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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:10:00 GMT -5
By: jfarn 01 Nov 2008, 12:51 PM EDT Msg. 775970 of 775984 (This msg. is a reply to 775962 by elo54.) Jump to msg. #
Elo, team Tyler and you for that matter morphed into embarrassing individuals. Bill put his tail b/w his legs, pulled down all of his OG information, and did a Texas two-step backpedal. I am tired of hearing how Bill or Leslie and Molly and rest are going to go after the big boys. Anyone with half a brain can see that Bill was either bought off or told to stand down. Anyone with a half a brain can see that the SEC is standing down as well. Put your pom-poms down and go shopping with your wife.
By: elo54 01 Nov 2008, 01:06 PM EDT Msg. 775976 of 775984 (This msg. is a reply to 775970 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. #
JF-Sorry you feel so sore about this but have you, with your big time political contacts or anyone else for that matter done any better. A big ZERO from what I can see. Anyone with any intelligence can see that Tyler is at least achieving some results. So calm down and keeping talking to the politicians after all its election time,they'll tell you anyone to get elected lol!!! GOT TO GO!!!!!!!!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:10:38 GMT -5
By: gotoil1870 01 Nov 2008, 02:24 PM EDT Msg. 775983 of 775984 Jump to msg. # shareholders please take 5 minutes out of your time and file a complaint on sec,tyler,your broker and anyone you feel has robbed us.. www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/fraudnet.cgi
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:11:27 GMT -5
By: jlecks 30 Oct 2008, 09:23 PM EDT Msg. 775588 of 775642 Jump to msg. # By: rosencrantz2010 01 Nov 2008, 12:29 PM EDT Msg. 775967 of 775969 (This msg. is a reply to 775588 by jlecks.) Jump to msg. # jlecks, a few things about your analysis. (great analysis by the way.) two items come to mind while reading it. 1. didn't urban lose the carolyn? that is, wasn't the carolyn taken over by that small time pink sheet out of indiana and then he tried to sell the claims on e-bay? it's been so long since that happened, but i seem to remember ownership to the carolyn became muddled. if that's right then that wouldn't fit in with your thinking. that is, if it's valuable then why risk losing it? 2. about the ash fall. in the summer of 2004 i remember melvin saying that the top 10 feet of the dig would be worth billions. he didn't say exactly what he was referring to but i remember thinking it was odd he would say that since everyone knew at the time that they needed to dig down 100-300 meters before hitting kimberlite. well, this ash fall explanation of yours suggests that they might be able to process the very top of the area with backhoes and it might contain diamonds! there were more than one or two people talking about being able to find diamonds in top soil back in 2004. it never made any sense to me given how far down kimberlite pipes tend to be but your suggestion about ash fall might just be the explanation for diamonds at or near the surface. 3. also, i do remember some talk years ago about non-magnetic kimberlites and that urban's discovery involved non-magnetic kimberlites which were much larger than the normal pipe. so, who knows, maybe that's what he stumbled across? i do know de beers carefully explored the carolyn many years before urban. de beers did a lot of drilling there and came away thinking the carolyn was worthless. but maybe de beers didn't look for non-magnetic kimberlite? maybe they gave up based on bad assumptions and urban lucked out once de beers let the claims lapse? but de beers is good and they were/are the pros and it's hard to imagine they could have made such a mistake. so, the burden of proof lies with urban, not de beers. de beers has proven they are the professionals. urban hasn't. so, nothing has been proven in our favor,,,, yet. By: jlecks 01 Nov 2008, 02:42 PM EDT Msg. 775985 of 775985 (This msg. is a reply to 775967 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosen, Thanks for the follow-up reply and information. Yes, I agree with you regarding Debeers/Carolyn, this is what makes Newson's statement so important, IMO -- "Some of the kimberlite was not very magnetic, and the magnetic response may be caused largely by the particular phase of kimberlite. This indicates that the area of the kimberlite body could be larger than the area of the magnetic anomaly." If Debeers (and others) only drilled in the area in which they received a magnetic signal and Urban drilled in the nonmagnetic sector, this is why they may have found something when nobody else did. It's so very interesting that Newson made that statement regarding the Carolyn. He wouldn't have brought it up unless it was worth mentioning and I am sure he is quite familiar with all the past holes that were drilled in that pipe. The Carolyn lapsed according to the Saskatchewan E/R web-site assessment file. I don't know who has the claim now; I'll try and look that up this evening if I get some extra time. I know Melvin was going on about Mt. St. Helen's for some time and maybe that was what he was referring to all the ash that was spewed out when it erupted? LOL! Who knows. I do recall some rumors about being able to mine our diamonds on the surface, like you say. Maybe this is what they were talking about. I hope you're right and we are still connected to this pipe. All I know is that those two other samples should have been tested. If there was any potential with that pipe, those samples would have helped prove it - one way or the other. I just can't imagine Urban not spending his time/money on sampling those two cores when the potential could have been potentially much, much greater than the current idea that $250 million was made off of dumping unregistered shares (of which he only got a portion of); and then to forever live his life, looking over his shoulder, for 40,000 pissed-off people on his tail; the guilt, the shame to his name and family, and the possible outcome of going to prison. It just doesn't make any sense to me and I'm really beginning to find it hard to believe. But that's just MO. Have a great Saturday.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:11:38 GMT -5
By: jonas-dccxv 01 Nov 2008, 03:14 PM EDT Msg. 775990 of 776034 (This msg. is a reply to 775976 by elo54.) Jump to msg. #
ELO54- Huge challenge, name just ONE thing positive, that Tyler has done for shareholders. Go ahead and take your time on this and explain in detail just one f-king thing that Tyler has done to help the dopes that bought the biggest scam known to mankind.
