Post by soonerlew on May 10, 2007 9:03:00 GMT -5
Snoopstock5 reposted this..........Interesting or no??
I thought this old post was interesting. There is that word again.
What has concerned me about that is the fact that Urban has told numerous people at the races that CMKX would be a heritage stock. How can you have a heritage stock that merges into another entity and simply vanishes
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« Thread Started on Jun 29, 2005, 7:45pm »
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During this past year numerous posters have speculated
to the possibility that CMKX would merge into CIM and lose its own identity....
What has concerned me about that is the fact that Urban has told numerous people at the races that CMKX would be a heritage stock. How can you have a heritage stock that merges into another entity and simply vanishes???
Also, if CMKX were to merge into CIM then how do you take possibly 2-3 trillion shares with you into another clean entity (No NSS) and why in the world would you want to do that....
Some may say that the answer to that would be a Reverse Split but Urban has repeatedly stated over and over again "NO Reverse Split."
If Urban only took cert holders with him then can you imagine the mess of a situation that he may face with furious shareholders who feel lost in the shuffle....!!!
How do you solve this so that everybody is happy...
How about the people who may have ordered their certs at the last minute and whose orders simply did not get filled in time before the transfer agent says "NO MORE CERTS"....
If CMKX were to merge into another entity then how would you explain the mega bucks that have been spent on promting the CMKX name.... That would all be a waste!!!
This has had me very puzzled up until now....Perhaps Urban's plan all along was to create multiple streams of income....!!!
Just this past week the poster, hermannmaier, provided a link at my request to a PR that was released July 19, 2004. I had read it as I had read all of the PRs and did not give it much thought at the time. The PR I am referring to says CMKM Diamonds, Inc. has agreed to invest US$1,000,000 in Casavant International Mining rreferred to as (CIM). CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will receive in return a 10% lifetime royalty on all mineral claims of CIM. Wow!! How in the world did I not take notice to that one last year......
Then along comes Vindication LLC, a new Las Vegas corporation that has UC and Maheu's stamp all over it!! And get this- they will be releasing their officers on 6/30 at 12:01 am- just one day before our beloved Judge Murray can rule on our administrative hearing!!! You may ask what does that have to do with anything....
I have always thought that CMKX would not passively wait until the Judge rules on our case. That is just not the style of UC and Maheu. They are the types to take matters into their own hands and throw them a curve ball. IMO I believe that CMKX will halt the trading of thier own stock then transfer the remainder of their assets into CIM. Vindication LLC (which would function as a holding company) would hold all of CMKX's shares.... the NSS and those who hold certs. Keep in mind that most of the assets have already been transferred out of CMKX into other entities or J/Vs.
In this scenario Vindication LLC would hold all shares (both NSS and certs) and would trap shorty into paying on these shares for many years to come with yearly dividends. The beauty of this is that since shorty cannot sell the stock then he cannot make the money on the spread difference nor can he cover quickly while shareholders are rushing to sell quickly at the slightest spike in the pps. Perhaps Urban's plan is to take CMKX private and use it for the retail end of the business but shorty would still be locked in forever!!!
If CMKX were to let their stock continue to trade on the open market then shorty could simply choose to not make a market for our stock at all if they saw a really big squeeze coming. Or the brokerage houses could collectively decide to not make a market for our stock anymore if they have gotten in too deep. Or the MMs could simply file bankrupty. This way they would be allowed to stay in business but would pay dearly each year for years to come!!! Extended pain that they would not forget!!!
Now Back to the Multiple Streams of Income.....
In my earlier thread, Starlight's Theory, I speculated that if CMKX had agreed to be a guinea pig in a sting operation for the SEC and the SEC agreed to reward them with the lion's share of the DTC's insurance policy in their efforts to folow the money trail of funds that could be seeping out of our country to fund offshore terrorits activities. This would explain why CMKX chose to go from reporting to non-reporting status and why the Regulations SHO has a Grandfather Clause to protect the governemnt from being liable for any and all NSS that existed prior to Jan. 2005 (that has not been proven- We have according to the OG group and already had a plan in place.
In this scenario we would get the lion's share of the DTC's insurance policy- but how would the MMs pay...
Now with the Vindication LLC in place this is just too perfect for words!!! So in this situation CMKX would remain a separate entity under Vindication LLC (probably private) and CIM would IPO and all those who already have shares would also benefit from any sale of their stock when the restrictions are lifted in a few months.
Then our valuation would finally be released under CIM. All claims that belonged to CMKX that had been dispersed into other entities would then merge back into CIM, all our JV's would do their own IPOs and
then all merge together down the road while CMKX (which would be private) would handle all of the retail part of the business. Those who did not get the early CIM dividends would be allowed to buy into CIM at pre-IPO prices. And we would all get yearly dividends (royalties) from our CMKX stock from shorty under Vindication LLC!!!
Please keep in mind that the above scenario is just my opinion so please treat it as such.....!!!
