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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 21, 2009 14:00:32 GMT -5
and we will await Jarta's answer??Posted by: jimmym4 Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:14:15 AM In reply to: None Post # of 284187 Jarta whats this mean TIA SEC vs CMKM Diamonds(Urban Casavant terminated) :08-cv-00437-LRH-RJJ Securities and Exchange Commission v. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. et al Larry R. Hicks, presiding Robert J. Johnston, referral Date filed: 04/07/2008 Date of last filing: 11/19/2009 the entire post bb.us.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=43811135ty bikinipro By: notagolfer0 21 Nov 2009, 12:17 PM EST Rating: post rating 0 Msg. 886488 of 886503 (Reply to 886486 by leowanta) Jump to msg. #LEO, the way it's being explained to me by other shareholders (in their opinion), is that Urban defaulted which leaves a judgement of guilty on him, which is why the case was terminated to go to trial. So if he's guilty, will they now bring criminal charges against him? don't know. ty bikinipro.. By: leowanta 21 Nov 2009, 12:21 PM EST Rating: post rating 0 Msg. 886490 of 886502 (Reply to 886488 by notagolfer0) Jump to msg. #no, Urban has been dropped from the lawsuit....as of 9/3/2009 they have no legal charges against him....so they dropped him from the suit.... the DOJ still has him listed on their suit, but because the SEC terminated him, it's very clear the DOJ will do the same, since there are no charges against him by the SEC.... this is done people... and the UAJC trust injuction has been removed from the court docket.........i posted that information from the Clark County Court Records...recently,it's in my posting history... so we are good to move on people, i look for the initial payout very soon! Thank You Father leowanta truerword DIAMOND DIGGER Re: PJ's Post , UC Lawsuits Terminated , CMKX rela « Reply #20 Today at 12:51pm » Yes, TERMINATED .. The trial is over and judgement decreed. Doesnt mean thrown out. They will now turn it over to the dept that seeks disgorgement. Dvorak and Bagley were going to fight the sec charges, however the DOJ has now indicted them, that is why they dont show as Terminated. This is not new news, this is just a status round up.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 21, 2009 16:07:03 GMT -5
and we will await Jarta's answer??Posted by: jimmym4 Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:14:15 AM In reply to: None Post # of 284187 Jarta whats this mean TIA SEC vs CMKM Diamonds(Urban Casavant terminated) :08-cv-00437-LRH-RJJ Securities and Exchange Commission v. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. et al Larry R. Hicks, presiding Robert J. Johnston, referral Date filed: 04/07/2008 Date of last filing: 11/19/2009 the entire post bb.us.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=43811135ty bikinipro By: notagolfer0 21 Nov 2009, 12:17 PM EST Rating: post rating 0 Msg. 886488 of 886503 (Reply to 886486 by leowanta) Jump to msg. #LEO, the way it's being explained to me by other shareholders (in their opinion), is that Urban defaulted which leaves a judgement of guilty on him, which is why the case was terminated to go to trial. So if he's guilty, will they now bring criminal charges against him? don't know. ty bikinipro.. By: leowanta 21 Nov 2009, 12:21 PM EST Rating: post rating 0 Msg. 886490 of 886502 (Reply to 886488 by notagolfer0) Jump to msg. #no, Urban has been dropped from the lawsuit....as of 9/3/2009 they have no legal charges against him....so they dropped him from the suit.... the DOJ still has him listed on their suit, but because the SEC terminated him, it's very clear the DOJ will do the same, since there are no charges against him by the SEC.... this is done people... and the UAJC trust injuction has been removed from the court docket.........i posted that information from the Clark County Court Records...recently,it's in my posting history... so we are good to move on people, i look for the initial payout very soon! Thank You Father leowanta dyemenz DIAMOND DIGGER Re: PJ's Post , UC Lawsuits Terminated , CMKX rela « Reply #22 Today at 2:11pm » The SEC has stated that their case and the DOJ indictments leading to trial in 2011, involve the same defendants , both seek either disgorgement or restitution and both contain similar charges. Bagley, Dvorak, Kinney & Gutierrez had requested a trial regarding SEC Enforcement case. Urban and Edwards did