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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 11:59:33 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 09:21 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804551 of 804656 (Reply to 804547 by solar-fantasy) Jump to msg. # solar, i read the ontario law in this situation. you are right,,, so what the hell was TYLER thinking bringing suit against URBAN? they thingy around for a year trying to serve him. they give URBAN forever and a day before he is to appear in court. then after all that time URBAN doesn't appear. and here we are almost a year after the non-appearance in court and TYLER is sitting in texas with a legal thumb up its assss not saying a thing to explain why they wasted their money and time on what was obviously a losing case to begin with?!!!!! who would give money to these guys for legal advice? who would hire them in the hopes they could win a case against anyone? does anyone really think TYLER could take on ROGER GLENN's firm in NEW YORK/BOSTON? LOL what a joke! By: solar-fantasy 01 Feb 2009, 09:27 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804555 of 804656 (Reply to 804551 by rosencrantz2010) Jump to msg. # Rose-got me. who in the hell would extrapolate from faxed in brokerage statements to an unknown number of shareholders to "prove" a naked short? Sometimes the obvious answer is true: frizzy is a moron who will do anything if you pay him. By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 09:39 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804562 of 804657 (Reply to 804555 by solar-fantasy) Jump to msg. # solar, lol, well, you may just be right. he has done some dumb things. and you are right about the misuse of those faxed in statements. those really weren't worth much, and they certainly wouldn't have held up in court. there were too many ways those data could have been incorrect. but, bill and john weren't wrong for doing what they did. i give them credit for trying. it gave them, and us, a sense of what the numbers looked like. nothing wrong in doing that. it was only when frizzell tried to use those numbers in court as representing "fact" that he made his mistake. the cert pull was clearly the way to go, but when they couldn't get past 600+ billion it really weakened their case. the numbers turned on tyler. along those lines, opsurround did a very admirable job in compiling and reporting the cert numbers. one thing it showed is that the average number of shares held kept coming down and the closer we got to the end the more it looked like the total OS would be around 700b shares. you could calculate that from the estimated number of shareholders times the average shares = total os. but why tyler is continuing to play the part of the fool is weird. they have to getting money from somewhere to keep up this little play of theirs. what they are doing doesn't make sense otherwise. why play the part of the stooge unless you're making decent money? and where is that money coming from? By: solar-fantasy 01 Feb 2009, 09:41 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804564 of 804658 Jump to msg. # rose-the april 05 FTD data frizzy got are all you ever needed.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 12:07:44 GMT -5
ncmale28409 01 Feb 2009, 10:35 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804595 of 804661
Jump to msg. # To Kevin West Q.Why do all fortune 500 companies require a college degree when recruiting for a high paying job??? A. It looks good hanging on the wall. B. The bloke/dame paid money to go to college so let's give him/her the job. C. He/she looks good with that degree. D. He/she learnt criticall comprehension skills. E. None of the above.
Naked Shorted Shares mean counterfeited shares, not Failure to Deliver. Let me make it simple for a high school dropout making $10,000.00 a month and calling his employer names. Let's see....you lend me $10.00....no, let's make it that I lend you $10.00, because you didn't even have money to buy your own food when you went with UC to see those , so called, core samples...with me so far??? Good. Now, I ask you for my money back. A. You tell me you don't have it but you'll will give it to me in 13 days, that's called T+13, ask some securities attorney, he'll explain it you what it means. Sorry, I forgot I'm talking to a high school dropout who couldn't even afford food but goes to see a CEO of some SCAM company where he pluncked A Whole $1,000.00 to make Millions.(You met UC I didn't) You failed to Deliver and you'll pay in 13 days...deliver what??? Money, you bum!!! B. You go to Kinkos', borrow $10.00 from the guy making copies there, make a copy of that $10.00 Bill, gives the guy you borrowed from his $10.00 back. You get out, get on your bike and go to the Post Office. You buy an envelope and a stamp, stuff that copied $10.00 bill in the envelope, write my address on it and mail it. That's called Counterfeiting, not FTD, even instead of sending me that copy of the bill you wrote on a piece of paper $10.00, it's like an I Owe You...It's still counterfeiting when it comes to securities.
