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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:31:30 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney DIAMOND JEDI Poll: The (Alleged) Tyler Gang of Four« Thread Started on Yesterday at 10:48pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Listening to Acca tonight, he claims that the Tyler Group is really a group of four... two who are shareholders, and two who are not. Apparently, these four have given a verbal agreement to settle with the "Old CMKX", but have not yet signed. Moreover, they apparently have some dirt on Urban to hold things up until they achieve their personal and financial objectives.
One would think that a $.005 to $.008 distribution to the shareholders is in our best interests, regardless of whether UC is a good guy or not. So, why would the Tyler Gang work to hold our divvy up?
One possible explanation is that the Tyler Group is trying to claim that any CMKX dividend (e.g. the .005 to .008 distribution accruing from the alleged previous sale of CMKX assets) should revert to the company, and not be distributed directly to the shareholders. Then, they would logically take their piece and figure out what to do with the rest of the funds. (presumably, if they are to be believed, to bring value to the company so we can trade again)
Question: Assuming this information is correct, does this make you angry with the Tyler Clan, or do you trust the Tyler Clan with our (alleged) dividend distribution?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:33:01 GMT -5
Ed Jagacki Dr. Of Diamonds
Joined: Dec 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 154 Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #91 on Today at 8:43am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Question: Assuming this information is correct, does this make you angry with the Tyler Clan, or do you trust the Tyler Clan with our (alleged) dividend distribution?"
Only as fool would get angry at someone - based on an "asumption" provided by a well-known liar. ...and, btw, as long as he thinks he knows about a secret foursome, why doesn't he just identify the others?!?
I am not one who believes in flagrant insults, but this guy really stretches ones ability to be respectful...
In My Opinion, of course...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:33:58 GMT -5
eastcoastswing Diamondologist
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #92 on Today at 8:44am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He is full of it!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:34:48 GMT -5
coachphilm Diamond Hunter
« Reply #93 on Today at 9:56am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Its about time for more room rent, lol...... Time for another Acca show, blaming someone for his lies on why we dont have checks in the mail, fact......lmfao.... closure by_______, you fill in the blanks, we have heard every date known to man kind for closure, lol
PS. Best Labor Day ever......lol
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:35:56 GMT -5
soonerlewDiamond Wiz (Moderator) Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #94 on Today at 10:08am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: chris_252527 Aug 2007, 09:09 PM EDT Msg. 596071 of 596204 (This msg. is a reply to 596034 by bhollenegg.) Jump to msg. # bhollenegg payments made to Urban from Diamond Quality, CMKM and John Edwards totalled out to be $2,030,000.00 based on just a portion of information I viewed from 2002 thru 2003. Does this concern you in any way? By: bhollenegg 28 Aug 2007, 04:26 AM EDTMsg. 596196 of 596203 (This msg. is a reply to 596071 by chris_2525.) Jump to msg. # Chris 2525, your question “payments made to Urban from Diamond Quality, CMKM and John Edwards totaled out to be $2,030,000.00 based on just a portion of information I viewed from 2002 thru 2003. Does this concern you in any way?” The following information provides the link to the SEC filing that states the company agreed to pay Casavant $2,000,000.00 for the Casavant claims in 2002. The payment was financed during this time. Urban was put in-charge as a result of this agreement. This leaves $30,000.00 for 2002 thru 2003. This payment could be part of the interest for the balance owed, CEO salary, and expenses, plus deposits in the 2002 UAJC Irrevocable Trust Fund…a number of legit reasons. This does not concern me, but what does concern me are the delays in payments to all Bona Fide Stockholders. Line 307: Casavant Mining Claims Merger Financings In order to finance the merger with the Casavant Mining Claims, the majority shareholders' approved the Company 's financing plan which to date totals $2,000,000 USD. www.secinfo.com/d123Y7.2d.htm?Find=majority&Line=307#Line307Take care, BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:37:02 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #95 on Today at 10:09am »
ShowMeTheMoney DIAMOND JEDI ***
Re: Acca MP3 8-27-07 « Reply #10 on Today at 1:27am »
Supersleuth...
