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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 5, 2009 23:57:00 GMT -5
Yesterday at 4:13pm, marcel50 wrote: Anyone know if there are more Court cases pertaining to CMKM on the roster or was the one naming Urban (Aug/31/09) the last one ? If they are still collecting money from numerous offenders ...... Well , to state the obvious ....... more waiting. Hope that it was the last one. Labour Day long weekend ..... have a great weekend everybody !
portrush Mod Squad Re: The Buzz Chat 8/31/09 « Reply #65 Yesterday at 9:10pm » No news of the Grand Jury having come to a final conclusion. (Charyn Aldred)
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 5, 2009 23:57:42 GMT -5
y: bigdaddie 04 Sep 2009, 07:54 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 39223 of 39226
Jump to msg. # to the SEC, i know you folks monitor all the CMKX boards..........
You can spin this any way you wish, but the facts are known by thousands of CMKX investors..........
If it wasn't for Urban Casavant, you SLUGS would still be stealing your BILLIONS per year from the American Public. Thank God someone with the Brass showed up to Destroy your Corruption.
I laugh at your feeble attempt to take credit
By: jcline 05 Sep 2009, 02:25 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 39225 of 39226 (Reply to 39223 by bigdaddie)
Jump to msg. # Just alil incompetence bigdaddie, just alil incompetence. No biggie...heh!
Even family of the SEC unit getting notice of the Madoff fraud put 2Mil. into it. Now they are cryin!
Slugs is a good analogy! We have a lot of them here in the northwest. They leave a slime trail after they have ravaged that which was meant to sustain, they serve no real purpose, and when you pour salt on them (salt of the earth) they begin to disintegrate into nothing.
I'd like to see that happen to an agency that still allows fraud to continue to this day. They can't use the incompetence excuse for long though.
Someone has to serve as "salt of the earth".
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 0:00:32 GMT -5
By: duck-duck-goose 05 Sep 2009, 09:50 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 864859 of 865130
MAY 29- troutback: davidjmar was given that citigroup link by allen treffery he said
troutback: sheilayea1: Salty said he believes it is a good way to bring an unregistered security thru the back door elgumd: sheila, IYO is that the sec release we have been waiting for?
sheilayea1: David , it has to be tied to USCN
sheilayea1: yes elgumd
troutback: marcouey_1: Hey Clark ... Richy is here and would like to know ... If you heard anything yesterday ... Timmins contact feels you should of had a phone call
marcouey_1: OR some type of contact of some sort ... Most likely from Europe
marcouey_1: and Not from Woodan
marcouey_1: little humor about the wodan part
clark_83: marcouey i did and at this time your timeline is very possible
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 0:01:25 GMT -5
By: eaglesrock2008 05 Sep 2009, 05:18 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 865044 of 865131
OPEN PIT MINES!!$$$$Diamonds,Oil ,Uranium, zinc,MINERALS , JV/conglomerate- Walker vs walker suits- shore is strange! lol (Largest Diamond field in the world)
Thank you SEC for giving the token fall guy a parking ticket in a country where he doesnt park his car!
4 get da past!! and Look at the future $$$$$
We WON!!!!! But tell the fed that banks still has derivativ-itis lol
cant wait to buy those jv cmkm related stocks under a buck!
(Bashers Urban ISNT IN JAIL what happened? lmao)
lOOKS LIKE SOMEONE MADE A FEDERAL CASE OUT OF THEIR MESS IN TYLER?
A CMKX/CMKX DAMAGED SHAREHOLDER!!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 0:02:50 GMT -5
By: rleggett1945 05 Sep 2009, 12:43 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 864989 of 865131
Just a quick question that has been nagging me...how does the SEC intend to collect any monies from Urban when we (CMKM Diamonds) have a restraining order against all of Urban's assets in the Nevada court...and we are still awaiting the Nevada courts final order of default against Urban after he was served via publication over a year or so ago? Am I wrong on any of the above assumptions?
