions through other vehicles. I think CMKM Diamonds is an empty shell currently domiciled in Texas run by the Tyler Group who represent the "none of your business" financiers.
I already told you I have not made any claims regarding payout dates or amounts. I go along with Bhollengg's viewpoint; "It's a matter of when / win." Those are my viewpoints. I understand that you don't share them.
Bigfork
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Post by soonerlew on Apr 4, 2008 9:35:19 GMT -5
By: falcjv 04 Apr 2008, 10:31 AM EDT Msg. 696902 of 696907 Jump to msg. # ot} Does anyone find it interesting that the attention on the BS collapse has now turned towards the short sellers? Did anyone see the april 2'nd news on Sara Lee and Coach Inc? Very interesting moves.
SAN FRANCISCO (Markethingych) -- The boards at Sara Lee Corp. and Coach Inc. have quietly tweaked the process for nominating directors or making proposals at annual meetings, a novel defensive move that aims to ferret out hedge funds or activist shareholders that might not have the company's best interests at heart.
Speaking of the FALC-JV, if the Orion could be worth approx 245 billion or more and the Star could be worth a Billion and the Taurus could be worth close to Orion, and they are building a Billion Dollar Hydro-dam, wouldn't that make someone question the old Urban claims? He was very busy in that area and seemed close to many of the companies up there.
Is this bigger than many think? Let's see what pedro has to say. His word is very respected on this basher board.
lol
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