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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 8:28:30 GMT -5
By: pontiyak 31 Aug 2008, 12:59 AM EDT Msg. 758968 of 758970 Jump to msg. # You can float all the notes ya want.......
eventually somebody calls in the note.....
and cash becomes king once again...
it's all relative...
we can wait..
yak
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 8:34:22 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney Mod SquadRe: Direct from Donald Stoecklein « Reply #193 Today at 5:20pm » And... here is Donald Stoecklein's response back to me.- Show Quote:From: Donald J. Stoecklein Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:52 AM To: Gary XXXX Subject: RE: Recent Correspondence with Shareholder Regarding CMKXGary: The main reason that I have not responded to numerous calls and emails is that there are so many CMKM shareholders with different interests. Additionally, we sometimes believe what we want to be the truth, as opposed to what the truth actually is. I recently responded to a request for information from a CMKM shareholder, which has information, I believe to be accurate, which is obviously being questioned as to its authenticity and/or its accurateness. I really don’t have the time to attempt to support my statements, nor do I have any motivation to generate inaccurate statements. As to your questions in your email; I don’t know what the real story is behind CMKM, as our firm and Bob Maheu were only brought into CMKM in January/February of 05, and were basically out in October of 05, when we determined that the accounting for CMKM could not be completed to a degree that an audit by a PCAOB auditor was possible. My only other involvement as been minor communication with Kevin West, the SEC, and a couple of CMKM shareholders, and the attorney for CMKM who was preparing the Interpleader over a year ago, and the fact that we still have in our Firms possession, the 45,000,000 share certificate for Entourage. As to the Interpleader, to my knowledge, nothing has happened. As to the shorts, I am personally unaware that any real action has occurred. As to CMKX Shareholders, I would like to see a distribution of the Entourage certificate. How and when that will happen is unknown to me. We merely hold the certificate, pending receipt of a subpoena to turn it over to a judicial authority, that we hope are seeking a distribution in the best interest of the shareholders. Roger Stelma may have spoken to me, I cannot recall, as over the past three years I have spoken to several alleged CMKM shareholders. I merely cannot recall the names of those individuals. Hope this is helpful, although no doubt many out there will doubt the authenticity of this email. Donald J. Stoecklein Stoecklein Law Group 402 West Broadway Suite 690 San Diego, CA 92101 Phone (619) XXX-XXXX Fax (619) XXX-XXX millionaires.proboards86.com/inde....d=21758&page=10
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 8:44:19 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney Mod SquadRe: Direct from Donald Stoecklein « Reply #193 Today at 5:20pm » And... here is Donald Stoecklein's response back to me.- Show Quote:From: Donald J. Stoecklein Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:52 AM To: Gary XXXX Subject: RE: Recent Correspondence with Shareholder Regarding CMKXGary: The main reason that I have not responded to numerous calls and emails is that there are so many CMKM shareholders with different interests. Additionally, we sometimes believe what we want to be the truth, as opposed to what the truth actually is. I recently responded to a request for information from a CMKM shareholder, which has information, I believe to be accurate, which is obviously being questioned as to its authenticity and/or its accurateness. I really don’t have the time to attempt to support my statements, nor do I have any motivation to generate inaccurate statements. As to your questions in your email; I don’t know what the real story is behind CMKM, as our firm and Bob Maheu were only brought into CMKM in January/February of 05, and were basically out in October of 05, when we determined that the accounting for CMKM could not be completed to a degree that an audit by a PCAOB auditor was possible. My only other involvement as been minor communication with Kevin West, the SEC, and a couple of CMKM shareholders, and the attorney for CMKM who was preparing the Interpleader over a year ago, and the fact that we still have in our Firms possession, the 45,000,000 share certificate for Entourage. As to the Interpleader, to my knowledge, nothing has happened. As to the shorts, I am personally unaware that any real action has occurred. As to CMKX Shareholders, I would like to see a distribution of the Entourage certificate. How and when that will happen is unknown to me. We merely hold the certificate, pending receipt of a subpoena to turn it over to a judicial authority, that we hope are seeking a distribution in the best interest of the shareholders. Roger Stelma may have spoken to me, I cannot recall, as over the past three years I have spoken to several alleged CMKM shareholders. I merely cannot recall the names of those individuals. Hope this is helpful, although no doubt many out there will doubt the authenticity of this email. Donald J. Stoecklein Stoecklein Law Group 402 West Broadway Suite 690 San Diego, CA 92101 Phone (619) XXX-XXXX Fax (619) XXX-XXX millionaires.proboards86.com/inde....d=21758&page=10 oreo DIAMOND JEDI Re: Direct from Donald Stoecklein« Reply #198 Yesterday at 11:12pm » These types of communiques are why I have & continue to think there comes a point (or past the point) of drawing a line in the sand... Soon (there's that word again...lol) we,cmkm shareholders will miss a prime oportunity to make great noise... if all is lost, then the least we should/could do is make sure every other voting american, especially with investments and retirement accts learn how badly we ALL have been had. It is a sorry state of affairs when all one can get is obfuscation and total BS that they and you know that they're full of cheet... and could care less... as if to say what do you want me to do about it? and/or as if to say, there's nothing you can do about it either? When I think in terms of state attorney generals - congressmen - lawyers - sec - doj - brokers - bankers etc... all the different players in this saga.. And no one can be man enough to step up to the plate and be HONEST and FORTHRIGHT... I hope and pray it is due to some incredible reason. Because from where I sit, what I have read etc... they've all had their roll in the deceit that had been called the stock play of a lifetime. All in my humble opinion, as an 'average joe.'
