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Post by Catdaddy on Jul 5, 2008 10:08:50 GMT -5
He's off by a decimal point. .0001 X 50,000% = .05 and not .005...pretty big difference, ie on 1 million shares the difference would be $50,000 vs $5,000. Whatever, right?! Later, Catdaddy
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 5, 2008 10:45:06 GMT -5
tuscansun DIAMOND JEDI Re: CMKM Diamonds Wins $33,675,365 Judgement!! « Reply #121 Yesterday at 1:33pm »
superfun
Bashers .. hired Hedgefund boyz .. would be told to sit here and befriend... others bash... others divert attention from anything to educate... while all along knowing they had a 2-3 year job that they could be assurred of ...
that time is about up now but, what was their job?
We have a choice coming if this is anything like Maheus other strategies... they threw CIM in the pot way back with the other divies that screwed up the negotiations immensely, imo, with the SEC/DTCC whoever...?
none of them would have wanted to negotiate a payout on CIM... well, sorry Hedgies... the Hedgefunds are now in deep trouble because there are enough CERTS in CIM sitting in the small blue collared hands to make the Hedgefunds puke.
THEY want in on the bottom level of the inside IPO day,.... and we got the goods.
They also may know that all the other shareholders are going to be asked if they want to chose to purchase some CIM for BEFORE IPO....
THAT is enough to make every Mrs Gotrocks scream ...'I want you to get me in this grand IPO I heard about ... you WILL get me some stock, wont you Ameritrade ' (or whoever)
NOW WHAT?
Thats what the Brokers/ Hedgefunds have to look forward to............paying big bucks for the shares that Mrs Gotrocks demands... and if by chance their hired hands on the boards.. the sneaky plants that have so-called befriended the shareholders the past few years DIDN't accomplish their job and most of the BONAFIDES dont tire out .. and the other shareholders BUY someof the CIM...........then shortie is royally in deep doo doo. THEY will be forced to buy Mrs Gotrocks some shares in their account on the OUTSIDE of the IPO..AFTER THE FACT !! woo hoo... and THAT friends is where the price goes sky high!
IF, they can place (plant) and they did... goofy hired hands to sit on the cmkm board for that exact day... to discourage, rant, whine, scare people into thinking it is a scam... tire the REAL shareholders out ... then when the OFFER finally arrives... they are in High Hopes that most shareholders will PASS on the ONGOING part of being with another COMMODITY offered ...
and woo hoo.........................the Hedge boyz WIN!
THAT is why we have people here in sneaky places... jerking people around... chasing them and wearing them down...
WELL, lets say they try.....................but some of us KNOW whats cooking and wont play with them..........................sorry charlie.... I AM a SHAREHOLDER of cmkm and CIM...........
and I wont wear down ! and I will BUY more ............if offered the chance...!!
Tuscan
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 5, 2008 10:47:42 GMT -5
eureka1968 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: CMKM Diamonds Wins $33,675,365 Judgement!! « Reply #123 Yesterday at 2:39pm »
Chris,
Things are not as they seem on the outside. The SEC has been leaving a papertrail of info for the public to see. They want this situation to appear like we were screwed and damaged so that they can look like our savior. I have one Savior and that is the Lord. The SEC will never publicise that they did not stop the counterfeiting of securities. The NSCC National securities Clearing Corp, subsidiary of the DTCC is the BUYER to All market participant sellers and the SELLER to All market participant buyers. Guaranteeing all trades. We WILL get what we are due at some point. Round and round it goes, where it stops NOBODY knows. stand firm and keep you're chin up.
Ciao
Eureka
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 5, 2008 10:50:59 GMT -5
genxer DIAMOND DIGGER Re: CMKM Diamonds Wins $33,675,365 Judgement!! « Reply #125 Yesterday at 8:34pm »
Actually there is are many reason to complain because i wasn't afforded to opportunity to participate and help fund some of the actions so i'm last in line. I would have been happy to help but only shareholders with blatantly obvious deep pockets were allowed to.
Why was there not a PR announcing this if it was to benefit all shareholders. Because they didn't want us to know about it.
