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Post by sweetsp7 on May 8, 2011 14:50:58 GMT -5
By Portrush: When will it happen / Where is the Trust? « Thread Started Today at 11:35am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I was talking to someone slightly older and much wiser than me the other day. He's a CMKX shareholder too...doesn't post much, likes to fly below the radar, but has a strong grip on all we're trudging through. I say "trudging" cause this seems nothing like a walk in the park. I asked him... in his opinion what the likelihood was of us hearing a date--a deadline that could be trusted. Something "leaked" if you will. At least we could shelve the emotion until that time. He reminded me there have been many deadlines (as has been indicated in the past) and said; unfortunately, in a mess this large, complex and world encompassing, deadlines apparently are freely sacrificed to accommodate completeness, fairness and correctness. Pretty sage, so I thought I would share it with everyone so you could noodle on it too. In the end that is probably the correct approach given what’s at stake and what’s involved...if you can wrap your arms around all of it. Its challenging, I will admit. And as much as I don't like hearing all that...it does make sense to me on some level. Several levels, actually. Whether you believe in the sting theory or the WGS or just the complexity of it all...it seems logical that they get one shot to do this right. If its as big as has been speculated, it is no doubt very complex. And from all the rumors out there...this has never been done before (if true) so I can see where they must take all the time necessary to get it right. Whoever "they" are. We spoke about the Trust. I'm thinking it will never be known, not even after payment. Why? Because if it was funded by those who had to pay penalty fees (as we've heard) then I'm thinking they paid those fees in exchange for two things: anonymity and not admitting guilt. Naming the Trust puts both at risk. If nothing else, that would be all it would take in a lawsuit...calling them as witnesses to the fact they paid a fine. Additionally, to identify the Trust is to invite breaching that agreement--hence it won't be known, nor the Trustee(s). Moreover, if evidence in a previous trial (perhaps sealed) its further argument for it never being known, imo, nor the Trustee(s). My friends reply--agreed, never to be known. So at least we're on the same page there. And he reminded me that because of the enormity, much of what we're reading and hearing is indeed, misinfo, disinfo and then our usual speculation. There are "sides" at work still...for whatever purpose you can imagine. On another note, everyone keeps saying the Trust is $3.8 trillion. I will admit I've not gone back and researched this...but I seem to remember that Hodges is suing for $3.8, but never said the Trust WAS $3.8. Is that right? Have we just adapted his words into something we thought we heard...or did the Bivens actually say the Trust had this amount?? To some degree it is moot. My opinion is "just send the check"...I want to hear it is over more than I care to hear how much it is. Not that how much isn't important, it is. But until its declared "done" it might as well be a Quadrillion or $100 a share...matters not, to me. Food for thought, perhaps, but only opinion just the same. pr millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=38843
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Post by briwadd on May 8, 2011 14:59:37 GMT -5
By Portrush: When will it happen / Where is the Trust? « Thread Started Today at 11:35am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I was talking to someone slightly older and much wiser than me the other day. He's a CMKX shareholder too...doesn't post much, likes to fly below the radar, but has a strong grip on all we're trudging through. I say "trudging" cause this seems nothing like a walk in the park. I asked him... in his opinion what the likelihood was of us hearing a date--a deadline that could be trusted. Something "leaked" if you will. At least we could shelve the emotion until that time. He reminded me there have been many deadlines (as has been indicated in the past) and said; unfortunately, in a mess this large, complex and world encompassing, deadlines apparently are freely sacrificed to accommodate completeness, fairness and correctness. Pretty sage, so I thought I would share it with everyone so you could noodle on it too. In the end that is probably the correct approach given what’s at stake and what’s involved...if you can wrap your arms around all of it. Its challenging, I will admit. And as much as I don't like hearing all that...it does make sense to me on some level. Several levels, actually. Whether you believe in the sting theory or the WGS or just the complexity of it all...it seems logical that they get one shot to do this right. If its as big as has been speculated, it is no doubt very complex. And from all the rumors out there...this has never been done before (if true) so I can see where they must take all the time necessary to get it right. Whoever "they" are. We spoke about the Trust. I'm thinking it will never be known, not even after payment. Why? Because if it was funded by those who had to pay penalty fees (as we've heard) then I'm thinking they paid those fees in exchange for two things: anonymity and not admitting guilt. Naming the Trust puts both at risk. If nothing else, that would be all it would take in a lawsuit...calling them as witnesses to the fact they paid a fine. Additionally, to identify the Trust is to invite breaching that agreement--hence it won't be known, nor the Trustee(s). Moreover, if evidence in a previous trial (perhaps sealed) its further argument for it never being known, imo, nor the Trustee(s). My friends reply--agreed, never to be known. So at least we're on the same page there. And he reminded me that because of the enormity, much of what we're reading and hearing is indeed, misinfo, disinfo and then our usual speculation. There are "sides" at work still...for whatever purpose you can imagine. On another note, everyone keeps saying the Trust is $3.8 trillion. I will admit I've not gone back and researched this...but I seem to remember that Hodges is suing for $3.8, but never said the Trust WAS $3.8. Is that right? Have we just adapted his words into something we thought we heard...or did the Bivens actually say the Trust had this amount?? To some degree it is moot. My opinion is "just send the check"...I want to hear it is over more than I care to hear how much it is. Not that how much isn't important, it is. But until its declared "done" it might as well be a Quadrillion or $100 a share...matters not, to me. Food for thought, perhaps, but only opinion just the same. pr millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=38843 Portrush, wasn't it you who received an email from Al where he stated that he had contacts at the Fed who stated there was 3.87 trillion earmarked for CMKX?