In a round about way, I sort of posted a recap in the Polling thread that I initiated ealier. Here's the net of it:
Acca claims that the Tyler Group is really a group of four... two who are shareholders, and two who are not. Apparently, these four have given a verbal agreement to settle with the "Old CMKX", but have not yet signed. Moreover, they apparently have some dirt on Urban to hold things up until they achieve their personal and financial objectives.
One would think that a $.005 to $.008 distribution to the shareholders is in our best interests, regardless of whether UC is a good guy or not. So, why would the Tyler Gang work to hold our divvy up?
One possible explanation, discussed within Paltalk, is that the Tyler Group is trying to claim that any CMKX dividend (e.g. the .005 to .008 distribution accruing from the alleged previous sale of CMKX assets) should revert to the company, and not be distributed directly to the shareholders. Then, the Tyler Group would logically take their piece (40%) and figure out what to do with the rest of the funds. (Presumably, if they are to be believed, to bring value to the company so we can trade again)
So, 40% of $2 billion means the Tyler Gang of Four would take away $800 million; and the remaining $1.2 Billion would go to our CEO Kevin West to build CMKM Diamonds back into a trading company.
By the way, has anyone seen Kevin's credentials and resume that prove him capable of running a $1,200,000,000 company? (Sorry, I couldn't resist!)
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:38:24 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #96 on Today at 10:09am »
By: tramp1950 28 Aug 2007, 08:47 AM EDT Msg. 596232 of 596232 (This msg. is a reply to 596071 by chris_2525.) Jump to msg. # chris....no, does not concern me at all...many times, this company didn't have any money, urban used his own money to keep cmkm afloat, until we made some money again. then, when cmkm had some money, urban wrote himself a check to pay himself back.. and thats the bashers biggest #1 thing they say... urban wrote himself checks.. now, should he not be paid back money lent to the company?
also, he paid 100% for the cert pull, out of his own pocket.. didn't come gfrom you or anyone else.. not even cmkm diamonds.. did you convienetly forget that too? you bashers are way to easy to show and prove your wrong.. way easy.. everyone can see thru your tactics...
you made your choice which side of the fence you want to be on.. and you will see the results of that decision one day.
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By: chris_2525 28 Aug 2007, 09:14 AM EDT Msg. 596244 of 596244 (This msg. is a reply to 596232 by tramp1950.) Jump to msg. # tramp my response to you:
chris....no, does not concern me at all...many times, this company didn't have any money, urban used his own money to keep cmkm afloat, until we made some money again. then, when cmkm had some money, urban wrote himself a check to pay himself back.. and thats the bashers biggest #1 thing they say... urban wrote himself checks.. now, should he not be paid back money lent to the company?
In a publically traded corporation which CMKM Diamonds was once if the CEO lent money to the company you was supposed to have a loan document made up and signed by the CEO that a loan was being made to the corporation with a payback schedule. Urban had no problem with taking money from the corporation but there is no proof he loaned the corporation money. That is the legal way to do it. Now if you have proof that there is a document that shows a loan was made and a repayment schedule with interest cause you are allowed to do that please post the link. Otherwise you have no clue what you are talking about.
also, he paid 100% for the cert pull, out of his own pocket.. didn't come gfrom you or anyone else.. not even cmkm diamonds.. did you convienetly forget that too? you bashers are way to easy to show and prove your wrong.. way easy.. everyone can see thru your tactics...
You might want to do some DD on that tramp. Since you are the know it all. Urban did not pay.
you made your choice which side of the fence you want to be on.. and you will see the results of that decision one day.
I am on the side that wants a ROI on my investment. I can care less where that comes from but in the mean time there are some serious financial questions about where all the money came from and went.
And finally tramp where is the interplead you said was done cause it is not and was never started. Do you have any proof that it was done.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:40:16 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #97 on Today at 10:10am »
bhollenegg bravely battles Bull basher 'baloney'
By: baloney_cleaver 28 Aug 2007, 08:19 AM EDT Msg. 596231 of 596241 (This msg. is a reply to 596207 by bhollenegg.) Jump to msg. # bhollenegg
You just don't get it do you? CMKX was a pump and dump that included within the scam money laundering and cert laundering to enrich the insiders and fleece the peeps. I heard you many times in pal and you were always good for a laugh...I don't expect THAT to change.
