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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:13:20 GMT -5
I am posting a few threads as I said I would in this post cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/thread/10940/get-paid-when-fed-goes?page=6---------------------------------------- So there is going to be a public global currency reset by January 1, 2014? We won, but we didn't win since the battle rages on and of course throw in some dinar for good measure? OK, global currency rest by January 1. My personal "sources" in my own brain tell me that won't happen, but hey let's see what happens. Nothing "merry" about it. Quoting Al Hodges from his note to us-----> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Every indication from every credible source is that the Reset will become public today, tomorrow, the next day, or certainly by January 1, 2014. I cannot guarantee this of course, but it does represent my best opinion based on all available information. I can absolutely assure you that the wonder of what you are so soon to experience – REALITY – will mightily blow away any doubt, disbelief, bitter humor, or unhappy memories that recent experiences have encouraged and supported. As I have said in the past, “you will be paid a great deal more than any have the right to expect [based on the amount of [your] investment]. In addition, you will receive a payment for the unconscionable length of payment delay.” Sincerely. Al Hodges " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So now with this said above and what is in color and bold..... Al throws out that time frame of January 1st and then says in the next line..." I can not guarantee this of course..... based on all AVAILABLE information. Well I mean this in a very positive way..... because I believe what Al says is going to be the case..... it just might not be at that exact time of January 1st.... which is fine. What is important here is that what Al acknowledges with out the time frame stuff..... is that most of this is probably the case with maybe not including the exact time said here. What is most likely important is that what is being said besides the time frame..... is that we showed be looking for when this does happen shortly enough.... 1st quarter to 2nd quarter of 2014 the latest..... is that it is most likely going to happen. Why is this most likely going to happen? How about the QUADRILLION DOLLAR DERIVATIVE MESS THAT IS EXACTLY LURKING OVER THE WHOLE GLOBAL ECONOMY AND THE SIZE OF THIS IS 25 TIMES THE SIZE OF THE WHOLE GLOBAL ECONOMY. Why is this so important? Obviously with the derivative industry being 25 times the size of the whole global economy..... IT IS THE GRATEFUL MONSTER THAT IS GOING TO TAKE OUT THE WHOLE BAD SYSTEM WHEN THE DERIVATIVES BUBBLE GETS IGNITED. Why is the derivatives monster still asleep and not a peep from since the 2008 financial crisis? BECAUSE THE FED HAS HAD THE INTEREST RATES DOWN TO NOTHING AND WHEN THE INTEREST RATES ARE NON-EXISTANT ......THAT ALLOWS THE DERIVATIVES MONSTER TO BE OFF HIBERNATING AS IT HAS BEEN DOING SINCE THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS. INTERESTING ON WHY THE FED RES HAS INTENTIONALLY KEPT THE INTEREST RATE DOWN SO LOW THROUGH UP TO THIS TIME..... BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN NON-EXISTANT AS IT APPEARS UP TO THIS POINT. So WHAT WOULD FINALLY AWAKE THIS DERIVATIVE MONSTER FROM ITS SLEEP? The INTEREST RATES GOING UP WOULD HAVE NO CHOICE IN WAKING UP THE DERIVATIVE MONSTER AND "BOOM" ...... bye bye financial system...... all of the financial numbers of the housing, jobs and all.... go to immediate crap-ola. SO BASICALLY EVER NUMBER THAT IS BEING SAID ON THE SURFACE WITH OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM STATUS MEANS NOTHING BECAUSE THE DERIVATIVES MONSTER OF $1.4 QUADRILLION ....... IS IN HIBERNATION MODE BECAUSE OF THE FEDS INTEREST RATE NUMBERS BEING SO LOW..... TO ALLOW THE DERIVATIVE MONSTER TO BE NON-EXISTANT AND OFF IN SLEEP MODE. What would wake the derivative monster? THE INTEREST RATE GOING UP FROM ITS SMALL EXISTANCE RIGHT NOW. AND WHAT WOULD CAUSE THE INTEREST RATE TO GO UP TO WHERE THE FED RES COULD NOT INTENTIONALLY KEEP THIS DERIVATIVE MONSTER ASLEEP WITH THE LOW INTEREST RATE? ------> IF THE BONDS MARKET NUMBERS STARTED TO CRASH ENOUGH AND FORCE A CHAIN REACTION WOULD LEAD TO A SELL OFF ON THE DOLLAR...... TO THEN THE NEXT EFFECT WOULD BE THE STOCK MARKET CRASHING WORSE THAN 2008's financial crisis. THERE ARE MANY REASONS THAT WOULD EFFECT THE FED IN FORCING THEM TO RAISE THE INTEREST RATES BUT A FEW FOR EXAMPLE. ALSO IF THE ECONOMY STARTED TO IMPROVE ON WHAT IT WAS IN 2006-ISH..... IF OUR ECONOMY WERE IN THAT STATE OF BEING AT A GOOD LEVEL..... THERE WOULD BE NO WAY FOR THE FED RES TO KEEP THE INTEREST RATE LOW. SO BASICALLY BECAUSE THE INTEREST RATES BEING SO LOW IS WHAT HAS ALLOWED THE DERIVATIVE MONSTER TO SLEEP AND NOT SHOW UP ON ANY RADAR. WHY IS THIS DERIVATIVE MONSTER SO SIGNIFICANT HERE? WELL IF BOB MAHEU WANTED TO REALLY WIPE OUT THE CANCER OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.... HE COULD OF USED THE 25 TIMES THE SIZE OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM....THE DERIVATIVES, TO HIT THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND THE MONEY CONTROLLERS.... THE BANKS.... WOULD BE LEFT HOLDING THE BAGS OF DERIVATIVES THAT NO ONE WOULD WANT BECAUSE 85% TO 90% OF THEM ARE ALL GARBAGE....FACT!!!!!!! SO NOW THE MONEY CONTROLLERS ARE CAUGHT HOLDING BAGS OF GARBAGE THAT NO BODY WANTS AND THEY ARE LEFT HOLDING. WELL WHEN THE MOMENT OF TRUTH COMES...... THANK GOD FOR THE SIZE OF THE DERIVATIVES BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE THESE THINGS THAT ARE ONLY GOING TO FORCE A FINANCIAL RESET AND CURRENCY RESETS AS AL HODGES IS TALKING ABOUT HERE. IT MAY NOT BE BY JANUARY 1ST BUT THE 1ST QUARTER OF 2014 TO THE 2ND QUARTER OF 2014 SEEM TO BE END GAME WITH ALL OF THIS CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM STUFF. Now look in this link and go to mid-page and look at the chart and see thee exact numbers of the stock market today that also led to the crash of 1929's crash and how this chart is showing thee exact same thing....look.... the similarities are astonishing.... just take a look.... it may not be to the exact time of January 14th, 2014..... but something is up folks.... enjoy this chart mid page of this link----> __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Stunning Chart: Today’s Stock Market is Eerily Reminiscent of 1929…Chart at link: www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/stunnning-chart-todays-stock-market-is-eerily-reminiscent-of-1929_12042013___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Read more: noahltl1.proboards.com/thread/4206/stock-market-crash-tapering-watch#ixzz2ocyZEqjO___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now the next thing that is interesting by -Mexican Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price: "I think we are going to see a series of bankruptcies. I think the rise in interest rates is the fatal sign which is going to ignite a derivatives crisis. This is going to bring down the derivatives system (and the financial system).
There are (over) one quadrillion dollars of derivatives and most of them are related to interest rates. The spiking of interest rates in the United States may set that off. What is going to happen in the world is eventually we are going to come to a moment where there is going to be massive bankruptcies around the globe."
