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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 10, 2009 15:53:38 GMT -5
ty...seagull « Reply #1 Today at 6:18am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: HawkeyeA Little old but I just came across this and thought I would bring it here to share. Hawk Tired_O_Workin's MP3 - Call to the SEC « Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 12:41:39 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired_O_Workin's MP3 - Call to the SEC and confirmed payment. Jan.29, 2009 www.zshare.net/audio/5475361934ba45d1/-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heres another, winchesterman Newbie Posts: 12 CMKM Diamonds payout « on: March 31, 2009, 08:40:49 AM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "sheliayea" was told by Hakala SEC CMKX Investigation will be over end of this month (today) and there will be "official settlements" and money would be coming from more than just edwards. twobits10 Diamond Finder Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT! « Reply #234 Today at 1:39pm » well, concerning "tired of working" mp3...it's not a taped call to the sec, it's just what he says.....i seriously doubt any SEC employee in California has any information about CMKX settlement...only a handful in Washington know....Hakala is not one of them...she told me that she knew nothing about what Washington was doing, that she only did what she was told, when she was told to do it....so, treffy, (tired of working) didn't say who in california he talked too, therefore, i wouldn't put any weight on his figures.
Hakala is not in control of our settlement, again, she is just a cog in the wheel. i would bet that if you called Hakala tomorrow, she wouldn't tell you the investigation is over....Hakala does not have the authority to give any caller information over the phone.....this is government protocal folks...
2bits
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 10, 2009 15:54:10 GMT -5
sptrader DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: What do UC, EK and KW have in common? « Reply #8 Today at 9:36am » Kevin explained the promissory note on one of Mark's radio shows, many months back- (I think Kevin only appeared on a couple of them, so it shouldn't be too hard to find) jmho actually, I believe this was addressed in an email from Kevin.... where Kevin sticks "FOOT IN MOUTH AGAIN" the email.....Hi Mike, Hope all is well for you and your family.
The note that you are seeing is factual although the April 29th date is a typo on the “Letter of Understanding” page. It was signed on the same day as the promissory note as an addendum to the promissory note on March 29, 2007.
Mr. Koch was unaware that Urban used his name on this note and has disclaimed anything to do with it.
As he has always done, Mr. Casavant lied to me about the monies he said were owed him just like he has done to all of the other shareholders with just about everything he has ever said. I signed this note well before we were given undeniable evidence of Mr. Casavant’s conversion of Company funds by one of his former attorneys when Company records were requested. If I would have known these facts beforehand, I would have never even entered into such an agreement.
On the evening before signing over the Company to me, Mr. Casavant hit me with a lie about having paid several attorneys out of his pocket on behalf of the Company. He said that he wanted a note from the Company to repay these “loans” that he made to the Company out of personal funds. He named the attorneys one by one and followed up with the amounts paid along with an extra $1,100,000 thrown in for good measure under the pretense of “travel, food and lodging”. Mr. Casavant promised that he would be able to provide proof of payments along with proof that the funds were personal funds belonging to him outside of CMKM. As you know by now and as we found out a few short weeks later, Mr. Casavant never had any personal funds involved with this Company. Everything he has and has obtained since the Company was started was from money derived from the illegal issue and sales of CMKM stock. 100% FACT as can be evidenced by court documents already filed against him!
This note is 100% void because of the above. The Company has absolutely no intention of ever even considering this note. We are about to hit Mr. Casavant with a multi-million dollar judgment that will absolutely swallow the amount that this note was written for.
I find it very sad that he would continue to use people to try and make himself look innocent when the facts showing his fraudulent activities are insurmountable. I find it very hard to believe that shareholders would continue to look at anything coming from this man as credible. Again, Mr. Casavant seems to be trying to find a way to keep some of the shareholders on his side regardless of what he is putting them through emotionally.