You can't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:12:57 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Nov 2008, 04:07 PM EDT Msg. 776008 of 776036 (This msg. is a reply to 775985 by jlecks.) Jump to msg. # jlecks, here is the answer to owns the carolyn and what the test results are from the other core samples. what do you think? SASKATOON, SASKATCHEWAN--(Marketwire - Jan. 22, 2008) - United Uranium Corp. (TSX VENTURE:UUC - News) and Star Uranium Corp. (TSX VENTURE:SUV - News) are pleased to announce sample results of drill core from the "Carolyn" Kimberlite pipe in the Fort a la Corne area. This drilling took place in 2004 and consisted of 5 holes of which 4 encountered kimberlite. In the companies news release of June 15, 2004 sample results were reported for holes C1 and C2. Because of costs, management indicated that holes C4 and C5 would be tested at a later date. Holes C4 and C5 were subsequently sampled and analyses were received in June 2006. Due to an oversight by management at that time, the details of these results were not disclosed. The current management has become aware of this oversight, and is releasing the results of the sampling of holes C4 and C5. Analysis of approximately 210.0 kg of split NQ core from holes C4 and C5 yielded 6 diamonds. The other half of the split core has been retained in a secure building. Analysis was by total dissolution using caustic fusion, carried out by the Saskatchewan Research Council, which is certified under ISO 17025. Sample A, representing core from 194.4 m to 207.9 m depth in hole C4, and having a mass of 27.8 kg, yielded 1 diamond retained on the 150 micron screen, 2 diamonds on the 106 micron screen, and 1 diamond on the 75 micron screen. Sample A was a light grey coloured, fine-grained calcitic kimberlite. Sample D, representing the interval from 169.4 m to 193.8 m in hole C5, and having a mass of 47.25 kg, yielded 1 diamond on the 212 micron screen. Sample E, representing the interval from 147.7 m to 169.4 m in the same hole, and with a mass of 43.1 kg, yielded 1 diamond on the 106 micron screen. Samples D and E were both fine- to medium-grained lappilli tuffs, with sample E having more of the medium-grained sized lapilli. Hole C5 is about 47 m north of hole C4. Hole C4 is about 34 m west of hole C1, and hole C5 is about 29 m west of hole C2, both previously reported in the press release of June 15, 2004. A total sample weight of approximately 386 kg from holes C1 and C2 returned 2 diamonds on the 106 micron screen. Hole C3, drilled about 48 m east of hole C1, failed to intersect the Carolyn kimberlite. Present ownership of the property is a 50/50 joint venture between Star Uranium Corp. (TSX VENTURE:SUV - News) and United Uranium Corp. (TSX VENTURE:UUC - News). The companies are currently assessing exploration results to date. N. Ralph Newson, P.Eng., P.Geo. and Qualified Person, has read and approved the technical content of this release. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD Eric Wray, President biz.yahoo.com/ccn/080122/200801220437865001.html?.v=1 By: jlecks 01 Nov 2008, 05:18 PM EDT Msg. 776016 of 776036 (This msg. is a reply to 776008 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosen, Thanks for that! LOL! That would have saved me some typing! These were split core (where one half is sampled and the other half is stored in case they need to replicate the sampling if they go to sell the claim), so the other half was what they stored in the secure building. The samples noted are deep. I don't know if they sampled the full cores or just parts of them. Either they did and there was nothing there, or they didn't feel it was necessary. I will try and get the report to see what it says. My gut says they sampled all that was worthwhile. The diamonds were better than C#1 & #2 and they had evidence of volcanic ash on them - that's the lapilli tuffs they referred to. These two samples would have provided a better vehicle for a P/D. LOL! Are we associated with United or Star via rumor or whatever? They speak of "management" in a way that its past and present tense could be the same... Who knows any more... We were already revoked after June 2006 so I can't see much reason in them testing the core samples at that time (regarding value for shareholders). So why even test them, unless Urban wanted to see if anything was there before he let them lapse? That would make the most sense, really. Since we were revoked that would explain why they never PRd the results but I don't understand why they would state, "Due to an oversight by management at that time, the details of these results were not disclosed." Maybe it's just semantics. Honestly, unless we are associated with Star or United, this doesn't look too promising; and even if we are these samples didn't show much promise! Hopefully Table I had the goods. Thanks, again, for sharing that.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:13:43 GMT -5