Read more: noahltl1.proboards.com/thread/4206/stock-market-crash-tapering-watch#ixzz2od0EpCKI____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ -Financial editor Jeff Berwick: "If they allow interest rates to rise, it will effectively make the U.S. government bankrupt and insolvent, and it would make the U.S. government collapse. . . . They are preparing for a major societal collapse. It is obvious and it will happen, and it will be very scary and very dangerous."
Read more: noahltl1.proboards.com/thread/4206/stock-market-crash-tapering-watch#ixzz2od1C1LKW_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ And lastly...... knowing that the INTEREST RATES are a key thing here and the effect of they being way too low..... and we can now see why... but lets re-look now on the Jay Adobe email to a fellow good shareholder of ours and what is in bold-----> From: Jay Adobe
Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:06Subject: Re: Fwd: Edwards' Penalty To: Scott > Scott, My thoughts are no longer needed. Just re-read my old posts.If nothing else, they are spoken too soon. We are where > we are, and soon enough we will have finally arrived.The > astonishment is yet to come, but this is a good start. It'll end
> with derivatives' finality. Enjoy your day. Hang in there as the > script unfolds all around us and countries continue the re- > alignment. 'Tis a wonderful day to be a shareholder. IMO. Read more: noahltl1.proboards.com/thread/3401/compilation-previous-jay-adobe-posts?page=1#ixzz2od2JIpSf_____________________________________________________________________________________________________ So obviously now with understanding the size of the derivatives mess and what has been allowing them to stay asleep up to this point with the low interest rates.... once one little thing gets out of balance.... whether it be a trigger in the financial system of a crash in the stock market or the bonds market...... OR the financial system just gets better.....WHEN THAT HAPPENS...THE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO UP AND THE DERIVATIVES MONSTER IS GOING TO WAKE UP AND ALL IS GOING TO GO REALLY BAD......AND THE RESETS OF CURRENCIES AND FINANCIAL SYSTEMS ARE GOING TO BE THE ONLY SAVIOR! So with Jay saying, "It'll end in the derivative finality"...... makes too much sense in all of this. Anyway, just sharing some thoughts that I was hoping at least a few might get something out of. Take care and all the best! |
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:14:02 GMT -5
If folks really look AT THE CONNECTIONS here, they all really add up. The said derivative direct or indirect relations..... and there are far to many through the years. Anyway, during Al Hodges' bivens.... when he started his Bivens.... there was not 1 derivative rule/regulation in law yet as of January 8th, 2010. And at the end of the Surpreme Court ruling.... a couple days later.... the last of the derivative rules.... THE MASSIVE CROSS-BOARDER derivative rules went into play.... then finally 5 hours later that day was when the last derivative main rules went into play, coincidentally, Al Hodges had his response come out about whether he was going to take any further action with the bivens or whatever...... AND HE SAID...."WE HAVE WON." I know if anyone were to ask Al if his Bivens were really about using CMKM's proven naked short cert pull proof situation..... and the threat of allowing that "VERY SENSITIVE SITAUTION".... as Bill Frizzell openly said in response to Attorney Fryar when Attorney Fryar was seeking information........point being..... I doubt Al Hodges would be allowed to admit such or he could very well deny it all on the surface picture.... but the proof and point is.... that if the REAL cert pull task force information did really get out ...... and the proof that ALL the bad guys did pay up.... THEN THAT SHOWS THAT THEY ADMITTED TO BEING CAUGHT FOR THAT CORRUPTION. SLAM DUNK.....so Al's bivens in my full belief.... there is too much common sense that proves that his bivens was ALL ABOUT LEVERAGE OF LEAKING OUT THE CMKM STORY in a public court system...... because those lobbyists from the banks..... it is shown now in articles that the Frank Dodd financial reform bill did not happen in a timely fashion BECAUSE OF THE BANK LOBBYISTS FIGHTING THE DERIVATIVE REGULATIONS FROM GOING IN...... but when it looked like Al's bivens had a good chance to go to trial...... all of the sudden the derivative rule regulations floodgates opened starting in July 2012 from the 10th through the 26th of July. And more derivative rules kept going into play up until Al's Bivens was thrown out by the SC.... but a few days later once again..... the last major derivative rules went into play..." the cross boarder derivative rules" and Al finally puts out his SC reply and said "we won." I bet we won because it only makes sense that if we have not been paid by beginning of 2007 when cert pull was completed..... there obviously had to be a good enough reason to hold off any payment until THE SYSTEM REGULATIONS WERE IN TO PREVENT SUCH A CRISIS FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN. And if these large numbers of trillions of said dollars are to be paid out to this shareholder base..... how much in vain would things of really of been if DERIVATIVES WERE NOT REGULATED. HOW IMPORTANT ARE DERIVATIVE RULE REGULATIONS? WE ALL REMEMBER THE FINANCIAL CRISIS OF GREECES A COUPLE YEARS BACK WHERE THEIR FINACIAL SYSTEM CRASHED AND THE PEOPLE/ CITIZENS WERE SETTING FIRE TO THEIR STREETS AND MALLS WITH RIOTS IN RE-ACTION TO THEIR ECONOMY CRASHED/ COLLAPSED? THERE ARE MANY ARTICLES THAT HAVE EXPLAINED SINCE THAT WHAT REALLY CAUSED GREECES' FINANCIAL SYSTEM TO COLLAPSE WAS 1 BAD HUGE DERIVATIVE BET......AND THAT ONE HUGE BAD DERIVATIVE BET TOOK OUT THEIR WHOLE FINANCIAL SYSTEM. SO ARE DERIVATIVE REGULATION A CONCERN? I WOULD THINKS SO ESPECIALLY IF JUST ONE BAD ONE CAN TAKE OUT A WHOLE COUNTRY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM. SO LETS SAY THAT WE WERE PAID ALL OF OUR MONEY..... AND THEN THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM WAS PISSSED AT US WITH US HAVING TRILLIONS OF THEIR MONEY..... COULD THEY OF DONE A DERIVATIVE BET TO TAKE OUT OUR WHOLE SYSTEM IF THEY WANTED TO? OF COURSE THEY COULD OF BECAUSE GREECE PROVED IT IS POSSIBLE. SO FIXING THE SYSTEM FIRST WAS A MUST, TO MAKE SURE THINGS NEVER GET TO THIS LEVEL EVER AGAIN.... AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAD BOB MAHEU CAUGHT EVIDENCE TO FRY HIS APPOSING SIDES....... IF YOU HAVE MASSIVE AMMO TO TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION.... THEN WITH SOMEONE WITH