Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 22, 2017 12:55:30 GMT -5
portrush
Administrator
Buzzzz chat .... May 2017 & on --------> yesterday at 8:21am
Treadstone, diamondcg, and 25 more like this
Post by portrush on yesterday at 8:21am
Do you follow politics much? Especially current politics. It seems the political sport is to accuse someone of something outrageous and pile it on heavy in order to get some desired result. Like...accuse a guy of Russian collusion to force an FBI investigation, minimalize his presidency, get people to question their loyalty and force him out, or at least insure he can't come back for a second term. All based on speculation without a shred of tangible truth. The hysteria builds among the gullible and those who know better, or at least know their scheme, revel in the damage.
If Hodges was out to steal that which hasn't been proven by anyone all these years, would it...could it be done under the obvious watchful eye of the DOJ/FBI who have been in the midst of an investigative criminal trial nearly all this time? Really? Would SK, who has shown himself to be a bulldog about the rumor of a Trust yet hopes to build some oil empire not rant and raise flags if there was a slight sliver of truth to this rumor? If Hodges and Cottrell had the slightest intention of such, would they wait twelve years to do so? Or as someone wisely pointed out, provide their address and phone number in communication? If not for you, certainly for authorities.
I suspect it is someone or a bunch of someones looking to incite something in hopes of getting Hodges to come defend himself and then pounce hoping to extract some measure of "proof" to clear his name in their precious sight and provide some secret they can further manipulate to their advantage. I anticipate it to be a failing task, but I sent him a note to his private number and will let you know if he responds. He might not. I wouldn't. I kinda hope he doesn't, because I think this rumor is silly.
This same comment has been made about Frizzell and Kirkpatrick repeatedly...they're out to steal everything. Equally ludicrous to my thinking for the same reasons I've expressed. I believe it is fueled by desperation and frustration, some of which is understandable after all these years--but like most everything CMKX, steeped in unfounded speculation dipped in salacious rumor and spread liberally to incite confusion in hopes of a desired reaction.
As for all the guru-ness of late, I'm of the opinion it is to seek attention and build a following for ego sake as much as anything. Most likely don't know if they're scratching their fanny or winding their watch. It's just guessing and guessing has a track record in CMKXnation. Making definitive statements like "those defending Hodges are making money" or "it's obvious the Trust was stolen" are silly and baseless...perhaps intended to stir the pot under the misdirected thinking that stirring produces results. Have you ever seen a "stir" drop a provable fact into the mix? Me neither. Yet I have empathy because I've been here just as long, know the same story, been dealt the same blow, have the same frustration and equally important desire.
Regardless, I just wait for the end of the trial because it's the only verifiable tangible associated with our journey and anything else by way of action is folly. Either due to expense or lack of access to info. If the trial ends with nothing for shareholders and a dead end at that...then I'll get emotional. But I can't see the DOJ segregating the shareholder list for "nothing."
My feeble thoughts, fwiw. Your opinion may differ.
pr
bingo123
DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Buzzzz chat .... May 2017 & on --------> yesterday at 11:35am
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I agree on the end of the trial aspect. It is a real tangible thing. I just hope it ends fast, but we have seen the lack of urgency involved there for whatever reason. The lack of urgency has been so odd that it tells me something else must be going on behind the scenes.
I remember the "doj segregating the shareholder list" thing, but I can't remember where that was written. I would like to read that again. Do you know where that was posted? Have a link to it or a copy and paste to it maybe? Thanks.
portrush
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Buzzzz chat .... May 2017 & on --------> yesterday at 12:01pm
drchicostat, rockman, and 2 more like this
Agreed...its the extreme lack of urgency--even on the part of Edwards having been in jail for 7 years(?) without a trial yet. Baffling. Anyway...there is nothing in print that I'm aware of regarding segregation--only the recordings of the SK webinars in which he has made the statement a couple times now. Many disregard them and subsequently miss these things. Given he has always asserted there is "no money coming" and now acquiesces (albeit cautiously and without commitment) that the Gov has indeed segregated to the point of declaring which are harmed and which were not for the intended purpose of distributing "something" ...it appears therein is some form of closure pending. Furthermore, SK staunchly defends the notion that when any remuneration comes it should be dispensed in accordance with share count rather than divided equally among shareholders--a point I agreed with him on as the only equitable solution. I say with confidence, I don't believe SK of all people would make such a statement if he wasn't fairly certain of its accuracy lest it open Pandora's Box to a regrettable degree.
It just has to happen first.
