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Nov 19, 2017 10:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by ivegotanace on Nov 19, 2017 10:56:00 GMT -5
Maya DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Will Al tell us when we will be paid in this years update? about an hour ago seagull likes this It's funny to see how people believe what they want. Al supported the Maheu/sting/trust storyline more than once including in his court case and in this quote I posted on this thread: "I further understand that the packages remain ready for immediate distribution as soon as Global Intelligence determines, and/or is advised, that such distribution is approved." I understand many want to trust Al over Acca and they also want the bigger numbers to be real as well. We will believe what we want until the packet arrives and even then if the number is below expectations some will believe more is coming down the road after the dollar becomes "asset backed" or most of the money was stolen. LOL Cheers If there is a packet distribution made to the CMKM Shareholders I would think that this would only occur one time. It is very costly to arrange a distribution of this size 40,000+... Hopefully one day in the next 2 years we are plesently surprised with a packet. It would be amazing to receive such after waiting 14 years. I don't have any grand children yet but one is expected to arrive in April. Anything in regards to a huge ROI would be greatly welcomed and appreciated at this time ;-)
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Post by vulcanized crawler on Nov 19, 2017 15:26:40 GMT -5
i would want my pieces of eight and dabloons stacked neatly in rolls of a million and about 6 foot high so that all will fit in my swimming pool for safe keeping. black friday is good for me
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 27, 2017 16:18:33 GMT -5
Nov 25, 2017 at 3:01pm Maya said: For me the hope is as real if not more so as it was at the beginning of this journey. IMO everything fits a pending substantial ROI arriving in 2018. "Everything" includes the long wait and the lies we have endured. Soon was the "too good to be true" part of the CMKX saga. Maybe Robert Maheu could have shortened the wait but maybe not. I think there is a 2018 payout plan and I am waiting for the court case to end before I start loosing sleep anticipating a packet.That's my plan.LOL Cheers
elmarco DIAMOND JEDI CMKX shareholders were on the “right “ side of this trade from day one. The excessively long wait is unexceptable and Wrong . Stop trying to justify what the team has done to the shareholders. By holding back our money in the Trust for years, the Shareholders have been hurt/ damaged as much by the good guys as they have been by the original crooks.
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Post by cmkx4ever on Nov 28, 2017 0:05:28 GMT -5
People who have said that their sources said in 2005 that we would receive our packets by midnight, another time by Christmas, by next week, by etc etc etc. and each time I told them no way, no way no way. I've seen people come and go with all being dead wrong. Everytime I have seen traces of the truth that doesn't fit in with the shareholders "DREAM" only for a few on here to constantly blackball them. Who are these individuals that has made it their goal to keep lying with bs rumors to the shareholders. These individuals can say it all they want about 2018, when it doesn't happen are any of you going to call them out or are you going to accept their 2019 rumors?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 29, 2017 10:18:00 GMT -5
cfdtrk35 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Buzzzz chat .... Sept 2017 and on ------> 21 hours ago nada999999, TazGhost, and 3 more like this Post by cfdtrk35 on 21 hours ago
Direct deposit all funds to Transfer Online . Give each account / shareholder of record an access number to withdraw shares physically or electronically to their own individual safety deposit box in bitcoin ... Bypass the banks ...??
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 1, 2017 17:57:51 GMT -5
richfree DIAMOND JEDI Hoping , After We Receive our Denouement.. yesterday at 2:26pm Fasttrackermo and touchscreen like this Post by richfree on yesterday at 2:26pm
That we may still have a shareholder gathering....I think we are close. Things do seem to be lining up. I was frustrated with Trump early on just because of my lack of patience. However in order to have the transitions that are occurring all around us require some serious conditioning of the atmosphere. When Hillary is arrested the populace will be able to handle it because all of the other daily Big Dawgs (ie..Lauer, Rose, Simmons, Rivera, Weinstein) that are going down it is all a part of the process. The continued updates on Bitcoin and other blockchain currency is setting the table for a different currency that will allow us to receive our Asset backed denouement,
brushmouth DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Hoping , After We Receive our Denouement.. yesterday at 5:01pm Treadstone, RoughCut, and 8 more like this
Sounds like a great idea, fun to place names with real people. I am not sure even President Trump realized how stagnant and putrid those swamp waters are. Prey for his safety as only divine intervention can protect him as evil is exposed and dealt with. Been a long journey, hope to see the end while still on the green side of the sod and time to do some good. C U all at the party ? BF BM
hacksawjim DIAMOND DIGGER Hoping , After We Receive our Denouement.. 14 hours ago Treadstone, gangusgreen, and 5 more like this Post by hacksawjim on 14 hours ago
i'm confident my NDA will "suggest" i don't speak about cmkx.