By: jfarn 01 Nov 2008, 12:51 PM EDT Msg. 775970 of 775984 (This msg. is a reply to 775962 by elo54.) Jump to msg. # Elo, team Tyler and you for that matter morphed into embarrassing individuals. Bill put his tail b/w his legs, pulled down all of his OG information, and did a Texas two-step backpedal. I am tired of hearing how Bill or Leslie and Molly and rest are going to go after the big boys. Anyone with half a brain can see that Bill was either bought off or told to stand down. Anyone with a half a brain can see that the SEC is standing down as well. Put your pom-poms down and go shopping with your wife. By: elo54 01 Nov 2008, 01:06 PM EDT Msg. 775976 of 775984 (This msg. is a reply to 775970 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. # JF-Sorry you feel so sore about this but have you, with your big time political contacts or anyone else for that matter done any better. A big ZERO from what I can see. Anyone with any intelligence can see that Tyler is at least achieving some results. So calm down and keeping talking to the politicians after all its election time,they'll tell you anyone to get elected lol!!! GOT TO GO!!!!!!!! By: jfarn 01 Nov 2008, 07:49 PM EDT Msg. 776083 of 776103 (This msg. is a reply to 775976 by elo54.) Jump to msg. # ELO 54.... I am not sore. I simply call a spade a spade; and you my friend are an attention starved clown. You would never be welcome in my trench. You are not cut from the same cloth as me and the people I choose to call friends. You and Tyler have become a caricature of sorts. It is clear to many a long what you all have become. JF~ By: jfarn 01 Nov 2008, 07:57 PM EDT Msg. 776086 of 776103 (This msg. is a reply to 776083 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. # Elo: Bill is an embarrassment. He is nothing more than a bought off whorre. In lieu of fighting the good fight, he folded his tent, ghosted years of work, and put on a skirt and pretended the short never existed. Relay the message. jf~
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:15:22 GMT -5
By: elo54 01 Nov 2008, 09:14 PM EDT Msg. 776119 of 776174 (This msg. is a reply to 776107 by darlingdaphne.) Jump to msg. #
Last time Urban met Kevin in Vegas he got Kevin to cash a check and then proceeded to take it all.Kevin had to plead with him to pay for his hotel room.Yeah a real PAL our Urban!!!!Left us with $500. So until you start contributing to paying Kevin's salary then I suggest you keep quiet until this all unfolds.You will be very angry when the DOJ present their case imo and your anger will not be for Kevin or Bill,yeah you guessed right,ITS OUR PAL,a real patriot if ever there was one lol!!! ELO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:27:05 GMT -5
By: darlingdaphne 01 Nov 2008, 09:02 PM EDT Msg. 776107 of 776255 (This msg. is a reply to 776096 by elo54.) Jump to msg. #
BTW elo54 when I see Kevins or Frizzel or Faulk signature on the certs then I will believe in Tyler
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:30:11 GMT -5
By: elo54 01 Nov 2008, 09:14 PM EDT Msg. 776119 of 776174 (This msg. is a reply to 776107 by darlingdaphne.) Jump to msg. # Last time Urban met Kevin in Vegas he got Kevin to cash a check and then proceeded to take it all.Kevin had to plead with him to pay for his hotel room.Yeah a real PAL our Urban!!!!Left us with $500 So until you start contributing to paying Kevin's salary then I suggest you keep quiet until this all unfolds.You will be very angry when the DOJ present their case imo and your anger will not be for Kevin or Bill,yeah you guessed right,ITS OUR PAL,a real patriot if ever there was one lol!!! ELO Where is Elo getting his information?? Could it be from Faulk's fiction?? "The Naked Truth"? <sigh> Single
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:32:09 GMT -5
By: elo54 01 Nov 2008, 09:24 PM EDT Msg. 776133 of 776255 Jump to msg. #
STOP THE PRESSES acca was told for sure we are being paid before Thanksgiving. Trouble is, acca was too dumb,high or drunk to ask what year.I have an idea what year but I dont think you are ready for the TRUTH yet. Maybe next year I'll let you in on it. Heres a clue 09/09--------09/14 ELO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:36:47 GMT -5