You'll find the links to the recorded webinars on the CMKM/NHHI website.
pr
Administrator
Buzzzz chat .... May 2017 & on --------> yesterday at 8:21am
Treadstone, diamondcg, and 25 more like this
Post by portrush on yesterday at 8:21am
Do you follow politics much? Especially current politics. It seems the political sport is to accuse someone of something outrageous and pile it on heavy in order to get some desired result. Like...accuse a guy of Russian collusion to force an FBI investigation, minimalize his presidency, get people to question their loyalty and force him out, or at least insure he can't come back for a second term. All based on speculation without a shred of tangible truth. The hysteria builds among the gullible and those who know better, or at least know their scheme, revel in the damage.
If Hodges was out to steal that which hasn't been proven by anyone all these years, would it...could it be done under the obvious watchful eye of the DOJ/FBI who have been in the midst of an investigative criminal trial nearly all this time? Really? Would SK, who has shown himself to be a bulldog about the rumor of a Trust yet hopes to build some oil empire not rant and raise flags if there was a slight sliver of truth to this rumor? If Hodges and Cottrell had the slightest intention of such, would they wait twelve years to do so? Or as someone wisely pointed out, provide their address and phone number in communication? If not for you, certainly for authorities.
I suspect it is someone or a bunch of someones looking to incite something in hopes of getting Hodges to come defend himself and then pounce hoping to extract some measure of "proof" to clear his name in their precious sight and provide some secret they can further manipulate to their advantage. I anticipate it to be a failing task, but I sent him a note to his private number and will let you know if he responds. He might not. I wouldn't. I kinda hope he doesn't, because I think this rumor is silly.
This same comment has been made about Frizzell and Kirkpatrick repeatedly...they're out to steal everything. Equally ludicrous to my thinking for the same reasons I've expressed. I believe it is fueled by desperation and frustration, some of which is understandable after all these years--but like most everything CMKX, steeped in unfounded speculation dipped in salacious rumor and spread liberally to incite confusion in hopes of a desired reaction.
As for all the guru-ness of late, I'm of the opinion it is to seek attention and build a following for ego sake as much as anything. Most likely don't know if they're scratching their fanny or winding their watch. It's just guessing and guessing has a track record in CMKXnation. Making definitive statements like "those defending Hodges are making money" or "it's obvious the Trust was stolen" are silly and baseless...perhaps intended to stir the pot under the misdirected thinking that stirring produces results. Have you ever seen a "stir" drop a provable fact into the mix? Me neither. Yet I have empathy because I've been here just as long, know the same story, been dealt the same blow, have the same frustration and equally important desire.
Regardless, I just wait for the end of the trial because it's the only verifiable tangible associated with our journey and anything else by way of action is folly. Either due to expense or lack of access to info. If the trial ends with nothing for shareholders and a dead end at that...then I'll get emotional. But I can't see the DOJ segregating the shareholder list for "nothing."
My feeble thoughts, fwiw. Your opinion may differ.
pr
bingo123
DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Buzzzz chat .... May 2017 & on --------> yesterday at 11:35am
drchicostat and rockman like thiS
I agree on the end of the trial aspect. It is a real tangible thing. I just hope it ends fast, but we have seen the lack of urgency involved there for whatever reason. The lack of urgency has been so odd that it tells me something else must be going on behind the scenes.
I remember the "doj segregating the shareholder list" thing, but I can't remember where that was written. I would like to read that again. Do you know where that was posted? Have a link to it or a copy and paste to it maybe? Thanks.
portrush
Administrator
Buzzzz chat .... May 2017 & on --------> yesterday at 12:01pm
drchicostat, rockman, and 2 more like this
Agreed...its the extreme lack of urgency--even on the part of Edwards having been in jail for 7 years(?) without a trial yet. Baffling. Anyway...there is nothing in print that I'm aware of regarding segregation--only the recordings of the SK webinars in which he has made the statement a couple times now. Many disregard them and subsequently miss these things. Given he has always asserted there is "no money coming" and now acquiesces (albeit cautiously and without commitment) that the Gov has indeed segregated to the point of declaring which are harmed and which were not for the intended purpose of distributing "something" ...it appears therein is some form of closure pending. Furthermore, SK staunchly defends the notion that when any remuneration comes it should be dispensed in accordance with share count rather than divided equally among shareholders--a point I agreed with him on as the only equitable solution. I say with confidence, I don't believe SK of all people would make such a statement if he wasn't fairly certain of its accuracy lest it open Pandora's Box to a regrettable degree.
It just has to happen first.
You'll find the links to the recorded webinars on the CMKM/NHHI website.
pr