I tend to agree with Ines, the 33 million will have money shaved off the top to pay those who financed this and they will be paid for their investment and get their money back as money that needs to be paid out. I just have always felt that the list of people allowed to participate was not formed equally. And part of the joke here is some of these folks were in @ .001 and rode it up to .001 when they were pumping in paltalk all day and we all were buying and they got their initial investment back with many of us old timers being bag holders.
I've often asked who would give up their law practice for a company with $500 in it and why. This is why. percent is $1.08 million.
The whole think stinks to me...always has. There is a clique running this and we are all not allowed to participate or benefit and it just blows.
And this sunshine and lollipop idea of of trading again. Try to get those certificates redeposited. They scared us all into pulling them if this trades again we are going to have a really hard time getting them to be redeposited. I've called three trading houses already and asked and NONE will take them back. GLTA, we may need it. So that puts all of of normal shareholders in a real pickle.I wonder if the people driving this train pulled all of theirs or left some in their brokerage accounts knowing what they were planning on doing. .
These are all things we'll never know the answer to and regardless of what we get out of this...rags or riches. I really things its bad that a small group took advantage and rode on the Joe average shareholders back.
And this is all just my opinion. (although i do know what it feels like to get screwed and this is starting to feel familiar)
tuscansun DIAMOND JEDI Re: CMKM Diamonds Wins $33,675,365 Judgement!!« Reply #135 Today at 1:01am »
genxer...........
exactly.............and that small group of whining Board 66 folks that took off and payrolled this Tyler hostage taking company just will be ramping up the bills to look as though we are reading a bill from the launching pad of one of the Rockets to the Moon.
They most likely have padded their books to make it appear they have bills out the wazoooooo and no one will be able to fight them or read the list of so-called expenditures....
or will they................? (lol)
sometimes perfect Justice IS found in the most unlikely places.... the Internet has surprised the old money people of the Rothchild's generation...and tipped the apple cart... and oh, those cell phones with camera's and video's are such a handy thing for entrapment of the first degree.....
I do hope Tyler is ready for a surprise.............'cause one is coming their way!
there is a list of those that was whispered behind the scenes...and the list has people on it that will wish they didnt have bragging rights. Sometimes people just talk to dang much and life catches up with them.
Tyler..........................take note... oh yeah, come to think of it.. you have your attorney planted here.
Tuscan
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 5, 2008 11:28:21 GMT -5
Yesterday at 12:52pm, 737man wrote: Chris, my opinion only, but turn things around a little. The markets were opaque by lack of enforcement for a reason; to hide the greed and shift debt to us little guys while the rich use our money to get richer, leaving us to pay their debt and follies. Status Quo until an 'activator' was added to the mix. Something precipitated this meltdown and it wasn't mortgages, performing or non-performing. They amount to 1.1% of the derivatives mess according to smart people and the banks still hold the properties with good value attached. Not buying it.
This problem is way more than just some Wall Street greedy idiots making bad decisions. Look at China revaluing their currency away from the dollar and shedding Treasuries. Good for them and trading goods and talk is from GS that it was done to work deals with US oil companies. They were the #2 holder of US Treasuries and as helicopter Ben keeps lowering rates, countries keep selling their dollar positions in favor of better returns.
During the Greenspan era and his cheap money, Wall Street was leveraging security positions more and more, chasing too few shares. You know what that did. Reg Sho, then the GF Clause slowly going away were not voluntarily implemented.
Cottrell told me almost 4 years ago that the Bretton Woods money being traded around the system would collide with nations wanting their piece of the derivatives pie to offset their dollar holdings crashing down around them as the FED says "the heck with the little guy and inflation, let's save our Wall Street buddies'.
International pressure against our corrupt government and FED started IOU's being called in. Coincidental with this was a trigger to start market corruption exposure and clean-up; assets had to be sold, $s' extracted from castles and chateaus, overseas accounts etc. It is cross-collateralized and we seem to be on the event horizon...now throw in Basel II compliance by August 29th for all books to be cleaned up, all the off-balance sheet trading must somehow come back to the books to be accounted for and taxed to cover IOU's which is why the August extension was given.
