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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 10:57:10 GMT -5
Well there ya go?? Another question to answer, just add this to the other 50 or more you refuse to answer !!jfarn DIAMOND DIGGER Re: KEVIN WEST to shareholders 1/30 « Reply #57 Today at 10:05pm »
While were at it: I spoke with Antony Santos - NevWest - today for a good 90 minutes. One of the more interesting pieces of information he shared: "John Martin admitted to me in my office to being compensated in either shares and/or cash for promoting the purchase of CMKM"----Frizzell and West were present....ask Mr. West about this exchange.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 10:57:53 GMT -5
genxer DIAMOND DIGGER Re: Mark Faulk call to Morris Richards, DTCC« Reply #30 Today at 12:57pm »
There are 2 people and not RODDY who i trust implicitly who were told over $1 per share by this morris guy. My only beef with it has always been and is what these two forgot to ask was on how many shares was that paid out on to assertain the pot size.
We have never known the float. We've never known the AS and we only know what were told on the OS. So in theroy this could be $1 a share paid on the 40 billion share that i belive was the original OS of the company before the NSS started.
I could give you all my theroy's but the days of theroy's are long gone. But i will say and still maintain until i see absolute proof to the contrary the the raise in the OS was done by Roger Glenn ONLY to make the company match the shares @ cede and company. I have always been able to make the math work to sustaintate this.
I dont know what tyler knows and what it doesnt and i'm not sure i even care to know what it knows and what it doesn't know. I don't trust them because they have never given me a resaon to trust them. They say one thing and do another. The merry band from that living room meeting has been driving the bus all these years. But I am here to tell you that I beleive my friends were told $1 but just not told on how many shares that was paid on. I do not belive that we will be paid $1 a share on our existing shares. I more think that will be adjusted to match what we recieved in CIM shares when and if the day comes. I"ve always beleived CIM was to mark the reals shares of CMKX. This is all my musings. and all my opinion. You all can do with it what you will
If any one sees chrisL please tell him to call genxer. He has my #
thanks.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 10:58:42 GMT -5
jimsnell DIAMOND MINER Re: Mark Faulk call to Morris Richards, DTCC« Reply #38 Today at 2:09pm » We must have value because we are surrounded and bombarded by liars, cheats, thieves, etc
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 10:59:14 GMT -5
KFL DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: Mark Faulk call to Morris Richards, DTCC« Reply #40 Yesterday at 2:28pm » Faulk is not telling the truth. I have called Morris Richards twice this week and each time I received his voice mail advising that he will be out of the office until Monday, February 2, 2009.
And that's The Faulking Truth!
You can believe me or you can believe Mark Bozo the Clown Faulk. Keep on spinning it Mark!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 10:59:50 GMT -5
genxer DIAMOND DIGGER Re: Mark Faulk call to Morris Richards, DTCC« Reply #30 Today at 12:57pm » There are 2 people and not RODDY who i trust implicitly who were told over $1 per share by this morris guy. My only beef with it has always been and is what these two forgot to ask was on how many shares was that paid out on to assertain the pot size. We have never known the float. We've never known the AS and we only know what were told on the OS. So in theroy this could be $1 a share paid on the 40 billion share that i belive was the original OS of the company before the NSS started. I could give you all my theroy's but the days of theroy's are long gone. But i will say and still maintain until i see absolute proof to the contrary the the raise in the OS was done by Roger Glenn ONLY to make the company match the shares @ cede and company. I have always been able to make the math work to sustaintate this. I dont know what tyler knows and what it doesnt and i'm not sure i even care to know what it knows and what it doesn't know. I don't trust them because they have never given me a resaon to trust them. They say one thing and do another. The merry band from that living room meeting has been driving the bus all these years. But I am here to tell you that I beleive my friends were told $1 but just not told on how many shares that was paid on. I do not belive that we will be paid $1 a share on our existing shares. I more think that will be adjusted to match what we recieved in CIM shares when and if the day comes. I"ve always beleived CIM was to mark the reals shares