- - - - - By: bhollenegg 28 Aug 2007, 08:53 AM EDT Msg. 596233 of 596243 (This msg. is a reply to 596231 by baloney_cleaver.) Jump to msg. # Baloney...you hang out everyday at RB and Pal Talk and you don't own CMKX Shares. You think I don't get it??? I feel hungary..bannanas, nuts, fruitcake...
Bhollenegg
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By: baloney_cleaver 28 Aug 2007, 08:58 AM EDT Msg. 596236 of 596243 (This msg. is a reply to 596233 by bhollenegg.) Jump to msg. # bhollenegg
I 'hang out' to keep an eye on all you fruitloops posting constant misinformation and peep corn mash! LOL!
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By: baloney_cleaver 28 Aug 2007, 09:07 AM EDT Msg. 596238 of 596244 Jump to msg. # bhollenegg, question ...
Why do you support a proven scam that it's insiders and co-cons are under SEC, FBI, DOJ and IRS investigation? And let me tell you a fact bhollenegg, I talk directly to the SEC and the FBI, impeccable sources. Who are your sources bhollenegg, acca, jay?
You have two questions to answer bhollenegg. Let's see if you can answer those two directly without your O so familial twisting of the truth and making a total fool of yourself.
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By: bhollenegg 28 Aug 2007, 09:31 AM EDT Msg. 596257 of 596260 (This msg. is a reply to 596238 by baloney_cleaver.) Jump to msg. # Baloney...you talk directly to the FBI and SEC? Are you being investigated? It is great to know they are doing their job.
My sources are CEO Kevin West, Bill Frizzell, SEC website, Internet, and one of the CMKX Attorneys. I also have a list of individuals who can be trusted with accurate information...I can't find your name...
BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:41:00 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #98 on Today at 10:10am »
By: gusjarvis 28 Aug 2007, 09:37 AM EDT Msg. 596263 of 596264 Jump to msg. # clue for the cluess number four bud burrell talked to the lead investigator for the doj in the cmkx case years ago and kevin and bill still worked with urban for years and kevin and bill did a cert pull with urban that took a year and is still going really.
Mark faulk said this was a major sting operation, I mean major investigation by many gov't agency long long ago, before the interplead kevin worked on for months with urban.
so you have either everything is fine or we have the most incompetent people ever working for us that didn't do their jobs, or they are only telling what they can tell due to non-disclosure. I want to believe the later as there is a thing called negligence.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:41:48 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #99 on Today at 10:11am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: bhollenegg 28 Aug 2007, 09:50 AM EDT Msg. 596276 of 596284 (This msg. is a reply to 596248 by chris_2525.) Jump to msg. # GM Chris 2525...I am going by with all the information I have available. Again, if we have the info on the back of the cashed checks then we can see where the funds are. Bill Frizzell has the cancelled checks. Can you do a post-trip follow-up by phone and ask Bill for the info on the back of the checks?
Thank Chris, BHollenegg
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By: chris_2525 28 Aug 2007, 10:02 AM EDT Msg. 596285 of 596290 (This msg. is a reply to 596276 by bhollenegg.) Jump to msg. # bhollenegg I will try and do that. I will do it in writing today and fax the request. I will only ask for the backside of the checks that I viewed from Diamond Quality and CMKM in the beginning since that is what this discussion is about.
Fair enough?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:42:53 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #100 on Today at 10:29am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: whyme176 28 Aug 2007, 10:22 AM EDT Msg. 596294 of 596311 Jump to msg. # I do Thank chris for going and taking the effort and expense /..
But its like talking to somone getting a divorce if you talk to just the one side You tend to side with them...
Yet their is another side of the story...
And the side your hearing may not always be the whole story/.//
Am I the only one that thinks Kevin and Bill our still under Bob Maheus guidance.