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Post by marbearcat on May 8, 2011 15:09:27 GMT -5
I agree that things must be kept on the "down-low" I agree 100% about this which is why I call to the carpet all those that claim to be "in-the-know" and tell us when the big day will be coming. They are full of it! Oh, in my opinion!
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Post by sunbeam777 on May 8, 2011 17:22:39 GMT -5
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well.. sorry..i dont believe a lawyer called him up and asked to be paid off and they wont ask questions
Chopperguy: completely rediculous Lucy
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: either someone was playing something on bob..or tahts just. well.. ridiculous
rick44_2: no way lucy, to me, that is more ridiculous than any thing i have ever heard, agree with you, someone is trying to play us sounds like imo
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well seeing that they are bad guys..bob should put out the names.. no reason not to
rick44_2: agree, i think that is the only way this is going to get over with. If everyone keeps trying to hide everything from everyone, no one will ever get anywhere. we could do this for the rest of our lives Time to have the truth come out imo
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Post by sunbeam777 on May 8, 2011 17:24:13 GMT -5
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Post by marbearcat on May 8, 2011 17:57:38 GMT -5
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well.. sorry..i dont believe a lawyer called him up and asked to be paid off and they wont ask questions Chopperguy: completely rediculous Lucy LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: either someone was playing something on bob..or tahts just. well.. ridiculous rick44_2: no way lucy, to me, that is more ridiculous than any thing i have ever heard, agree with you, someone is trying to play us sounds like imo LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well seeing that they are bad guys..bob should put out the names.. no reason not to rick44_2: agree, i think that is the only way this is going to get over with. If everyone keeps trying to hide everything from everyone, no one will ever get anywhere. we could do this for the rest of our lives Time to have the truth come out imo Anyone know what the heck this is about?
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Post by marbearcat on May 8, 2011 17:58:34 GMT -5
LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well.. sorry..i dont believe a lawyer called him up and asked to be paid off and they wont ask questions Chopperguy: completely rediculous Lucy LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: either someone was playing something on bob..or tahts just. well.. ridiculous rick44_2: no way lucy, to me, that is more ridiculous than any thing i have ever heard, agree with you, someone is trying to play us sounds like imo LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: well seeing that they are bad guys..bob should put out the names.. no reason not to rick44_2: agree, i think that is the only way this is going to get over with. If everyone keeps trying to hide everything from everyone, no one will ever get anywhere. we could do this for the rest of our lives Time to have the truth come out imo Anyone know what the heck this is about? Why post something like this and not say what this pertains to?
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Post by 3bid on May 8, 2011 18:17:00 GMT -5
Anyone know what the heck this is about? Why post something like this and not say what this pertains to? Reply #58: Hello Dicek, Your questions are very good, but require a considerable amount of background explanation. An abbreviated response would open up more questions and misinterpretations. The fact that we are about to finish our journey, I do not feel it is prudent or constructive to provide these details at this stage. There are entities who are not working in the best interest of the Shareholders. The ones working on releasing the funds to the shareholders have been threatened with lawsuits. I was contacted by an attorney who said he would take me to court unless we 1. Provide information what Attorney Hodges has and what he is doing... 2. Pay the Attorney and his friends and they will go away. I am focused on providing what updates I can to the Shareholders of the present and future situation as long as the information does not jeopardize or cause an delays in releasing the funds to the shareholders. Thank you Dicek for your understanding , BHollenegg millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ad=38820&page=2
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Post by marbearcat on May 8, 2011 18:37:17 GMT -5
Why post something like this and not say what this pertains to? Reply #58: Hello Dicek, Your questions are very good, but require a considerable amount of background explanation. An abbreviated response would open up more questions and misinterpretations. The fact that we are about to finish our journey, I do not feel it is prudent or constructive to provide these details at this stage. There are entities who are not working in the best interest of the Shareholders. The ones working on releasing the funds to the shareholders have been threatened with lawsuits. I was contacted by an attorney who said he would take me to court unless we 1. Provide information what Attorney Hodges has and what he is doing... 2. Pay the Attorney and his friends and they will go away. I am focused on providing what updates I can to the Shareholders of the present and future situation as long as the information does not jeopardize or cause an delays in releasing the funds to the shareholders. Thank you Dicek for your understanding , BHollenegg millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ad=38820&page=2 Ok, thanks 3Bid. Here, for your troubles, have a cat: >"<
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Post by marbearcat on May 8, 2011 18:39:08 GMT -5
In case anyone is wondering, that line about paying and going away is not Fryar. My guess is if it is EVEN TRUE that it is an independant attorney representing some other group of pizzed off shareholders.