of CMKX. This is all my musings. and all my opinion. You all can do with it what you will If any one sees chrisL please tell him to call genxer. He has my # thanks. Yesterday at 1:42pm, sokr61 wrote:Genxer,If I'm reading you right, I've calculated the payout as such: Cim ratio paid on 1,562,500,000,000 Original OS was 40,000,000,000 multiplier is 1.5625T / 40B = 39.0625 Payout is $1.00 / 39.0625 = $0.0256/sh Now since you said over $1.00/sh, then it could be over 2.56 cents/sh......is that right? I kept buying shares because I believed our payout was being diluted. genxer DIAMOND DIGGER Re: Mark Faulk call to Morris Richards, DTCCThe X = was never provided so that's why any of these #s could be obtained. You could argue you had to pay $1 on the 400B that Cede and company had. You can't extrapolate out the payout becuase you don't know the share structure and that has always been the problem. But not for one second do i doubt that my friends were told $1 a share becaus frankly that's what the law says the penalty is for NSS. If i had to guess, the real Os was know and all the share holders were identified the day of the CIM divvy in 2004. But they did not stop it. And they allowed those Cim shares to be sold or stripped or what ever and that really has made a mess. But see all of this assumes you believe that this was worked out and that its not all about bad urban bad urban, Sue Sue Sue. I don't know who had that money who has that money who was paid that money or where that money is. And i dont know who made what mess buy jumping both feet in the middle. But with tyler in control of the shares. there is no guarantee that tomorrow they don't reverse our shares we have 1 share each and we each get a $1. There are so many variables here and i dont' know who is playing what game but it really sucks for the honest hardworking shareholder that dumped his life savings in this. But the more i look and think on this the more i come to the consultion that there NO one on our side and there needs to be. If tyler really needed to make this call it shows you they have no more transparancy than we do.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:00:21 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:00:47 GMT -5
By: amos8111 31 Jan 2009, 12:17 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804194 of 804211 Jump to msg. # Does Kevin West really believe this, where do they come up with this stuff? It would take years after an indictment until Cassavant would come before a judge for sentencing. After a conviction a couple of years down the road and without anyone realizing a ROI, I seriously doubt that there would be anyone (except for shills) that would stand and sing praises in front of a judge on Urban’s behalf. From KW's letter: I can only imagine that you continue to tell people lies of the trillions of dollars waiting for them in some unseen fund because you believe that you will have hundreds of shareholders standing before that Federal sentencing judge on your day of reckoning to sing your praises. I wonder how long it took the Tyler boy’s to come up with that one in a brainstorming session. It’s hard to see what benefit Casavant gains by his people posting on message boards promising a ROI if in fact he is indicted and convicted. It’s become apparent that Tyler is ignoring the 800 pound Gorilla in the room, those who actually have deep pockets and have real liability. They are the ones that would benefit with the settlement, check in the mail BS. Kevin, instead of the emotional pleas about inconsequential matters, why don’t you comment on the document in this link and some of the other questions that have been asked concerning the Tyler operation? Shareholder unity is not in the cards unless you folks show us more of your cards, (if you have any). www.finra.org/web/groups/industry/@ip/@reg/@notice/documents/notices/p117716.pdf All IMHO, amos
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:01:47 GMT -5
xxdiamondchildxx DIAMOND MINER Urban ASKED that CMKX Shareholders become involved « Thread Started Today at 11:59am »
My Fellow CMKXers, if Urban had ill intent...why bother opening up the "can of worms" on himself? Why hand off the Company to a man that would inevitably reveal him in such a negative light? ...it all makes absolute ZERO sense IMO.
The above being said, I posted this below post back on 12/30/07. It is still relevant today IMO. The fact that THE CREDIBLE AND REPUTABLE Roger Glenn and Robert Mahau were working with Urban...and that Urban asked that CMKX Shareholders become involved...shows me that there is IMMENSE validity to tremendous damaging evidence being revealed (by the above mentioned "Powers That Be")...and that the agreement with the influential pillagers was to have a fall guy in Urban and a genre of criminal activity by ex-CMKX executives relayed by Kevin West. Again, ALL IMHO.
