By: aladin99
26 Sep 2009, 09:10 AM EDT
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DOJ missed so many...why??? U decide it!
Key Players:
John Edwards AKA: Ian McIntyre
Ginger Guiterrez
James Kinney
Kathleen and Anthony Tomasso
Helen Bagley
Daryl Anderson
Sergey Rumyantsev
Anthony Santos
Brian Dvorak
Urban Casavant
Carolyn Casavant
Wesley Casavant
Ron Casavant
Vic Casavant
Ryan Casavant
Trevor Casavant
Max Casavant
Ray Casavant
Kyle Casavant
Marina Casavant
Harvey Casavant
Justin Casavant
Felix Casavant
Gerry Casavant
Dale Casavant
Denise Casavant
Chantelle Casavant
Craig Casavant
Brandy Casavant
Brad Casavant
Albert Casavant
Beverly Casavant
Bill Dwyer
Cindy Dwyer
Eric Reid
Margaret Reid
Jay McFadden
David Bending
Mark Hutchison
Rick Taulli
Mike King
Dr. Rupert A. I. Perrin M.D.
Dave Desormeau
Corey Klassen
Robert Maheu
Melvin O'Neil
Andy Hill
Emerson Koch
John Dhonau
Nevada Minerals
Randell Williams
U.S. Canadian Minerals
Juina Mining Corporation
Crystalix Group International, Inc.
St. George Metals, Inc.
United Carina Resources Corp.
Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp.
Rick Walker
Shane Resources
1st Global Stock Transfer, LLC.
Nev West
Business Works, Inc.
Part Time Management
Peter Dunn
Wallace Giebelhaus
Dave Gutka
Grant Hodgins
Timothy Cammell
Vince Mazzei
Allan Moen
Adam Barnett
Anita Cohen
Lawyers involved:
Brian Dvorak
Thomas C. Cook
Roger Glenn
David Liston
Gordon Balon
E. Brent Bryson
Peter S. Christiansen
Kjeld Werbes
Charles McCrea
Mark R. Moskowitz
Greenberg Traurig LLP
Steve Oshins
Donald Stoecklein
Donald J. Stoecklien
Daniel J. Horwitz
Gerald W. Griffin
David Z. Chesnoff
John T. Moran III
Harold Gewerter
By: oil.ipo
26 Sep 2009, 06:52 PM EDT
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Aladin; With all due respect, this investigation smells like fish guts caught in the WSJ newspaper printing press. If this were really a DOJ "investigation" dealing in alleged crime then it would have commenced around say... no later than Spring 2006?? Respectable Investors of record would not be sitting with big fat rumors de jour. The only real tangible PAYMENT/SETTLEMENT proof that the shareholders have of fraud today, and their ticket to ride is their stock certificates in hand. Been there done that AS evidenced. As long as they hold onto them all will be fine, IMHO. That, and I really wouldn't stop any action that is currently ongoing to represent the true shareholder interests (by some) for better transparency until notification is well on their doorsteps. There is no way of truly knowing if all of these legal actions (DOJ) are a step by step fast track leading up to shareholder restitution, or if this is some sort of a stall tactic/mind play to deter legal activity by the shareholders. Just look at the process, timing, individuals of question (only), paltry amounts, lack of transparency, lack of NS information. No one has that answer either. One would hope that the shareholders stand in the way of Mining progress and that situation needs to be rectified pronto, and could only mean satisfy the shareholders financially . NS not cleaned off until shareholders are paid off. It stands to better reasoning/ judgment + not any phony legal judgment.
And then there is Madoff's victims list still waiting... Let some of us hope that the phony plea date, before a court date and then in between an even stranger questionnaire date would only yield negative responses in itself with the lack of any financial closure as in now. That and a civil payment would help (shareholders) ASAP with some excuse to pay it, of course.
AIMVHO2~
Oil
By: oil.ipo
27 Sep 2009, 10:40 AM EDT
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"You will have to jump through hoops before actually receiving payments ........."
SPOOK01; (GRHS)
equivalent of - Certified mail service notice of whatever the cover story is, merger, acquisition, or buy out from such entity(s).
*Sign acceptance offer.
The DOJ has a format for fraud victims/ criminal nature, and CMKM DIAMONDS SHAREHOLDERS will remain victims of that fraud for future reference. That reference must be limited to those crimes that involve specific actions of definitive scope and liability. Not to include outside entities (other than mentioned within) nor further Federal prosecution. Possible signature that limits future legal action..
These shareholders might be needed in order to help the DOJ build a data base for that criminal investigation documenting those injured, and their commentary so that the story appears as much as a settled matter outwardly, publicly with no recourse to re-filing of the case in the future, with mention of other actionable litigation..
However, the hoops to jump through probably have more to do with the TIME THAT WE WAIT for these news updates, documentation, i.e., PERCEPTION of this story to fully bloom rather than to do with the Legal recipients themselves. The percentage of those legal shareholders who follow the INTERNET movements of this saga must be minuscule compared to the actual numbers set to be compensated across the globe. Therefore, they must first be notified by certified mail. Then it is possible for them to be directed towards a bank, or web site to further document their interests, and or proprietorship.
AIMVHO- waiting of notification for almost 4+? years now.
PS; I would rather be wrong at this point- in order to be made right$.
Oil
By: tuscan9
27 Sep 2009, 04:12 PM EDT
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oil... Spooks thoughts were right but
that time we have spent.. (8 years and climbing here)
has been spent doing what we needed to KNOW before we
receive such a amount!
At this point, even those not on boards will NOW understand
what must be done......and NEVER done...
Bad Boyz held out too long for the Market to end up receiving
any of the loot.
old 'Toll' Booth won't get much of this, imo....
Too Bad.. Too Sad... we are ALL smarter now!
Hard Assets
Gold
Other monetary
MINING companies
CASH for living for a year...?
What do you think is the thing to do with moolah?
By: oil.ipo
28 Sep 2009, 07:14 AM EDT
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"oil... Spooks thoughts were right but "
Respectfully-
These very good people like Spook (GRHS) whom I respected and loved as a friend were handed information, which he generously shared. What I quoted was one example of what possibly could be a message that was shared with him, and he might have repeated. Not sure. Like other messengers they really never knew the truth from the "fanciful" information nor the context that it was shared in. That was the worst part of the information/disinformation that was integrated into the shareholders lives. Yes, there are good parts and I credit you, and Spook for that much.
Fact;
These messengers were used. The message needed to be delivered continuously. No one will know what parts of the information were real until that day. The purposes are not clear.
I spent countless hours denouncing while documenting what I felt was very damaging. How much will the shareholders be compensated?? I would say that damages go well beyond what they/SH'S felt that many of them came to this investment for. Many suffered far greater. Apparently the Legal Shareholders served a greater purpose.
I documented that daily.
AIMHO
Oil