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Post by georgie18 on Dec 23, 2010 15:10:08 GMT -5
Somebody please wake me up..I must be dreaming..I have 10s of Millions of shares of a penny stock that has been delisted and thus rendered worthless and there is actually an attorney that will plead a case on my behalf without asking me for a retainer or any payment what so ever win or lose...
So let me play this in my mind...If I lose I am no worse of financially then I was before and if the Attorney wins I will collect a portion of the funds he recovers...
Well this would appear to be a no brainer to me...it seems like a win win situation to me...I cannot lose anything but stand to gain a profit by virtue of this attorney winning the case..I'm in ....
That's the scenario folks ...a year and 1/2 ago you had worthless shares and if it was not for Attorney Hodges graciously taking it upon himself to represent the shareholder base you would have no idea this trust even existed...it would have been swept away and you would have never had any idea of what was waiting for you..
Now that we have this tremendous amount thrown at us...everybody is focused on the prize and all you were asked to do is support the fight with your hearts..Attorney Hodges would do the rest..The recovery of a $3.87 Trillion Trust...with his time and his experience.
What has happened...people are demanding that Mr. Hodges should be more professional..people are demanding things should be done their way...people are demanding answers...people are slamming Mr. Hodges for the job he is doing....The same people that were sitting around with nothing 1 1/2 years ago...you put an opportunity of wealth in front of these people and now not only to they want to get paid now but want the proceedings approached to their liking.
This is a great undertaking ...dealing with bureaucracy ....dealing with politicians...dealing with huge amounts of money...and we get upset with Mr.Hodges because he cannot over come huge hurdles as fast as we would like..Yes Mr.Hodges made some promises he couldn't keep so what they were not intentional..it happens get over it. Do I want to get paid today..of course but I have no control over that...I also do not know the intimate details...details that Mr.Hodges has to deal with on a daily basis.
Problems arise in this just like problems arise in your personal lives..If I were Mr.Hodges I would get up and leave...hide all the information and tell every one have a nice day...see ya...and then where are you...are going to start the complete process all over again...do you think now that it is you ...they are just going to hand over $3.87 Trillion...
Let the man do his job with your support...if it were not for him there would be no chance to recoup these funds..and some want to hire attorneys to get to the bottom of what...
If Mr. Hodges is handling the case let him do so as he sees fit and realize what you stand to gain...one thing to remember he is also a shareholder and stands to gain as much as all of us when this is over....so to think that he does not want closure is foolish...and to think that he is any less exhausted than any of us is foolish...and to think he would chance his integrity and his pride in his craft is foolish...
We stand to gain enormous wealth at no monetary cost to us...
THANK YOU MR. HODGES FOR EXTENDING THIS COURTESY AND NEVER ASKING FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN....
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Post by elfieh on Dec 23, 2010 15:15:34 GMT -5
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Post by wolfbela on Dec 23, 2010 15:18:35 GMT -5
Georgie,
With all due respect, haven't we read this message about 6 times now.. The tenor of it...
I'm waiting for Peter xxxxdiamondxxx to come out of the woodwork. with the feel good stuff..
It is OK to admit to yourself, hey, maybe somebody isn't telling the truth.
Took me a while to get there, but I'm there..
BTW, from what I understand, Al stands to become an extremely wealthy man if any of this is true..so it serves to his self-interest as well.
Obviously, someone with an ounce of conscience should realize the responsibility of their statements, as thousands sit, listen and wait for answers.
J WB
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Post by gusjarvis on Dec 23, 2010 15:22:27 GMT -5
1. This is not about al hodges and he shouldn't even have to be doing this case if someone from our own company and anyone from the agencies who made these deals would have done their jobs. Al has the trust agreement which proves this is five years overdue, that means many didn't do their jobs including those that entered these agreements from the government and our company.
2. Nobody should be scared of the truth, and nobody in this operation have answered one question, not one, not one agency or our one of our own lawyers. Not in six years, and that is not right. We should have demanded answers years ago, this would be over.
