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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:18:13 GMT -5
By: passinthru3 31 Jan 2009, 06:25 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804396 of 804465
Jump to msg. # Klon, do u think Al Hodges will be successful with the confirmation from the dtcc?
By: klonopin2mg 31 Jan 2009, 06:44 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804406 of 804465 (Reply to 804396 by passinthru3)
passinthru'
i'd really like to stay away from answering questions in that regard simply because i know bhollonegg' pretty well.....
i'll just say i trust Hodges to be on our side...in whatever steps he takes....
it really "wasn't" to hard to get confirmation of "$$" at the DTC, but as you can see...whoever leaks anything gets the broom. there's more than one office of the DTC, maybe phaulk should try another branch
sure was a lot of buzz yesterday.....interesting reaction from tyler, both KW & MF....
i was on the phone all day yesterday until about 8:00 p.m. last night all about getting answers. i came away with even more questions, especially concerning some folks in tyler....
they won't want me to UNITE, no need to anyway...i'm all about shareholders (ONLY SHAREHOLDERS) already.
did Kevin start a rumor in that letter about "trillions of dollors"lol
i am CMKX worn out here... take care friend! klon'
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:18:53 GMT -5
By: ncmale28409 31 Jan 2009, 07:18 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804411 of 804467 (Reply to 804362 by aladin99)
Jump to msg. # aladin99, I doubt that. Remember he didn't even own a car when he became the CEO. Maybe a $1,000.00 is what he had in CMKX, if that. This is someone I'd call a thankless bas tard. Got a job paying $10,000.00 a month when he's not qualified to be a cashier at a grocery store. I'm not saying UC is not a crook....I can say UC is a crook with a clear conscience because UC is not paying me even $1.00 a month. I believe UC is a crook, the proof so far points to that, we have not seen the other side of the coin though. The biggest joke is....after all Kevin has BSed us...he wants us to stay together....probably he has wish for us to go after him. His jig is up and watch someone call him on it. These Tyler Tots are more unpredictable than the London weather. JMHO.
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 08:45 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804425 of 804467 (Reply to 804411 by ncmale28409)
Jump to msg. # ncmale - It's weird that when UC took him to Canada to examine the core samples he could not even cover his own meals and UC had to stop by ATM, withdrew money and handed him some CASH...and he even talked about that..LMAO...what a poor K was....What happens to those cores and why we stop asking him about those?If I were him I would feel so bad about 10K/month for accomplishing nothing since 03/2007 when he became a CEO...Questions Remain Unanswered Are: 1> Why KW did/does what he did/does 2> Who are so dumb to continue to pay him and Tyler 3> What if UC did not raise 600B shares then would we all get our certs? 4> Why J.E did what he did? I meant he's richer and smarter than UC but why he took all the risk to sell Unregistered shares and ended up UC made 1 million more than him... 5> According to Mark & Trimbath that significant FTD exists here but no one has raised their complaints about not getting their certs...How this could happen? 6> UC can be the last CROOK but I doubt it for many reasons...
