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Post by sweetsp7 on Dec 28, 2010 8:51:09 GMT -5
Re: IMO: When The Smoke Clears « Reply #30 Today at 5:43am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 5:41am, ssu wrote: Today at 5:38am, chucky wrote: "Hopefully" because until we get paid it's still 50/50. Either we do or we don't. I'm hoping the law of the land still has teeth. _________________________________________________________________________ oh now its 50/50 man _________________________________________________________________________ That's all it's ever been. Where have you been? Either we get paid or we don't. There is no in-between. CHucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=36178&page=2
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Post by sweetsp7 on Dec 28, 2010 8:52:02 GMT -5
Re: IMO: When The Smoke Clears « Reply #35 Today at 5:49am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 5:49am, atb wrote:Chucky, semantically, I have to disagree with you that if we are not paid by the end of the year that the laws do not exist. The laws exist, unfortunately it just shows that there are people above the law who can disregard the laws. And the people and institutions in place that are supposed to enforce the laws aren't doing their jobs. ________________________________________________________________________ Call it what you will, breaking the law at any level is breaking the law. Chucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=36178&page=2
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Post by ishmel on Dec 28, 2010 8:56:37 GMT -5
The Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation ("DTCC") and its affiliates related to the issue of Naked Short Selling.
There have been 14 cases filed against DTCC involving naked short selling. All 14 cases have been either dismissed by the courts involved or withdrawn by the plaintiffs. In one case, the court allowed legal sanctions against the plaintiff, which allowed DTCC to seek partial reimbursement of its legal costs.
Name of Case Filed Disposition
1.
Williamson v. Goldman, Sachs & Co., et al.
January 31, 2003
Dismissed by court, March 17, 2004 (as to moving defendants - DTCC Defendants never served).
2.
Nutek v. Ameritrade, Inc., et al.
March 21, 2003
Dismissed voluntarily by plaintiffs as against DTCC Director Defendants, with prejudice, May 18, 2004. Dismissed as against remaining DTCC Defendants, July 30, 2004.
3.
Genemax Corp. v. Knight Securities, LP, et al.
November 14, 2003
Dismissed by court, November 9, 2004 (DTCC Defendants not served).
4.
Capece v. Elgindy, et al.
April 28, 2004
Dismissed voluntarily by plaintiff as against DTCC Defendants, August 3, 2004.
5.
Nanopierce Technologies, Inc. (now known as Vyta Corp.) v. The Depository Trust Co., et al.
April 29, 2004
Dismissed by court on DTCC Defendants' motion to dismiss, April 28, 2005. Supreme Court of Nevada upheld dismissal, September 20, 2007. Certiorari denied by U.S. Supreme Court, May 12, 2008.
6.
Sporn v. Elgindy, et al.
August 30, 2004
Dismissed by court on DTCC Defendants' motion to dismiss, July 25, 2005. Sanctions awarded in favor of DTCC Defendants.
7.
Walters v. DTCC, et al.
August 30, 2004
Dismissed by court on DTCC Defendants' motion to dismiss (no opposition filed), December 7, 2004.
8.
Pet Quarters, Inc. v. The Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation, et al.
October 29, 2004
Dismissed with prejudice by court on DTCC Defendants' motion, February 25, 2008.
9.
Capece v. DTCC, et al.
April 29, 2005
Dismissed by court on DTCC Defendants' motion, October 11, 2005.
10.
Whistler Investments, Inc. v. DTCC, et al.
May 12, 2005
Dismissed by court on DTCC Defendants' motion, May 31, 2006. Dismissal upheld by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, August 22, 2008
11.
Miller, as Trustee v. Boston Partners Management LP, et al.
January, 2006
Filed, not served, and DTCC Defendants dropped from litigation.
Related Early Cases
1.
X-Clearing Corporation v. Depository Trust Corporation, et al. (Intergold, Inc. action)
February 18, 2003
Dismissed by court on DTCC Defendants' motion to dismiss, October 3, 2003.
2.
Intergold Corporation v. Depository Trust Corporation, et al.
March 10, 2003
Filed, never served.
3.