3. Everyone has the right to feel the way they do now, that includes anyone who is choked with this ending, to anyone happy with it, to anyone who thinks they all lied to us.
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Post by jawz2010 on Dec 23, 2010 15:22:53 GMT -5
Georgie, With all due respect, haven't we read this message about 6 times now.. The tenor of it... I'm waiting for Peter xxxxdiamondxxx to come out of the woodwork. with the feel good stuff.. It is OK to admit to yourself, hey, maybe somebody isn't telling the truth. Took me a while to get there, but I'm there.. BTW, from what I understand, Al stands to become an extremely wealthy man if any of this is true..so it serves to his self-interest as well. Obviously, someone with an ounce of conscience should realize the responsibility of their statements, as thousands sit, listen and wait for answers. J WB Amen to that Jerry.
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Post by crackerjack on Dec 23, 2010 15:25:00 GMT -5
Jerry ,
you hit a grand slam with your posts today.
Glta as always
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Post by diamondogg11 on Dec 23, 2010 15:30:03 GMT -5
georgie
That is one way to look at it.
And despite my "plea" for Hodges to give the shareholders some transparency and clarity..
believe it or not I am very grateful for his efforts.
I still believe Hodges' needs to understand the weight of his words.. and if there is any way possible to end the cycle of failed dates and escalating expectations and unending void of unreliable communication (which is then taken advantage by those who fill the void with more confusion)..
I am pleading for Hodges' to understand the situation shareholders are in.
It is true that some people felt we had little hope a couple years ago (and I include myself in that camp).. but we are now in a "different reality" one where we have been hooked in again and promises have been made by people in "positions of power".. we all need to take responsibility to "take care of ourselves".. but the responsibility does not end there..
we need to take care of each other as well and take responsibility for our actions and how it effects others..
I think it is unwise to split the shareholders into "grateful" and "ungrateful shareholders" groups.
We are all in the same boat.
dd
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Post by pootsa on Dec 23, 2010 15:31:50 GMT -5
Georgie, very well stated.
The issues surrounding many shareholders are internal. Read the boards,and you will see threads of those who have dreamed quite largely,spending their if come on fast cars, homes and other various self gratifying gifts. We know the money is not in our hands, yet we dream. Those dreams start to take a life of their own,and become real to the person who has thought so much, put much time and effort into this, it IS reality.
When an event does not unfold as told,we become upset that our perceived reality just might not be what we think. Some lash out, threaten and stomp their feet, as we now feel a lie has been born that will crush our world,even though it is not a reality. The truth will prevail. Sit back and brush aside those dreams for now, until they do become reality. If by some chance, this does not happen, you can not blame the guy who is trying to help us out. It does not make any sense to me. Just the way I feel.
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Post by cmkxerlong on Dec 23, 2010 15:31:55 GMT -5
Jerry would you prefer that Hodges be silent? Come on man.
You would be in the dark too and probably used your certificate as toilet paper already if it wasn't for Al Hodges bringing this to light.
I'm of the opinion that Al is being truthful and sincere. He is most likely giving us the correct information, but if you are dealing with organized crime like what Patrick Byrne has uncovered! these people are very powerful people and will do anything including "lie" and "cheat"! Come on you should know that too.
So, please give Al the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by marbearcat on Dec 23, 2010 15:32:40 GMT -5
Great comments Gus & Wolf!