By: bhollenegg 28 Aug 2007, 10:27 AM EDT Msg. 596299 of 596311 (This msg. is a reply to 596294 by whyme176.) Jump to msg. # Whyme...no you are not the only one.
Take care, BHollenegg
By: chris_2525 28 Aug 2007, 10:51 AM EDT Msg. 596311 of 596311 (This msg. is a reply to 596294 by whyme176.) Jump to msg. # whyme I totally agree but at least that side is real, last I checked the following individuals have said nothing:
Mr. Casavant Mr. Mahue Mr. Stocklein Mr. Glenn
I am talking about cold hard facts since we have only the one side at this moment than that is what I see.
When the other side decides to speak or open their information highway open I will gladly go to one of their offices and meet with them.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:43:38 GMT -5
eastcoastswing Diamondologist
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #101 on Today at 10:49am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Am I the only one that thinks Kevin and Bill our still under Bob Maheus guidance."
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I am not an expert but the situation does seem very controlled to me. I still find it hard to believe they wouldn't have a webcast or something to take our questions. It is like they don't want to mispeak and say the wrong thing or do or cannot answer certain things beyond lawsuites, etc. JMO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:44:18 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator)
Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #102 on Today at 11:21am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agreed, eastcoast, it is controlled, but I tell myself that it is because there are so many of us. Plus everything is put on the boards. If it were a one on one lawsuit the attorney would tell a single client more. In this case the client is KW. He is the one being told what is and will happen. We, as shareholders, are not being made privy to that info. I would like to be made privy to it. However, the old saying "loose lips sink ships" is true..................But i believe that it has to come out eventually....
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:45:25 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #103 on Today at 11:46am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hawkeye1 Diamond Finder and Miner NOW...Here's my call to the SEC...« Thread Started on Aug 23, 2007, 4:22pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At 2:22 today I called 1-800-732-0330 and I spoke to Randy. I started my conversation with who I was and that I own a lot of stocks over the years and I'm inquiring about one of them CMKX. It's my understanding CMKX was naked shorted. He said "what do you mean naked shorted?" I said "when brokers sell more stock than the outstanding shares." I said like the company Overstock and they won in court. I said I read a lot of info on messages boards and I just want to get a better understanding what is going on with CMKX. He said " The investigation is confidential regarding revocation 2005. I said Mr. Maheu ordered a cert pull for CMKX consisting of 50,000 shareholders and he's connected to the FBI. I said then a law firm owned by Mr. Frizzell coordinated the cert pull and It's my understanding the results showed aprox.1.5 trillion shares shorted. Then I said "Have you heard of Mr. Maheu?" He said "I quite well know who Mr. Maheu is." I said " It's also my understanding chairman Mr. Cox was going to make restitution to damaged shareholders." He said " That is correct. I ask if CMKX was on the list of damaged shareholders and he said "No, not until criminal charges are filed. He said " I could go to the web site www.sec.gov and go to the Investors claim fund section and that would show if we were on the list. He said " The way you get there is after you are on the web site go to the far right column where it says Division/Offices then go to Division Inforcement...click on Inforcement then click on Investors claim fund and scroll down to your company. He said "CMKX will not be there until criminal charges are filed." He said something about Issuer of registration being revoked cannot comment. I also said "It is my understanding the brokers had to pay for all the certs certed is that correct?" He said "I cannot comment." Well there you have what was said and you are welcome to call him. He really seemed sincere and straight up. I will tell you all I believe it's good when we reach out to get info because we have a lot on the line here. If everyone could just take a wack at this big tree sooner or later it might just fall. We as a group can put the pieces together and I believe we are getting closer every day. I will follow up with more calls later on and if anyone has a little time make a call. He was more than nice but there was a lot of questions he would just say "I can not comment." Sincerely, Hawkeye1 tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1187911340
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 28, 2007 15:46:11 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) Re: Rumors (Updated Daily) « Reply #104 on Today at 1:05pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tramp Administrator***** My Call to Randy..SEC.. « Thread Started on Today at 1:24pm » INES1OO: www.zshare.net/audio/335881592cd45b/ Tramp calling sec guy Aug 28 07
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