Roberto
By: jonathonanders 05 Sep 2009, 08:02 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 865096 of 865131 (Reply to 864989 by rleggett1945)
rleggett,
Doubt the sec ever really tries. In this case, much rather the company gets it than the SEC. They KEEP almost half of these judgements.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 0:08:02 GMT -5
thanks......speedomodelisback Diamond Finder <math is way off, add three zeros before the decimal, but interesting>
By: thomascr Re: NEW JUDGEMENT ON URBAN & ALL OTHERS « Reply #37 Today at 4:09am »
was reading to days final judgement: this is what I like about it:
Casavant shall not, 18 after offset or reduction of any award of compensatory damages in any Related 19 Investor Action based on Casavant's payment of disgorgement in this action, argue 20 that he is entitled to, nor shall he further benefit by, offset or reduction of such 21 compensatory damages award by the amount of any part of Casavant's payment of 22 a civil penalty in this action ("Penalty Offset")
For purposes of this paragraph, a "Related Case 2:08-cv-00437-LRH-RJJ Document 129 Filed 09103/2009 Page 8 of 8 1 Investor Action" means a private damages action brought against Casavant by or 2 on behalf of one or more investors based on substantially the same facts as alleged 3 in the Complaint in this action
My personal take is:
UC has to pay 3150000 USD disgorgement + 31500000 penalty = 63 000 000 USD for basically selling some 800 000 000 unregistered shares; that should calculate and result into "private damages" of some 0.07875 USD per share; not calculating Edwards etc; if the SEC keeps the penalty amount then we should get at lease half that amount; then: claims go/went into "NewCorp" ( as in "General Settlement" earlier ) ; worked by most likely Shore Gold and/or others etc; therefor possible future royalties;
with this judgement the SEC is home free and we have a reason to receive a disgorgement (Investor Action) and we can move on as Investors still owning our certs; ( considering released "General Settlement" ); IMO
--------- Next one! from Final Judgment:
The Commission may by motion propose a plan to distribute the Fund 12 subject to the Court's approval. Such a plan may provide that the Fund shall be 13 distributed pursuant to the Fair Fund provisions of Section 308(a) of the Sarbanes14 Oxley Act of2002. Regardless of whether any such Fair Fund distribution is 15 made, amounts ordered to be paid as civil penalties pursuant to this Judgment shall 16 be treated as penalties paid to the government for all purposes, including all tax 17 purposes. To preserve the deterrent effect of the civil penalty, Casavant shall not, 18 after offset or reduction of any award of compensatory damages in any Related 19 Investor Action based on Casavant's payment of disgorgement in this action, argue 20 that he is entitled to, nor shall he further benefit by, offset or reduction of such 21 compensatory damages award by the amount of any part of Casavant's payment of 22 a civil penalty in this action ("Penalty Offset").
what I further like is:
- "including all tax purposes" ok - tax issues out of the way - as in settlements there are no tax liabilities due
and further
- "Casavant shall not - after offset" after offset - meaning UC faces no further penalty nor prosecution (such as civil nor criminal ); he is not entitled to any participation of upcoming disgorgement; we have known for a long time already that: it is "all for the shareholders"!
- Related Investor Action - what has Frizzel and West / Tyler been doing? Exactly that!No?
Isn't the puzzle coming together here? IMO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 0:09:23 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 05 Sep 2009, 06:29 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 865071 of 865131
it is sept 5th 2009, exactly five years to the day the sec got the fraud records from the silver state bank
By: gusjarvis 05 Sep 2009, 06:55 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 865081 of 865131
so what happened after sept 5th 2004, what did bob say after the fraud was busted and on the internet, what did he say knowing bill frizzell the bulldog was on the case and already knew of the silver state bank fraud subpoenas as did everyone on the boards. He came on right at the same time as bill, right after the boards heard urban committed fraud through the silver state bank records.