Now, what does CMKX have FTDs??? If that's the case it's been over 3 years why have they not delivered?? Call the SEC get those deliveries on Monday, Mr. BS Chairman!!!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 12:22:32 GMT -5
How is it cetain shareholders were able to get this information from the DTCC?? Tyler never even tried until now?? The thought never crossed their "minds" ..duh?? Yeah right!! something stinks here....... either the DTCC WILL NOT deal with the "Tyler Clan" or Tyler is privy to more info than they admit and only address a situation when it is uncovered by a shareholder. Cripes, it has been PROVEN over & over again that the credibility of the "Tyler Clan'" leaves much to be desired . By: chrisl_l 01 Feb 2009, 10:51 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804606 of 804662 Jump to msg. # Maybe for once shareholders should stand united on one issue in regards to CMKM. The DTCC is clammering up. That is a fact and anyone that thinks differently is more stupid then the leowantas of the boards. If you are in the camp that believes money was collected over 2-3 years ago then why has it not been distributed? Ask yourself that question. Urban was the CEO of this company then remember that while you are twiddling around in your brain looking for the answer. So why are people blaming Kevin and Bill today for something they were not part of? That is only if money was collected. Remember again Morris Richards said "collected" not collecting. Collected is past tense for people that do not know this. Now think about things logically for a second. If money was collected and for all the people that read this and pass it around I am using the word "if" so try not to twist this too much ok? If money was collected how can this money be distributed? You cannot distribute anything until you know who the "bonafide shareholders" are. The day this stock became revoked is the day the cert transferring should of stopped. But no the cert selling business went on for how long? People were buying and selling from the Marco's of the boards. How many times do you think an original cert got sold? Think about that. The company had a cert pull going on while people were selling certs to others. Again Morris Richards used the word "collected" I did not. And one more thing if money was collected and was supposed to be distributed does anyone think they were going to pass out money while Urban and his friends were still at the helm of this company?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 12:26:56 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 11:04 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804617 of 804672
Jump to msg. # Re: Chairman of the Board Kevin West « Reply #9 on Jan 30, 2009, 8:40pm » Mr. Chairman Of The Board:
Who is paying your salary and Frizzels expenses and to what end?
What are the value added activities behind your employment, and again who is motivated to pay for such activities?
Were you involved with Mark Glisson and endorse/approve his activities?
What is your role/relationship with Steven Brewer?
Why are you still here?
What do you do on a typical work week?
How can you PROVE that you are working for the benefit of the share holders?
If you cannot answer the above questions convincingly and verifiably:
RESIGN.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 12:49:22 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 11:07 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804621 of 804679
Jump to msg. # Marlboroman DIAMOND DIGGER Re: KEVIN WEST to shareholders 1/30 « Reply #45 Today at 7:35pm »
----------------------------------------------------------------- I know MR.West reads This Board!!!,Mr .West Im Sure you Remember me ,We have met a few times in Tyler ,at the Owners Group Office.I was wearing my BDU"s the last time I was There.I have a few Questions for You and Bill.
1.Could you ask Bill why years Back ,Bill had told me we had 39 potash and Uranium mines.Could you ask him Why He told me that?
2.For You Kevin,In person ,I asked you if this would take 4 or 5 years to settle(aprox 2 years ago),your reply ,looking at me,you said if it was going to take that long ,you wouldn"t be there!What Did you mean by that statement?
One last Question,Why havent we seen Bill and You on CNN,FOX or some big media channel fighting for us shareholders,You and Bill are working HARD for the shareholder RIGHT?.Why Keep it Quiet if we have nothing?