BOB MAHEU'S HISTORY OF TAKING CARE OF HISTORIC MISSIONS FOR THE UNITED STATES LIKE THEE ONASSIS SITUATION AND OTHER THINGS ALIKE, THEN HE WAS MOST LIKELY HERE TO RIGHT A WRONG. FOR BOB MAHEU TO SHOW UP TO A PINK SHEET STOCK AT WHAT OUR LEVEL WAS... FOR SOMEONE LIKE HIM TO COME DOWN TO OUR LEVEL.... WHEN WE ARE LABELLED AS A SCAM AND SO ON..... SOMETHING SHOULD REGISTER THAT SOMETHING NORMAL IS NOT GOING ON HERE. BASICALLY THE POWER OF THE DERIVATIVES.....WITH THEY BEING ABLE TO WIPE OUT A COUNTRY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM COMPLETELY, AS TO WHAT HAPPENED TO GREECE'S..... IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT DERIVATIVES COULD BE USED BY OTHER COUNTRIES AS A WAR METHOD OF TAKING OUT COUNTRIES ENEMY AND THEN WATCH THEIR OWN CITIZENS DESTROY EACH OTHER IN THE CRISIS OF THE SITUATION LIKE GREECE DID. I AM NOT SURE EVERYONE HERE IS CATCHING THEE IMPORTANCE OF THE FIXING OF THESE DERVIATIVES AND THE FACT THAT IN THE HISTORY OF THE MARKETS....THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS TO HAVE THE DERIVATIVES REGULATED AND AT THE LAST SECOND.... THE REGULATIONS WERE DENIED. BUT THEN YOU HAVE A BOB MAHEU MOVEMENT LIKE CMKM WHERE YOU COULD WIPE OUT WALL STREET WITH THE PROOF OF THE DOCUMENTED CERT PULL..... AND IF BOB MAHEU WOUND UP ON TELEVISION OR ANY OTHER AVENUE TO PROVE WHO ALL REALLY MANIPULATED OUR STOCK AND OPEN UP PANDORA'S BOX ON THE REAL MANIPULATIONS OF WALL STREET.... THERE WOULD BE NO MORE WALL STREET BECAUSE IF THE AVERAGE PERSON KNEW THE REAL TRUTHS, NO ONE WOULD HAVE CONFIDENCE IN ANY STOCK MARKET AND BYE BYE TO A SAID STRONG PART TO OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM. AND LETS SAY BOB MAHEU DID LEAK OUT THE NAKED SHORT PROOF OF CMKM AND ALL KNEW ABOUT IT. WOULD THERE BE A STOCK MARKET ANYMORE? PROBABLY NOT. BUT MORE IMPORTANT, IF THERE WERE NO MORE STOCK MARKET, WOULD THERE BE DERIVATIVES AND HEDGE FUNDS OPERATING ANYMORE IF THERE WERE NO MORE STOCK MARKET? MOST LIKELY NOT. SO BASICLY BOB MAHEU HAD SOMETHING AT THE HEART OF THE MATTER..... THE PROVEN AND DOCUMENTED NAKED SHORT....IN THIS STOCK MARKET AND IF HE EXPOSED THIS, THEN BYE BYE TO THE DERIVATIVES AND THE WHOLE MARKET......SO THAT SOUNDS TO ME THAT BOB MAHEU HAD RELATED INFINITE LEVERAGE TO ACCOMPLISH SUCH A TASK. And lets not forget Bob Maheu showed up on January 31st, 2005 and only a couple weeks later as co-chairman of CMKM, Bob shows up on 60 minutes on Feb 28th, 2005 with the Watergate situation. Go figure. Was Bob Maheu respected enough to show up on television and relate to a historic situation ......but mainly could Bob Maheu use the media and be taken seriously if he would find a way to use this route? I bet that was a good leveraged threat to the bad guys that they better pay up or he could head back to 60 minutes and relate to the other 60 minutes episode where Rodney Young with Eagle Tech and the 3 other companies that were on 60 minutes with the topic of naked short selling. Anyway, here is an old Jay post that relates to what is being talked about here----> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ By: jay_adobe 09 Feb 2006, 10:08 AM EST Msg. 117173 of 785115 (This msg. is a reply to 116336 by mjmilamtx.) Jump to msg. # mjm, The SEC is very powerful, omnipotently so. However, I believe for the first time in the history of the financial markets, there stands a goliath in front of the SEC's doors holding a very big stick, that, if swung with full force, could just bring down the institution to its foundation. I don't think the country could survive the stick being swung full-force. I believe we are heading toward the terminal, and although we could possibly get another flat tire, it will only slow us down a little while we fix it (a delaying tactic); but ultimately we will arrive at the terminal and claim, rightfully so, our brimming luggage. Right now, I think we are on track and cruising right along to our final destination. Exact time of arrival: when the driver says so. Consider this IMO.
Read more: noahltl1.proboards.com/thread/3401/compilation-previous-jay-adobe-posts?page=3#ixzz2oddrXLOF____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Anyway, all of this makes too much sense REALLY if the right pieces of thought are put in their right places. And now with the derivative regulations NOW BEING COMPLETELY DONE and now the Volcker Rule vote is done and the BIG banks will have to comply to the Volcker rule by April 1st, 2014...... this is all huge! By the way, interesting timing on the Volcker Rule going into effect with the big banks on April 1st, because it is the big banks that are the issue....anyway.... what is interesting is that our INSIDER COURT CASE IS DUE LATER THAT SAME MONTH OF APRIL, just interesting timing. So what is important about a bigger financial crisis that is said by so many economists in the past couple years and what is been labeled as "INEVITABLE" that there will be another stock market crash BIGGER THAN 2008's FINANCIAL CRISIS.... but back then when this was said a lot.... they gave no exact time. So if this is the window of time now .... the 1st and or 2nd quarter of 2014..... THIS TIME AROUND THESE BIG BANKS CAN NOT PROFIT WITH THEIR OFF BALANCE SHEETS WITH DOING MASSIVE DERIVATIVE BETS LIKE GOLDMAN SACHS WAS KNOWN TO OF DONE WHEN THEY BET ON THE MORTGAGE INDUSTRY COLLAPSING.....ESPECIALLY WHEN IT WAS THEY WHO WROTE THE MAJORITY OF THE BAD LOANS TO MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AND OF COURSE THEY KNEW IT WOULD HAVE TO CRASH SINCE MAJORITY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE MORTGAGES. SO GOLDMAN WROTE THESE, AND INTURN DID A MASSIVE DERIVATIVE BET ON THE COLLAPSE OF THE MORTGAGE INDUSTRY..... AND PROFITTED THEIR BUTTS OFF ON THEIR OFF BALANCE SHEETS. THE POINT IS.... IN A FINANCIAL CRISIS, WHILE EVERYTHING IS HITTING TH FAN, THESE MASSIVE BANKS WERE MAKING A KILLING FINANCIALLY WHILE ALL ELSE WAS GOING TO HELLLL IN A HAND BASKET...... AND THEY KEPT THEIR POCKETS LINED NICELY WHILE EVERYONE ELSE FELT THE SURFACE EFFECTS. SO THIS TIME AROUND WHEN THE BIGGER FINANCIAL CRISIS HITS...... NOW THAT THESE DERIVATIVE RULES ARE NOW IN PLACE..... THESE BIG FINANCIAL ENTITIES CAN NO LONGER PROFIT AS THEY DID IN THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS. THIS IS HUGE FOLKS! AND TO PROVE THAT THE DERIVATIVE RULES ARE DONE AND ARE WORKING..... THE THREAD LAST WEEK THAT I CAUGHT TITLED "CFTC Announces It Is Undercounting Size Of Swaps Market By As Much As $55 Trillion" HAS A LINE IN THE ARTICLE THAT I HAVE IN BOLD AND YELLOW THAT SAYS----> " The agency formally began to report swaps data on a weekly basis just last month."