X-Clearing Corporation v.
Depository Trust Corporation, et al.
(Petrogen Corp. action)
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Post by sweetsp7 on Dec 28, 2010 9:06:00 GMT -5
Re: IMO: When The Smoke Clears « Reply #45 Today at 6:02am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 5:56am, bikinipro wrote:Chucky, but if we get screwed again....we're not just walking into the night, right? _________________________________________________________________________ Hard to say. The case being dismissed, a new case will have to ensue. Who will lead that charge? Will Attorney Hodges continue to fight for himself and for the shareholders? He has all the evidence still, I presume. Individual shareholders can only do so much. Chucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=36178&page=3#507807
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Post by chris on Dec 28, 2010 9:10:55 GMT -5
Is it just me or does Chucky sound very unsure this morning?
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Post by cheechman on Dec 28, 2010 9:13:15 GMT -5
Is it just me or does Chucky sound very unsure this morning? I have to AGREE.
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Post by sweetsp7 on Dec 28, 2010 9:18:48 GMT -5
Re: IMO: When The Smoke Clears « Reply #51 Today at 6:17am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 6:01am, mnwriter wrote:Chucky, Regarding the Supreme Court and CMKX... we have seen and heard it referred to as an "opinion," an "order" and a "directive." Can you clarify? And, perhaps opine about how much legal weight or sway each term carries? Or just the one that applies to us. Thank you _________________________________________________________________________ The Directive ordering the payment. As for the legal weight it carries - do you believe in the Constitution? CHucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=36178&page=3
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Post by sweetsp7 on Dec 28, 2010 9:23:14 GMT -5
Re: Other gossip,etc. Dec26--> « Reply #127 Today at 6:21am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 6:05am, mgpaul wrote: Today at 5:19am, chucky wrote: Doesn't matter what Al was promised in the past, this time it all falls on the SC order. Al tried to get us paid earlier than year's end, they screwed around with him imo. Now if they screw around they screw around with the SC. ________________________________________________________________________ Chucky Just who is the "they" in your statement, "Now if they screw around they screw around with the SC." Last thing I remember you telling us that control is with Peter Maheu and the team. So are they the "they" here or is the holdup back in the government's hands? Thanks ________________________________________________________________________ IMO it's a convenient situation for all parties involved. The JCS is holding Cottrell up, and our Trustee cannot release our funds until Cottrell is paid. Everyone is earning interest on the funds with each passing day. In the end, if we are paid in accordance to the SC directive, everybody wins. So we wait until the last possible minute for the moneys to be released - is anyone really going to be upset once they get their money in a few days? CHucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=36134&page=7#507822
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Post by ilovelucy on Dec 28, 2010 9:23:23 GMT -5
Is it just me or does Chucky sound very unsure this morning? I have to AGREE. Chucky unsure? No one is sure. No one has a check or a notification. How could ANYONE be sure? No one has been sure for years. How many years do you want to play this little game? This is it. This is the year it ends. Either the money comes thru, or shareholders need to get a grip. No one needs to bash anyone else for their method or style of discontent. Wolfbela is a little crusty , but a diamond in the rough for being willing to do SOMETHING AND HE HAS!! We are willing to wait, once again. But by golly, the year 2011 is right around the corner. Legal action may be necessary, who knows? But the key word here, is ACTION. Not sitting on your duff on this computer complaining, bashing, arguing, and being discontented and growing hostile. Get ready. Be ready.