This is what bob said after that:
"Solving problems has been my occupation for many years,"
"Tough assignments are not solved by wishful thinking, but rather by tough action." A new team of securities attorneys has been instructed that their prime assignment is to correct any deficiencies of the past and to cooperate fully with regulatory bodies both in Canada and the United States to minimize the possibility of such deficiencies in the future.”
"Like the SEC, protecting our investors is a primary concern. We have been aggressively gathering the essential information needed to comply with our public disclosure obligations and anticipate working with the SEC to ensure our compliance with all federal regulations,"
"We are not letting these regulatory matters impede our primary focus of creating stockholder value through the mining and development of our mineral assets,"
"When I joined the board one of my prime assignments was to improve corporate compliance. A prime component was to reinstate reporting status, which was efficiently and expeditiously handled by the Stoecklein Law Group,"
"We are extremely appreciative of Stoecklein Law Group's immediate attention to our needs. I have worked with them in the past and they have always exceeded my expectations,".
“When I initially took on the assignment of assisting CMKM with its compliance needs, of primary concern was doing the right thing for the stockholders.”
"I am fully committed to protecting the interests of bona fide CMKM stockholders, including if necessary, bringing appropriate federal or state court actions to ensure the appropriate distribution of the Entourage shares is made.”
“We faced a tremendous number of hurdles, including the trading halt, administrative hearing and let down of numerous professionals. However, with the continued commitment of Urban Casavant and diligent professionalism of Stoecklein Law Group, we are trying to overcome the obstacles of the past and look forward into the future towards distributing value to CMKM's bona fide stockholders.”
"This is a time for the CMKM stockholders to look forward towards the future and forget the past. Working as a united front will allow us to extract all available sources of value for distribution."
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 0:10:06 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Remeber this statement in an email?? ..... still wondering wth Hakala meant by "for strategic reasons". I Emailed her numerous times asking her to explain.... but she chose to ignore, juat as with many other questions I emailed to her. Paid servant ... Not doing her job?[/glow]
By: aladin99 05 Sep 2009, 06:36 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 865074 of 865131 $34,689,433.62 without freezing assets...
By: whitem@sec.gov &hakalal@sec.gov
~We have not sought an asset freeze in this case, for strategic reasonSSSSSSSS that I cannot discuss.~
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 9:00:25 GMT -5
ty seagull
By: funado Re: NEW JUDGEMENT ON URBAN & ALL OTHERS « Reply #33 Yesterday at 11:01pm »
I think just the fact that Emerson Koch is working with Tyler to turn our claims into a new corporation that CMKM Diamonds will own 80% of is pretty good evidence that Urban has always been working on our behalf.
Things point to a very successful conclusion for all bonafide CMKX shareholders. And for that, imo, we have Urban to thank.
If it weren't for Urban and his foresight, those claims would have gone into other hands long ago. I'm just anxious to see what they hold, and what it's going to mean for us all.
I suspect we'll be pleasantly surprised.
Funado
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 9:05:50 GMT -5
ty seagull By: starlight Re: NEW JUDGEMENT ON URBAN & ALL OTHERS « Reply #32 Yesterday at 9:54pm » --------------------------------------------------------------- During the summer of 2005 StarFire shared with me that she was told that "when all was said and done that Urban would have to take the fall." That was 4 years ago... and that sure looks like it was scripted from day one if you ask me...!!! Things are not always as they appear to be... especially with CMKX....!!! I have never doubted... not for one minute... that Urban has been there for us shareholders every step of the way...!!! Why would Urban have had his good friend Hugo Cancio of Fuego Entertainment document every moment of this ongoing drama in a documentary entitled, "One Million Millionaires" (the story of Urban Casavant's dream of making one million millionaires) if this story was not going to have a happy ending.... Urban, You're my Hero...!!! Cheers!! Starlight
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 9:11:38 GMT -5
winningways DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: OT? Shore Gold NEWS « Reply #7 on Sept 4, 2009, 7:44am » Well, I always had a feeling that Shore was further along than we thought. I was doing a search last night on Cree Nation Canada Mining Saskatchewan and found this: www.northeastrna.ca/?q=node/27Go down to the diamond section and look at the Shore Gold report. A mine may be in production soon.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 9:19:15 GMT -5
By: calvinwinters 06 Sep 2009, 07:49 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 865137 of 865142
Jump to msg. # When you see what others dont....