Sincerely, Kevin and proof of "FOOT IN MOUTH"lowriderbill DIAMOND DIGGER Re: Maybe this will clarify David Jmar's and Spude « Reply #13 Yesterday at 9:50pm » 1) What day was the company handed over? 2) What day was the note signed? 3) What day was the conversion of domicile? 4) If it's a typo, then why does it say "Under the laws of Texas"? answers1. March 29th, 2007 2. March 29th & April 29th 2007 3. Convert Out on 4/27/2007 4. Someone's lying?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 10, 2009 15:54:55 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 10 May 2009, 03:28 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832027 of 832037
Jump to msg. # sunny, but back to the 17b. if that's true then some of the big numbers thrwon about on the boards for years, like 54 cents and higher fall within the realm of possibility. when we were at 622b shares and talking those numbers they made no sense. but now that we might be down around 17b shares (still a very big number) we can all at least get our head around a number like $5b or $10b or $10b, which would put a payout settlement within sights of a 20 cent payout or even a 50 cent payout, which would be HUGE!
like mquietstorm3 has said for years, a asked for a penny and found that life would be pay far more. so maybe we are looking at 50 cents?!!
By: sunnydaysmo 10 May 2009, 03:49 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832035 of 832037 (Reply to 832027 by rosencrantz2010)
Jump to msg. # Rosencrantz, I agree that the payout rumors are more plausible at 17B. No worries. $-) Sunny
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 10, 2009 15:58:53 GMT -5
By: stockrich0 10 May 2009, 12:57 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 831995 of 832005 Tyler = Interpleader.... Instead of walking into court and having a judge sign-off on a list that would have been challenged 'every which way' for years to come. "They" [whoever they are] created a 'live action' interpleader; equipped with court cases, declaration of un-reg. settlements. Everything necessary to legally split off the bonafides, and get rid of bad guys. This was undoubltedly, the long way, but I suspect they saw problems with the interpleader, and needed a more concrete solution. I don't think it is a coincidence that all of the activity of Tyler accomplished the exact same end, we expected with Interpleader. Stockrich By: Bellingus 10 May 2009, 04:20 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832038 of 832044 (Reply to 831995 by stockrich0) Jump to msg. # You're half right... the interplead is more than ironclad, however, Tyler had nothing to do with it...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 10, 2009 16:00:06 GMT -5
By: tuscan9 10 May 2009, 04:47 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832043 of 832044 (Reply to 831995 by stockrich0)
Jump to msg. # The Friend of the Shareholder??
since when did FAULK..Frizz..Martin decide they were the friend of the shareholder?
they seem to ask when they want... and SLAM with a big mouth for years.. ... get real..........
TRUST..........I don't think so......lol
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Post by chris on May 10, 2009 17:40:35 GMT -5
Tuscan is pulling out the hardrive from her computer; do not disturb her frame of mind
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Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2009 20:40:04 GMT -5
By: sportsman93306 10 May 2009, 04:21 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832039 of 832183
Jump to msg. # BUT THE TASK FORCE DID RECIEVE OVER 600 BILLION SHARES FAXED TO THEM BY SHAREHOLDERS. SO, WHO FAXED THEM OVER 600 BILLION SHARES IN CERTIFIED FORMS.THOSE CERTIFICATES WERE ISSUED BY TRANSFER AGENTS. SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY FOR THOSE SHARES NO MATTER WHAT. WHO WILL PAY THEM? WHO OWNS 17 BILLION SHARES? US THE SHAREHOLDERS WHO OWNS OTER ,OVER 600 BILLIONSHARES? WHO PAYS THEM TO WIPE OUT? HOW MUCH 'THEY' WOULD PAY FOR OVER 600 BILIONS.?CAN'T BE 50 CENTS A SHARE(WHO WILL PAY 300 BILLION DOLLARS FOR THOSE SHARES?)
ANY TAKE ON THESE QUESTIONS. THANKS SPORTSMAN
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Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2009 20:41:09 GMT -5
By: monetaryshift 10 May 2009, 07:15 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832090 of 832183
Jump to msg. # FACT! there are very very few bona fides on this board. and i know each and every one of them.
so keep working it negative ones, your days are numbered now
wishing you the very best
you will need it
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Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2009 20:47:27 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 10 May 2009, 07:52 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832130 of 832184 (Reply to 832089 by stkupnc)
Jump to msg. # monetary, i'm with stkupnc on this question. what's being said doesn't make sense. we all want to believe it but we can't figure out how they are going to cancel 622B shares.
it will be great if they do, but if those 622B were sold to average investors like you and i then how do they throw them away?
how do we get down to 17B?