NOW WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT? WELL THE TITLE SAYS IT ALL..... THEY CAUGHT $55 TRILLION IN THE SWAPS MARKET..... AND THEN THIS LINE ABOVE WITH "THE AGENCY (CFTC) BEGAN TO REPORT SWAPS DATA ON A WEEKLY BASIS "JUST LAST MONTH"...... FOLKS WHY DID THEY START DOING THESE DATA REPORTS JUST LAST MONTH? BECAUSE THAT WAS AROUND WHEN THE DERIVATIVE RULES WERE COMPLETED....... AND THIS EXACT ARTICLE PROVES THAT THEY THE DERIVATIVE RULES ARE WORKING AND CAUGHT $55 TRILLION IN THE SWAPS MARKET. HERE IS THE LINK FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT OF CAUGHT THIS OR DID NOT SEE THE RELIVANCE OF IT. millionaires.proboards.com/thread/47001/cftc-undercounting-swaps-market-55 ANYWAY FOLKS, THIS IS HUGE!!!! SO NOW THAT THESE HUGE THINGS ARE DONE.... NOW SEEMS TO BE A PERFECT TIME TO NOW ALLOW THE SYSTEM TO CRASH ENOUGH TO WHERE THE RESET BUTTON CAN BE HIT, AND AN EXCUSE OR REASON FOR DOING SUCH WILL BE UNDERSTOOD BY ALL. AND SINCE IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FACT THAT WE ( THE US ) ARE THE NUMBER 1 DEBTOR NATION IN THE WORLD...... IF WE DO A FINANCIAL RESET BECAUSE OF OUR MASSIVE DEBT WITH THE DERIVATIVE $1.4 QUADRILLION UNCOVERABLE VALUE....... THEN WHEN A RESET HAS TO WIPE THAT SLATE CLEAN AND CLEAN THE BOOKS TO EVEN.....THEN WE HAVE A NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM. AND THOSE THAT HELD THE DERIVATIVE VALUE AND COULD NOT OF PAID BACK..... THE MONEY CONTROLLERS....THEY LOSE THEIR CONTROL. MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. SO A NEW SYSTEM ONCE THIS RESET BUTTON HAS TO BE HIT WHEN THIS ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN. AND ALSO IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT MANY WEALTH FOLKS NOW.... WHEN THIS CRISIS COMES... THEY WILL BE WIPED CLEAN/ BROKE..... AND THAT MIGHT BE FOE COUPLE REASONS. When some wealthy has their money all spread around in so many different things..... they might not be able to pull their money in time with a situation like such were to happen. And the other reason might be that they will not know until it is too late. So as my belief has been for a long while, I would hate to get my so called millions from CMKM before the crash and then lose it all right when that happens. IT WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE THAT THE TEAM WOULD NOT WANT ONE PENNY OF THE SAID COLLECTED MONEY TO GO IN VAIN..... CONSIDERING HOW HARD OF A TASK IT MOST LIKELY WAS TO PULL OFF THIS WHOLE THING IN COLLECTING THE MONEY. SO THE RESET MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE THAT WE WOULD GT OUR LARGE MONEY IN THE NEW RESETTED SYSTEM. I hope the insider court case money would come before the crash .... if we did not have to wait for April and all of the sudden John Edwards shows in January since his Extradiction runs out this month....December 2013.... so he shows up first THEN URBAN CASAVANT CAN SHOW.... it only makes full sense that is why we have not heard or seen Urban yet because you are not going to have him lingering on the surface waiting for the rest of the insiders to show up because I bet there are a lot of pissed off people in the financial system.... with Urban Casavant because of his company CMKM and all who got caught and the effects after that led to now. So Edwards first, then I look forward to then seeing Urban being found pumping gas at a gas station, lol..... or Urban's attorney shows up after Edwards and acts like proxy for Urban and all the insiders can start throwing out plea deals and ending the CMKM name and situation in the closing chapter of CMKM ...."the insider court case." So a couple cents a share for that is what I hope and soon as the reset happens.... then the 2 other said massive trust funds can be released. Anyway, All of this stuff fits so much in connection in thought in my mind.... it makes too much sense of these peaces of the puzzle all fitting. Anyway, I am looking for January to come around and see if the bonds market is going to start to crash because on a whole other note.... China is already bypassing the dollar and China has signed agreement with around another dozen other countries who are also bypassing the US dollar and if they are not investing into the bonds market anymore..... and at the same time the Federal Reserve just started to taper from their $85 billion down to $75 billion of the money going into the bonds market ...... it would seem that the Fed would want to kick up more money into the bonds market because China said last month they was no more profiting in the US financial system and they were dipping out and there are all of these other countries that are doing the same. So I really wonder if they are intentionally setting the stage and allowing the first quarter activities of 2014 to start to allow to happen and get the things moving towards the new financial system. Anyway, just some thoughts. |
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:15:42 GMT -5
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A Rise In Interest Rates Could Disrupt The Derivatives Market
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derivatives marketAndy Sutton: One of the biggest concerns of savvy investors since the ongoing crisis began in 2008 has been the safety and longevity of the various types of retirement accounts and systems. Throwing gasoline on the flames have been the decisions rendered by courts of ‘law’ regarding the treatment of customer money in the case of the bankruptcy of several brokerage firms, most notably, MFGlobal. The susceptibility of bank deposits has already been firmly established in prior issues of this column. To our alarm and dismay it appears, at least on the surface, as though few are doing anything to prepare for such an eventuality.
Our hope in authoring this collaborative piece is that it will cause more people to assess matters as circumstances pertain to them, and then take proper evasive action. If you still believe in the system and that it exists for your benefit and protection then you may stop reading now.
The bail-in concept actually began to be implemented here in the United States before anywhere else. When a federal appellate court gave its stamp of approval in the Sentinel case, it gave the green light to the theft of customer funds whether they be segregated in a brokerage account (but held in street name) or held as deposits in a traditional banking arrangement. The quiet and subtle change in status from depositors to unsecured creditors that took place back in 2010 has been well documented in this column. The fact that, since the publishing of that seminal work on 4/12/2013, Japan, Britain, and the EU have officially adopted the bail-in doctrine should be very alarming, yet it is nearly uncovered by the lapdog media.
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The outrage over the theft of segregated money in the cases of Sentinel, MFGlobal, and PFGBest has been all but absent. Nobody seems to care that they’re fleeced. The Cypriots are looted over the course of several weeks and other than the cries of the people of Cyprus there is nary a whimper of protest. So, how safe is the $18 trillion in retirement assets in America? Well, after the latest ‘clean-out’ beta test (more on this later) it is probably a good portion less than $18 trillion.
The Sustainability of QE
Most thinking individuals will quickly come to the conclusion that quantitative easing (aka printing money from nothing to buy debt) or monetization is not sustainable in the long run. This creates an immediate problem because our economy and financial system are now addicted to these monthly liquidity injections. The economy and financial system are hooked on the bubbles QE produces. The bottom line is someone has to buy all those new Treasury bonds otherwise deficit spending goes away and an instant depression ensues. It is that simple: someone has to buy the bonds otherwise the economy buys the farm.
There is another problem with QE. Unlike retirement savings, QE is not capital. The work of von Mises and Rothbard, among others, clearly delineates the differences between capital and currency so we won’t expound on that topic here. QE is currency. It is anti capital. Basically QE destroys capital. When all the capital is gone, the economy is gone and in this case, so is the goose that lays the golden eggs for the banksters. And we can’t have that. There is still plenty of fleecing to be done. People are still lining up to take on more debt and pledge more of their future economic output to people who create the enslaving debt from thin air without breaking a sweat. Why should they work when you’re willing to do it for them? Who in their right mind would want to put an end to such a great racket prematurely?
It is this very unsustainable nature of QE that will cause the banksters to go hunting for other liquid sources of capital. There are two big ones in America: bank deposits and retirement savings.
Potential Mechanisms for Confiscation
Contrary to the popular undertone of most hucksters (even in the alternative media) who are constantly warning of ‘imminent financial/economic collapses’ and the theft of everything including the nickel between the couch cushions, it won’t necessarily work that way. We’ve got a distinct socialist trend going in America now and have had one for quite some time.
