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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:09:32 GMT -5
By: stockrich0 24 Aug 2008, 08:10 AM EDT Msg. 755573 of 755650 Jump to msg. # Meng, I have a theory...
...it's really quite simple.
I had an epiphany last week, and since then the boards haven't interested me much, be cause I see something that makes everything else look like bs.
Maybe it's wrong, but it's given me a break.
Stockrich.
By: meng_rong_bing 24 Aug 2008, 08:19 AM EDT Msg. 755577 of 755651 (This msg. is a reply to 755573 by stockrich0.) Jump to msg. # stockman of wealth, wat u see, meng have small eyes, he look hard but not see u explain please ;-)
By: stockrich0 24 Aug 2008, 08:53 AM EDT Msg. 755606 of 755650 (This msg. is a reply to 755577 by meng_rong_bing.) Jump to msg. # Okay, here it is...
Before our so-called "trust" was funded, 'our team' had to present a scenario of holy-hell to the bad guys...basically saying, "This is what will happen if you don't pay." Obviously, it was pretty convincing, because many paid...but it wasn't convincing enough, because many didn't.
So...
In respect to those who paid, and in keeping the promise to release "holy-hell" on those who didn't; CMKX-Tyler was created.
Bonafide shareholders often say, "Why can't we get paid if the money was collected?"
Well, this particular plan my have been two-fold, Plan #1, Give bad-guys opportunity to pay, Plan #2, Crush those who didn't.
There are many reputations on the line here, if these guys don't follow through and finish what the started...which means, own-up to the threats they made, they'll never be taken seriously again.
Simply put, the bonafides are the ones who paid, and Tyler are the ones who didn't.
Here's something else...
The DTCC handed out the CIM dividend which basically gives independent documentation to over 1.5 trillion shares. When the SEC got involved by declaring 622 billion unregistered shares for Tyler...I believe they were literally coming to our rescue and validating our claim. The reason why there's no mention of the 1.5 trillion is because those shares have been 'paid for' or cancelled. The 622 have been indentified and validated...the SEC didn't have to do that, they could have said nothing. (they also could have been helping themselves as well).
Anyway, this doesn't involve the "energy, monetary" shift...it is a much simpler vies of a very complicated situation...a small part, that makes sense to me.
Stockrich.
By: rosencrantz2010 24 Aug 2008, 09:21 AM EDT Msg. 755625 of 755654 (This msg. is a reply to 755606 by stockrich0.) Jump to msg. # stockrich,
okay. that sounds good and makes some sense (from what little i know), but then how does tyler help fix things? what are they really doing and what can they really do? and isn't it possible that this fiasco could drag on for years? i mean, really, if the bad guys don't want to pay and haven't paid, then how do we get them to the table now if we were unable to do so before now? what's our leverage?
it seems to me that returning to the market and revealing our true value as a company is the only way we can crush the baaaastards. let them try and cover the naked short after it's revealed that our stock is worth a penny or a dime or a dollar!
i would announce a return to trading, say November 15. then i would start revealing our plans for developing the FALC. and i would start lining up some big money interests that would be interested in buying our stock as soon as it begins trading. LOL now that would be sweet! by the time we return to trading the opening bid would be a dime and would be rising fast. that would put shorty right where he belongs.
other than that, i don't see how we are going to get them to pay up if they haven't paid up by now.
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:11:30 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 24 Aug 2008, 08:04 AM EDT Msg. 755572 of 755654 (This msg. is a reply to 755500 by factanonverba13.) Jump to msg. # factanonverba, the FALC claims map from Oct. 2003 is the most interesting in that you see SHORE GOLD was clearly a junior player in the FALC back then.
wait, i'll get the map off the wall and look at it again so i can refresh my memory,,,
yeah, the 2003 map is interesting.
what you see back in 2003 is Casavant Mining had gobbled up most of the big blocks of claims all over the FALC.
and the joint venture of Casavant Mining / Cons Pine Channel / United Carina / Shane Resources claims were marked in red and they dotted the landscape around the de beers claims in the middle. this was labelled, PROJECT SURROUND, in bold on the map. so clearly those four companies were in bed together back in 2003.
Shane Resources' claims which were fairly substantial in the lower south of the FALC, just below de beers' holdings.
like i said, Casavant Mining clearly held the most claims, by far. but the second largest claims holder in Oct 2003 was the JV of United Carina / Cons Pine Channel.
