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Post by georgie18 on Dec 23, 2010 15:53:05 GMT -5
georgie That is one way to look at it. And despite my "plea" for Hodges to give the shareholders some transparency and clarity.. believe it or not I am very grateful for his efforts. I still believe Hodges' needs to understand the weight of his words.. and if there is any way possible to end the cycle of failed dates and escalating expectations and unending void of unreliable communication (which is then taken advantage by those who fill the void with more confusion).. I am pleading for Hodges' to understand the situation shareholders are in. It is true that some people felt we had little hope a couple years ago (and I include myself in that camp).. but we are now in a "different reality" one where we have been hooked in again and promises have been made by people in "positions of power".. we all need to take responsibility to "take care of ourselves".. but the responsibility does not end there.. we need to take care of each other as well and take responsibility for our actions and how it effects others.. I think it is unwise to split the shareholders into "grateful" and "ungrateful shareholders" groups. We are all in the same boat. dd I am not in the Al Hodges camp or any persons camp...I am in one camp and that is my camp...and that camp is called CAMP PRACTICAL....That camp says an attorney is trying to secure funds for me and not asking me for anything in return....it's that simple...I am not going to tell him how to do his job...he is far better at it than I could ever hope to be...he has far better connections than I will ever have and I will be d*mned if I will ever question how he does his job when the reality is that I would have never ever known this trust existed if it were not for him....When he is ready to say something he will speak..if he wants to tell me some white lies to keep me settled so be it...I trust what he is doing and if it turns out there is nothing it has cost me exactly that.... YES WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT AND THAT BOAT WILL SNAP AS IT IS HEADED IN SEPARATE DIRECTIONS ..............................
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Post by georgie18 on Dec 23, 2010 15:55:35 GMT -5
Georgie, very well stated. The issues surrounding many shareholders are internal. Read the boards,and you will see threads of those who have dreamed quite largely,spending their if come on fast cars, homes and other various self gratifying gifts. We know the money is not in our hands, yet we dream. Those dreams start to take a life of their own,and become real to the person who has thought so much, put much time and effort into this, it IS reality. When an event does not unfold as told,we become upset that our perceived reality just might not be what we think. Some lash out, threaten and stomp their feet, as we now feel a lie has been born that will crush our world,even though it is not a reality. The truth will prevail. Sit back and brush aside those dreams for now, until they do become reality. If by some chance, this does not happen, you can not blame the guy who is trying to help us out. It does not make any sense to me. Just the way I feel. Thank you for your thoughts.....
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Post by squeezebox on Dec 23, 2010 16:02:40 GMT -5
I think the issue is the way that Al goes about keeping us informed. All we are asking for is the truth, which we have NOT gotten from him. what we have gotten are his plaintiff's spreading lies to us and they can't even get their stories straight. After all isn't that what the courts are supposed to be about, the truth? At this point we have been lied to by our gov, the plaintiff's (most likely unknowingly), our company and Al. If Al wants to save any credibility with me (not that he cares) he needs to stop making childish statements like being a betting man and tell us the truth. He needs to stop believing the lies put to him and put out the evidence that he says he has. Evidence in the public's (shareholders) hands is what gets this done. Put up or shut up Al! Give us the evidence and get out of our way!