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 9:41:03 GMT -5
from the Millionaire Board... ty Oreo
oreo DIAMOND JEDI Public/Private Trustee...Formal/Informal Trust?? « Thread Started Today at 1:45am »
Stocklein wrote there was never a formal trust established for cmkm... which is what made me go down this path...
Q. is it fair to ask the question was/is their an informal trust established for cmkm?
Q. was a formal/informal trust established for cmkm shareholders BUT in anothe entity name?
Q. Is there an Administrative Trust in place for cmkm bonafide shareholders? (be it in cmkm name or otherwise?
for more info see: United States Trustee Program" - Title 18 of the US Code section 3057, which also applies to private trustees...
For those w/more patience w/a long read but worth the time see excerpts below and google this:
The Role of Private Trustees in Complex Claims Resolution (The Civil Trial: Adaptation and Alternatives)
“…This Article explores whether private persons, as opposed to a judge or, perhaps, another governmental official, should have the authority to exercise a high degree of discretion in developing standards for compensation and determining compensation awards for claimants. It is important to look directly at this issue because the question whether administrative trusts are an appropriate alternative to litigation cannot be answered without a discussion about the private persons who develop the compensation standards and administer an administrative trust and how they should be selected….”
“…Part I of this Article provides a brief history of the "hybridization of complex claims resolution." This discussion shows that the use of private persons to control the process of determining compensation levels is a natural outgrowth of the development of the "public law" model of litigation and the ensuing "privatization" of the dispute resolution process. What has emerged is a hybrid system in which mass claims litigation that is commenced in courts results in an administrative claims resolution facility with standards for determining compensation developed by and administered by private individuals…”
“… the Article rejects the argument that judicial adjudication is necessarily the superior means for resolving disputes. Rather, it suggests that administrative trusts run by private persons can provide a laboratory for innovative dispute resolution processes, the evolution of the law, and, ultimately, the fair administration of justice…”
“…emerged out of litigation of some kind, or the expectation of litigation, (6) Part II of the Article discusses who from the private realm should be chosen to run administrative trusts. It examines the degree of discretion that the trustees ought to enjoy and the degree of judicial supervision that ought to be required…”
“…Moreover, the essence of Judge Weinstein's argument as to why mass tort cases should be analogized to public law litigation is that such litigation has such a huge impact on the public at large….”
From: Goliath.ecnext.com
eureka1968 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: Public/Private Trustee...Formal/Informal Trust « Reply #3 Today at 9:15am »
Right on Oreo
Q. was a formal/informal trust established for cmkm shareholders BUT in anothe entity name?
Definetly not named CMKX or M. So none of them would be lying (in their eyes) for saying, they know of no trusts. Eric wray lied every time I called( What a Joke) so what these people say is meaningless.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 9:43:14 GMT -5
errrr.... Is Tyler on vacation or something??
john3339 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD And speaking of irrelevance: « Thread Started Yesterday at 8:20pm »
Anyone else notice the absence of the August info-bits from the tyler boys?
OK, OK, they still have about 24 hours in August. But the last one came out more than a month ago, on July 18th (I believe).