GLTY & All
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:19:26 GMT -5
By: ncmale28409 31 Jan 2009, 07:18 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804411 of 804467 (Reply to 804362 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # aladin99, I doubt that. Remember he didn't even own a car when he became the CEO. Maybe a $1,000.00 is what he had in CMKX, if that. This is someone I'd call a thankless bas tard. Got a job paying $10,000.00 a month when he's not qualified to be a cashier at a grocery store. I'm not saying UC is not a crook....I can say UC is a crook with a clear conscience because UC is not paying me even $1.00 a month. I believe UC is a crook, the proof so far points to that, we have not seen the other side of the coin though. The biggest joke is....after all Kevin has BSed us...he wants us to stay together....probably he has wish for us to go after him. His jig is up and watch someone call him on it. These Tyler Tots are more unpredictable than the London weather. JMHO. By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 08:45 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804425 of 804467 (Reply to 804411 by ncmale28409) Jump to msg. # ncmale - It's weird that when UC took him to Canada to examine the core samples he could not even cover his own meals and UC had to stop by ATM, withdrew money and handed him some CASH...and he even talked about that..LMAO...what a poor K was....What happens to those cores and why we stop asking him about those?If I were him I would feel so bad about 10K/month for accomplishing nothing since 03/2007 when he became a CEO...Questions Remain Unanswered Are: 1> Why KW did/does what he did/does 2> Who are so dumb to continue to pay him and Tyler 3> What if UC did not raise 600B shares then would we all get our certs? 4> Why J.E did what he did? I meant he's richer and smarter than UC but why he took all the risk to sell Unregistered shares and ended up UC made 1 million more than him... 5> According to Mark & Trimbath that significant FTD exists here but no one has raised their complaints about not getting their certs...How this could happen? 6> UC can be the last CROOK but I doubt it for many reasons... GLTY & All By: scruffy_too 31 Jan 2009, 09:17 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804436 of 804470 (Reply to 804425 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # Interesting questions,Aladin... Have we got the correct context though? What IF, the company was indeed "hijacked" by the authorities to perform a "sting", or whatever you want to call it? We all assume that UC had the ability to steer the company the way he wanted it to go, but was that really the case? What if "getting the bad guys" was indeed officially of higher immediate priority than developing the claims and returning a ROI to the investors? What about those drill cores, eh? What gets sent for testing certainly depends upon the motivation to do so, right? Just felt that I might throw this out there, as so many seem fixed on an image of the company and its behavior, that might not be the reality(?)...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:21:01 GMT -5
johnjrambothe2nd Dr. Of Diamonds Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT!
By: vb_al 01 Feb 2009, 04:54 AM EST Rating: post rating 0 Msg. 804506 of 804508 Jump to msg. # A response to Kevin West Letter of January 30, 2009
Kevin, how about lending us your UNBIASED ear? Or should I say, how about giving us an HONEST break and tell the truth – for once.
You have the guts to speak of a “common cause” the entire time, keeping a secreted agenda away from the shareholders, lying to us on repeated occasions, failing to honor your word and engaging in what can at a minimum be considered gross negligence but more likely, world class fraud. Why would I say so?
Where the hell are the lawsuits against the brokers, bankers and market makers for their radical fraud against us? You pretend not to have any money to pursue the claims, but there is $5M sitting there with Helen Bagley’s bond that you have not even lifted a finger towards going after. There is multiple millions of dollars available Wells Fargo Bank for giving Gold Medallion Guarantees to John Edwards on blank certs, already admitted to by WFB employees, which you have knowledge of, but have not lifted a finger to get.
In spite of these available sources of funds which could fund lawsuits against the deep pockets, you and Bill Frizzell have not lifted a single finger to get them, but instead, you are going after low return lawsuits and wasting our time and precious resources, while the deep pockets are all merging into one another, going BK and ultimately, getting away. Did Patrick Byrne sue the worthless targets with Overstock or did he go after the gold? Quit pretending that you are an innocent #### that could not figure out what to do – the continued bullshjt is becoming an ever-angering insult to our intelligence.
For that matter, you have yet to confirm the shareholders even own shares of the Texas Corporation. Note the document you posted on the website this weekend, after years of displaying nothing. The last paragraph said it must be certified by the state of Texas. Where is the certification? Until we see it, we have no idea if we are even a part of CMKX Texas. If we own none of the new company, that further lends open opportunity for fraud upon the shareholders by the few insiders in control.
Further, why have your repeated actions shown to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached by taking the strength out of the term naked short (implying fraud and RICO and punitive damages) and calling it “fails to deliver” (which implies mere book keeping errors and merely recovering one’s investment). No lawyer on earth would let you weaken your case against naked short sellers by reducing the strongest language that would help force a settlement and/or best serve a lawsuit with a jury - UNLESS a settlement has been reached. In a case of fraud, a lawyer would not call the fraud a “simple misunderstanding” now would he? Patrick Byrne has not settled and what does he still call the fraud perpetrated against his company? You got it – naked shorting.