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Post by marbearcat on May 8, 2011 18:41:19 GMT -5
Hey Bob, we're still on track for getting paid or notification this week right?
Just wanted to make sure.
Argh!
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Post by z06mike on May 8, 2011 18:42:34 GMT -5
Who's attorney made threats and ultimatums to Bob? Sounds like a dumb attorney. Doesn't make much sense, logically. Perhaps Fryar could help. What's weird is, I would think Al would be on this like white on rice.
Mike
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Post by marbearcat on May 8, 2011 18:44:28 GMT -5
Who's attorney made threats and ultimatums to Bob? Sounds like a dumb attorney. Doesn't make much sense, logically. Perhaps Fryar could help. What's weird is, I would think Al would be on this like white on rice. Mike To be totally honest, I don't believe it.
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Post by Display Name on May 8, 2011 19:16:12 GMT -5
By Portrush: When will it happen / Where is the Trust? « Thread Started Today at 11:35am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I was talking to someone slightly older and much wiser than me the other day. He's a CMKX shareholder too...doesn't post much, likes to fly below the radar, but has a strong grip on all we're trudging through. I say "trudging" cause this seems nothing like a walk in the park. I asked him... in his opinion what the likelihood was of us hearing a date--a deadline that could be trusted. Something "leaked" if you will. At least we could shelve the emotion until that time. He reminded me there have been many deadlines (as has been indicated in the past) and said; unfortunately, in a mess this large, complex and world encompassing, deadlines apparently are freely sacrificed to accommodate completeness, fairness and correctness. Pretty sage, so I thought I would share it with everyone so you could noodle on it too. In the end that is probably the correct approach given what’s at stake and what’s involved...if you can wrap your arms around all of it. Its challenging, I will admit. And as much as I don't like hearing all that...it does make sense to me on some level. Several levels, actually. Whether you believe in the sting theory or the WGS or just the complexity of it all...it seems logical that they get one shot to do this right. If its as big as has been speculated, it is no doubt very complex. And from all the rumors out there...this has never been done before (if true) so I can see where they must take all the time necessary to get it right. Whoever "they" are. We spoke about the Trust. I'm thinking it will never be known, not even after payment. Why? Because if it was funded by those who had to pay penalty fees (as we've heard) then I'm thinking they paid those fees in exchange for two things: anonymity and not admitting guilt. Naming the Trust puts both at risk. If nothing else, that would be all it would take in a lawsuit...calling them as witnesses to the fact they paid a fine. Additionally, to identify the Trust is to invite breaching that agreement--hence it won't be known, nor the Trustee(s). Moreover, if evidence in a previous trial (perhaps sealed) its further argument for it never being known, imo, nor the Trustee(s). My friends reply--agreed, never to be known. So at least we're on the same page there. And he reminded me that because of the enormity, much of what we're reading and hearing is indeed, misinfo, disinfo and then our usual speculation. There are "sides" at work still...for whatever purpose you can imagine. On another note, everyone keeps saying the Trust is $3.8 trillion. I will admit I've not gone back and researched this...but I seem to remember that Hodges is suing for $3.8, but never said the Trust WAS $3.8. Is that right? Have we just adapted his words into something we thought we heard...or did the Bivens actually say the Trust had this amount?? To some degree it is moot. My opinion is "just send the check"...I want to hear it is over more than I care to hear how much it is. Not that how much isn't important, it is. But until its declared "done" it might as well be a Quadrillion or $100 a share...matters not, to me. Food for thought, perhaps, but only opinion just the same. pr millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=38843 Portrush, wasn't it you who received an email from Al where he stated that he had contacts at the Fed who stated there was 3.87 trillion earmarked for CMKX? Hodges said the following in an update last year. pr is the one that needs to read more attentively 1. How Much Money – As I have said before, we have persuasive evidence to all of the facts alleged as such in the complaint; accordingly, there is a total of 3.87 Trillon Dollars. Read more: cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=14499#ixzz1LoFnCMaN
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Post by Brigantine on May 8, 2011 19:20:33 GMT -5
who's (hz) 1. Contraction of who is. 2. Contraction of who has.
whose (hz) adj. 1. The possessive form of who. 2. The possessive form of which.
Mike, I know you know better. So that is all I have to say about that.
Secondly, if you think about what you said, you will realize that a competent attorney would blow off ultimatums and threats regarding statements made by another less competent attorney as not being actionable, unworthy of his time and otherwise a non-threat.
Sort of along the lines of taking every non-event on a message board and interpreting it as a logical and compelling reason to join a particular action.
Personally, I would deduce that being a thinking human being, you would relax and realize that every time a rumor apex fails to produce results, your ranks will grow. To be in there slinging mud at every single comment made by the rumor mongers is both detrimental and unworthy of your efforts.
Peace.
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