Still Keeping the Faith....!!!
Starlight
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I thought this old post was interesting. There is that word again.
What has concerned me about that is the fact that Urban has told numerous people at the races that CMKX would be a heritage stock. How can you have a heritage stock that merges into another entity and simply vanishes
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« Thread Started on Jun 29, 2005, 7:45pm »
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During this past year numerous posters have speculated
to the possibility that CMKX would merge into CIM and lose its own identity....
What has concerned me about that is the fact that Urban has told numerous people at the races that CMKX would be a heritage stock. How can you have a heritage stock that merges into another entity and simply vanishes???
Also, if CMKX were to merge into CIM then how do you take possibly 2-3 trillion shares with you into another clean entity (No NSS) and why in the world would you want to do that....
Some may say that the answer to that would be a Reverse Split but Urban has repeatedly stated over and over again "NO Reverse Split."
If Urban only took cert holders with him then can you imagine the mess of a situation that he may face with furious shareholders who feel lost in the shuffle....!!!
How do you solve this so that everybody is happy...
How about the people who may have ordered their certs at the last minute and whose orders simply did not get filled in time before the transfer agent says "NO MORE CERTS"....
If CMKX were to merge into another entity then how would you explain the mega bucks that have been spent on promting the CMKX name.... That would all be a waste!!!
This has had me very puzzled up until now....Perhaps Urban's plan all along was to create multiple streams of income....!!!
Just this past week the poster, hermannmaier, provided a link at my request to a PR that was released July 19, 2004. I had read it as I had read all of the PRs and did not give it much thought at the time. The PR I am referring to says CMKM Diamonds, Inc. has agreed to invest US$1,000,000 in Casavant International Mining rreferred to as (CIM). CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will receive in return a 10% lifetime royalty on all mineral claims of CIM. Wow!! How in the world did I not take notice to that one last year......
Then along comes Vindication LLC, a new Las Vegas corporation that has UC and Maheu's stamp all over it!! And get this- they will be releasing their officers on 6/30 at 12:01 am- just one day before our beloved Judge Murray can rule on our administrative hearing!!! You may ask what does that have to do with anything....
I have always thought that CMKX would not passively wait until the Judge rules on our case. That is just not the style of UC and Maheu. They are the types to take matters into their own hands and throw them a curve ball. IMO I believe that CMKX will halt the trading of thier own stock then transfer the remainder of their assets into CIM. Vindication LLC (which would function as a holding company) would hold all of CMKX's shares.... the NSS and those who hold certs. Keep in mind that most of the assets have already been transferred out of CMKX into other entities or J/Vs.
In this scenario Vindication LLC would hold all shares (both NSS and certs) and would trap shorty into paying on these shares for many years to come with yearly dividends. The beauty of this is that since shorty cannot sell the stock then he cannot make the money on the spread difference nor can he cover quickly while shareholders are rushing to sell quickly at the slightest spike in the pps. Perhaps Urban's plan is to take CMKX private and use it for the retail end of the business but shorty would still be locked in forever!!!
If CMKX were to let their stock continue to trade on the open market then shorty could simply choose to not make a market for our stock at all if they saw a really big squeeze coming. Or the brokerage houses could collectively decide to not make a market for our stock anymore if they have gotten in too deep. Or the MMs could simply file bankrupty. This way they would be allowed to stay in business but would pay dearly each year for years to come!!! Extended pain that they would not forget!!!
Now Back to the Multiple Streams of Income.....
In my earlier thread, Starlight's Theory, I speculated that if CMKX had agreed to be a guinea pig in a sting operation for the SEC and the SEC agreed to reward them with the lion's share of the DTC's insurance policy in their efforts to folow the money trail of funds that could be seeping out of our country to fund offshore terrorits activities. This would explain why CMKX chose to go from reporting to non-reporting status and why the Regulations SHO has a Grandfather Clause to protect the governemnt from being liable for any and all NSS that existed prior to Jan. 2005 (that has not been proven- We have according to the OG group and already had a plan in place.
In this scenario we would get the lion's share of the DTC's insurance policy- but how would the MMs pay...
Now with the Vindication LLC in place this is just too perfect for words!!! So in this situation CMKX would remain a separate entity under Vindication LLC (probably private) and CIM would IPO and all those who already have shares would also benefit from any sale of their stock when the restrictions are lifted in a few months.
Then our valuation would finally be released under CIM. All claims that belonged to CMKX that had been dispersed into other entities would then merge back into CIM, all our JV's would do their own IPOs and
then all merge together down the road while CMKX (which would be private) would handle all of the retail part of the business. Those who did not get the early CIM dividends would be allowed to buy into CIM at pre-IPO prices. And we would all get yearly dividends (royalties) from our CMKX stock from shorty under Vindication LLC!!!
Please keep in mind that the above scenario is just my opinion so please treat it as such.....!!!
Still Keeping the Faith....!!!
Starlight
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