It is clear that you have signed some sort of settlement agreement in which you promised not to sue the bankers and brokers and MM’s and you would ease off the language exposing them as crooks. That is why you have done NOTHING to go after them when the opportunity has presented itself on multiple occasions.
I also take issue with the fact you have the audacity to blame Urban for everything, when you and the Tyler team have failed to take any visible action for years that have brought us any monetary relief for our aggrieved position. You have sued nobody of consequence for years, wasting our time and likely blowing the statute of limitations so we can never sue the real deep pockets in the future.
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached by the fact you have not brought CMKX to commence trading again, even though you now have $33M on the books and could force a short squeeze of Biblical proportions. A short squeeze of trillions of shares would hold the bankers accountable twice if they already settled. If you already settled, that completely explains why you have not gone back to trading to force a short cover – by the terms of a settlement agreement, you can’t!
That point leads into the next issue, unbelievably, you are deliberately letting the 45 million Entourage Shares go back to Entourage instead of doing the logical thing of seeking to distribute it to the shareholders (unable to distribute due to the NSS), filing an interpleader and exposing the NSS and forcing a settlement (indicating again, that you already settled in secret).
You have acted like some sort of overlord by taking it on yourself to appoint a new CEO and a BOD without our say and against our will (not one of them would be there if we had anything to say about it – some may have criminal records). If there are people on the board or who hold positions as officers that have criminal records, WE DEMAND FULL DISCLOSURE and IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. This is not a criminal cadre or a mafia front, we want people with a proven history of talent, experience and honor – nothing less.
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached as you are letting the bankers get away and not taking the lead of Patrick Byrne by suing them and utilizing Bagley’s and WFB’s Bonds as financial backing (again, further indicating that you have settled and can no longer sue them). A lawyer has 2 defendants equally responsible for a claim, a street bum and Donald Trump. You have let Trump go and sued the bums. It makes zero sense, UNLESS it is a scam.
You have STILL failed to adequately address the role of Robert Maheu – perhaps the most significant intelligence operative in US history (other than Bill once tossing out the bullshjt story that “Maheu was just another guy feeding from the trough.” If that was true, why you have never sued him or his estate.
Also, a greatly respected attorney in Roger Glenn is being categorized as some sort of wrongdoer in this case. Hard to believe, but if that were truth, then why have you not sued Mr Glenn and his law firm? In fact, Mr. Glenn is a partner in that firm so ALL of the partners would be open to being liable. Those defendants all by themselves would be huge. Conveniently, and greatly opposite to the bullshjt story you have promulgated to the shareholders, you have done nothing to pursue this deep pocket either.
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached as you have failed to address the Jeffries Letter which indicated a 112 B share NSS, just for Jeffries and for just a 6 month period (again, indicating further that you have settled and not divulged the truth to the SH).
You are sitting there like a moron and letting the SEC place the entire blame on penniless NevWest for all of this fraud and the “trillions” of NSS (BF quote), when it was other brokers and MM’s who did it and most importantly, the DTCC who was to blame (you are letting the deep pockets get off of the hook by letting them call them unregistered shares instead of NSS and pinning this criminality down to a penniless defendant in NevWest so we will end up getting nothing).
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached as unbelievably, you have failed to complete the cert pull – just before CMKX exposed the NSS, with trillions of uncounted shares still in your possession - which was the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE NEEDED TO COMPLETE - citing a lack of funds as why you stopped. Did you ask for help counting the certs? Why spend money on other lawsuits when this was the essential piece of the puzzle for us to recover immense amounts of money? Again Kevin, quit insulting our intelligence – it is really starting to anger us.
You have never explained what is happening with CIM, Lundin, Shore, GEMM, Newmont, or a host of other stocks used by the original team to force a settlement, again, indicating that these stocks are irrelevant as a settlement has already been reached.
I could go on with the bullshjt inconsistencies and obvious deceit that you have displayed, as your actions do not indicate a man who is merely incompetent, it indicates a man full of deceit. With the additional assistance of attorney Bill Frizzell guiding you, you should have already had more than adequate guidance to a poisition that would force a settlement or get us back to trading and do an interpleader so that a judge would order a forced buy-in and causing a short squeeze never seen before in history. You have done nothing but waste our time.