By: jfarn 01 Nov 2008, 12:51 PM EDT Msg. 775970 of 775984 (This msg. is a reply to 775962 by elo54.) Jump to msg. # Elo, team Tyler and you for that matter morphed into embarrassing individuals. Bill put his tail b/w his legs, pulled down all of his OG information, and did a Texas two-step backpedal. I am tired of hearing how Bill or Leslie and Molly and rest are going to go after the big boys. Anyone with half a brain can see that Bill was either bought off or told to stand down. Anyone with a half a brain can see that the SEC is standing down as well. Put your pom-poms down and go shopping with your wife. By: elo54 01 Nov 2008, 01:06 PM EDT Msg. 775976 of 775984 (This msg. is a reply to 775970 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. # JF-Sorry you feel so sore about this but have you, with your big time political contacts or anyone else for that matter done any better. A big ZERO from what I can see. Anyone with any intelligence can see that Tyler is at least achieving some results. So calm down and keeping talking to the politicians after all its election time,they'll tell you anyone to get elected lol!!! GOT TO GO!!!!!!!! By: jfarn 01 Nov 2008, 07:49 PM EDT Msg. 776083 of 776103 (This msg. is a reply to 775976 by elo54.) Jump to msg. # ELO 54.... I am not sore. I simply call a spade a spade; and you my friend are an attention starved clown. You would never be welcome in my trench. You are not cut from the same cloth as me and the people I choose to call friends. You and Tyler have become a caricature of sorts. It is clear to many a long what you all have become. JF~ By: jfarn 01 Nov 2008, 07:57 PM EDT Msg. 776086 of 776103 (This msg. is a reply to 776083 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. # Elo: Bill is an embarrassment. He is nothing more than a bought off whorre. In lieu of fighting the good fight, he folded his tent, ghosted years of work, and put on a skirt and pretended the short never existed. Relay the message. jf~ By: bluetripp 02 Nov 2008, 01:46 AM EST Msg. 776176 of 776256 (This msg. is a reply to 776083 by jfarn.) Jump to msg. # jfarn - Touché!!! Those that are self-entranced are the last to recognize that possibly they're suffering from abandonment issues. I turned the volume off on this gentleman years ago when I saw that in my opinion he had nothing worthwhile to contribute to our cause. He has for years portrayed himself as having an inside contact but suddenly she disappeared from the scene. Thank you for calling him out and also thank you for the huge amount of effort that you have put into this debacle.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:42:31 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 02 Nov 2008, 01:57 AM EST Msg. 776177 of 776258 Jump to msg. # ELO THIS POST IS FOR YOU BUDDY and it shows your are full of chit: read very carefully, there is some amazing info in here mark tell us that shows the ending is bullchit, especially given the date it was written right as they pretended to know nothing until 2007 at the ridiculous boxes, but check this out from 2006 that is full of useful information: To read Article.... www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Commentary/1065.html or ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=776177By: gusjarvis 02 Nov 2008, 02:01 AM EST Msg. 776178 of 776259 (This msg. is a reply to 776177 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # hey elo why don't you talk or mark talk of this or maybe you are mark? Rumyantsev also questioned the NASD’s action against their company, saying that “we were singled out, why were we the only one charged when hundreds of billions of shares were sold by other brokers?” and how on earth elo did all these people get their certs, magic, everyone from ameritrade and etrade have their certs now, some how, but of course there is no money right: Another source close to the story echoed Rumyantsev’s sentiments, citing the serious problems with other major brokerage firms, including Ameritrade and Etrade, and the long and drawn out process of trying to issue stock certificates to bonafide shareholders, many of whom have still not received stock certificates over a year after the company initiated a cert pull in an attempt to determine if there were more shares sold than actually existed. By: gusjarvis 02 Nov 2008, 02:07 AM EST Msg. 776179 of 776259 (This msg. is a reply to 776177 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # and elo the sting, no kidding hey not to mention the gov't informants including the tranfer agent but it was a major sting operation by the fbi who had a taskforce in our