One likely eventuality is that the government, acting in its now accustomed role as the primary enforcement arm of the banking establishment, would ‘nationalize’ the retirement system. This would likely start with public pension plans and a mandate that these plans invest a minimum percentage of their portfolio in Treasury securities. The Thrift Savings Program (TSP) here in the US is already a major purchaser of Treasury securities for its ‘G’ Fund. Coercing other public pension plans to do the same is the next logical step although it is not without severe consequences. The actuarial models of nearly all pension funds are based on the idiotic notion that portfolios always produce a near 7% rate of return over the long run.
The last decade has put a huge dent in these models, which is one reason why many plans are now underfunded. Demographics and wage shifts are other major problems. We know, you have 101 reasons why your plan is the only one that is safe. We’ve heard them all. We also heard the 101 reasons why your house was the only one on the block that was immune from the housing crash and so forth. Regardless, nearly all plans are underfunded now, to varying degrees. If these plans were forced to take a significant position in Treasury bonds above what they already own, those actuarial models would become absolutely worthless. That is, unless interest rates adjust dramatically upward, which would cause a raft of other problems.
What the nationalization concept would mean for nearly all recipients of pension payments is an immediate and significant cut in their distribution. There are laws against that, right? There are also laws against stealing client money and we saw how well that worked out for the clients so we would suggest taking this possibility rather seriously.
The second potential mechanism is an outright bail-in where the funds are re-hypothecated (stolen) under the guise of some type of 2008-style crisis, whether it be manufactured or real. Under this type of eventuality, there would be the perceived need for recapitalization of the banking system either in its entirety or majority and the segregated monies in retirement accounts and bank deposits would be used to bail-in the system. The securities in those accounts could be sold to raise more funds to complete the bail-in. Obviously in this scenario the pensioner or IRA account owner would be left with little or nothing. At a minimum they’d get what was dubbed a ‘haircut’ when it was done in Cyprus.
Potential Timetables & Triggers
At current there is no timetable for any of this nor are we going to propose one. There is a smattering of information here and there, mostly from sources who are either dubious or compromised, however there is a certain tenor that we can establish from the actions of central banks, policy think tanks, and governments around the world that strongly suggests the eventual nationalization/confiscation is one of the next steps.
Our best projections regarding potential signposts are precisely the kinds of events we’ve seen over the past two weeks: massive volatility and sell-offs, particularly in the bond markets. Japan is a huge potential trigger. The BOJ is walking the razor’s edge with its Abenomics sham and one mistake and over they go and the rest of the globe with them. Increases in both the frequency and magnitude of central bank easing are another signpost. Stunts such as the Bank of Japan directing pension plans where to invest are another good signpost that it is well past time to begin planning.
The past few weeks have produced what we’re going to call a beta test of one of the potential takedown mechanisms. We’ve previously mentioned the addiction of western economies and their financial systems to QE stimulus. For months now market and economic spectators have been wondering aloud what would happen if and when all this QE stops. The mere mention of such an eventuality causes volatility. There is no possible way that the monetary ‘authorities’ don’t know this.
So in that context we present Ben Bernanke’s suggestion a few weeks back that QE may be ‘tapered’. Then the banksters stepped back and watched the fireworks. Predictably the world sold off. Stocks, bonds, and commodities all went down. It was a mini deleveraging event. Then the banksters stepped in and restored a bit of stability to the system before things really got out of hand.
That exercise demonstrated several things. First, it proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that nobody has any idea what any financial asset is actually ‘worth’. All we know is that they are worth more when there is QE than when there isn’t. We have a QE pumped market, which we already knew, but there have been some detractors that have been painting the picture of a bull market based on fundamentals. That is utter nonsense. Secondly, the shock to interest rates caused some major cracks in the financial façade. Interbank rates in China skyrocketed and at least one bank allegedly hit the mat and had to be bailed out (CIBC). There were probably more. Keep in mind there are several hundred trillion dollars worth of derivatives tied to interest rates alone.
The trigger is obvious. The ‘end’ or even suggested end of QE causes a spike in interest rates, which wipes out a good portion of the world’s banks. Essentially allowing what started after Bernanke’s speech to proceed unchecked and gain momentum. The bail-in is on. There aren’t nearly enough deposits or retirement savings to cover the derivatives market. The leverage is enormous and even the smallest of moves is going to cause problems. The banksters, including their spokesman, the little professor in DC, know all this.
Others might not be willing to say this, but we are. If we end up with a spike in interest rates because of the end (or threatened end) of QE with the banks of the world needing to be bailed in with your savings, then it was done intentionally. It was not an accident as will undoubtedly be reported. It wasn’t a ‘black swan’. They did their test the other week and saw the results. We are hostages to QE forever. Without it, the entire system perishes. And, as we pointed out earlier, even that isn’t enough. One way or another America’s retirement savings are on borrowed time. Sadly there are no other conclusions that really make sense given all that has already happened.
Conclusions
One thing we wonder at with amazement is the absolute unwillingness of most first world citizens to even consider making changes in their standard of living. A simple 20% cut in standard of living by Americans would provide a huge degree of flexibility with regards to weathering the storm that lies dead ahead, yet people won’t do it. They won’t even talk about it for the most part and your authors have seen this mentality on two continents. Standard of living is sacrosanct. The second thing that is truly amazing is the lengths people will go to in order to remain in denial. We cannot state strenuously enough that you ignore the events going on around you at your own extreme risk and peril.
We’ve gone out on a limb here, presenting what is basically a circumstantial case against central banks and governments when it comes to the matter of your retirement accounts. We’ve demonstrated the need for your capital to keep their Ponzi scheme going. We’ve demonstrated their willingness to swipe other types of assets with the full blessing of the judicial system. We don’t have whitepapers such as the FDIC/BOE and BIS position papers on bank deposits – yet. We have no inside information and don’t purport to have secret contacts with thingy Tracy watches as many others do. We’re merely presenting what has already taken place and the fact that the current paradigm is in great jeopardy unless your savings are separated from you and placed under their control to some degree or another. The world would be much better off if the paradigm just ended, however it won’t go quietly into that good night and neither should you. However, with information and knowledge come responsibility and a call to action. Posterity strongly suggests it. Freedom absolutely demands it.