Incidentally, why have you now asked certain shareholders to sign “hold harmless” agreements regarding Deli’s shares as conditions of authorizing share transfers, when you initially endorsed these shares as “there nothing is wrong with them?”
Why do you talk to shareholders on the phone and first ask them if the phone call is being recorded… what truths do you fear being exposed Kevin?
Why is it that up to the day you took over as CEO, you were one of the people spouting the 5-8 cent per share dividend. Being that you were one of the people doing research for the company – an insider - you claimed that your knowledge was good. Now, conveniently, you claim that the entire thing was a fraud? Kevin, we are not as stupid as you hopes might foolishly lead you. Just get the hell out and quit the lies – they are really starting to infuriate this SH base.
Your actions further show to us that a settlement was ALREADY reached as you have been quoted stating to several people – while you were CEO - that “there is no slippery slope and they (the NSS’ers) can not get away” on the naked shorting issue and that “we will win.” Gee Kevin, what happened to those positions now? Now, instead of being so assuring, you are saying we got scammed and that there is nothing there. “Bullshjt” is what I say to you and “the team.”
As for your plea to Urban, please just give us a break. Good, bad or indifferent, the actions of Urban Casavant were essential to exposing this naked short. Maheu and Glenn came in and played the role of hammer, and somehow and with obviously powerful backing, you and the Tyler gang have tried to change history and pretend it never happened. Well, it happened Kevin and Urban Casavant is NOT the scoundrel here, those who are now deceiving us are. Urban set things in motion and without a doubt, CMKM Diamonds had a massive naked short. You are pretending that this greatest asset, this most powerful tool for justice, simply does not exist. Have you have made a back-door deal with the DTCC and SEC to protect the bankers - AGAIN? This is just like the SEC protecting Wall Street 1000 times before and screwing shareholders over in favor of criminals. You expect us to have trust after all of this time and all of the proven lies of this company and the SEC? You are all transparent, fooling nobody and will most certainly be held accountable for your treachery.
Another thing, quit bullshjtting us that we are the cause of our lack of success when you have done nothing but waste our time and resources. Quit pretending that the shareholders are our own worst enemy. Deceit is our enemy and YOU in Tyler are the ones deceiving us. You and the bankers and the government and the mob have been our enemy. You have lied multiple times, acted with gross incompetence and more likely, treachery and treason to our cause.
You claim that we have been scammed. The only scamming is being done by you and the current team. Rest assured, I personally and others will follow you and the rest of the current team for the rest of your lives. We will continue to monitor your financial status and you will NEVER get to spend any money made in secret without ALWAYS having to worry about us. It is guaranteed, that no matter what you do, the worst day in your life will be remembered as the day you lied to these shareholders.
What was the payoff for this treachery Kevin? Do you really think you are going to get to enjoy it? Do your pals at the DTCC and SEC think that we will forget? I hope you are all planning a nice retirement in Antarctica because there is no place in the civilized world that you will not find us watching.
We are just beginning to awaken as a whole Kevin. Thousands of really ticked off people, consistently increasing in numbers, who are not going to take these lies anymore. Not a good thing for any of you. Know that your lies are running thin and we are seriously losing our patience.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:21:56 GMT -5
hundredtoone Diamond Wiz (Moderator) Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT! « Reply #224 Today at 9:11am »
Don't worry...NO ONE will EVER enjoy our MONEY...I am CERTAIN of that...the evil and deceit used against US will be TEN FOLD worse for any CROOKS that took our money INCLUDING the BIG BANKERS...THEY will SUFFER GREATLY for their DECEIT...and DELI is proving it right now on a local scale...the WORLD is suffering right now because of DECIET and LIES...TYLER is NEXT IMO...the CURSE continues...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial)
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:22:27 GMT -5
And you can add many other boards & paltalk rooms (from both sides of the fence) to these figures!! The Tyler clan are dilusional if they think the majority are marching behind them!!Treadstone DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: KEVIN WEST to shareholders 1/30« Reply #126 Yesterday at 6:22pm » Hey fellow CMKX'ers. Does this tell you that we are united--7 pages, 124 replies and 4,446 views. And all posts are positively against what Tyler is trying to do. Man, this is awesome. Kudos to all of you. Oh yes, and to you bashers and moles on these message boards, make sure you run to Tyler and tell them what everyone is saying and at the same time why don't you all got to h---. We are in to win. We are united.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:22:59 GMT -5
Jimbo9567 DIAMOND JEDI Re: KEVIN WEST to shareholders 1/30 « Reply #136 Yesterday at 8:46pm »
Congratulations to all Shareholders,
No one has had to come in and Unite us. We are doing it ourselves. We don't need a fearless leader in Tyler, Texas, we are acting as a team without them.