not request a trial and why their names were not on the SEC Continuance Motion. When Indictments were handed down, it changes Statutes to Criminal Federal Rules of Procedure. There was no reason for SEC to go to the cost of a duplicate trial, where there wasn't even a possiblility of criminal penalties such as prison or much chance of being able to disgorge any defendant. No one would strike a deal with the SEC over Enforcement only, they would wait for Indictments and Criminal trial, where it could mean a lighter sentence for some type of cooperation. This is strictly procedural and cost saving. The SEC trial would have been a waste of money as any disgorgement collected by SEC, according to Debra Waite, would be deducted from DOJ restitution, as shareholders cannot collect twice. Defendants need to be found guilty or plead guilty, before any resitutution can be ordered in DOJ case. Funds the SEC could have collected or found, would be turned over to the DOJ anyway. According to the DOJ, Edwards and Casavant are still going to trial. Their names are still included on the DOJ Questionaire also.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 21, 2009 16:12:34 GMT -5
and Uncle Melvie rises from the ashes??By: halfstep3 21 Nov 2009, 11:56 AM EST Rating: Msg. 886480 of 886568 Jump to msg. # lawsuit dropped? I don't think so. lol By: paltalk-updater_ 21 Nov 2009, 04:04 PM EST Rating: Msg. 886563 of 886579 Jump to msg. # Melvie said the reason was - DOJ didnt have enough man power
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Post by varnson on Nov 21, 2009 17:37:41 GMT -5
Yea like Mel would know LOL LOL LOL But I still think UC will be tried but maybe in a separate trial on new charges "He was the CEO at least in title" Never underestimate the DOJ and yes folks they have the man power this is not Canada for God's sake.
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falcman1
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SOON!
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Post by falcman1 on Nov 21, 2009 19:34:32 GMT -5
please refrain from saying bad things about my country.
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Post by varnson on Nov 21, 2009 21:00:21 GMT -5
You are right I am sorry I like Canada a lot you are good neighbors and I have fished there and the beauty is magnificent. I am very excited about the Olympics, no disrespect intended Falcman1.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 23, 2009 7:57:21 GMT -5
By: l_broke_o 22 Nov 2009, 11:46 PM EST Rating: Msg. 886778 of 886785
Jump to msg. # I haven't been keeping up, last post I read was #885580 so if something big or bad happened since, forgive me.
Here is the least I'm hopping for with gus and his group and attorney hodge and his group. I'm hopping at least we find out if there EVER was a trust with our money in it. If there is, I'll stick around and read these posts on a semi daily basis.
If the trust theory was all a lie, and I believe it is, I'll probably come back here once a month or so because if no trust, then I believe it all was a lie, conglomerate a lie etc. If we trade again, and I doubt it as cmkx, we'll either see nothing but .00001 or more if there is a huge reverse split.
If there is no trust with our payment in it or if we never see it I believe we have lost!
I do agree with planter though, that those that are powerful enough to hold this payment back are probalby doing it to steal the interest. I think it was planter that said something like that.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 23, 2009 20:31:20 GMT -5
thanks bikinipro... ShowMeTheMoney Mod Squad Re: IMO, it's all about the Borkers « Reply #36 Yesterday at 11:07pm »
FYI, the SEC has applied a filter on all emails sent to them that reference CMKM Diamonds (CMKX). I found this out when my email to the SEC, copied above, was bounced back.
I called the SEC's Help Desk, and asked that they clear my email for distribution. To make a long story short, after researching my email, and existing case file, they went ahead and forwarded on my email to all the SEC staff listed. I'm guessing they had to get permission too. Those guys are Awesome! I really mean that, as they went well out of there way to help me... and were very cordial, understanding and helpful.
When I got a reply back, stating that my email had been cleared and forwarded, I also saw the reason the email was caught by the SEC's Filter is because CMKX is now considered a "high profile case".