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Post by ishmel on Dec 28, 2010 9:24:53 GMT -5
Re: The Weekly Buzz 12/27 « Reply #5 Today at 9:34am » seagull Administrator ***** Re: gossip 12/28/10 « Reply #9 Today at 9:14am » By: chuckyPayment by end of year. Nothing has changed. ----- Either way, after this week I'm done waiting. If we do not get paid this week, then obviously the laws of the land don't stand for anything anymore. This week has to be the week we receive our payment, not imo. slamdunkwealthChucky your post here actually bothers me a little. It appears that in fact you're not absolutely certain which you have, for the most part, led us to believe. chuckyThat is only human nature my friend. I have been here for the better part of 6 years waiting for payment after too many failed promises. Call it conditioned I guess. I stand in my position that this has to be the week. I WILL ONLY BE CERTAIN WHEN WE HAVE MONEY IN HAND. millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=36153
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Post by goldengriff on Dec 28, 2010 9:28:01 GMT -5
The Directive ordering the payment. As for the legal weight it carries - do you believe in the Constitution? CHucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ad=36178&page=3 THERE YOU GO, CHUCKY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD....THE CONSTITUTION, THE MAJOR COG THAT MAKES ALL THE WHEELS GO AROUND INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE "PAYOUT WHEEL"GOLDENGRIFF
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Post by sweetsp7 on Dec 28, 2010 9:28:47 GMT -5
Re: IMO: When The Smoke Clears « Reply #54 Today at 6:27am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 6:23am, bbildman wrote:It sure sounds to me there is some "waffling" going on. If that is the case, and if we do not have money in hand, I would hope and request from Chucky that he begins telling us in the open here on the open board exactly what changed his mind that he saw that made him a believer regarding payments coming this year. I would hope and request he reveal ALL the details as he knows them, naming names, naming documents he has seen, who told him what and WHY he has been so adamant that payment was to come (assuming it doesn't). I can't twist his arm, but I think he would owe us that if we have no cash. I say this without rancor, nor disrespect...except this has got to end somehow. It's time we heard all the gory details...and to withhold that from us would be disrespectful. If he tells us there is yet another date certain, I would tell him simply he's been there, done that...and that carries no water any longer. I lift a glass to Chucky in the hopes we get paid...and also that he has the fortitude and courage to open the book on what he has learned and who told it to him if no funds are forthcoming. ______________________________________________________________________ Waffling? lolol...... It's actually not waffling but just as I have explained it. Either we get paid or we do not. If we do not, I will not give you any more information than I already have. Why would I reveal my source? It won;t be his fault if we are not paid just as it won't be mine. Ask your Congressman if we don't get paid. If we don't get paid I will have no more dates to offer, regardless of what I am told. CHucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=36178&page=3#507826
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Post by lovindiamonds on Dec 28, 2010 9:30:45 GMT -5
The Directive ordering the payment. As for the legal weight it carries - do you believe in the Constitution? CHucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ad=36178&page=3 THERE YOU GO, CHUCKY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD....THE CONSTITUTION, THE MAJOR COG THAT MAKES ALL THE WHEELS GO AROUND INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE "PAYOUT WHEEL"GOLDENGRIFF Goldengriff, Do you think that we will see notification of payments to us before January 1st?
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Post by wolfbela on Dec 28, 2010 9:33:46 GMT -5
Golden,
How about a copy of the US Supreme Court directive.. as I recall a couple of months ago you told me this had to be over then..Treasury and all that other stuff..
What gives.. How about having your source cough up a copy of the SC directive...
J WB
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Post by sweetsp7 on Dec 28, 2010 9:50:03 GMT -5
Re: IMO: When The Smoke Clears « Reply #65 Today at 6:48am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 6:40am, bbildman wrote:Chucky's words..."If we don't get paid I will have no more dates to offer, regardless of what I am told." Which is EXACTLY what you should have done in the first place...if you're now saying maybe it won't happen...a sight different than all the positive sure nuff statements you made that it WOULD happen by year's end. You can say what you will...but it would have taken more discretion and wisdom for you to simply have said nothing, knowing it was not a sure thing...as you seem to be saying now. You didn't offer many "ifs" back then when you turned positive, telling us it is going to happen. I'm done with this topic, you have certainly given us the big hint that it may not happen. Talk is cheap, both from me AND you Chucky. Money and only money talks...let's see what's/who's talking end of week. _________________________________________________________________________ You are probably the biggest ingrate I have ever run into in my life. I have always practiced discretion when sharing information to those who can handle it here on the boards. Obviously you are not one of those people. You cannot decide for me what I should or shouldn't say, but you can control what you decide to listen to, then again, maybe not. I'm done with you and bobneuhart as I should have been from the get go. Chucky millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=36178&page=4#507849
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