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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 16, 2009 18:11:19 GMT -5
By: trixijude 16 Mar 2009, 10:42 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817527 of 817586 (Reply to 817481 by aladin99)
Jump to msg. # I've been away for awhile, but after looking at the past few days messages, it's very obvious the bashers degree of frustration has greatly intensified. I Didn't think they could sink any lower. Good sign, we're almost there!
Thanks again for your consistent effort to keep the record straight.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 16, 2009 18:12:03 GMT -5
By: aladin99 16 Mar 2009, 10:51 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817528 of 817586 Jump to msg. # AIG (insurer), C(NSS), CMKX(victim)... all survive? ??
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 16, 2009 22:20:05 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 16 Mar 2009, 05:56 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 817580 of 817626 (Reply to 817572 by phatboy1988)
Jump to msg. # hey phatboy and patch showed out of those 9000
companies, one third of all the naked shorting went through cmkx.
pretty amazing chit hey my friend.
the most counterfeited stock of all times, run by the lead spook of all times, and super lawyers.
All watched, every red flagged trade, by the sec/fbi/doj/irs/bill frizzell/and us!
By: moby84115 16 Mar 2009, 06:20 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 817584 of 817632 (Reply to 817580 by gusjarvis)
Jump to msg. # gus and yet we sit here after 5+ years with no ROI did we give up our investment for the betterment of the whole? Did we do it for our kids and grand kids.
By: gusjarvis 16 Mar 2009, 06:27 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 817586 of 817632 (Reply to 817584 by moby84115)
Jump to msg. # moby and we sit with eagletech, overstock
we sit with bcit, we sit with glke, we sit with all the companies that ordered their nobo lists and proved their shorts already. We all sit waiting, nobody more special than the other in the waiting game, but some much more important in the victory!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 16, 2009 23:13:08 GMT -5
thanks luci By: chrisl31509 15 Mar 2009, 12:37 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 817329 of 817511 (Reply to 817294 by chrisl31509) Jump to msg. # By: chrisl31509 15 Mar 2009, 12:03 PM EDT Rating: post rating 0 Msg. 817294 of 817327 Jump to msg. # I brought up a valid point of contention with regards to the SEC and this 622 billion unregistered security. The company should be addressing this issue and the company is the only entity that can do this. But how do you get the company to do this?
You the shareholder write a letter to the company a very simple letter asking the following questions:
1. Is the stock certificate that I am holding registered? Provide the company with your cert number.
2. Is the 622 billion unregistered securities that the SEC stated are in the market part of the 703 billion or are they above the 703 billion?
Two very simple questions. Don't ask about where my money is or idiotic stuff like where is my Entourage Cert.
But it seems people have trouble understanding these 2 very easy questions. I have read on PB86 that they want to ask Bob Hollenegg for advice. What the hell does that do?
Only the company can this and they have the SEC behind a rock and hard place. Force the company to get the answers and do not wait.
Or wait for Bhollenegg and Al Hodges and then watch the statute of limitations expire.
- - - - - ################### BA DA BING!! ################### By: bhollenegg 16 Mar 2009, 06:09 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817500 of 817512 (Reply to 817329 by chrisl31509) Jump to msg. # Hello Chrisl,
I agree not to wait for Attorney Hodges and BHollenegg to do their part in obtaining an official confirmation of the compensation. The Legal Shareholders need to receive clarification from the company on the two questions you submitted as follows…
“1. Is the stock certificate that I am holding registered? Provide the company with your cert number.
2. Is the 622 billion unregistered securities that the SEC stated are in the market part of the 703 billion or are they above the 703 billion?"
It is imperative for the Legal Shareholders to continue the pressure on the entities that have any influence on the release of the compensation funds required by law for the Legal Shareholders. Many shareholders have sent emails, letters, Faxes, and communicated by telephone to a list of entities provided by the organizers of the blitz campaign. The list includes State and Federal agencies, politicians, and Attorneys …anyone that can influence and put more pressure on the release of compensation funds.
I disagree about the Statutes of Limitations that you conveyed “Or wait for Bhollenegg and Al Hodges and then watch the statute of limitations expire.”
Attorney Bill Frizzell stated in a correspondence to Attorney Donald Stoecklein concerning CMKM’s situation “The cases which I have found interpreting the relevant statutes do not suggest a specific time period within which to request action.”
Additionally,when there is an intentional cover-up, as in the case of providing misinformation from the original incident, the Statute of Limitations does not apply. This happened to me when I was seeking compensation to cover my medical expenses as a result from toxic exposure. The corporate attorney called me and said “You are not authorized to claim workman’s compensation to cover the medical expenses…there are no blood tests that can be used in a court of law that would be accepted as proof in causing my medical condition.” There was. The Statute of Limitations was removed because the corporate attorney, whether intentional or not, provided false information.
Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 16, 2009 23:14:16 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney Mod Squad Re: weekly BUZZ 3/16 « Reply #1 Today at 12:17pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Great idea from Chrisl and Bob Hollenegg above. Here's a thought... if you want to add a little more pressure on Tyler, send your request by email directly to Kevin West... and make sure you copy Agent Charyn Adlred (IRS), Special Agent Brian Bresseman (SEC OIG), and Mr. David Kotz - the SEC's Inspector General.
Oh... and be sure to turn "Read Receipt" on within your email so that you have a record of sending the email, and their reading it.
Kevin West: Kevin West (kwest@cmkmdiamondsinc.com)
Charyn Aldred: charyn.aldred@ci.irs.gov;
Brian Bressman: bressmanb@sec.gov;
Mr. David Kotz: OIG@SEC.GOV
AIMO,
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 17, 2009 6:07:48 GMT -5
:)speedo, agree with single...ALL assistance appreciated!
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 17, 2009 6:10:57 GMT -5
ty seagull...
By: showmethemoney
Re: DeliDog Updatejavascript:add(%22%20:(%22) « Reply #45 Today at 2:15pm »
---------------------------------------------------------------- stressfreeliving...
Delisting a company is different in intent than not allowing people to personally own, sell and buy property, and other tangible assets... which is a Constitutionally guaranteed right.
A Cert is a form of property. It represents your ownership interest in a company or other business interest. When a company is delisted, that simply means securities brokers can no longer represent buyers and sellers in a trade, and the shares cannot be traded on the exchanges.
I have looked up and read the law on this subject. I suggest you and others should do the same before causing more confusion on this subject. It's not hard to do.
Respectfully, and AIMO,
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By the way... everyone may be interested to know that Kevin West and Mark Faulk are still authorizing the sale of CMKX Securities. Just ask them.
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 17, 2009 6:12:40 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney Mod Squad Re: weekly BUZZ chatter « Reply #5 Yesterday at 1:54pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In my opinion, Tyler has been acting totally on their own. In all their communications, both private and public, they are stating that there was/ is no Sting, period, that they can uncover. I think we can take them at their word on that. (Not that they are looking that hard, imo... it's just not part of their personal agenda/ plan.) e.g. if there is a Sting, then they (Tyler) were and are not part of it. At this point, we have to hope the Grand Jury has been acting on their own to finish up a Sting that they initiated... hopefully with Maheu... and that at some point they will come back with judgments that allow us to move on, and receive an ROI through RICO charges against the Market Makers and Brokers that facilitated the sales of the largest number of Unregistered Securities, and probably NSS securities, ever. Now, if Tyler were really in on this for our benefit... why aren't they all over the SEC, FBI, DOJ, Senators and Congressional Representatives, and the Media, to call out the brokers and market makers for helping John Edwards and Roger Glenn sell 529 Billion Unregistered Securities? IMO, Tyler is taking the easy route... for them. If they can get the company back to trading, they and their insiders will receive a decent ROI... but shareholders will not. They win... while we shareholders receive pennies on the dollar, at best. In contrast, if we can get RICO charges against the Market Makers and Brokers who knowingly sold unregistered shares (under Rule 15c2-11 - which requires that they do their own due diligence before selling and buying shares for their clients), we would have a much greater opportunity of seeing a decent ROI. AIMO, - Show « Last Edit: Yesterday at 1:58pm by ShowMeTheMoney » millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=25019
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 17, 2009 6:17:14 GMT -5
capten DIAMOND MINER The Next Hearings « Thread Started Today at 2:45am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Got Morning District Case Inquiry - Corp. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Case 06-A-515435-C Status ACTIVE Plaintiff Rutherford, Jay Attorney Keach, Eckley M. Defendant CMKM Diamonds Inc Attorney Koch, David R. Judge Glass, Jackie Dept. 5 Filed Date 01/06/2006 Closed Date Last Hear 11/10/2008 For PROVE UP OF DEFAULT Outcome DEFAULT JUDGMENT GRANTED Next Hear 04/01/2009 For PLTF'S MTN FOR ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE /16 Pre-trial 03/31/2008 at 09:00 AM Trial Disposed Disposition Consolidated ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Case 07-A-534087-B Status ACTIVE Plaintiff Carrano, Francisco Attorney Clary, Patrick C. Defendant CMKM Diamonds Inc Attorney Koch, David R. Judge Denton, Mark R. Dept. 13 Filed Date 01/08/2007 Closed Date Last Hear 12/09/2008 For DISCOVERY CONFERENCE Outcome Next Hear 04/06/2009 at 09:00 AM For PLTF'S MTN FOR PARTIAL SUM JUDGMENT /21 Pre-trial 07/27/2009 at 02:00 PM Trial 08/04/2009 at 09:00 AM Disposed Disposition Consolidated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Case 08-A-569762-C Status ACTIVE Plaintiff CMKM Diamonds Inc Attorney Koch, David R. Defendant Viashow Inc Attorney Ryan, Thomas G. Judge CADISH, ELISSA Dept. 6 Filed Date 08/15/2008 Closed Date Last Hear 10/07/2008 For DEFT'S MTN TO CONSOLIDATE WITH A569615/02 Outcome GRANTED Next Hear 04/14/2009 at 08:30 AM For PLTF'S MTN FOR SETTLEMENT CONFERENCE/3 Pre-trial Trial Disposed Disposition Consolidated 08-A-569615 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Capten millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=25028