and if i'm in a room with a group of like-minded-just-got-paid cmkx shareholders... surely we will talk about the one thing we all have in common.
and unless there is a way to guarantee the staff around us at said event are all deaf... i'm not attending.
i may not say anything out loud... you may not say anything out loud.
but I'm not going to risk losing everything through "guilt by association".
perhaps I'm being paranoid... I won't know until i see the NDA.
imo hack
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Now What?
Dec 1, 2017 21:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by ivegotanace on Dec 1, 2017 21:59:15 GMT -5
richfree DIAMOND JEDI Hoping , After We Receive our Denouement.. yesterday at 2:26pm Fasttrackermo and touchscreen like this Post by richfree on yesterday at 2:26pmThat we may still have a shareholder gathering....I think we are close. Things do seem to be lining up. I was frustrated with Trump early on just because of my lack of patience. However in order to have the transitions that are occurring all around us require some serious conditioning of the atmosphere. When Hillary is arrested the populace will be able to handle it because all of the other daily Big Dawgs (ie..Lauer, Rose, Simmons, Rivera, Weinstein) that are going down it is all a part of the process. The continued updates on Bitcoin and other blockchain currency is setting the table for a different currency that will allow us to receive our Asset backed denouement, brushmouth DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Hoping , After We Receive our Denouement.. yesterday at 5:01pm Treadstone, RoughCut, and 8 more like thisSounds like a great idea, fun to place names with real people. I am not sure even President Trump realized how stagnant and putrid those swamp waters are. Prey for his safety as only divine intervention can protect him as evil is exposed and dealt with. Been a long journey, hope to see the end while still on the green side of the sod and time to do some good. C U all at the party ? BF BM hacksawjim DIAMOND DIGGER Hoping , After We Receive our Denouement.. 14 hours ago Treadstone, gangusgreen, and 5 more like this Post by hacksawjim on 14 hours agoi'm confident my NDA will "suggest" i don't speak about cmkx. and if i'm in a room with a group of like-minded-just-got-paid cmkx shareholders... surely we will talk about the one thing we all have in common. and unless there is a way to guarantee the staff around us at said event are all deaf... i'm not attending. i may not say anything out loud... you may not say anything out loud. but I'm not going to risk losing everything through "guilt by association". perhaps I'm being paranoid... I won't know until i see the NDA. imo hack What party are you guys talking about?? How would I get a notification of being paid if it really were to finally hapen? I've moved 5 times in the past 6 years lol
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 5, 2017 9:32:43 GMT -5
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Dec 5, 2017 9:40:27 GMT -5
Good Morning Single.. Well done..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 11, 2017 12:22:01 GMT -5
ChuckWheat DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD= Proof of Al's imminent payday Dec 9, 2017 at 3:11pm diamonds4all, TazGhost, and 8 more like this Post by ChuckWheat on Dec 9, 2017 at 3:11pm
May our anticipated update be the last one...transparent, independently verifiable, in clear language, and most important...conclusive.
C-Dub
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 16, 2017 0:15:40 GMT -5
10 hours ago sptrader said:
All we need is the payout date and amount Please.
"Dinarchronicles.com/intel", is Al's source, Really ?