This article is brought to you courtesy of Andy Sutton and Graham Mehl from Sutton & Associates.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:18:46 GMT -5
latteplease DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Posts: 2,924 Published on Zero Hedge (http://www.zerohedge.com) The Probability Of A Stock Market Crash Is Soaring
By Tyler Durden Created 12/26/2013 - 20:06 Tyler Durden's picture [1] Submitted by Tyler Durden [1] on 12/26/2013 20:06 -0500 Ben Bernanke [2] Equity Markets [3] Federal Reserve [4] Gross Domestic Product [5] John Hussman [6] Market Crash [7] New York Stock Exchange [8] Quantitative Easing [9] Volatility [10] While some individual stocks (cough TWTR cough) may have reached irrational bubble territory, the US equity market is undergoing a seemingly 'rational' bubble. However, as John Hussman illustrates in the following chart, the probability of a stock market crash is growing extremely rapidly. Based on the this paper [12], Hussman simplifies the rational bubble as: You only hold one long one more period if expected return is positive - requiring EXTRAGAIN x (1-p) + CRASHLOSS x (p) to be greater than 0. As John goes on to explain, The diva is already singing, the only question is how long they hold the note... [13] Regardless of last week’s slight tapering of the Federal Reserve’s policy of quantitative easing, speculators appear intent on completing the same bubble pattern that has attended a score of previous financial bubbles in equity markets, commodities, and other assets throughout history and across the globe. The chart below provides some indication of our broader concerns here. The blue lines indicate the points of similarly overvalued, overbought, overbullish, rising-yield conditions across history (specific definitions and variants of this syndrome can be found in numerous prior weekly comments). Sentiment figures prior to the 1960’s are imputed based on the relationship between sentiment and the extent and volatility of prior market fluctuations, which largely drive that data. Most of the prior instances of this syndrome were not as extreme as at present (for example, valuations are now about 35% above the overvaluation threshold for other instances, overbought conditions are more extended here, and with 58% bulls and only 14% bears, current sentiment is also far more extreme than necessary). So we can certainly tighten up the criteria to exclude some of these instances, but it’s fair to say that present conditions are among the most extreme on record. This chart also provides some indication of our more recent frustration, as even this variant of “overvalued, overbought, overbullish, rising-yield” conditions emerged as early as February of this year and has appeared several times in the past year without event. My view remains that this does not likely reflect a permanent change in market dynamics – only a temporary deferral of what we can expect to be quite negative consequences for the market over the completion of this cycle. Narrowing our focus to the present advance, what concerns us isn’t simply the parabolic advance featuring increasingly immediate impulses to buy every dip – which is how we characterize the psychology behind log-periodic bubbles (described by Didier Sornette in Why Markets Crash). It’s that this parabola is attended by so many additional and historically regular hallmarks of late-phase speculative advances. Aside from strenuously overvalued, overbought, overbullish, rising-yield conditions, speculators are using record amounts of borrowed money to speculate in equities, with NYSE margin debt now close to 2.5% of GDP. This is a level seen only twice in history, briefly at the 2000 and 2007 market peaks. Margin debt is now at an amount equal to 26% of all commercial and industrial loans in the U.S. banking system. Meanwhile, we are again hearing chatter that the Federal Reserve has placed a “put option” or a “floor” under the stock market. As I observed at the 2007 [14] peak, before the market plunged 55%, “Speculators hoping for a ‘Bernanke put’ to save their assets are likely to discover – too late – that the strike price is way out of the money.” The following chart is not a forecast, and certainly not something to be relied upon. It does, however, provide an indication of how Sornette-type bubbles have ended in numerous speculative episodes in history, in equities, commodities, and other assets, both in the U.S. and abroad. We are already well within the window of a “finite-time singularity” – the endpoint of such a bubble, but it is a feature of parabolas that small changes in the endpoint can significantly change the final value. The full litany of present conditions could almost be drawn from a textbook of pre-crash speculative advances. We observe the lowest bearish sentiment in over a quarter century, speculation in equities using record levels of margin debt, depressed mutual fund cash levels, heavy initial public offerings of stock, record issuance of low-grade “covenant lite” debt, strikingly rich valuations on a wide range of measures that closely correlate with subsequent market returns, faith that the Fed has put a “floor” under the market (oddly the same faith that investors relied on in 2007), and the proliferation of “this time is different” adjustments to historically reliable investment measures. (PLEASE GO TO LINK TO SEE CHARTS FOR THIS ARTICLE) www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-26/probability-stock-market-crash-soaringEven at 1818 on the S&P 500, we have to allow for the possibility that speculators have not entirely had their fill. In my view, the proper response is to maintain a historically-informed discipline, but with limited concessions (very small call option positions have a useful contingent profile) to at least reduce the temptation to capitulate out of undisciplined, price-driven frustration. Regardless of whether the market maintains its fidelity to a “log-periodic bubble,” we’ll continue to align our position with the expected return/risk profile as it shifts over time. That said, the “increasingly immediate impulses to buy every dip” that characterize market bubbles have now become so urgent that we have to allow for these waves to compress to a near-vertical finale. The present log-periodic bubble suggests that this speculative frenzy may very well have less than 5% to run between current levels and the third market collapse in just over a decade. As I advised in 2008 [15] just before the market collapsed, be very alert to increasing volatility at 10-minute intervals. Ben Bernanke Equity Markets Federal Reserve Gross Domestic Product John Hussman Market Crash New York Stock Exchange Quantitative Easing Volatility Source URL: www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-26/probability-stock-market-crash-soaring |
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:20:48 GMT -5
What doesn't make sense? We need a "NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM." The current one is loaded with bad controllers who have led us to this point. And with all the extra garbage they created....$1.4 QUADRILLION dollars in the derivatives....WHICH IS 25 TIMES THE SIZE OF THE WHOLE GLOBAL ECONOMY......and the derivatives are really nothing but have a strain being as big as they are. SO HOW DO YOU GET RID OF SOMETHING THIS SIZE....THAT CAN NOT BE COVERED? A FINANCIAL RESET!.....WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN..... AND GET RID OF ALL THE GARBAGE FROM PREVENTING IT FROM GOING INTO THE NEW SYSTEM. ALSO IT IS SAID THAT THOSE WHO HOLD MAJORITY OF THE UNCOVERABLE DERIVATIVES, ARE THE BIG BANKS AND MONEY CONTROLLERS. SO IF THE SYSTEM WERE TO CRASH.....THEN TO WHICH IT WOULD FORCE A RESET, THEN OBVIOUSLY THOSE BAD DERIVATIVES WILL BE WIPED CLEAN BUT ALSO THOSE OLD CONTROLLERS WHO HAD THEIR BAD DERIVATIVE POSITIONS FORGIVEN....WOULD ALSO LOSE THEIR CONTROL OF CONTROLLING OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
AND PAYING US BEFORE SUCH A CRASH...WITH THE SAID LARGE AMOUNTS WE WOULD BE GETTING.... WOULD YOU WANT ANY OF THAT TO GET LOST DURING A CRASH AND RESET? I DO NOT THINK THE TEAM WOULD WANT ONE PENNY LOST OF WHAT IS SAID THEY ACCOMPLISHED IN ACHIEVING THIS MONEY. AND IF WE HAD IT, WE WOULD PROBABLY CONVINCE OURSELVES THAT WE WOULD KNOW WHAT TO DO IN PROTECTING THIS BUT SORRY, THERE ARE FAR TO MANY MORE SHAREHOLDERS NOT ON THE BOARDS FOLLOWING THIS WHO WOULD LOSE THEIR BUTTS IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN. ONCE AGAIN, IF THE TEAM KNOWS THE FUTURE EFFECTS OF WHAT IS GOING TO COME ABOUT, THEN I THINK THEY ARE PROBABLY HOLDING IT IN THE SAFEST PLACE TO PREVENT MUCH OF ANY LOSS IF ALL WERE TO HAPPEN AS SUCH.
AS MANY ARTICLES HAVE SAID, IN THIS INEVITABLE MARKET CRASH THAT IS COMING AND IS GOING TO BE FAR WORSE THAT 2008'S FINANCIAL CRISIS, THOSE THAT ARE WEALTHY GOING INTO SUCH A FINANCIAL CRISIS ARE MOST LIKELY GOING TO GO BROKE. SO IF YOU WANT YOU MONEY NOW BEFORE THEN....THEN ENJOY, I HOPE YOU GET IT AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU HAVE A COUPLE PENNIES LEFT TO BUY A PIECE OF BUBBLE GUM WHEN ALL IS OVER.