In my Opinion this is Bigger than Enron,or MadeOff.Why dont or Havent we seen you or Bill out there fighting for us.When naked shorting happened to Overstock you See News about it!Madeoff didnt EVEN have a shareholder Base like us,Havent seen You or Bill in the news. Why? Are ya All scared? Have you Been payed Off,Im sure you all could take Susan T. with you and all your Doc.(Virginia Law Doc.) and Make One Hell of a Stink with the Law Firms working with you ,This Should be and Is Big! Why no Media?I know You remember me Kevin,I"ve seen you 3 times or more.You can call me,Please, enlighten me,or Entertain me.
Tim Beebe/listed/Eaton,Colorado!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 12:56:50 GMT -5
Sad, that the shareholders could not count on the CEO, Chairman & the BOD of the TYLER CMKM Diamonds to fight the fight, we have expected of them, for the past so many years. Says it all in this VERY powerful post.... cmkxunofficial.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=mofo&action=display&thread=3133By: chrisl_l 01 Feb 2009, 11:25 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804634 of 804683 Jump to msg. # Derivative Lawsuit: Why doesn't Al Hodges file a derivative lawsuit on behalf of the CMKM Shareholders against the DTCC? There is a smoking gun here and seems to be enough information to at least get the ball rolling. Mr. Hodges can set up a PayPal account for money to allow him to finance this. Tyler has no money and I personally believe Tyler will not move forward with anything against the DTCC at this time. They do not believe there is money and either do I but I believe the DTCC has the information that can lead to the brokers. For instance what if brokers went to the DTCC and requested a cert for 14 billion shares and the DTCC says we have a record of 1 billion for you how come you need 14 billion? Oh Oh the broker has a problem and the DTCC has the records for this. So by pass Tyler and let Al Hodges. The bulls eye is on the DTCC who, what, where, why and when
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 13:06:44 GMT -5
geeeeeeezzzzzus, same reply as above...WTH makes ya think we can count on Tyler now?? Did ya take the time to read this post??cmkxunofficial.proboards29.com/in....lay&thread=3133 By: chrisl_l 01 Feb 2009, 11:36 AM EST Rating: Msg. 804642 of 804689 Jump to msg. # Al Hodges can by pass Tyler with a derivative lawsuit on behalf of the shareholders. If anything this will help Tyler so why wouldn't they help when the time comes
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Post by enoughalready on Feb 1, 2009 13:17:18 GMT -5
THe only way I see it is that Tyler is getting paid 10k a month not for the benefit of the SH's..What other explaination can there be for their lack of action over the last year+. Can I get paid 10k a month for nothing?!?!?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 13:18:39 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 13:23:40 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 01 Feb 2009, 12:09 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804663 of 804695
so mark we are all idiots except the og who are the only ones involved in this farce that even give a crap that all these agencies were watching, not one other person or company involved gave a crap that all these agencies were watching them, even after they were caught. Man there is some really dumb criminals in this farce hey, and of course us shareholdes are idiots, great job unifying us boys
"do you really believe that current management would do anything morally or even legally wrong to cause further damage to innocent shareholders with 50,000 shareholders, the SEC, Department of Treasury, DOJ, FBI, FINRA and only God knows who else looking over our shoulders? I mean seriously… think about it! Would you?"
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 13:39:59 GMT -5
By: aladin99 01 Feb 2009, 12:05 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804661 of 804703
Jump to msg. # Person like Cautious (newly BOD) would quit his position there if he read KW's yesterday BS but he did not quit...so be happy guys!