Interesting... but, my guess is that we were overwhelming them with emails.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 23, 2009 20:51:49 GMT -5
Posted by: mathias1 Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:45:14 AM In reply to: A deleted message Post # of 284342 That's a pretty serious accusation there. Especially since CMKX was not naked shorted, but proven to be the biggest Pinksheet scam in history. Posted by: IQ1 Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:33:58 PM In reply to: mathias1 who wrote msg# 284300 Post # of 284342 Its not all black and white. If you think there was no NSS think again! We have enough proof to present reasonable doubt that a formal investigation is conducted. If there was no thing to hide why introduce the grandfather clause, why make it impossible to request certs, why tell shareholders lets just delete your shares they're no good because we want to help you, why go through all this trouble ? Wait and C!!!!!!! Who ever did this will pay!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 23, 2009 20:55:50 GMT -5
Posted by: nufced Date: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57:13 PM In reply to: None Post # of 284342
Hi all..just a minute to post. Seems theres some juggling going on in the CMKM addition of does and roes Glenn and EA
10/23/2009 Motion to Dismiss Donald Roger Glenn's and Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge's Partial Motion to Dismiss
11/16/2009 Motion to Associate Counsel Emergency Motion to Associate Counsel on an ORder Shortening Time
11/17/2009 Opposition to Motion to Dismiss Plaintiff's Opposition to Defendant Donald Roger Glenn and Edwards Angel Palmer & Dodge's Partial Motion to Dismiss
11/20/2009 Peremptory Challenge Peremptory Challenge of Judge
12/10/2009 Motion to Dismiss (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Gonzalez, Elizabeth)
Donald Roger Glenn's and Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge's Partial Motion to Dismiss 11/30/2009 Reset by Court to 12/10/2009
12/11/2009 Motion to Associate Counsel (3:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Gonzalez, Elizabeth) DEFTS GLENN AND EDWARD ANGELL PALMER AND DODGE LLP'S EMERGENCY MOTION TO ASSOCIATE COUNSEL (CONDO AND REFO)
11/25/2009 Reset by Court to 12/11/2009
12/21/2009 Reset by Court to 11/25/2009
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 23, 2009 21:05:23 GMT -5
By: jboydwv 23 Nov 2009, 08:43 AM EST Rating: Msg. 886788 of 886889
Jump to msg. # MQ3 only has .... one more month to be right...time gets em all!
MQ... for the past couple of years has said... nothing til 2010 By: paltalk-updater_ 23 Nov 2009, 09:04 AM EST Rating: Msg. 886791 of 886889 (Reply to 886788 by jboydwv)
Jump to msg. # jboy - yes -i had a very good long conversation w/ him less then 2 months ago - he said some things hes never said before - guy knows what hes talking about - but dont rule out 2009 :-)))
- - - - - carrot... being dangled as per the usual?? By: rosencrantz2010 23 Nov 2009, 10:00 AM EST Rating: Msg. 886801 of 886889 (Reply to 886791 by paltalk-updater_) updater, okay, what did he say that you found particularly interesting or worthwhile? and any idea why he would know?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 23, 2009 21:14:12 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 23 Nov 2009, 07:38 PM EST Rating: Msg. 886869 of 886889
Jump to msg. # the story will be told by the end of the year. we will learn what is going to happen before 2010. we won't learn everything by then but we will learn the true direction.
the final story won't be written until early 2010. but we should hear about where we are headed in some fashion before the end of the year.
if we aren't given an indication then there really will be problems. what exactly those problems might be who knows.
aladin, you know what i'm talking about, and it's not just you. you've got to walk the walk at some point in the game.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 23, 2009 21:15:46 GMT -5
By: paltalk-updater_ 23 Nov 2009, 07:30 PM EST Rating: Msg. 886868 of 886889
Jump to msg. # Just waiting on my buyout offer
By: rosencrantz2010 23 Nov 2009, 07:39 PM EST Rating: Msg. 886870 of 886889 (Reply to 886868 by paltalk-updater_)
Jump to msg. # updater, that is exactly right. i'm waiting on it too and it should be coming december or january.
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Post by snifferpup on Nov 23, 2009 21:19:52 GMT -5
.....................I don't have anymore clarification then this, but as I hear more, I'll post it~ UCROCKS: My friend Mark (dinar investor has no official INTEL) said he received a call the the 'girls' at FedEX or UPS that tens of thousands of packages were being delivered from the Altanta, GA area to financial institutions for a 3:00pm arrival for the East Coast, Midwest and other major regions.UCROCKS: He 'said' it was somewhere in the are of 40,000-50,000 packages and FedEX/UPS just needed to have enough employees to deliver them. Remember, I am just 'passing' along heresay.
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Post by squeezebox on Nov 23, 2009 22:50:28 GMT -5
.....................I don't have anymore clarification then this, but as I hear more, I'll post it~ UCROCKS: My friend Mark (dinar investor has no official INTEL) said he received a call the the 'girls' at FedEX or UPS that tens of thousands of packages were being delivered from the Altanta, GA area to financial institutions for a 3:00pm arrival for the East Coast, Midwest and other major regions.UCROCKS: He 'said' it was somewhere in the are of 40,000-50,000 packages and FedEX/UPS just needed to have enough employees to deliver them. Remember, I am just 'passing' along heresay. well I live in Atlanta very close to both UPS and Fedex distribution centers, it's way past 3pm and I ain't got thingy!
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