Shore had a few decent sized blocks of claims partly surrounding the de beers claims in the center of the map, but not all that much.
the real land barrons of the FALC were Casavant Mining (#1 by far), and then the joint ventures involving United Carina, Cons Pine and Shane (#2). Shore was a distant third in holdings compared to the first two.
so, the question becomes, what happened? how did SHORE GOLD end up controlling the FALC claims today? look at a late 2008 map and you'll see SHORE controlling all of the claims Casavant Mining controlled back in late 2003/2004. how? why? what happened?
something funny is going on in the FALC.
the idea of the formation of a conglomerate in the FALC does make sense and would help explain the pattern of ownership we see in the claims maps from 2003 to the present.
sure, you can argue that urban was stupid and lost all of those claims. and you can argue that the people running SHORE are real smart and pulled a fast one on all of the other companies in the FALC, but both of those arguments have holes in them.
what makes the most sense is that a deal was struck back in 2003 and 2004 involving most or all of the players in the FALC. and if i were to guess i'd say the small Canadian companies were all afraid of the big bad wolf (i.e., de beers) and didn't want to get eaten one by one so they ganged up on the wolf and killed it. and what we are seeing in the FALC today is the outcome of the pack they all signed four years ago.
By: rosencrantz2010 24 Aug 2008, 09:03 AM EDT Msg. 755613 of 755654 (This msg. is a reply to 755572 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # and to add to that FALC claims map argument,,,
add in my69z's second to last MP3 where he talks about DiamondWorks and the Steinmetz people from Israel.
steinmetz is a very heavy hitter. very!!
to put steinmetz into perspective, he is de beers largest or second largest purchaser of diamonds.
and steinmetz and his associates are looking for a source of diamonds that aren't tied to African blood diamonds, which steinmetz and associates were involved in for years/decades.
and then all of a sudden steinmetz/diamondworks shows up in Entourage's most recent documents,,, plus steinmetz's associates make the equipment that processes kimberlite rock and who should do a deal for this equipment? shore gold. (steinmetz now owns 9% of Shore!)
in other words, it's possible that some of the big money that's going to buy into the FALC is the steinmetz group. these guys buy and sell more rough cut diamonds than just about anyone else in the world. and if the FALC ends up being the largest source of conflict free diamonds in the world then it's not hard to imagine that steinmetz and associates want to make sure they get a piece of that pie so they can be assured of a large and steady supply of conflict free diamonds for decades to come.
so, regardless of what you think about urban or cmkx, what we are likely to see come out of the FALC is a huge diamond mining company that ends up being a joint venture involving Steinmetz, Cameco, Newmont, Shore Gold, Shane Resources, United, Star, ForestGate and Entourage.
it's up to you if you want to add cmkx or urban into that group. but when you look back at the old claim maps it's hard to imagine urban letting it all slip away for a few tens of millions when you have such heavy hitters already involved in the FALC back in 2003. it wouldn't take a genius to figure out back then that the FALC land was going to be worth tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions, which it sure looks like now. (who knows, maybe trillions!) and remember, as those 2003 and 2004 claims maps show, urban controlled the lion share of the FALC by himself (Casavant Mining) and controlled most of the rest of it in the form of joint ventures with Shane, Star and United. In other words, in one form or another urban had it all outside the center piece that was controlled early on by de beers and cameco and kensington.
if it were you,,, would you pissss away all that much money and that much glory? i know i wouldn't.
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:12:42 GMT -5
By: meng_rong_bing 24 Aug 2008, 08:44 AM EDT Msg. 755596 of 755654 Jump to msg. # rosen,
meng have qweshon for u. if shane/shore/uuc/suv/etgmf all tied at hipson, then once distributions of etgmf are made that be good no?
By: rosencrantz2010 24 Aug 2008, 09:11 AM EDT Msg. 755619 of 755654 (This msg. is a reply to 755596 by meng_rong_bing.) Jump to msg. # meng, i don't know. in fact, i'm not even sure if we'll ever see entourage. i guess it will be good if we get those shares, but it will have to be very good if that is our only payoff.
frankly, i haven't been thinking too much about Entourage since for now i've been focusing on old stuff like the claims map.
and i'm hoping this all gets going pretty soon, like this month or next. it's taking donkey years to get this going. lol
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:13:12 GMT -5
By: stockrich0 24 Aug 2008, 09:14 AM EDT Msg. 755621 of 755654 Jump to msg. # Yeah...