stock and who had our silver state bank info since sept 2004 as did bill, but mark and og pretend to know nothing until the ridiculous boxes but here is the silver state bank info in sept 2006 and the sting operation talked about: regarding over 500 transactions, involving over 250 billion shares of sub-penny stock issued by CMKM Diamonds Inc. (‘CMKX’) totaling over $53 million. In the 28-page complaint, the NASD also charged NevWest with failing to “adequately perform due diligence, file SARs, or cease effecting wire transfers involving $43 million through 139 separate wires from at least 28 of the accounts JE had opened at NevWest to various bank accounts.” (cough this is the ssbank info they had since 2004 but pretended to not know at all and never ever talk about) and the sting that is being pr'd right now, so it is still an ongoing sting, no wonder we haven't been paid yet, the sting isn't over elo: there are unconfirmed reports of a major sting operation targeting dozens of others involved in the CMKX scandal. By: gusjarvis 02 Nov 2008, 02:10 AM EST Msg. 776180 of 776260 (This msg. is a reply to 776179 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # and elo the date on this means they had the ssbank info then, it proved then urban was a fraud right, you know the info you had back in early 05. Funny they still did the interplead with urban after this hey, just plain weird man: regarding over 500 transactions, involving over 250 billion shares of sub-penny stock issued by CMKM Diamonds Inc. (‘CMKX’) totaling over $53 million. In the 28-page complaint, the NASD also charged NevWest with failing to “adequately perform due diligence, file SARs, or cease effecting wire transfers involving $43 million through 139 separate wires from at least 28 of the accounts JE had opened at NevWest to various bank accounts.” (cough this is the ssbank info they had since 2004 but pretended to not know at all and never ever talk about
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:47:42 GMT -5
By: jfarn 02 Nov 2008, 05:53 AM EST Msg. 776185 of 776260 Jump to msg. #
Think back a few Christmas's ago when Kevin decided to force the issue with regard to non-communication and/or misleading communication from prior counsel. He was simply upset that WE were being left in the lerch and jerked around. Rumor has it that he had a family member place a call to someone who posted regularly on the message boards and requested that CMKX shareholders begin a campaign to inundate Moran’s office with emails, faxes, and phone calls. The goal was surely to push JT to finish the interpleader by the end of the following month. The end result was that CMKM shareholders basically shut down JT's office. The end result: after four months of no PRs at all, two went out in one day.
I believe that many CMKM shareholders would simply respect and appreciate it if Tyler would provide us with the same level of attention and respect that they once so requested from Moran. We have not been provided what would a reasonable person would expect re: our well documented fail to deliver problem and ALL matters associated with such.
If Bill's NSS work was flawed as Pedro has suggested on this thread time and again then maybe Bill should have the courage to put that out in writing and put an end to the conflicting reports being supported by Pedro and others close to Tyler. It surely appears that we are now getting the "JT" treatment Bill and IMO, there seems to be a level of hypocrisy with what Kevin once expected and how/why he is operating with certain...not ALL...aspects of our mutual interest.
By: jfarn 02 Nov 2008, 06:02 AM EST Msg. 776186 of 776260 Jump to msg. #
SEC attorny Molly White told my ears that she couldn't understand why Kevin would put such a statement in writing. Maybe someone should tell Kevin the Grand Jury was for the criminal side of this..not the SEC's narrow civil case.
RE: Criminal Investigation(s)of UC et. al.
Kevin had in an update:
"Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations."
I would have requested subpoenas for a whole bunch of parties. Kevin and Bill would surely have been contacted. Those gents surely opine as if they would be marvelous cooperating witnesses for the Govt.
I would guarantee that they would have to appear in person and would be requested to provide everything under the sun including the treasure trove they were so excited to receive from Urban's lawyer. Something is big-time off if we are to believe what Kevin put in writing.
What you say about Bill and/or Kevin not being contacted by the SEC or any other investigative authority?