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Post by georgie18 on Dec 23, 2010 15:36:55 GMT -5
Georgie, With all due respect, haven't we read this message about 6 times now.. The tenor of it... I'm waiting for Peter xxxxdiamondxxx to come out of the woodwork. with the feel good stuff.. It is OK to admit to yourself, hey, maybe somebody isn't telling the truth. Took me a while to get there, but I'm there.. BTW, from what I understand, Al stands to become an extremely wealthy man if any of this is true..so it serves to his self-interest as well. Obviously, someone with an ounce of conscience should realize the responsibility of their statements, as thousands sit, listen and wait for answers. J WB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess you are the know it all Jerry...well tell me one thing...where were you in September 2009...what were you doing to get paid..did you even know that a $3.87 Trillion trust existed...did you hire an attorney to find out....WHAT EXACTLY WERE YOU DOING....and since when did you write the book on professionalism...according to who...to you.... I got a NEWS FLASH for you...Mr.Hodges did all the leg work ....NOT YOU...and now that he has done that... you want to pass judgment as to how he should conduct himself...Well if you are so critical of his work why didn't you find out about this in September 2009 and do something... It is easy to criticize some one after the fact...until you try and do the same job...and when you learn how hard it really is...well...you say this is not as easy as it looks...You complain when he makes statements that do not happen and you complain when he is quiet...in other words you complain about everything.. "The rest can hang with Seeking in the hot tub..and get wrinkled..no money, but great fun..." This exemplifies your character...if your not with Jerry you lose...nice job Jerry...you have a great day..I am on my way to the hot tub..
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Post by georgie18 on Dec 23, 2010 15:41:15 GMT -5
1. This is not about al hodges and he shouldn't even have to be doing this case if someone from our own company and anyone from the agencies who made these deals would have done their jobs. Al has the trust agreement which proves this is five years overdue, that means many didn't do their jobs including those that entered these agreements from the government and our company. 2. Nobody should be scared of the truth, and nobody in this operation have answered one question, not one, not one agency or our one of our own lawyers. Not in six years, and that is not right. We should have demanded answers years ago, this would be over. 3. Everyone has the right to feel the way they do now, that includes anyone who is choked with this ending, to anyone happy with it, to anyone who thinks they all lied to us. You are right Gus and that is not the point....the point is Al Hodges is the only one that had the balls to take this on and does not deserve to be slammed because people do not like the way he is handling it...that is the only point....1 1/2 years ago there was no case..now at least there is some hope and for all you..me or anybody else knows we can have funds in our hands that we never knew about until Al...that is the point...
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Post by bjohns100 on Dec 23, 2010 15:45:45 GMT -5
Georgie,? Where's my check, Baby?
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Post by wolfbela on Dec 23, 2010 15:47:14 GMT -5
Georgie,
You are misinformed.. Gus and Bob H did 99% of the initial work. I have been on this from the beginning, just in the background. Hodges ran with their info...
If Hodges was tight with Maheu, he should have had knowledge of this years ago..
I just can't being lied to day in and day out..
That simple...
Georgie, remember I filed a court action also.. I will gladly send you a copy to read, if you don't remember I did as well as Al..I could have gone on, but there is a better way.. Show us the (money) trust agreement.. take it to court.. get the money released.. Never saw the trust agreement in court, though, did we? WHY??
J WB
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Dec 23, 2010 15:49:56 GMT -5
1. This is not about al hodges and he shouldn't even have to be doing this case if someone from our own company and anyone from the agencies who made these deals would have done their jobs. Al has the trust agreement which proves this is five years overdue, that means many didn't do their jobs including those that entered these agreements from the government and our company. 2. Nobody should be scared of the truth, and nobody in this operation have answered one question, not one, not one agency or our one of our own lawyers. Not in six years, and that is not right. We should have demanded answers years ago, this would be over. 3. Everyone has the right to feel the way they do now, that includes anyone who is choked with this ending, to anyone happy with it, to anyone who thinks they all lied to us. You are right Gus and that is not the point....the point is Al Hodges is the only one that had the balls to take this on and does not deserve to be slammed because people do not like the way he is handling it...that is the only point....1 1/2 years ago there was no case..now at least there is some hope and for all you..me or anybody else knows we can have funds in our hands that we never knew about until Al...that is the point... George: You are 100% right... If I were Al, I would most DEFINITELY ignore emails and phone calls from non-clients that demand answers from me. ...and yes, Wolf is correct that Al stands to benefit greatly, since I've heard (fwiw) that he owns quite a bit of stock as well. But I fail to understand how that should make his efforts, that stand to benefit me, any less appreciated by me. Ed
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