To me, LOGIC RULES!...and the smoke and mirrors are clear as day.
Again, please read my "blast from the past post" below:
Urban ASKED that CMKX Shareholders become involved
Dec 30, 2007, 10:51pm » ....when he requested the Certificate Pull...with the use of a Robert Mahue directed TASK FORCE. Prior to this, there appeared to be strong Company inuendos to have CMKX Shareholders hold into revocation. Now, logic would say that besides identifying Bona Fide CMKX Shareholders via the Certificate Pull...there was a CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Naked Shorting issue to be addressed (as per Frizzell's comments and the mention of Naked Shorting on The CMKM Task Force's website).
Now, with the above being stated...CMKX Shareholders must dig within their "voices of reason" and ask themselves...WHY?...and even more so...WHY BOTHER? If CMKX Shareholders were on a so called "road to nowhere" (as a number of individuals would like you to think)...then why did Urban and CMKM Diamonds, Inc. take the time, effort, and $$$'s (well calculated measures) post revocation?...and AS A RESULT...make CMKX Shareholders "PERSONALLY" involved beyond a simple investment.
All of the above is "food for thought" and IMHO...so please take it as such. God Bless those with "Righteous" intent! Peter (Dxild)
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:03:25 GMT -5
By: chrisl_l 31 Jan 2009, 09:57 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804237 of 804314
This is what should happen next:
Now if I were the CEO of CMKM and with the recent events that transpired this is what I would do and this is what the CEO should do.
After this phone call with Morris Richards based on my initial conversation there are obvious holes in his answers. Lets not read between the lines cause the holes are very apparent.
Mark Faulk should walk into Bill Frizzell's office or call him on the phone and say Bill this is what we need to do now not tomorrow not next week but now.
The company needs to contact the superiors of Morris Richards. If we get stone walled by his superiors we need to get a subpenea for records and phone conversations dating back to 2005. We need to find out if there was a stock distribution as Morris Richards said or was there funds collected as shareholders have stated. We need to know why Morris Richards said he could not talk it about with me the CEO of this company.
And Bill if you do not do this you are fired.
I then will go hire another attorney that will do this. What the CEO of this company needs to remember is the attorney works for the company not the other way around.
Footnote: I really respect what Al Hodges is doing even though at times he seems like a loose cannon but anyone that thinks some entity is gonna spill their guts to an attorney that is not part of the company you need to get your head examined.
Hey here is a thought if Bill Frizzell does not want to do what the CEO is demanding of him maybe Al Hodges will?
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 10:11 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804242 of 804315
Jump to msg. # What if Richards told Mark what he told other shareholders, would you believe Mark would tell the same story when K.W wrote that letter yesterday? K.W probably had written that letter before Mark called the DTC...
Chril - MF/BF always know what other is doing...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:03:57 GMT -5
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 10:34 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804253 of 804316 (Reply to 804248 by rosencrantz2010) Jump to msg. # Rose - If and when UC is in jail... I definitely give up.... However, this will never happen...and Casavant Diamonds/Postasium/oil sands will be known...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:04:30 GMT -5
By: chrisl_l 31 Jan 2009, 09:57 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804237 of 804314 This is what should happen next: Now if I were the CEO of CMKM and with the recent events that transpired this is what I would do and this is what the CEO should do. After this phone call with Morris Richards based on my initial conversation there are obvious holes in his answers. Lets not read between the lines cause the holes are very apparent. Mark Faulk should walk into Bill Frizzell's office or call him on the phone and say Bill this is what we need to do now not tomorrow not next week but now. The company needs to contact the superiors of Morris Richards. If we get stone walled by his superiors we need to get a subpenea for records and phone conversations dating back to 2005. We need to find out if there was a stock distribution as Morris Richards said or was there funds collected as shareholders have stated. We need to know why Morris Richards said he could not talk it about with me the CEO of this company. And Bill if you do not do this you are fired. I then will go hire another attorney that will do this. What the CEO of this company needs to remember is the attorney works for the company not the other way around. Footnote: I really