Ya think they finally decided that EVERYTHING is none of our business?
john
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 9:48:26 GMT -5
swather DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: It's Been A Pleasure (Acca related posts)« Reply #5421 Today at 12:42am »
its time someone filed a "freedom of information" request with the SEC that they reveal what info they have on a naked short position with CMKX
Oil.Ipo. DIAMOND JEDI Re: It's Been A Pleasure (Acca related posts) « Reply #5423 Today at 5:01am »
You hit the nail on the head if you mean " file/as in Subpoena "..otherwise GLTU;
REGARDING CMKM DIAMONDS INC., REVOKED STATUS/CMKX ( NEV CORP ); I had sent a well drafted letter asking for specific information relative to and not less than the amount/"DATA" on the naked short -on record- with the SEC or the DTCC , and all restitution, damages, or settlement pertaining to the shareholders of record. I mentioned all of the queried names that would have given any DOJ computer a 100% bulls-eye hit for any attachment of factoid.
The letters were initially sent to;
FOIA/PA Mail Referral Unit Department of Justice Room 115 LOC Building Washington, DC 20530-0001 (301) 583-7354
...-until I received my case history number, which I still have today as my souvenir (with another office number and title) like the SEC ATTORNEY that I contacted, and they at the DOJ appropriately have checked all of the boxes as a "nothing on file", nor can find, after 3 months of research of zero= anything of record.
I have contacted, or been contacted by other ALPHABET AGENCIES about other issues which where apparently spawned by my CMKM DIAMONDS inquiries to the DOJ, FBI, STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL, SENATOR, GOVERNOR, just to name a few.
It seems that this is not something that any computer has on its data base for some odd reason.
AIMHO2~
Oil
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 9:54:15 GMT -5
Interesting Observation..... OK Jay how about a post......... a chance to dispell this rumor??
urbanswarrior DIAMOND DIGGER Where Did Jay Adobe Go? « Thread Started Today at 8:30am »
And who is he? Email: Private Total posts written: 4752 Member since: Wednesday 2-Feb-2005 Location:
Robert A. Maheu Joins the Board of Directors of CMKM Diamonds Inc. Publication: Business Wire Date: Monday, January 31 2005
His last post By: jay_adobe 07 Jul 2008, 10:34 AM EDT Msg. 739853 of 758997 (This msg. is a reply to 739800 by jlecks.) Jump to msg. # jlecks, Things are surprisingly well, thanks for asking. I've no comment on what is happening. It is pretty much self-explanatory throughout the big picture of the financial market and situation. Just wait and see. IMO - - - - -
August 5, 2008 Robert Maheu, Howard Hughes’ alter ego, dies
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 10:04:11 GMT -5
It was Ric , from the Clubhouse Board, that said he heard the rumor that Barry Shipes (HND2HND) was to be the new CEO.
By: StoneRolling 31 Aug 2008, 08:05 AM EDT Msg. 758978 of 759028 Jump to msg. # I hear West is hiring yet another board loon and TOGI groupie for a position in CMKX. This is a farce...a kind of tragic comedy.
By: sully47 31 Aug 2008, 08:20 AM EDT Msg. 758979 of 759028 Jump to msg. # stone....he is just hiring his buds.... to slop from the same trough! WHAT A JOKE!
By: StoneRolling 31 Aug 2008, 08:41 AM EDT Msg. 758986 of 759028 (This msg. is a reply to 758979 by sully47.) Jump to msg. # sully: I agree. It shows a total lack of commitment to "moving the company forward" when the chairman is just picking people who are conveniently hanging around.
It's the same manner in which West was chosen by Urban.
I think it also shows that they are in this for the money, if any can be collected, and nothing more.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 10:13:24 GMT -5
It was Ric , from the Clubhouse Board, that said he heard the rumor that Barry Shipes (HND2HND) was to be the new CEO.By: StoneRolling 31 Aug 2008, 08:05 AM EDT Msg. 758978 of 759028Jump to msg. # I hear West is hiring yet another board loon and TOGI groupie for a position in CMKX. This is a farce...a kind of tragic comedy. By: sully47 31 Aug 2008, 08:20 AM EDT Msg. 758979 of 759028Jump to msg. # stone....he is just hiring his buds.... to slop from the same trough! WHAT A JOKE! By: StoneRolling 31 Aug 2008, 08:41 AM EDT Msg. 758986 of 759028(This msg. is a reply to 758979 by sully47.) Jump to msg. # sully: I agree. It shows a total lack of commitment to "moving the company forward" when the chairman is just picking people who are conveniently hanging around. It's the same manner in which West was chosen by Urban. I think it also shows that they are in this for the money, if any can be collected, and nothing more. and let's not forget about this errrr.... tidbit from Pedro, "I accept the nomination as CEO of CMKM Diamonds, Inc." By: lilburrito0 29 Aug 2008, 03:09 PM EDT Msg. 758050 of 758250 Jump to msg. # I accept the nomination as CEO of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. By: goodolboy27 29 Aug 2008, 03:12 PM EDT Msg. 758053 of 758250 (This msg. is a reply to 758050 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # lilburrito, how much are they going to pay you? Oh Yeah.... then we can count on getting "TRUTH" ...lol lol cmkxunofficial.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=mofo&action=display&thread=2547
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 10:26:03 GMT -5
By: ffgo-flim-flam 31 Aug 2008, 08:27 AM EDT Msg. 758982 of 759029 Jump to msg. # exactly what does the bod direct?