It makes sense why Tyler always says there's no money. It can't seem like there taking revenge on those that didn't play ball. If the "wrap up" created a pile of money, it has nothing to do with Tyler, the course they're taking is legal and prudent, and has been validated by the SEC...and coincidentily, the number of unregistered shares just happens to the number of CIM shares, minus the bonafide shares, minus the cancelled shares.
"Oh, how'd that happen!"
Stockrich.
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:14:05 GMT -5
By: meng_rong_bing 24 Aug 2008, 09:17 AM EDT Msg. 755623 of 755654 (This msg. is a reply to 755619 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen, meng has theory that old cmkm wrapped up, and bona fides have all certs. we gets etgmf shares, say 1000 for each bona fide (notice 40k shareholders x 1000 = close to 45m etgmf?) and then tyler go after 622 unregisturdson wit forensics team. also bona fide get "OTHER ASSETS" that mention 9 times in PR's....meng think other assets will be distributed base on cmkx holding, and 1000 share across board will move bona fide thru tunnel to conglomeration with shane/shore/suv/suv and more!
meng very happy
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:16:03 GMT -5
By: meng_rong_bing 24 Aug 2008, 09:27 AM EDT Msg. 755629 of 755654 (This msg. is a reply to 755626 by shuklap1.) Jump to msg. # shuk, tyler take long time, but no worry ban fide move on clean and clear. remember urban and family no participation for reason. meng happy to watch sei/suv/uuc right now.
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:16:41 GMT -5
By: meng_rong_bing 24 Aug 2008, 09:33 AM EDT Msg. 755633 of 755654 Jump to msg. # stock, meng has one more replies to u...
the energy/monetary shifts....is real
watch, think big and smiles
meng
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:17:10 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 24 Aug 2008, 09:38 AM EDT Msg. 755634 of 755654 (This msg. is a reply to 755623 by meng_rong_bing.) Jump to msg. # meng, thanks for theory. keeping fingers and toes crossed you're right.
1,000 shares of Entourage is a nice touch for all.
and i'm guessing there will be a revokable right offer as well allowing people to buy into the new formation at a discount.
very good.
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:18:53 GMT -5
By: stockrich0 24 Aug 2008, 08:10 AM EDT Msg. 755573 of 755650 Jump to msg. # Meng, I have a theory... ...it's really quite simple. I had an epiphany last week, and since then the boards haven't interested me much, be cause I see something that makes everything else look like bs. Maybe it's wrong, but it's given me a break. Stockrich. By: meng_rong_bing 24 Aug 2008, 08:19 AM EDT Msg. 755577 of 755651 (This msg. is a reply to 755573 by stockrich0.) Jump to msg. # stockman of wealth, wat u see, meng have small eyes, he look hard but not see u explain please ;-) By: stockrich0 24 Aug 2008, 08:53 AM EDT Msg. 755606 of 755650 (This msg. is a reply to 755577 by meng_rong_bing.) Jump to msg. # Okay, here it is... Before our so-called "trust" was funded, 'our team' had to present a scenario of holy-hell to the bad guys...basically saying, "This is what will happen if you don't pay." Obviously, it was pretty convincing, because many paid...but it wasn't convincing enough, because many didn't. So... In respect to those who paid, and in keeping the promise to release "holy-hell" on those who didn't; CMKX-Tyler was created. Bonafide shareholders often say, "Why can't we get paid if the money was collected?" Well, this particular plan my have been two-fold, Plan #1, Give bad-guys opportunity to pay, Plan #2, Crush those who didn't. There are many reputations on the line here, if these guys don't follow through and finish what the started...which means, own-up to the threats they made, they'll never be taken seriously again. Simply put, the bonafides are the ones who paid, and Tyler are the ones who didn't. Here's something else... The DTCC handed out the CIM dividend which basically gives independent documentation to over 1.5 trillion shares. When the SEC got involved by declaring 622 billion unregistered shares for Tyler...I believe they were literally coming to our rescue and validating our claim. The reason why there's no mention of the 1.5 trillion is because those shares have been 'paid for' or cancelled. The 622 have been indentified and validated...the SEC didn't have to do that, they could have said nothing. (they also could have been helping themselves as well). Anyway, this doesn't involve the "energy, monetary" shift...it is a much simpler vies of a very complicated situation...a small