Thank you also to Funado, Storm, BHollenegg, and so many others that have contributed beautifully written dialogs, written from their hearts and ringing with the sincerity and single-mindedness that occurs when people have finally had enough and have United in a common cause.
I cannot help but wonder if there is something that has transpired in the Grand Jury proceedings that is threatening the management of CMKX in Tyler. It certainly is hard to understand that we suddenly must be United behind them. Are they being scrutinized in ways we are not aware of?
It's all speculation of course, but there has to be some explanation for why Kevin (or whoever) wrote that stuff on the company website at this particular time. If they really are trying to unite the Shareholders for some reason, they sure picked the worst possible way to do it. That in itself bothers me very much. If they are that out of touch with people and are that lacking in human understanding, they don't belong in the management of a company such as ours (or any other for that matter). It takes wisdom, understanding and compassion to be a good leader. In addition it would be nice to have the technical expertise required to run a "mining" company. A degree in mining engineering would certainly be useful.
Regardless, the intended result was not achieved, but a wonderful by-product has occurred that will serve us all much better. Hang on people, the ride is starting to get real interesting.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:38:36 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 01 Feb 2009, 12:01 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804492 of 804641 (Reply to 804466 by snifferpup)
Jump to msg. # snifferpup nice bullchit but one thing that
doesn't add up in this little story, and that is what it is is a story. Bill and everyone on these boards knew about the silver state bank fraud, and the checks to caroline, and they knew about all those bank accounts and exactly what went on. And kev forgets to tell that part of the story because it doesn't add up. The answers to these questions don't add up when we all know the truth, they knew exactly what urban did on sept 5th 2004, and bill knew exactly what urban and je did or didn't do before one silver platter update as we all did, it was all over the boards in early 2005, so this bullchit needs to stop
Mr Faulk, Mr. West, Mr. Frizzell is any of the following true? From Lee Webb:
"If the total number of CMKX shares exceeds CMKX's outstanding share count, this may be due to the existence of Naked Short Shares in the Market," the vaunted task force suggests.
A more explicit claim about purported naked short selling is made in a subsequent section.
"Credible information indicates the number of naked short shares is potentially as high as 2 trillion shares," the task force claims, offering no details regarding the source or exact nature of this incredible "credible information."
"However, these numbers must be legally confirmed and validated before any action can be taken," the greybeard and two lawyer task force continues. "That said, the time has arrived for all CMKX shareholders to flex our considerable collective power in this united campaign to achieve justice for friends, families and ourselves.
"It is our belief that CMKX shareholders have been handed, on a silver platter, the opportunity to become the most formidable force the naked short sale perpetrators have ever faced."
KW Reply Bill made these comments long before we knew the truth about this entire situation. We do not know where these figures stand… we have no idea. The issued and outstanding shares count stands at just over 703.5 billion. The number of shares in certificate form will not go over this amount because the shareholder list is reconciled. However, the number of shares remaining in digital form in brokerage accounts held by shareholders without a physical certificate to back them up is what is not known. Again, we have a long ways to go to get to the point of figuring this out. It will take legal action backed by substantial resources of both legal manpower and money.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:39:53 GMT -5
Cont'd.......... By: gusjarvis 01 Feb 2009, 12:48 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804496 of 804640 (Reply to 804495 by sakosuds103)
actually sak they knew in 2005 funny pedro said ya they knew but they asked don and he said don't worry about it it is nothing. Ya right
john martin read the boards everyday, he posted that in the letter he wrote that said urban was extorted.