By: bankcollapse 31 Aug 2008, 08:31 AM EDT Msg. 758985 of 759029 (This msg. is a reply to 758982 by ffgo-flim-flam.) Jump to msg. # flim flam, that would be the "FORENSIC" team
By: bankcollapse 31 Aug 2008, 09:42 AM EDT Msg. 758999 of 759034 (This msg. is a reply to 758998 by ffgo-flim-flam.) Jump to msg. # flimmy "BALONEY CLEAVER" flammy, are you worried what the FORENSIC AUDITORS have discovered?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 10:29:54 GMT -5
OH wait !!.....What did we win??By: jabberjaw521 31 Aug 2008, 09:15 AM EDT Msg. 758992 of 759030Jump to msg. # I think we won this one, from what i've read....!!!!! Go CMKM..... Jab By: jonas-dclxxxii 31 Aug 2008, 09:52 AM EDT Msg. 759005 of 759031(This msg. is a reply to 758992 by jabberjaw521.) Jump to msg. # Jabberjaw- What exactly did you win??? ROTFLMFAO? By: jabberjaw521 31 Aug 2008, 09:55 AM EDT Msg. 759007 of 759032(This msg. is a reply to 759005 by jonas-dclxxxii.) Jump to msg. # jonas-dclxxxii, something you'll never know...!!!!! "Honor/Respect" for my neighbor..!!!!! By: jabberjaw521 31 Aug 2008, 09:28 AM EDT Msg. 758997 of 759033Jump to msg. # Comfort stocks: I was told that during the last Great Depression, Mining Stocks did the best and that those that were invested in them came out smelling like roses..!!!!! Go CMKM, and trust the counsel..!!!!! Respectfully, Jab (Later)
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 10:40:34 GMT -5
Hmmmm... who is Jabberjaw??By: jonas-dclxxxii 31 Aug 2008, 10:15 AM EDT Msg. 759016 of 759034(This msg. is a reply to 759014 by jabberjaw521.) Jump to msg. # Jabberjaw- The long arm of the law will never get your money back. "A fool and his money is soon parted". And you are a fool, you flaming idiot. By: jabberjaw521 31 Aug 2008, 10:28 AM EDT Msg. 759021 of 759034(This msg. is a reply to 759016 by jonas-dclxxxii.) Jump to msg. # jonas-dclxxxii, you really don't know who I am, but I can say my friends in law enforcement do and they will be coming for certain people soon.. That you can take to the bank.. Again I wouldn't want to be one of them.. Jab P.S. Let's see if I'm right, just give it some time.. It's coming soon...!!!!!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 10:46:12 GMT -5
By: factanonverba13 31 Aug 2008, 11:25 AM EDT Msg. 759030 of 759038 (This msg. is a reply to 758978 by StoneRolling.) Jump to msg. # If the culties expected anything else from Frizzy & West, they were dreaming ... as always. farce is a perfect word for this.
I hear West is hiring yet another board loon and TOGI groupie for a position in CMKX. This is a farce...a kind of tragic comedy I told ya' that the board would be stacked with stooges & lackeys.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 10:59:26 GMT -5
from the Millionaire board...... ty pennypauly
dicek18 DIAMOND JEDI Re: Direct from Donald Stoecklein « Reply #202 Today at 10:23am »
So Don Stoecklein holds our Entourage cert of 40 million shares.
ETGMF.OB closed at .05 cents on Friday.
40 million shares @ .05 cents = $2,000,000.00 or $2 Mil
The Entourage cert is worth $2 million.
If one were to divide $2 mil evenly amongst 55,000 shareholders, then $2,000,000 /55,000 = $36.36 each.
(However, that $36.36 per shareholder is not happening as all 55,000 shareholders do not each own an equal number of shares, which would be 13,309,000 shares per shareholder: 13,309,000 X 55,000 = 732,000,000,000).
Would someone owning 1 million shares deserve the same Entourage ROI as someone owning 200 million shares? Of course not.
But for the sake of argument, lets say that all 55,000 shareholders each own an equal number of shares: 13,309,000 per shareholder.
We're each looking at a $36.36 ROI from Entourage?