ME PERRSONALLY, AS MUCH AS I NEED THIS MONEY TOO, THE LAST THING I WANT IS TO GET IT NOW AND THEN LOSE IT ALL A COUPLE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD TO NEVER HAVE IT AGAIN DUE TO THE POSSIBLE LOSSES COMING IF MANY ECONOMISTS WHO HAVE MADE THESE CLAIMS ARE CORRECT. SORRY, I WILL TRUST IN THE TEAM AND ALLOW THEM TO KNOW WHEN MY TIME IS CORRECT TO RECIEVE THE HISTORIC REWARDS.
IF A POSTER BY THE NAME OF JAY ADOBE KNEW ABOUT LEHMAN BROTHER GOING BYE BYE 6 MONTHS BEFORE THAT HAPPENED THEN I WOULD HAVE TO FULLY AGREE THAT OUR TEAM HAD TO KNOW THAT TOO. HOW COULD SOME AVERAGE POSTER ON A PROBOARD MAKE THAT CLAIM IN MARCH 2008. AND HE ALSO SAID 6 MONTHS BEFORE THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS STARTED, "THE MARKETS ARE ABOUT TO BE TESTED TO THEIR BRINKS." AND THEY SURE WERE. HANK PAULSON WAS IN FRONT OF CONGRESS ASKING FOR $700 BILLION TO BE PAID IN A 15 HOUR WINDOW OF TIME OR THE WHOLE GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE. THAT THERE SOUNDS TO ME THAT JAY WAS CORRECT WITH HIS POST 6 MONTHS PRIOR WITH SAYING THAT THE MARKETS ARE ABOUT TO BE TESTED TO THEIR BRINKS. AND I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR "OH NO GURU HAS NEVER BEEN RIGHT AND NOR HAS JAY. READ THE d**n POSTS AND PAY ATTENTION TO THE DATES OF WHEN HIS STUFF WAS POSTED AND USE THE COMMON SENSE OF WHAT HAPPENED 6 MONTHS LATER. HE WAS SPOT ON AS HE WAS SO MANY TIMES BEFORE. SO ONCE AGAIN, IF HE WERE CORRECT, I BELIEVE OUR TEAM WOULD OF KNOWN WHAT WAS COMING.
SO WITH THE TEAM MOST LIKELY KNOWING WHAT IS GOING TO COME ABOUT, I HOLD OPTIMISM THAT THEY KNOW WHEN NOT TO RELEASE THE MONEY AND FROM WHAT A TON OF ECONOMISTS HAVE SAID THROUGH THE PAST COUPLE YES....... IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY STUPID FOR US TO GET OUR SAID WEALTH BEFORE HAND. IF ANYONE CAN GET THEIR MONEY NOW, ENJOY IT WHILE IT LASTS, BUT IF ALL THAT I AM POSTING ABOUT IS CORRECT FROM WHAT MANY UPON MANY HAVE SAID, THEN DO NOT ASK ME FOR HAND OUTS WHEN THE NEW SYSTEM IS IN PLACE AND THE OLD WAS FLUSHED OUT.
ANYWAY, ALL IN MY OPINION.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:22:11 GMT -5
So let me get this straight.. We are supposed to be gleefully anticipating the demise of our economy so 50,000 shareholders can get paid? I seriously doubt the whole ecoonomy is waiting or looking in benefit of just 50 thousand shareholders. But in light of the thought about the 50 thousand shareholders.... let's go back to a speech by George W. Bush pre-September 11th. In this speech President Bush said that in the next 4 years.... 5 trillion dollars is going to be coming through the U.S ecomony and we have to do our best and expand our nets to get as much of that money staying in the U.S financial system." So with this example of thought, The President of the United States was making a big deal about thee importance..... or how huge 5 trillion dollars is going through the financial system. So with using this comparison of thought if our money was 3.87 trillion back on Jan 8th, 2010 with Al Hodges bivens and when interest is adding to that already large amount of money every year...... there is a good chance that that money is probably around the level of George W. Bush's example of 5 trillion dollar example. So the point is, if 5 trillion is such a big to be flowing through the US economy than maybe it has nothing to do with 50 thousand shareholders......but it has to do with what they are worth. And there is a bunch to suggest that we are not the only company being saved here. We ...CMKM .... were probably a key factor with doing a documented cert pull to show a blue-print of proof that naked shorting does exist.... and once that was done or proven..... there were most likely other companies hand picked to be taken care of as well. So mostly the numbers of shareholders from many companies and their valuations mainly..... could be about the large money injected into the finacial system that is important. And our fellow shareholder goldengriff did a good post a little bit ago about if a new system did come about..... that new system would need many new millionaires at the start of that new system to be the circulatory system to the new economy where the spending of money is what keeps the heart beat of any financial system going. And there are those other things that are said to be attached like the World global settlements, Leo Wanta money and whatever else. Who knows about these things but maybe they too might be all going out at the same time to inject the new system. Who knows? But the main point is........ I do not believe it is about 50 thousand shareholders....... It most likely has to do with their value and that value to many economies globally....... and the most likely of other companies being saved and paid too and their stuff all going out at the same time. Just a partial thought for the little time I have to respond. Take care. |
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:24:11 GMT -5
What he is talking about is not years into making but the future.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Reposted from duc post quoting somebody: "I think the rise in interest rates is the fatal sign which is going to ignite a derivatives crisis. This is going to bring down the derivatives system (and the financial system). There are (over) one quadrillion dollars of derivatives and most of them are related to interest rates. The spiking of interest rates in the United States may set that off. What is going to happen in the world is eventually we are going to come to a moment where there is going to be massive bankruptcies around the globe." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ All that quoted is future. And nothing that takes few days to deal with. But to jump on your side.. per duc's scenario, all this would happen within time frame of how long? He has mentioned 1st and 2nd quarter of the year, so .. the rise of interest rates, collapse of financial system, world business bankruptcies, people loosing jobs.. total chaos.. correcting it all to a new system.. and also within that time frame government would release our millions. so time frame is 1-6 months for all that. Marriage of all that.. and to those extremes.. the whole package.. no I don't see it. A friendly reminder.....there was a post in the past where you quoted a post of mine and said it was wrong or did not make sense....and then you said..."but I also did not read your whole post either." So my friendly reminder is this.... read everything before you come to post about it and say it is wrong. The parts about the interest rates going up HAVE EVERYTHING to do with the reason why the derivatives bubble/monster is asleep and why we are currently not feeling the whole size of the 1.4 quadrillion dollar derivative bubble crushing the US economy. And there are many quotes posted from the mexican billionaire and another in quote that also say thee exact samething....... when the interest rates go up ...then here comes the derivative monster awake and alive and come crashing down. And many others in "researching" this say thee exact same thing. There really is no theory here. The fact is there is a derivative bubble hovering over us and its size is 1.4 quadrillion dollars. When that amount of money comes crashing down on let's say our 17 trillion dollar economy ( just using that number based on our national debt number, for this example) when 1.4 quadrillion dollars comes crashing down on a piddley 17 trillion dollar economy..... the only common sense speaks huge problem. And Al Hodges speaks of "reset" and the whole point of this thread speaks volumes on the massive derivative issue and when Al says "reset." Well what is going to cause the "reset" is most likely the derivative mess that can not be paid for or cleared except for a "reset." So obviously this topic does not fit your understanding but there are many in this thread who do see the connections of thought here and no need for me to go any deeper in displaying a post that backs up the points made and for those who do read a post fully and then also spend time researching the topics they might not be aware of ..... to then get a better understanding for themselves.....then good for those kind of people. If this does not fit in thought than so be it..... no need to continue wasting time here. Either one gets it or they don't. Time to move on....Gn. |
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:26:27 GMT -5
bigdaddie DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Posts: 1,259 The Stock Market Has Officially Entered Crazytown Territory[/font] If there is good news, stocks go up. If there is bad news, stocks go up. If there is no news, stocks go up.www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-27/guest-post-stock-market-has-officially-entered-crazytown-territorythis is a monthly chart of the Dow, you can see the overhead resistance line, it's a major hurdel that has held before......the correction doesn't look far off.............you can see from the chart what the last correction looked like.  [/quote]