I hope Al Hodges has a more "substantial" Chrismas message for us, in the next week or so. glta jmho
hacksawjim DIAMOND DIGGER An email from Al Hodges about an hour ago
he was referencing an article/post written by a client (and a dear friend)... who happens to be a substantial investor in CMKX... and a large currency holder.
he also agrees with the belief (of said friend) that we are about to be paid (for the record)
if you want to poo poo the website... go ahead... but methinks you're missing the point.
imo
hack .
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 27, 2017 17:12:37 GMT -5
ChuckWheat DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD The Truth about disgust . . . about an hour ago JudoJack likes this Post by ChuckWheat on about an hour ago
Thank you for your kind words, Hurtsogood...as far as alternatives to the US greenback, I think we're doing a lot of leaping before looking at what possible consequences may follow...I see very little consideration about how it would affect Americans, or what do we do if we don't like the conversion. I'd like to see a gold standard returned, but again with full knowledge of what that means to ordinary people...and perhaps coupling it with a balanced budget amendment
I too believe there is corruption, lies, and FWA (fraud, waste, and abuse) throughout government, and that much of it is orchestrated. I want to see it removed, but I also want safeguards put in place (like term limits, and a completely independent, non-partisan investigatory body that can also investigate and prosecute high-level law enforcement and government leadership when they choose to do things contrary to national interests).
Finally, as an individual and professional Mr Hodges has my respect...I don't diminish his professional accomplishments, his legal knowledge, and the extensive financial, time, and energy investments he's made toward CMKX...they are substantial and good for the community.
My larger issue lies with the idea that we in this community are responsible for being unhappy about being told things that history shows are incorrect before they are even stated. I think Mr Hodges means well, and there's more than a strong probability that he believes what he tells us...but he also should understand that a consistent string of false starts over a seven year period doesn't create a strong case for him having great/credible/well-intentioned sources.
Clearly he feels an ethical or legal binding to not disclose detailed information that gives him those beliefs, and I respect those boundaries. But while he is basking in the warm knowledge that "we won" because of that information, the rest of us are left outside in the cold with only an unsubstantiated statement of belief...is it kinder to not boast of that warmth, if he can't actually share it in a way that would bring comfort to us as well? Or should we be expected to sit in our snow drift, waiting for some scrap to be tossed to us in the form of an annual update that we already know won't provide that comfort?
My greatest wish, year over year, is that my growing concerns over whether this is real or not are unfounded...that you and I and the rest of our community finally see the fruition of all these stated beliefs. Short of that, I believe that we are doing Mr Hodges (and all others making unsubstantiated claims) a disservice by not helping them see we may have varying education levels, but we're not stupid...you can only state you believe something that ended up wrong so many times before it starts begging reasonable questions...
I hope this observation helps our visionaries realize we're not their virtual ant farm to be poked and prodded. We're not obtuse enough to think the only newsworthy events leading to our payment just happens to occur around the year-end holidays...we're not so short-attention spanned that we don't remember how a "glitch" from a year ago put the brakes on the cascade of events that should have led to our payments...and we are quite capable of recognizing that using legalese intentionally toward non-attorney types is a great way to hide true meaning while giving an appearance of telling them something potentially meaningful.
Perhaps my "say what you mean, mean what you say" upbringing is coming into play here...and part of me realizes that perhaps it's unfair of me to expect others to think and act similarly. But that's who I am, for better or worse...I see my first loyalty to this community to help us either get paid, or learn the truth finally.
And that's what I'll do as long as I believe either outcome is attainable.
C-Dub
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 5, 2018 12:31:19 GMT -5
Fellow Travelers, I've floated the idea in the past that if we want different results, we need to try different approaches. I get that we have a generally lukewarm reception to that idea...but I do ask for your kind attention for at least the rest of this post. I invite you to stop for a moment and look around you, here within the overall 2017 CMKX community. Overall board participation rates are lower than I can recall ever seeing them. Many among us are suffering; some of our fellow shareholders have lost much along this journey, including spouses, parents, children, friends, marriages, and financial security. Many more suffer chronic health troubles, some are alone save for these communities. Regardless we're all more than a decade older, and with the passing of that decade, we've lost that decade we could have used to help others, including our families. In short, we are a distressed community. The most significant thing holding us together is hope, even those of us who post observations some find "negative"...we all have needs we believe this journey can deliver. But at some point and in some way, we have to reconcile the truth of our journey...encouraging words are plentiful, shareholders are diminishing, and results (as of this writing) are absent.