By: rosencrantz2010 01 Feb 2009, 12:57 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804686 of 804703 (Reply to 804661 by aladin99)
Jump to msg. # ALADIN, I don't know cautious. what makes him so special and why is it significant that he didn't resign his BOD position the other day following the release of kevin's letter?
i'm missing something in this story.
aladin, what's cautious like? i don't know him or anyone related to him, etc. if the fellow was being paid some money for being on the board would he swallow his pride and remain working on the board even if he thought kevin and the others were trying to hide the truth?
i wonder why it's so hard for anyone to spell out a timeframe? if you have the cards, and have the other guy in a tough spot then why not call the other player? what's to be gained by stretching it out year after year?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 13:41:12 GMT -5
By: aladin99 01 Feb 2009, 01:39 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804709 of 804711
Jump to msg. # Sportman - re-read KW's letter... Tyler does not want to cause any damage to the SEC, DOJ, IRS, FBI, FINRA and Department of Treasury that is why they use word FTD instead of NSS...Tyler has been instructed what to say by those Departments...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 13:43:00 GMT -5
By: jfarn 01 Feb 2009, 01:35 PM EST Rating: Msg. 804705 of 804711 Jump to msg. # Aloha Joe, What was that guy's name who used to opine incessantly about global economic realignment? Economy | 01.02.2009 Davos Founder Announces Global Economic Initiative "He said there needed to be a systemic redesign of the global banking system, financial regulation and corporate governance." "The key is global cooperation," Schwab stated later, "not only among government but among all the stakeholders of our society." www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3994563,00.html?maca=en-aa-pol-863-rdf I think this bloak also used to rant back in Jan, 2007 about: It'll happen. I hope you haven't sold your shares. The country will undergo rejuvenation very shortly. The next President will be a democrat and the democratic party is about to shake up some things that will benefit the nation fiscally, especially the small guys like us. Hang in there and don't give up hope yet. Watch the media sources closely and prepare to be astonished.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 14:01:26 GMT -5
joebud vegas member Re: The New Rumor Mill Thread« Reply #656 Today at 10:18am » heard that Faulk or one of his "researchers" got Richards home number and that was how he got through to him. Richards was out if the office for a while. I'm no fan of Tyler but it's not hard to get home numbers these days. I also think Richards was lying when he denied saying a payment was coming in dollars. heat1944 DIAMOND JEDI Re: buzz chat 1/30 -->« Reply #43 Today at 12:07pm » If he called him at home while on vacation why oh why would he state: "Faulk: Alright. Is there someone else there that I can speak to, like a superior or someone who can.... " Does not sound like he called him at home to me. Oh, uh, Yeah...my momma is here, wait I will ask her.. Faulk: Okay, well that answers one of my questions. Is there anybody there that I can speak with to kind of follow up on this, because as I said, I'm CEO of the company and we get a ton of rumors and occasionally they turn out to be true and many times they turn out not to be true, and I have to just trace them back so that they do not grow into.....
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 1, 2009 14:09:52 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney Mod Squad Re: KEVIN WEST to shareholders 1/30 « Reply #149 Today at 1:57am »
From the very beginning, I have wondered about the credentials of Kevin West, Mark Faulk and Bill Frizzell to run this company. We have yet to see a real resume from any of them... and the resumes we saw from the new Board Members did not do anything to give me confidence that this was a qualified team to work through the complex and challenging issues facing this company.
e.g.
What relevant business Experience do they have?
What mining related experience do they have?
What experience do they have creating and running "Publicly" trading companies?
What experience do they have working with the SEC to get a company into reporting status, and trading?
What experience do they have... period?
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, that Kevin is trying to be honest with us... perhaps this is the real source of his frustration. They are simply in over their heads.
Or, perhaps their real intentions are in fact much more nefarious, and perhaps JFARN's communication with David Kotz - SEC Attorney General - who now apparently wants to investigate the Tyler Gang - made them a bit nervous.
We already know that the recent rumors of a DTCC collection and payout caused Mark enough concern to have allegedly called the source himself.
Or, perhaps the recent discovery of a Grand Jury Investigation by the IRS/ Treasury Department into CMKM Diamonds causes them some pause?
And, how about Al Hodges involvement to uncover and disclose the truth... perhaps that too got them just a little bit nervous... that their real intentions, and the intentions of their financial sponsors, will be uncovered.
AIMO, - Show
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