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:28:41 GMT -5
zieto
DIAMOND JEDI Posts: 774 The 10 year UST bond reached a 3% yield on Friday...YIKES! nakedcapitalism.comhttp://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/12/wolf-richter-happens-next-now-10-year-treasury-yield-hit-psycho-sound-barrier-3.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+NakedCapitalism+(naked+capitalism) Wolf Richter: What Happens Next, Now That The 10-year Treasury Yield Hit The Psycho-Sound Barrier Of 3% Yves here. As Wolf describes, in our brave new work of super-low interest rates, the 10 year Treasury breaching 3% was regarded with fear and loathing by the officialdom. Now with the Fed’s reassurances that the Fed funds rate will remain at just about zero for the foreseeable future, the stock market has popped the Champagne. But will the impact of the withdrawal of support for bond prices impact stocks sooner than the current rally would have you believe? By Wolf Richter, a San Francisco based executive, entrepreneur, start up specialist, and author, with extensive international work experience. Originally published at Testosterone Pit. Treasuries have been skidding, and yields have been on a tear. Today the 10-year yield hit the psycho-sound barrier of 3%. What happened last time this phenomenon occurred? Well, yields bounced off and fell – because the mayhem they’d triggered around the world gave the Fed conniptions and caused it to back off. The last time the 10-year yield hit 3% was in early September, for the briefest moment. But the last time it traded above 3% for any period of time was in 2011. In February that year, it spiked to nearly 4% as QE was petering out. That gave the Fed cold feet, and it unleashed another wave of QE which drove yields down to 2% by the end of 2011, and to a ludicrous 1.38% in July 2012. Ludicrous because it just about guaranteed hapless investors a loss. If they sell it as yields are rising and values are tumbling, there would be a loss of capital. If they hold this paper to maturity, inflation would eat up its value and coupon payments would not be enough to compensate for it. Take your pick! The Fed is trying to stir up 2% inflation, as measured by the core PCE index, which is even more unrealistic for households than the regular CPI. In this scenario, inflation as measured by the CPI might be 2.5% or more, sending the Fed to nirvana, and holders of these notes to bondholder purgatory. They’d lend money to the government for ten years at a loss. Conversely, with the government (and many corporations) borrowing at a profit, it would be smart to go on a borrowing binge, no matter what. That you can’t manipulate a wheezing economy back to health over the long term based on this lofty principle is obvious to all but perhaps the primary beneficiaries, our over-indebted corporate America, the Fed, and the government. But it did lead to equally ludicrously low mortgage rates and to a historic junk-bond bubble with yields of these risky things dropping below the interest that 5-year FDIC-insured CDs used to pay before the Fed purposefully mucked up the lives of savers. In broader terms, it lead to the most gigantic credit bubble mankind has ever seen. Risks no longer mattered, and pricing of risk was removed from investment equations. What it did not lead to was vibrant economic growth. But in May, taper talk started bubbling up and turned into the taper tantrum over the summer. Bonds fell hard, and 10-year treasury yields soared from 1.61% in early May to 3.01% in early September – nearly doubling in four months. Municipal bonds got clobbered. Mortgage rates soared, rendering homes, whose prices had been shooting up for a couple of years, much more expensive to buy. Emerging markets got the jitters. Their currencies fell off a cliff, and their inflation rates roared ahead. This 3%-land suddenly looked scary. The Fed got cold feet once again and backed off its taper threat, and yields plunged again. Well, a little. They bottomed out in October, with the 10-year yield approaching 2.5%. Then yields turned around, and now, with taper talk back on track, and the first $10-billion slice scheduled to take effect in January, the 10-year yield pierced the psycho-sound barrier of 3% for the second time this year. Yet the Fed hasn’t actually done anything. It’s still just talking. And it’s still printing $85 billion a month to buy Treasuries and Mortgage Backed Securities. These moves in the bond market are simply in anticipation of what might happen when or if the Fed actually tapers. Those hapless souls who bought treasuries with longer maturities in the summer of 2012 are contemplating massive losses. They were tricked and fooled and hoodwinked by the Fed. So be it. But Treasury yields impact the real economy too, where people are struggling to get by and where homebuyers have to re-figure out how much of a house they can afford, given skyrocketing home prices and soaring mortgage rates. Rates for 30-year fixed-rate mortgages with conforming loan balances ($417,000 or less) hit 4.64% just in time for Christmas, up from 3.59% in early May, and retail homebuyers – not private equity funds and sundry investors – have pulled back. The Mortgage Bankers Association’s Purchase Index dropped 11% below the same week last year – as interest costs paid by homeowners on these mortgages have jumped by nearly 30% in seven months [read…. The Multi-Pronged Mortgage Debacle Next Year (So Long, “Housing Recovery”). It remains to be seen if the 3% yield on the 10-year Treasury was just a brief foray into utterly forbidden territory during thin holiday-season trading, a forgettable event with little impact and no long-term consequences, or if it was a sign of things to come when the Fed actually starts tapering its bond purchases, and when the cost of borrowing money for the longer term might be allowed to meander back up to where it would normally be in a less manipulated but saner economy.Red high-lite is mine - zieto.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:30:30 GMT -5
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:32:19 GMT -5
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:34:26 GMT -5
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DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Posts: 1,532 " The Global Currency Reset is an extremely complicated undertaking for the major nations of the world. Most people, and many analysts, believe it involves the currency market and the banking systems. That is true enough. However, my informed sources indicate that the entire Reset initiative involves around 8 to 10 very complex, very thorny, very disruptive factors. The fallout from the reset will bring changes to the world order, changes to the balance of geopolitical power, changes to castle lords, changes to Third World residence, and great unclear threats to nuclear proliferation. To regard the main items as currency exchange rates and defaulting banks is painfully naive, but all too prevalent. The reset initiative must be done with respect to careful agreements forged and delicate recalibration of the global balance of power." news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1386350553.php...maybe that's the reason why it has taken so long...: "must be done with respect to careful agreements forged and delicate recalibration of the global balance of power"
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 30, 2014 21:41:22 GMT -5
ming DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Posts: 1,532 " The marketplace as it functions now “adds up to higher costs to all Americans,” said Gary Gensler, the chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates most derivatives. More oversight of the banks in this market is needed, he said. But big banks influence the rules governing derivatives through a variety of industry groups. The banks’ latest point of influence are clearinghouses like ICE Trust, which holds the monthly meetings with the nine bankers in New York." "And the profits on most derivatives are masked. In most cases, buyers are told only what they have to pay for the derivative contract, say $25 million. That amount is more than the seller gets, but how much more — $5,000, $25,000 or $50,000 more — is unknown. That’s because the seller also is told only the amount he will receive. The difference between the two is the bank’s fee and profit. So, the bigger the difference, the better for the bank — and the worse for the customers. It would be like a real estate agent selling a house, but the buyer knowing only what he paid and the seller knowing only what he received. The agent would pocket the difference as his fee, rather than disclose it. Moreover, only the real estate agent — and neither buyer nor seller — would have easy access to the prices paid recently for other homes on the same block".very informative article! thanks a lot for bringing this here!
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