So I beg your indulgence for a moment longer, as we transition from 2017 to 2018...every year since our 2005 revocation we've simply gone through this annual transition, waiting, watching, and wishing for our grand conclusion, only to end up disillusioned, disappointed, and diminished. We need something to change to transform wishful thinking into a new reality. Some hate the idea of holding people who consistently tell us things that repeatedly prove wrong accountable...I can accept that. But we really should know by now that doing what we've been doing up to now isn't changing anything to our advantage too. So what I ask of you is: What you really want for 2018 that differs from 2017 or before? According to dictionary.com, a "sea change" is defined as "...a striking change, as in appearance, often for the better.". For purposes of this thread I'd define a "lane change" as merely transitioning from one place (a lane, 2017) to another (a new lane, 2018). We don't need to do much of anything to change lanes...simply nudge the wheel, and away we go. But enjoying a sea change requires our attention, a recognition of the differences between the prior and desired states, and putting ourselves in a position to enjoy the change. Put more succinctly: We already know what we have to do to make the upcoming 2018 year look like 2017 or earlier...just keep doing what we've done for 13 years+ running. If we want a chance at a different outcome, we need to change our value in the equation. I've already stated above that some didn't like my idea I've advanced several times over the last few years...I accept that. But again, look at our community...can you look past the letters forming words on a message board to understand we have people who have contributed and fought for our positive outcome that are dying off, or lost spouses along the way? Is it really OK to say to them that their suffering is less than important than our need to "not rock the boat" so we can get paid someday later, after they are just a memory? What if some others among us get a diagnosis that will be terminal unless funds are found immediately...what if (God-forbid) it is you, or someone very close to you? Would more foot-dragging and stable boating really seem so inviting, so as long as everyone else gets paid five years from now? What do you propose the shareholders can do in 2018 to help get any funds released, to help those among us who are suffering?I sincerely hope for serious responses and ideas, because this is a serious topic to far too many we interact with and read each day. I equally hope 2018 will be a year of sea change for our community...this may be our last year we may be able to influence such an outcome with numbers large enough to make it happen. With Respects, C-Dub
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 8, 2018 14:42:25 GMT -5
abby52 DIAMOND DIGGER Post by abby52 on Jan 5, 2018 at 7:15am
Morning C-Dub,
How could we explain this to anyone who isn't up to speed with it? Mr. Hodges is a man of integrity, determined to do the right thing, who has invested an enormous amt of time and money. Does he know the truth? He has told us what he can in the past, and has gotten heckeled by other shareholders who didn't like what he said. We are not gullible, however. I would pay for 2 hours of his time, just for an insight as to what, where, why, who and when. Whatever he could yell me now. I feel someone needs to personally thank him for his efforts, and get his honest and professional opinion. fwiw
ChuckWheat DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD 2018 - Sea Change, or just a Lane Change...? Jan 5, 2018 at 12:08pm Soon, Marlboroman, and 1 more like this Post by ChuckWheat on Jan 5, 2018 at 12:08pm
Good morning Abby,
Thank you for your response. I think as a community we've all expressed our gratitude to Mr Hodges earnestly and deeply, myself included. Arguably he has done the most for us, except for maybe IBM.
I like the idea of a face-to-face with him. It could help answer some of our questions, and perhaps we could get some details that could justify further time investment on our part...my concern is that he has claimed client-attorney privilege in the past as a reason why he can't tell us more, and I'm not sure he could (or even should) be more forthcoming if it truly does require an ethical breach.
I think this helps create the problem we're all grappling with here...on one hand our most credible source tells us things that sound wonderful, but he can't give us the supporting details that culminate in the way he believes about CMKX. On the other hand, because we lack those details we can't determine independently if we've made progress, or even if anything about this adventure is actually real.