I remember asking john martin back in early 05 why in the helll the og was friends with georgeburns who was roasting urban at that time day after day, his response at that time was george was no more of a friend then I was.
Strange how they got all those warnings then, they and all of us saw all those bank accounts and checks, but bill just went no big deal. Ya right, bill found out exactly what was going on like any of us would have done in his position, he found out way back then why roger wrote those opinion letters we all knew about on the boards. He knew everything.
then he gave us the silver platter
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:41:14 GMT -5
cont'd...... By: gusjarvis 01 Feb 2009, 01:05 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804498 of 804645 (Reply to 804495 by sakosuds103)
Jump to msg. # actually sak the whole silver state bank bs was
on the boards big time in early 05, john martin read the boards everyday per his letter when he said urban was extorted.
even that goof ric in the 666 clubhouse had all the info on his notes in 06 before kevin did the famous one of a kind precedent setting interplead with all that work he did from the largest cert pull in history work product
so lets cut the crap and just unify the group and make some noise, no more bullchit
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:44:54 GMT -5
in response to KW's reply to Oldepro....
By: grajekk 01 Feb 2009, 05:31 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804508 of 804647 (Reply to 804466 by snifferpup)
Jump to msg. # Sniffer.. I am starting to smell a half dead rat after that crapola I heard recently from our CMKX leader... A third grade kid in China, with an abacus, could have figured out all the counterfeit shares in this friggen' mess, in about 4 hours. Yet the TT Fizz and all the SEC's horses and all the SEC's men, can't put the CMKX HumptyEgg back together again.. after 4 friggen' years??? Give me a friggen' break!! Ya think shock collars and lie detector tests could straighten out these cheating dogs?
Mark, Kevin and CMKM BOD's.. Are you willing to take lie detector tests if shareholders can arrange it? That's the only way I'm going to believe you at this point. Just too much talking out of the sides of your mouths and backtracking... If you can pass the test of questions conceived by shareholders, you would probably have 39,000 supporters at your beckoned call. Now.. put up or shut up! Just to make it fair, I'll be glad to take a lie detector test, about my motives in this drama. Actually I only have one motive now days.. to hear the whole friggen' truth about this company one time. Not 2000 half truths, a million times.
I got turned down by the SEC when I proposed that their people take the LD tests on questions about CMKX.. I was told that would be very inappropriate to humiliate public officials that way, without charges being filed. HMMMM...(I was also told they would also no longer answer my emails) How about if witnesses sign NDA's good for a week, so the tested can escape to Columbia, Argentina, Iran, or wherever their new "home country of choice" is.. LOL! That would be more fair than what SEC/Government officials have done to us over the last several years imo! If there are any takers, I'm sure my State's Attorney General's Office or the FBI would be more than happy to supply the lie detector machine and official tester...
I can't believe they think they can drag this out any longer... LOL! SPATTER!! SPATTER!!! That's stuff hitting the fan, and the good guys are on the throwing end this time! Trust me!
Snifferpup, it's great to see you're still makin' holes in the lawn! Take care Bud!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:47:20 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 07:32 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804511 of 804649 (Reply to 804466 by snifferpup)
Jump to msg. # reaction to OLDPRO and kevin WEST's letter,,,,
after reading KEVIN's letter and OLDPRO's comments to that letter, i'm struck by how despondent and hopeless kevin sounds. he really makes it look like there is little hope that cmkx is going to win something here.
he doesn't talk about hoping to get back the claims. he doesn't talk about ENT. he doesn't say we have a big naked short, but he does suggest there could be FTDs. but those FTDs are going to be near impossible to prove and about the only way to do that is to get some money from the bad guys, like urban, and then use it to sue the brokers for that information - and he says that's nearly impossible to win. wow, this guy is a downer. how does he manage to get out of bed in the morning? lol
okay, given that kevin is now a TOTAL DOWNER, ask yourself this, if you were the rich guy in texas that is secretly funding this effort by frizzell, kevin, the secretarial staff, the rent, utilities, and a little something to the new CEO and BOD members, wouldn't you eventually throw up your hands after listening to KEVIN tell you in a somber voice that it's impossible and besides, there is no real light at the end of the tunnel. if you were that rich guy wouldn't you stop giving these jokers several hundred thousand dollars each years just so these guys could go to their TYLER office everyday to jack-off - and that is all they are doing if you think about it. if there is nothing there then what are they doing?