Thanks, but that's not a full tank of gasoline.
(Some with 200 million shares would get a return of about $546.40 - or maybe ten fillups of gasoline).
This cert was never meant to be cashed.
As many already believe, Entourage was just a place to stash CMKX claims.
So if Stoecklein gives the cert back, who does Entourage give the claims back to?
Tyler? I don't think that will happen - at least I hope it won't happen.
My guess is that DS is waiting for UC's hearing default to be completed by the SEC first, before DS returns the cert to Entourage.
That way, the claims will not potentially be a part of UC's default judgement - the claims not being in UC's possession - and possibly ordered to be returned to the company (Tyler).
I wish the SEC would hurry up. They are taking a long time to determine UC's default judgement.
Whatever they decide against Urban, it's most likely that the claims won't be a part of that judgement.
And then - hopefully - we'll be able to move forward from this stalemate.
john3339 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: Direct from Donald Stoecklein « Reply #204 Today at 10:44am »
Dice,
Read the latest financials from Entourage. The link is on the board somewhere.
When the ETGMF cert is returned to Entourage (as per the agreement), the financials say that the claims will revert back to the '1010" company - owned by Urban.
There are so many implications to that. And the ETGMF shares going back to Entourage is a given, based on the original contract. The claims going back to "1010" is also a given according to Entourage's latest financials.
It fits. UC hid the claims to protect them. The deal with Entourage was the cover to make the cert pull legitimate. The naked short was proved and this I'm sure, based on frizz claiming proof, and Helen Bagley saying ALL requests for certs would be honored.
Helen's response to the availability of certs also plays into the idea that the SEC was involved early on, giving permission to cert "fake" shares from the electronic markers.
Unless I am totally screwed up in my optimism, this all has been a deal long in the making, and now that the bits and pieces are falling together, I believe the end is near.
With penalties already set in precident, I'm convinced we wll get our payout, and it will be enough to make us more than happy.
The only question remaining is WHEN.
Why people exist to still give us grief and hopelessness is beyond me. But they are still here, and that bothers me. We should be getting official good news I should think, but nothing yet. And the latest from DS is disturbing. But the logic fits...the proofs shown are indisputable.
All I can think is we are in the window of opportunity.
Patience and faith. Can all those important people associated with CMKX be all for naught? Can the investment banks who sold BILLIONS of CMKX daily all be lilly white honest? Is the economic debacle REALLY caused by the sub-prime issue?
To me, there would have to be so many things gone wrong to make our investment truly worthless....I just can't accept it.
So I sit and wait...call BS when I see or read it...and believe in our ultimate GREAT outcome.
imo john
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 31, 2008 11:08:25 GMT -5
Hmmmm... who is Jabberjaw??By: jonas-dclxxxii 31 Aug 2008, 10:15 AM EDT Msg. 759016 of 759034(This msg. is a reply to 759014 by jabberjaw521.) Jump to msg. # Jabberjaw- The long arm of the law will never get your money back. "A fool and his money is soon parted". And you are a fool, you flaming idiot. By: jabberjaw521 31 Aug 2008, 10:28 AM EDT Msg. 759021 of 759034(This msg. is a reply to 759016 by jonas-dclxxxii.) Jump to msg. # jonas-dclxxxii, you really don't know who I am, but I can say my friends in law enforcement do and they will be coming for certain people soon.. That you can take to the bank.. Again I wouldn't want to be one of them.. Jab P.S. Let's see if I'm right, just give it some time.. It's coming soon...!!!!! From the Conglomerate Board... seems Jabber is excited and is spreading the word !!By: jabberjaw521 31 Aug 2008, 09:00 AM EDT Msg. 33777 of 33784Jump to msg. # ""Good Morning all Conglomerates"" Hopefully our day is coming very soon..!!!! Respectfully, Jab By: radioguts 31 Aug 2008, 09:59 AM EDT Msg. 33780 of 33784(This msg. is a reply to 33779 by jabberjaw521.) Jump to msg. # Jabber, one thing is proven for sure: If there are no enforced regulations on NSS then the hedge funds will not police themselves. How could you fall for such a myth, yet here you are waiting for justice over NSS Crimes ? Human nature needs to be checked, at the top and at the bottom, Yes we need regulations and we need enforcement of them. By: jabberjaw521 31 Aug 2008, 10:20 AM EDT Msg. 33781 of 33784(This msg. is a reply to 33780 by radioguts.) Jump to msg. # radioguts, from what I understand the forensic audit is already complete, and if that be true then they already know who the guilty parties are..!!!!! I sure wouldn't want to be part of that..!!!!! VR Jab
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