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 17, 2009 6:28:16 GMT -5
Ric Executive Administrator 633b unregistered shares are they real...yes « Thread Started Today at 12:59am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There still seems to be confusion of the 633b shares the SEC is using to go after Urban and Edwards. People are still asking if they are shareholders and are they registered shares now. Well they are real shares and they are part of the 703b share o/s. But no they aren't registered. None of the 703 billion shares are. People are confusing the companies ability to issue shares and what the SEC considers unregistered. All unregistered shares means is that real shares issued by the company that fall under S-Reg. restrictions where sold on the market before the restriction was lifted. Nothing more. These are real shares. Only real shares can fall under unregistered guidelines. Fake shares or counterfeit shares are just that. They would fall under different rules. Everyone on the boards unless they hold shares giving to them directly from the company probably hold these so-called unregistered shares. Thats because Urban ran a pump and dump. But the word unregistered only deals with the ability to buy and sell. It has nothing to do with the companies ability to issue or the shareholders rights when holding the shares. For the most part the only rules the SEC has on unregistered shares is when they can be sold. If you got shares in a private company like TOG, you also own unregistered shares. They are not registered to be sold on the open market. If the company IPO's and the shares are registered with the SEC then you could sell them through a broker. But the shares are real and shareholders own them and own the company. They are just unregistered to be sold on the market. You can sell them though through private sell which is governed by State laws, not the SEC. The only thing the unregistered means is if they are unregistered, you can't sell them on the open market until the S-Reg. restrictions are lifted and then they become registered to trade on the market if you are a publicly traded company. It doesn't matter if they are registered or unregistered as far as whether you own them or not. Unregistered has nothing to do with ownership, that is governed by the state the company is incorporated in not the SEC. It only has to do with the ability to trade them on the open market. And since CMKX is revoked. Everyone now owns unregistered shares. It doesn't matter where you got the shares at this point, every share now is unregistered. All 703 billion shares. Because the registration was revoked. And just because the SEC revoked the registration, the shares are still real and we still own the company. Again, registration only deals with buying and selling not whether you own the company or not. The 633b the SEC uses is only for court filings for past selling of unregistered shares when the stock was trading. If Urban and Edwards would have let those shares meet S-Regs restriction rules there would have been no problems here for them. Think of it as a house. If a Realtor sells you a house and it is later learned that the Realtor wasn't licensed to sell homes, you still own the home but the Realtor is in deep trouble. The house is not any less real just because the Realtor wasn't licensed to sell it. Of course you can sue the Realtor if you find out there was trouble with the home but like CMKX, the person has to have something worth going after. « Last Edit: Today at 4:21am by Ric » Ric Executive Administrator Re: 633b unregistered shares are they real...yes « Reply #1 Today at 2:13am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now if the company wants to claim there are some shares out there that were illegally issued then that is an entirely different matter. And it wouldn't matter if they were shares considered as registered or unregistered. If shares were given to someone that shouldn't have got them and they waited two years and had the s-reg restriction lifted then those shares would have been considered registered shares during trading. Of course once revoked then they became unregistered again. But that has nothing to do with how they were issued and whether the company would want to go down that road of trying to cancel them if they did get out on the market. Not to worry though. They never planned on canceling any shares. They will be gone soon with a lot of broken promises and false statements going unanswered. cmkxclubhouse.proboards76.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2479
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Post by speedomodel on Mar 17, 2009 12:16:46 GMT -5
:)speedo, agree with single...ALL assistance appreciated! thanks Sooner and Single. if i see something interesting i will share it. i would like to tell both of you angels that you have done more to keep share holders united through all the work, time and passion you put into making this forum interesting. every morning, day or night when i read the board, there are always 15 to 20 people viewing it! so many of us are desperate for information, it's so very sad. anyway you two are like glue that has helped keep whats left of the share holder base stuck together. your work is appreciated by all of us for keeping us united. if i had it my way the two of you would be getting a salary instead of mark falk. youve done more to deserve it. THANK YOU.