part, that makes sense to me. Stockrich. By: rosencrantz2010 24 Aug 2008, 09:21 AM EDT Msg. 755625 of 755654 (This msg. is a reply to 755606 by stockrich0.) Jump to msg. # stockrich, okay. that sounds good and makes some sense (from what little i know), but then how does tyler help fix things? what are they really doing and what can they really do? and isn't it possible that this fiasco could drag on for years? i mean, really, if the bad guys don't want to pay and haven't paid, then how do we get them to the table now if we were unable to do so before now? what's our leverage? it seems to me that returning to the market and revealing our true value as a company is the only way we can crush the baaaastards. let them try and cover the naked short after it's revealed that our stock is worth a penny or a dime or a dollar! i would announce a return to trading, say November 15. then i would start revealing our plans for developing the FALC. and i would start lining up some big money interests that would be interested in buying our stock as soon as it begins trading. LOL now that would be sweet! by the time we return to trading the opening bid would be a dime and would be rising fast. that would put shorty right where he belongs. other than that, i don't see how we are going to get them to pay up if they haven't paid up by now. By: stockrich0 24 Aug 2008, 09:39 AM EDT Msg. 755636 of 755655 (This msg. is a reply to 755625 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosen, that's what's goin' on... There's no greater legal punishment to the "bad-guys" than for CMKX-Tyler to return to trading and force coverage in open market. The more legitimate Tyler becomes, the more likely it is to happen, and then, when those who didn't cover before (see the writing on the walls) and want to make a deal out of the maket...that price will be considerably hight, and it will feel like "holy-hell". "Oh, why didn't we pay when we had the chance?" That alliance with the SEC is frightening to the bad guys, it means, if we need to get back in, they'll let us in. ..all we need is the threat, we don't in (unless they [the bad guys] make us do it). Stockrich. By: rosencrantz2010 24 Aug 2008, 09:48 AM EDT Msg. 755640 of 755657 (This msg. is a reply to 755636 by stockrich0.) Jump to msg. # stockrich, okay, but what assets would the tyler cmkx use to threaten shorty with? would it have any claims? it needs something of real value to make people want to buy the stock if it were to come back on the market. what will its leverage be? what are tyler's assets other than the cash it gets from edwards and urban and the others? TOGI ain't going to do it. lol tyler's cmkx will need some real assets.
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:20:59 GMT -5
By: meng_rong_bing 24 Aug 2008, 09:51 AM EDT Msg. 755642 of 755657 (This msg. is a reply to 755640 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # tyler sit on big asset, 622 billion transparency shares. forensics team is very excited
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:23:18 GMT -5
By: pussim 23 Aug 2008, 12:20 AM EDT Msg. 755129 of 755658 (This msg. is a reply to 754926 by nufced.) Jump to msg. # Nufced... we're dealing with functional morons...there is no point even attempting a logical discussion with these people... They will convince themselves of whatever they want to believe instead of accepting facts, truths and common sense... It makes me sick to know that although I am a shareholder...there are people who are also shareholders that have the mentality of a piece of sheep sht. By: aladin99 23 Aug 2008, 10:11 AM EDT Msg. 755215 of 755658 (This msg. is a reply to 755129 by pussim.) Jump to msg. # bad pus....On this sega, we have the same dream to start with and you failed to understand now if you are a shareholder still....Your dream about CMKX is now different than before and why? By: pussim 24 Aug 2008, 02:11 AM EDT Msg. 755558 of 755658 (This msg. is a reply to 755215 by aladin99.) Jump to msg. # Why Aladin.. simply put..I rely on factual information..provide me some valid proof for your pipedreams... Ultimately it would be nice to end up in the same place...what we disagree about is if we'll ever get there..and who is in charge now..I rely on legal documents and word from the company...what are you relying on? By: aladin99 24 Aug 2008, 09:52 AM EDT Msg. 755643 of 755658 (This msg. is a reply to 755558 by pussim.) Jump to msg. # Puss...BF mentioned oil...NSS... K.W said we will get ROI....K.W said NSS...we have 622B US....what documents are bad for CMKXers? ? We are the victims of fraud.......I bought CMKX for 2 reasons.... 1> NSS 2> goods... How about U? ??