let's move on guys - declare it worthless and be done with it if that is what you truly think.
who is paying the bills? FRIZZELL? i thought he closed his practice? how is he making his house payment? who is paying the secretary's salary? who is paying the electric bill? etc. maybe FRIZZELL had a lot saved up and he's using his own saving to give a little something to kevin and the rest of them? maybe FRIZZELL's wife is paying for everything? maybe FRIZZELL has a problem and his wife and relatives are covering for him? who knows? it could be a weird thing. but whatever it is, someone is paying and that person is pretty stupid to be shelling out hundreds of thousands every year in the face of a no-win situation.
KEVIN, i'm sorry, but these facts don't jive with what you just wrote. if it's hopeless then declare it worthless and let us at least take our tax write off. if it's worthless but you are hanging on because you guys have found some dumb schmuck in east texas willing to give you guys hundreds of thousands of dollars each year and you are living easy, then i can at least understand what you are doing. but in the meantime, you've got a lot of people who can't even take the $3,000 tax write off while you and frizzell dork around sounding big when you know there is no tomorrow for cmkx.
and if you really need that money from the bad guys, and URBAN is king bad dude, then why haven't you pushed for that summary judgement? how long are you guys going to delay on that little matter? it's been almost a year since URBAN thumbed his nose at your suit in court. he didn't even show. you had him dead to rights. get the job done. stop dorking around in east texas.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:54:42 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 09:26 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804554 of 804656 (Reply to 804551 by rosencrantz2010)
Jump to msg. # the tyler boys are starting to get crucified. i wouldn't want to be in their shoes. this whole story of theirs, whether it's true or not, is quickly coming apart.
TYLER needs to do a rewrite of things. mark, kevin, bill and the board of directors are increasingly being viewed as the bad guys. i'm not sure what can be done to overcome this perception but it's clear they need to do something.
the TYLER clan is being implicated in a number of things they may not have anything to do with.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:56:11 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 09:21 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804551 of 804656 (Reply to 804547 by solar-fantasy)
Jump to msg. # solar, i read the ontario law in this situation. you are right,,, so what the hell was TYLER thinking bringing suit against URBAN?
they thingy around for a year trying to serve him. they give URBAN forever and a day before he is to appear in court. then after all that time URBAN doesn't appear.
and here we are almost a year after the non-appearance in court and TYLER is sitting in texas with a legal thumb up its assss not saying a thing to explain why they wasted their money and time on what was obviously a losing case to begin with?!!!!!
who would give money to these guys for legal advice? who would hire them in the hopes they could win a case against anyone? does anyone really think TYLER could take on ROGER GLENN's firm in NEW YORK/BOSTON? LOL what a joke!
By: solar-fantasy 01 Feb 2009, 09:27 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804555 of 804656 (Reply to 804551 by rosencrantz2010)
Jump to msg. # Rose-got me. who in the hell would extrapolate from faxed in brokerage statements to an unknown number of shareholders to "prove" a naked short?
Sometimes the obvious answer is true: frizzy is a moron who will do anything if you pay him.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:57:38 GMT -5
guess ya reap what ya sow......
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 09:29 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804556 of 804656 (Reply to 804552 by monetaryshift)
Jump to msg. # monetary, the deal with cmkx had to have been done with urban's blessing, or at least knowledge. so what's their purpose? at first it looked like a sweet deal for the boys in tyler. now, it's looking more and more like a stink hole for them. tyler is getting sucked into something they probably didn't imagine would happen. they are quickly becoming the bad guys. the tables have turned on them in ways that would have been hard to predict two years ago.
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