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 17, 2009 13:04:23 GMT -5
By: aladin99 17 Mar 2009, 09:44 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817674 of 817717 Jump to msg. # In order for us to get paid... these companies must survive... 1> AIG(insurer) 2> C/BAC/GS/JPM/WFC(NSSellers) 3> CMKX(NSS victim) Believe it or not!!!!!!
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 17, 2009 13:06:02 GMT -5
By: aladin99 17 Mar 2009, 09:15 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817672 of 817717 (Reply to 817670 by ravenpeach1) Jump to msg. # GM Raven!!!!!Happy St Patrick's Day! AXP deal with C coming according to Meredith Whitney just heard that on Bloomberg radio.... By: ravenpeach1 17 Mar 2009, 09:43 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817673 of 817717 (Reply to 817672 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # Aladin.... Really, now there is a new image.... I will go and read about it..... Do people in the world know that when they use their card, 4%, only 1-2% for other cards, of the amount charged is charged to the store. Yes people get free miles, but in the long run they have to pay more for merchandise..... because the stores will have to raise prices to pay for the card charges..... Now I know why there are so many banks..... these little cards we use are not just a convenience, they are money making scams for the owners.... I can't believe they are not free to use.... for all.... Providers should not be able to make as much money as the states and local locations taxes... So in essence, the people who use sky miles, the rest of us are paying for them..... because of the card usage.... vicious circle... Well, there is my two cents worth... Those are the real scammers.... they steal from us all.... and we let them.... We love those little cards..... but.... we are paying a high price to enjoy them. We just don't see the charges, they are in the prices of the goods.... God Bless Aladin.... Have a Great Green Day..... Ravenpeach By: aladin99 17 Mar 2009, 09:52 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817675 of 817717 (Reply to 817673 by ravenpeach1) Jump to msg. # Raven - I know...but somehow AIG C AXP CKMX survived... )) By: ravenpeach1 17 Mar 2009, 09:55 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817677 of 817717 (Reply to 817675 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # Aladin.... Those little details... As they say, "All in the details" Enjoy... God Bless Ravenpeach
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Post by eastcoastswing on Mar 17, 2009 13:06:51 GMT -5
OK we are coming up on one year from when the SEC put out cases..April 7th is the anniversary date..
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 17, 2009 13:09:44 GMT -5
By: aladin99 16 Mar 2009, 09:31 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 817615 of 817717 (Reply to 817612 by kashman9) Jump to msg. # Kashman - NSS mentioned here... www.ici.org/fcr/08_market_interventions.html By: aladin99 17 Mar 2009, 04:41 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817658 of 817717 (Reply to 817623 by joesixpack333) Jump to msg. # Joesixpack - Thanks and Now we all should know that Paulson/Bernanke were right... about AIG...Bond trading, stock trading, mortgages lending that banks do do need to have insurance when they Fail To be Delivered, if we did/do not bailout AIG all banks would collapse just like other insurance companies...Remember dozen of insurers went bankrupt after Hurricane Andrew's 1992 and Hurricane Katrina's 2005. We only know 700B package from Bush's administration and $787B from Obama's administration but TRILLIONS went poof behind the scenes like $306 billion for C...never disclosed to public. Recently, you see bad banks like C, BAC...become good banks in a day and the government can not explain it to the public. I believe when their FTD problems are being taken care of they become good banks overnight. Citigroup - Federal Assistance Package * November 23, 2008: Treasury, Federal Reserve and FDIC announce agreement with Citigroup to provide a package of guarantees, liquidity access, and capital: * Treasury and FDIC to provide protection against "possibility of unusually large losses" on approximately $306 billion of loans and asset-backed securities that will remain on Citigroup's balance sheet. Citigroup to issue preferred shares to each agency. * If necessary, Federal Reserve will backstop residual risk in the asset pool through a non-recourse loan. * Treasury, through the Troubled Asset Relief Program, to invest $20 billion in Citigroup, in exchange for preferred stock paying an 8% dividend. Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Guarantee * Treasury guarantees outstanding debt of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on September 7, 2008 when both agencies were placed in conservatorship by the Federal Housing Finance Agency. www.ici.org/fcr/08_market_interventions.html By: joesixpack333 17 Mar 2009, 10:05 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817678 of 817717 (Reply to 817658 by aladin99) Jump to msg. # aladin.. no problem.. and this makes for an interesting read also.. I can't verify the accuracy of it.. but it seems to fit considering what is happening around us and what is going on in NY.. blogs.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel By: aladin99 17 Mar 2009, 10:32 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 817679 of 817717 (Reply to 817678 by joesixpack333) Jump to msg. # Joesixpack - Good read and I was wondering why the Madoff's two sons turned him in....your info. says a lot!!!!!!
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