I've wondered from time-to-time if the shareholders could nominate a few representatives to meet with Mr Hodges, and discuss (under a NDA) in greater depth some of the supporting elements that make up his stated beliefs. By doing so we could have our own shareholder sources that have a far greater immersion into the inner-workings of this trip, and while their NDA would prevent them from talking about it in detail they could potentially answer the most pressing question of this milepost: Is this a wild goose chase, or does it appear we will be paid at some point?
This approach wouldn't tell us about a trust, how much was in it, if it is accumulating interest, is it well protected against internal/external threats, etc. But it would at least have the advantage of having people we've come to know and trust tell us their summary perspective after reviewing why Mr Hodges believes the way he does...and that could work to eliminate most of our current discussions about whether we should "believe" or not.
C-Dub
Jan 5, 2018 at 12:25pm Wembley said:
How long is everyone going to talk about Al Hodges.
He didn't put out a message this year. Who cares.
He is not the one pushing the button.
Mike
ChuckWheat DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD ***** Hey Mike,
He didn't, and it seems clear he's not the button pusher. So why does it matter to talk to/about Mr Hodges?
Because he's our closest link to IBM...he's the one who possessed enough information to make a Bivens run clear to the US Supreme Court...he's the main source who has talked to us about our pending hit that hasn't hid behind some anonymous third-party source.
For whatever reasons the depths of the disconnect between his beliefs and our realities needs to be plumbed, so we can move on with balance and from a basis of real knowledge.
If we take Mr Hodges and his contributions out of the equation, we are left with essentially a pit of conspiracy-theory quicksand sources that will tell us if the Pope sneezes it means UFOs will deliver our money by next Thursday, unless red tide appears in the Arctic Ocean shorelines before noon Monday...
Speaking just for me, I'm tired of the dog-and-pony show we've devolved into...I suspect you are too.
C-Dub
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 8, 2018 14:44:09 GMT -5
portrush Administrator ******* 2018 - Sea Change, or just a Lane Change...? Jan 5, 2018 at 4:28pm Treadstone, RoughCut, and 5 more like this Post by portrush on Jan 5, 2018 at 4:28pm
Solely in the spirit of helping folks manage their expectations...
Al has already met with some individual shareholders--members on this board you would know and perhaps respect, and another I know of who runs his own board. All have walked away saying pretty much the same thing; brilliant man, they respect him and are appreciative of his efforts--and most importantly for the purpose of this thread perhaps--his comments privately echo those he has made publicly. In the case of one, perhaps two--strict confidentiality was assured.
In fact, should you consult with SK he might tell you the same. Given the history of his webinar comments I'm sure he'd add an earful of "there is no Trust," "Hodges wasn't involved," and a sundry of things about his strong disbelief in any of the theories Al has stood by all these years. Just the same--the man he met and the comments he got, mirror those shared publicly.
Obviously for many...believing another is beyond their ability or willingness regardless of who says it. Yet there is a pattern clearly identifiable as it has been continuously formed over years and years. What he posts is apparently what he believes and what he says in private conversation. Believe it, or not.
pr
ChuckWheat DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by ChuckWheat on Jan 5, 2018 at 5:45pm
The core issue remains, a pattern (if you will) of unrealized statements of belief...we've been told things throughout the years, nearly all of which was conveyed with a pending sense of urgency, nearly none of which have come to pass.
In the absence of additional supporting information, we are building a faith-based house of cards, and it appears the most offensive form of heresay in this house is questioning vague statements about how close we are to payments that fail to materialize in the real world.
I'd like to hear from the man himself as to whether he'd meet with our chosen representatives to help substantiate his beliefs for the rest of us...from what I recall seeing on the boards it's been a while since those visits.
I get that you believe we're all solely responsible for being here...but how many of us would be here today if not for the statements of this man?
C-Dub
portrush Administrator *******
Most who are here would still be here. And these meetings I reference haven't been posted about on the boards, specifically.
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