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Post by diamondogg11 on Dec 23, 2010 16:07:46 GMT -5
georgie That is one way to look at it. And despite my "plea" for Hodges to give the shareholders some transparency and clarity.. believe it or not I am very grateful for his efforts. I still believe Hodges' needs to understand the weight of his words.. and if there is any way possible to end the cycle of failed dates and escalating expectations and unending void of unreliable communication (which is then taken advantage by those who fill the void with more confusion).. I am pleading for Hodges' to understand the situation shareholders are in. It is true that some people felt we had little hope a couple years ago (and I include myself in that camp).. but we are now in a "different reality" one where we have been hooked in again and promises have been made by people in "positions of power".. we all need to take responsibility to "take care of ourselves".. but the responsibility does not end there.. we need to take care of each other as well and take responsibility for our actions and how it effects others.. I think it is unwise to split the shareholders into "grateful" and "ungrateful shareholders" groups. We are all in the same boat. dd I am not in the Al Hodges camp or any persons camp...I am in one camp and that is my camp...and that camp is called CAMP PRACTICAL....That camp says an attorney is trying to secure funds for me and not asking me for anything in return....it's that simple...I am not going to tell him how to do his job...he is far better at it than I could ever hope to be...he has far better connections than I will ever have and I will be d*mned if I will ever question how he does his job when the reality is that would have never ever known this trust existed if it were not for him....When he is ready to say something he will speak..if he wants to tell me some white lies to keep me settled so be it...I trust what he is doing and if it turns out there is nothing it has cost me exactly that.... YES WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT AND THAT BOAT WILL SNAP AS IT IS HEADED IN SEPARATE DIRECTIONS .............................. Well georgie your point is a valid one.. but it is only one valid point.. "if he wants to tell me white lies to keep me settled".. I respect your willingness to keep it "simple" even if keeping it simple means being "handled" with "white lies" but not everyone is going to see things the same way.. if I take your argument to its extreme.. then NO MATTER what is said and done does not matter.. because in the END we didn't have anything anyways.. and if we end up with nothing then oh well.. I disagree with this thinking.. Again, I respect Al Hodges and I appreciate his efforts.. Doesn't mean that I can't express a need for clarity at a time when shareholders are going through a tremendous amount of stress.. dd (grateful shareholder #35785)
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Post by georgie18 on Dec 23, 2010 16:08:13 GMT -5
Georgie, You are misinformed.. Gus and Bob H did 99% of the initial work. I have been on this from the beginning, just in the background. Hodges ran with their info... If Hodges was tight with Maheu, he should have had knowledge of this years ago.. I just can't being lied to day in and day out.. That simple... Georgie, remember I filed a court action also.. I will gladly send you a copy to read, if you don't remember I did as well as Al..I could have gone on, but there is a better way.. Show us the (money) trust agreement.. take it to court.. get the money released.. Never saw the trust agreement in court, though, did we? WHY?? J WB Jerry I do not need a copy of anything and I understand your frustration...I would have loved to have the funds in my hands 10 months ago...that is not my point..... My point is let the man do his job...and appreciate what he is doing...he will never make all us happy...I am not in this for happy or to look at papers...I am in it for the funds and correct me if I am wrong ....so are most people....nobody else that I am aware of has afforded us that opportunity...He has....
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Post by agfadoc on Dec 23, 2010 16:08:48 GMT -5
AL knows whatever he says it will get turned and churned, why bother when there will always be those who it is never enough...no matter what he says. If he can't get the money in your hands, he isn't going to say anything and that too isn't good enough for some.
Either way people will complain while he continues to try and get the money...communicating or not.
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Post by marbearcat on Dec 23, 2010 16:17:06 GMT -5
AL knows whatever he says it will get turned and churned, why bother when there will always be those who it is never enough...no matter what he says. If he can't get the money in your hands, he isn't going to say anything and that too isn't good enough for some. Either way people will complain while he continues to try and get the money...communicating or not. Cool \\\DROID!/// pic.
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Post by georgie18 on Dec 23, 2010 16:17:55 GMT -5
Thank you for your thoughts..... And thank you for yours, Georgie.... Thank you chuckwheat.....ENJOY...