By: monetaryshift 10 May 2009, 07:54 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832131 of 832184 (Reply to 832125 by rosencrantz2010)
Jump to msg. # rosen, that seems like a very logical and straight forward thought and question. maybe you should ask sharasilva or 3-dog-potty mouth or jumbopet that question.
for some reason they get really really upset over that same one
let me know how you make out
tia
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Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2009 20:49:24 GMT -5
By: monetaryshift 10 May 2009, 08:13 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832155 of 832184 (Reply to 832147 by rosencrantz2010)
Jump to msg. # rosen,
do you remember the guy on the "Phantom Shares" piece that showed on Bloomberg in 2007? remember how he purchased 110% of the shares in the company? how is that possible?
imagine if that was done on a massive scale with hundreds of accounts?
imagine if the company was doing that....the money would just make one big circle and never actually leave. but in the end, exactly how many shareholders would there really be?
I know thats crazy. What the heck, this is a discussion board right. Let's discuss it
By: rosencrantz2010 10 May 2009, 09:11 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832177 of 832186 (Reply to 832155 by monetaryshift)
Jump to msg. # monetary, thanks for giving me an idea but i still need to figure it out. let me walk through it by talking through it with myself.
1. urban opens an account under the name urb smith and buys 1b shares.
2. urban opens another account named urb thomas and buys 1b shares.
3. repeat the above 1,000 times. lol
okay, but urban still had to pay for all those shares and shorty had to sell all those illegal shares.
that's fine. but when it comes time to figure things out, wouldn't urban be able to show XXX number of shares and demand the certs? and the only people that could pay up would be shorty. wouldn't shorty still have to pay up, that is pay urban, to cover the naked short? wouldn't shorty have to pay urban to cover the naked short so shorty could get the cert to give to urban?
maybe i'm missing a step?
it makes sense to me that urban would have the cert AFTER shorty was forced to pay for the naked short. but i don;t see how shorty would NOW have the actual cert.
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Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2009 20:49:50 GMT -5
By: planter82 10 May 2009, 08:14 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832156 of 832185
Jump to msg. # did Richy really say 5 bucks?
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Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2009 20:51:06 GMT -5
By: monetaryshift 10 May 2009, 08:21 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832163 of 832185
Jump to msg. # yup, it's pretty simple
622 billion- click- delete
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Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2009 20:52:42 GMT -5
By: stkupnc 10 May 2009, 08:15 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832158 of 832185 (Reply to 832150 by snoopstock5)
Jump to msg. # Snoop, I'm sure there registered. That's why I'm trying to get clarification in the 17B that keeps getting thrown around. The numbers just don't make sense to me.
By: snoopstock5 10 May 2009, 08:39 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832175 of 832185 (Reply to 832158 by stkupnc)
Jump to msg. # Yes they do. Look at the numbers below:
UC and family still own 8,902,300,000
Other companies still owning S-restricted shares over 9,600,000,000
UC bought back 16.5b, 1.8b, 4.4b, 9.02b, 6.6b = 38.32b
622 billion shares that the SEC has declared unregistered.
Over 17 billion difference of taskforce and unregistered shares
703,000,000,000 O/S 622,000,000,000 unregistered 8,902,300,000 UC and family were not participating in the divy of Entourage Mining. Meaning, their shares were not part of the taskforce numbers. 9,600,000,000 Other companies that held restricted shares 17,000,000,000 difference between unregistered and registered certs received by the taskforce 38,320,000,000 Shares UC bought back
Not sure if the 9.6 billion shares were part of the Entourage divy. If they were, it would make the O/S at 17 billion + 8.9 billion = 25.9 billion.
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Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2009 20:55:16 GMT -5
By: monetaryshift 10 May 2009, 09:29 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 832181 of 832186 Jump to msg. # when does tyler delete the 622B?
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Post by soonerlew on May 11, 2009 6:36:34 GMT -5
By: stockrich0 10 May 2009, 09:44 PM EDT Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 832184 of 832234
Jump to msg. # Monetary, you know why I feel trapped?...
Because, not knowing 'how much and when' we can't do anything.
We don't know if [amount] is a lot, or a little. We've heard from .005
to $5.00. The plan would be tremendously different for the huge variation
in amounts that we have heard. As far as dates go, we don't know if it's
next week, next month, next year...how do you plan around that.
That's really the most frustrating thing for me. On one hand, I NEED to be
ready...BUT READY FOR WHAT?
If I was told, "You will receive .10 cents a share in January 2010." I could
start a whole plan of activity in preparation of what was coming...and be
READY when it happened.
Right now, I truly feel many of us could be in jeopardy if the amount is
very large and we have no preparation for such a task.
Stockrich.
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