respect what Al Hodges is doing even though at times he seems like a loose cannon but anyone that thinks some entity is gonna spill their guts to an attorney that is not part of the company you need to get your head examined. Hey here is a thought if Bill Frizzell does not want to do what the CEO is demanding of him maybe Al Hodges will? By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 10:11 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804242 of 804315 Jump to msg. # What if Richards told Mark what he told other shareholders, would you believe Mark would tell the same story when K.W wrote that letter yesterday? K.W probably had written that letter before Mark called the DTC... Chril - MF/BF always know what other is doing... By: spunkwater 31 Jan 2009, 10:36 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804255 of 804316 (Reply to 804237 by chrisl_l) Jump to msg. # chrisl - I agree with your general idea, but not the way you want to do it. Frizzell is not the CEO's personal lawyer; he is general counsel to the corporation. As such, he answers to the B of D. So, the way the the real world of business works is that Mark would sit down with him to explore Bill's opinion on the matter. If no legal barrier exists, then he and Bill would discuss it with the board to to see if they concur that your suggested measures should be taken. If so, then the company proceeds. Your procedure would be a prostituting of corporate general counsel. No good lawyer would stand for that, nor should a board of directors. Talk about a loose cannon....
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:05:10 GMT -5
Does ELO still read the boards? Paltalk? Vast majority?? ya gotta be kidding ELO?? DUH !By: elo54 31 Jan 2009, 10:38 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804257 of 804316 Jump to msg. # Hello Kevin Good to hear you are still actively involved.I know you speak the truth and imo the vast majority of the shareholders believe you and the present management.However we have a minority of shareholders who are being manipulated by a small group with either have a special interest agenda or there are some others whom are out and out sociopath's.In a shareholder group our size they tend to be very aggressive. Thank God I did not bring in other family and friends into this scam as you unfortunately did. I have every confidence you and present management will bring some value to the company in the coming years.I also have every confidence in the justice system and we will see the scam artists in Federal prison for a long time.I wonder what its like being an ex prison guard on the inside,not very good I'm sure. Kevin, as you know I have lost big time on this scam and like many others I was fed false information for years before I saw the light with the help of John Smith in Las Vegas. A long time back, like a lot of other good people I saw the light have moved on with my life.My advice for the rest of you who have not,START TODAY. I thank you Kevin and the other members of management and I urge to continue the good fight for the majority of the good people in CMKX. Put the crooks in jail. Very sincerely ELO By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 10:49 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804263 of 804316 Jump to msg. # WhereTH is ELO & his $3.4B that he saw via his buddies and attorneys...Many folks bought CMKX because of his f'king pump back in 2004 and now he is still having the guts to post here like that...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:05:42 GMT -5
By: aladin99 31 Jan 2009, 01:01 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804310 of 804317 (Reply to 804290 by aladin99)
Jump to msg. # Mark admitted again there is a huge FTD,,,
THIS MUST BE A STING & THE COMPANY TOOK THE FALL IF YOU LISTEN TO THE 54-minute mark...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:06:07 GMT -5
joebud vegas member Re: The New Rumor Mill Thread« Reply #656 Today at 10:18am » heard that Faulk or one of his "researchers" got Richards home number and that was how he got through to him. Richards was out if the office for a while. I'm no fan of Tyler but it's not hard to get home numbers these days. I also think Richards was lying when he denied saying a payment was coming in dollars.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:06:56 GMT -5
Posted by: jarta Date: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:29:25 PM In reply to: jimmym4 who wrote msg# 266725 Post # of 266844
jimmy, ... "I seem to remember Deli saying he checked with a Lawyer and the SEC and they said it was ok what he was doing!!??"
Lots of apologists, promoters and hypesters of CMKX have said things that obviously are not true.
But, can you point me to something people who warned you about CMKX and Casavant said that hasn't turned out to be true? ... eom
Posted by: jimmym4 Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:03:48 AM In reply to: jarta who wrote msg# 266729 Post # of 266844
Ya..lots here said urbie would be in jail by now
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