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Dec 23, 2010 16:20:48 GMT -5
He needs to apologize for the "If I were a betting man.." comment. That was irrespons ble and a decent Attorney would have never let out a comment like that. Especially when he knows how many crazy CMKX Shareholders hang on his every word. WOW.. Did we forget to have a cup-cake today... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by iboughtit2 on Dec 23, 2010 17:51:03 GMT -5
Please ---- Stop ROCKIN' My Boat ---- There are "SHARKS" in the water everywhere. Could YOU be one of them? Merry Christmas All
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Post by z06mike on Dec 23, 2010 19:15:01 GMT -5
Georgie, With all due respect, haven't we read this message about 6 times now.. The tenor of it... I'm waiting for Peter xxxxdiamondxxx to come out of the woodwork. with the feel good stuff.. It is OK to admit to yourself, hey, maybe somebody isn't telling the truth. Took me a while to get there, but I'm there.. BTW, from what I understand, Al stands to become an extremely wealthy man if any of this is true..so it serves to his self-interest as well. Obviously, someone with an ounce of conscience should realize the responsibility of their statements, as thousands sit, listen and wait for answers. J WB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess you are the know it all Jerry...well tell me one thing...where were you in September 2009...what were you doing to get paid..did you even know that a $3.87 Trillion trust existed...did you hire an attorney to find out....WHAT EXACTLY WERE YOU DOING....and since when did you write the book on professionalism...according to who...to you.... I got a NEWS FLASH for you...Mr.Hodges did all the leg work ....NOT YOU...and now that he has done that... you want to pass judgment as to how he should conduct himself...Well if you are so critical of his work why didn't you find out about this in September 2009 and do something... It is easy to criticize some one after the fact...until you try and do the same job...and when you learn how hard it really is...well...you say this is not as easy as it looks...You complain when he makes statements that do not happen and you complain when he is quiet...in other words you complain about everything.. "The rest can hang with Seeking in the hot tub..and get wrinkled..no money, but great fun..." This exemplifies your character...if your not with Jerry you lose...nice job Jerry...you have a great day..I am on my way to the hot tub.. Georgie, Newsflash for you. Gudjarvis was doing legwork long before Al started this thing. Before you condemn someone, like Wolf, that has selflessly worked his a$$ off to get to the real truth, perhaps you, and the other genius' that decided they were much wiser and made their own unilateral decisions, can show some of your work? Mike
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Post by gusjarvis on Dec 23, 2010 19:22:05 GMT -5
mike also I filed before al, and if I had access to the classified information like al things would be different, and maybe I would be dead.
But this is a joke, one lawyer on earth allowed to have access to information nobody else is, so comparing him to anyone else, or bob saying nobody else stepped up and sued is wrong. Not only did I, but many others would have if granted the same access to sealed information as al was.
Most of the leg work was done by john martin, georgeburns, pedro, bill frizzell,noaltl, the super lawyers and bob maheu. Al is just playing out the string. Most of the info this was a sting is on the company website.
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Post by woutcome on Dec 23, 2010 20:39:57 GMT -5
Somebody please wake me up..I must be dreaming..I have 10s of Millions of shares of a penny stock that has been delisted THANK YOU MR. HODGES FOR EXTENDING THIS COURTESY AND NEVER ASKING FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN.... georgie18 Well said my friend, look at them just complaining. Just one question to all those who are complaining about not getting paid: What did you do in last 6 + years to recover your investment?
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Post by georgie18 on Dec 23, 2010 22:39:22 GMT -5
Georgie,
Newsflash for you. Gudjarvis was doing legwork long before Al started this thing. Before you condemn someone, like Wolf, that has selflessly worked his a$$ off to get to the real truth, perhaps you, and the other genius' that decided they were much wiser and made their own unilateral decisions, can show some of your work?
Mike
Mike...here is a news flash for you.......I have been in this for 9 years and have done extensive research...but unlike these other fine gentleman I have decided to keep everything I discovered for myself...I have what I need to know...I have no interest in knocking from door to door for somebody to hear my story..although myself as well as my friends that are involved in this are not QUITE THE GENIUSES ..NOR ARE WE AS WISE...as you Jerry and gus..we are still wise enough to know that you at this very moment are in the same position we are in as far as CMKX funds are concerned...ironic...so you guys can keep hootin and hollerin..and I will proceed to have faith in Al Hodges and respect the fact that he is the one chosen to bring this home....When I need my car repaired I go to a auto mechanic..when I need my dishwasher repaired I call a dishwasher repairman...when I have the possibility on collecting a part of a $3.87 Trillion suit I will stick to a professional that has been involved in the ins and outs of the court system and the way it functions for 40 years...and you can do it with yourself...Jerry..and Gus....bright..great guys..but my money is on the professional.....Mike you have a great evening....it was fun playing word games with you today....you're quite witty..
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Post by agfadoc on Dec 23, 2010 22:46:44 GMT -5
Bravo Georgie!
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