Years ago we thought we'd never see the word Naked Shorting in print. Never on the nightly news, or from any investing show.
Now the entire family of this corruption is placed before us.
We've even been surprized at its size.
Now to await a settlement, a correction of the wrong.
At a time when so little seems to be going in the right direction.
Thanks to all of you, the big and the small...... cal
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Post by speedomodelisback on Sept 6, 2009 13:47:29 GMT -5
Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #137 on Sept 2, 2009, 8:23am » ]By: jboydwv 01 Sep 2009, 03:53 PM EDT
By: Bellingus 16 Jul 2009, 06:15 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 38866 of 38874
legal milestones... em
By: Bellingus 17 Jul 2009, 07:35 AM EDT
This one, a Baby Boomer classic, hit number three... on the Billboard charts in the first week of September of 1966...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vprDWPBDIxQ (See You In September By The Happenings)
Interesting, he (Bellingus) made this post on July 7th, too: By: Bellingus 07 Jul 2009, 06:46 AM EDT Rating: post rating 0 Rate this post: Msg. 38760 of 39239 Jump to msg. # One of my favorites... www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfLEc09tTjI( September by Earth, Wind, & Fire)
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 16:49:12 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 06 Sep 2009, 01:10 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 865188 of 865233
Jump to msg. # At an information meeting in May 2008, Shore Gold said that they have many contracts with businesses in Nipawin and surrounding areas. They also employ about 300 people in northeast Saskatchewan and recently set up several bus stop locations in Melfort, Nipawin, Tisdale, Fairy Glen and Prince Albert where employees can catch a bus to the exploration sites. A mine may be in production in 2011.(6)
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2009 16:54:22 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 06 Sep 2009, 02:00 PM EDT interesting old conversation
gusjarvis Board Addict HOW DID THE DTC GET OVER 500 BILLION IN CERTS
ANYONE? come on it's easy.
phxgold Ace of Diamonds member is offline
they boughtem
gusjarvis Board Addict
they bought them from who and for how much. The funny thing is that the double cover theory was made fun of for soooo long, but was infact right. The DTC was the first to cover in my opinion, and they cover with our share raises that were surrendered almost immediately. And phxgold, since you are here a question. Those share raises that were surrendered , around five hundred billion are part of the issued and outstanding right, which alone proves the naked short already in my opinion. And I keep posting the info from george burns when he was a pumper, the run ups on gemm and ucad equaled 590 billion shares of cmkx, wow look at the numbers we are at and the shares to be added. if company insiders profited from those share raises, even if they bought them back, that is fraud and there would have already been a warrant out for some arrest I would think. Where is the warrant for urban and john edwards, hmmm. Granny's sock drawer was the DTC, the rest of the shares got retired or there will be trouble from what I hear. If you raise a public companies shares for the sole purpose of making money for insiders that is fraud.
phxgold Ace of Diamonds
ill say it again you cannot find a single issuance to cede and co. directly from the company to raise capital. since 2002 before uc came along. see. every shares issued had a name on it. every share issuance can be traced to a certificate issued to a person not to cede. from start to finish. every share started in someones hands directly from the company in cert form. either the sec ignored thousands if not hundreds of thousands of violations of rule 144 or something else is happening. Pedro posted some info about the share releases from the a/s increase to 800b but quickly removed it as it proved the shares were issued to specific individuals in cert form in canada. and not dumped by the co on the market. but that proved something other than his point. once realized it was removed quickly. much like the actions of the dtcc on their site.
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