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:25:33 GMT -5
Is this about some of us too?? By: kilroy.killbasher 24 Aug 2008, 10:01 AM EDT Msg. 755648 of 755660 (This msg. is a reply to 755638 by jonas-dclxxvi.) Jump to msg. # Jonas, no, the real question for you is why the hell do you care SOOOOO d*mn MUCH? CMKX totally dominates your life and has for 5 years. CMKX has your life by the balls and it's totally in control of every breathing moment of your life. It has turned you into a parroting robot with no life outside of this message board. It may have been a scam, but there's no denying the power of CMKX, as evidenced by the control it has over YOU! There are active scams out there, but, no, you just can't give anything in your life priority over CMKX. You are the CMKX poster boy. How does it feel to be totally dominated by something you hate? Enjoy! LOL! \\|// ( o o ) ~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~ KILROY WAS HERE
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:27:09 GMT -5
By: meng_rong_bing 24 Aug 2008, 09:54 AM EDT Msg. 755645 of 755661 (This msg. is a reply to 755644 by jonas-dclxxvi.) Jump to msg. # jonas, y general cox make mergency ban for banks if fake?
By: kilroy.killbasher 24 Aug 2008, 10:08 AM EDT Msg. 755651 of 755661 (This msg. is a reply to 755645 by meng_rong_bing.) Jump to msg. # Meng, it wasn't really an emergency ban. It was more like an emergency trial period during which 54-year-old laws were temporarily enforced, but only for 19 certain Wall Street firms. And, it seems, that stopgap action and explanation only raised a few eyebrows. Simply astonishing.
\\|// ( o o ) ~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~ KILROY WAS HERE
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:54:50 GMT -5
seagull Administrator Gossip Queen of CMKX gossip 8/24/08 « Thread Started Today at 5:59am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tuscansun September Morn « Thread Started Yesterday at 9:15pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gotta luv that song ~tuscan ------------- like Monday, Sept.1 ? ~seagull ---------- Holiday, seagull..... October is money time, imo... Sept is our time... They need the world to have a infusion of money, wouldnt you say, just about October when the memory of Joe Public is sharp and clear,.. with a little talk from whoever is going to take the 'credit' for all of this global demise FIX! ~tuscan tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5939
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Post by soonerlew on Aug 24, 2008 9:55:57 GMT -5
seagull Administrator Gossip Queen of CMKX Re: gossip 8/24/08 « Reply #1 Today at 6:10am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- funado This is in reference to halgal's message, which someone was kind enough to post in the buzz section for 8/21. I fully agree with her about how Robert Maheu would not likely tell Mark Faulk the truth about just how and why he was involved in all of this. I think it's pretty much accepted by all that a sting took place, and it would've been very much out of character, to say the least, for IBM to explain everything to MF before the end result even arrived. Actually, I'm not even sure why he would consent to the interview in the first place, but I guess he must have had his reasons. One other thing, though, that strikes me as funny is that, as IBM says in the interview (which you can read at www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Investing101/1083.html), he's the one who brought Don Stoecklein into the CMKX case. With that in mind, if IBM truly did decide that the CMKM management, old or new, was as bad as MF's interview makes it sound, don't you suppose he might suggest to Don Stoecklein that he go ahead and distribute the Entourage shares? IBM expressed that he was on the side of the shareholders many times. Even in the interview, his concern for the shareholders comes up clearly. Does it seem likely that, at some point, IBM just decided to cut the shareholders off to drift? I'd say that if he had any real concerns about Urban and the rest of the situation, he would've cut Urban off and done what he could to help the shareholders. He never did say anything bad about Urban, not that I ever heard, even in this interview -- other than calling Urban possibly naive. He nonetheless says Urban shot from the hip, and, in IBM's opinion, had the shareholders' interests at heart. MF's interview tries to make it sound like IBM decided the CMKM management was bad, and so he just bid the shareholders farewell. Does that sound right? And does it sound right that, to this date, Don Stoecklein is doing nothing to put the Entourage shares and other assets into the hands of the shareholders? I mean, isn't there something wrong with this picture as painted by MF? AIMHO, Funado tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5939
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