Three quick questions:
Do you think they(SEC or any other investigative agency) simply trusted the fact that Kevin/Bill voluntarily turned over every piece of valuable information that the SEC or any other agency could possibly desire and hence there was no need to subpoena anything further?
Do you think that the DOJ/IRS/FBI/SEC/ state authorities work so slow as to they haven't made their way as of yet to Bill and Kevin? Grand Jury convened in 05?
Do you believe that the relevant federal and/or state governments are turning a blind eye to the fact that tens of thousands of folks were bilked out of a quarter + billion dollars?
These guys have become a joke....
By: jfarn 02 Nov 2008, 06:08 AM EST Msg. 776187 of 776260 Jump to msg. #
Bulldog: please put out in an update that you.."Bill" were way off base with your earlier assertions and that you shut down your practice and dedicated years of your life to being incredibly wrong.
Hiding behind "the audit is still ongoing" and "we hired S. Trimbath" does not suffice for this shareholder with regard to your NSS appeasment.
Bill you put out what you did about the trillion shorted shares. You need to grow some ballls and redact your earlier statements in writing.
What Happened To The NSS?
Quote : Bill Frizzell 7/22/05
"Naked Shorting
We have proven without question that certain parties have sold CMKX when such stock was not available. Our proof indicates to me there are at least a trillion shares outstanding and possibly as much as two or three trillion shares. We are making inroads with some influential politicians to investigate naked shorting and take action to see that this problem is corrected.
I want to continue using the proof we have developed to convince non believers of the extent of naked shorting, not just in this company but in other companies as well. I plan to continue to contact those companies that we know have significant short positions. As more people request their certs, stock positions held by the brokers and short sellers will become more apparent. There may come a time and a company that facts arise which will lend itself to litigation. As I set out in the Phase II agreement, I will contact each of you individually for your consent to proceed with litigation before I file suit. I will do so in your name only with your consent. In this area, I am continuing my efforts to get the company to obtain for us the DTCC sheets to which they are entitled."
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:47:52 GMT -5
By: jfarn 02 Nov 2008, 06:16 AM EST Msg. 776190 of 776261 Jump to msg. #
tell me how Etrade was able to get the number of electronic shares held after the deliver of certificates?
Etrade - 9596 accounts...nearly 107 billion shares noted on NOBO/OBO
Uncle Bill - you identified 1357 accounts...w/ 74.5 billion shares in them
1357 is a mere 14% of the total CMKX accounts
those 14% possessed 70% of Etrade's holdings....
The remaining 32 billion shares held by ET were for the remaining 86% of accounts with CMKM in them?
Refresh my memory, I thought Ameritrade was the only one smart enough toward the end to only allow selling of CMKX?
How did Etrade square things away amigo?
Bill, Please provide reasonable evidence to refute the inconsistencies provided with regard to the statistical analysis of Etrades position in Spring of 05 with the early Spring of 06 considering their actions during said period. Ameritrade might be another story, but even their position on the DTCC's position report was in the 4 billion range and they were smart enough to shut down CMKX buys once the cards were shown.
We have not heard a one iota from you concerning what we are led to believe concerning Etrade's Harry fukking Houdini act in 9 months time all the while they were allowing customers to add to their positions.
Bill speak specifically to what you wrote to Russ Elmer - Etrade CEO in late spring of 05 to how their position worked out in early spring of 06. - - - - -
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 2, 2008 10:51:17 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Nov 2008, 08:24 AM EST Msg. 776200 of 776263 Jump to msg. #
630B shares in certs. 39k shareholders reporting. 21k shareholders still not counted and only 75B shares remaining.
By: jfarn 02 Nov 2008, 08:30 AM EST Msg. 776202 of 776263 (This msg. is a reply to 776200 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. #
Lets not forget that the individuals not accounted for are MIA for good reason.
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Nov 2008, 08:33 AM EST Msg. 776204 of 776263 (This msg. is a reply to 776200 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. #
jfarn, i do remember kevin's statements about how unfair and insensitive it was that shareholders weren't being told what was happening! and he wanted us all to know that he was going to fix things because he was one of us! LOL
that was when he was on the outside looking in and knew exactly how it felt to be one of the mushrooms being kept in the dark while being fed manure.
now kevin's on the inside and feeling fat and happy. nothing to fret about or worry his little head over since he's been told what he didn't know two years ago. now that he's been told he's happy, and, "screww the rest of 'em."
"gee, i wish i could tell you guys but i'm sorry, you'll just have to wait another couple of years and then maybe we'll tell you something,,, maybe."
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