I believe our monies were extracted for certs already while the value of our potential minerals only multiplies...So much of this meltdown is hidden from view just as the off-balance sheet derivatives trading of $675 trillion on the OCC books is; just as the FED M3 money is yet we know they are doing it.
Just trying to put together why this meltdown was made to happen and it goes way beyond Wall Street. I think our tiny piece of the pie was put in the fridge a while ago, chilling...jmho...jeff
crispiolnu DIAMOND MINER Friend 737man;
Totally agree with you on everything.
A year ago since last August that are emerging in the world made strangers, and put the subprime as an excuse, the weaker dollar and climbing oil. We all know that none of that is 100% truth and the fact that the subprime, is not sufficient reason for a global financial collapse. 737man as you said, well subprime represents only 1% of the "losses" of banks, in quotation marks, that are never lost for the real estate provided this and the possibility of agreements with the mortgage always there. But hide serves a greater evil.
The weakness of the dollar is as a result of the balance of payments that U.S. government is interested to maintain a weak dollar to get more revenue and as a result it the escalation of oil to higher oil prices, higher payments in dollars.
In our benefit to shareholders of CMKX all this? Unfortunately nothing for the moment.
But if it is true that since August 15, 2007 (casual,je,je) GF law is repealed, and the creators of markets must cover their criminal excesses, WE MUST BE CMKX WITHIN WHICH ONE DAY HAVE THEIR REWARD.
When CMKX shareholder have their ROI ? , maybe two things can happen:
1 .- That this whole mess is resolved before the November elections, so that the new government emerges from elections between clean.
2 .- Let it be a new government who solve this whole mess.
I sincerely hope that I have made before November 11.
Good luck to all and happy holiday.
Cris
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 11:29:27 GMT -5
IceCrush Mod Squad Re: Naked Truth - "Spoiler" « Reply #3 Today at 11:16am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I believe what is being indicated through Mark is, early on, Urban had signed contractual agreements which he had to follow through on, not understanding how the situation was going to involve into naked shorting. This was backed up by John Martin's response to shareholders. Once Urban realized the implications of what he had signed, it was impossible to get out, because he'd be at risk and be implicated, now knowing who he was dealing with. (Boca bunch) IMHO, he then reached out quietly, to those who could rectify the situation and use it to the shareholders advantage, and get back what he had started, without losing everything. (that's why Maheu was at the party and Glenn was at the claims) I am assuming that there is something there to fight for, because otherwise, Urban would have just taken the easy road and we wouldn't have been any the wiser. He didn't have to bring other people into the situation, but he did. That, in my mind, is also another reason that we can't really know what's going on behind closed doors and why we wait. It seems a mess, and time is what is needed to sort it out. When we look at the moves Edwards took to steal money, and JMHO, but yes he would have to pay back some to Urban, hoping that Urban would stay happy and do nothing. (part of the contract) But, we now know Urban didn't 'do nothing".......because if he had, then we wouldn't be here, and the game would have been over long time ago. And, a class action against the company would have interfered with the plans of getting back our value. Thus, we see the promises made, but not kept by some. These are just my thoughts. www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com/documents/opp_to_motion_4-14-08.pdf millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=20807
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 5, 2008 11:37:56 GMT -5
in a nutshell....... seagull DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Well Moongoose... one thing for sure... I know that you as well as most of the shareholders are pretty nice people!! and some are grumpy as heck ... then there are the 'others' who are p@id pretending to be jerks but may not be... yet to do what they do day in and day out... can't be too wonderful.... And I do know that we have shown more patience and trust in this adventure over the past 4 yrs. than anyone could ever expect.... filled with hopes and dreams ... And I do know that we deserve more information... that I believe could have been given us... but they CHOSE not to
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 14:57:24 GMT -5
drillbit Diamond Finder and Miner Re: ALL PALTALK UPDATES HERE.. « Reply #86 Today at 12:29pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ABAD: "There are some very interesting rumors going around on pal talk. There is supposedly a source rumored to be very close to somebody in the government who is feeding information to one of the rooms. The Federal Reserve is supposedly trying to collect the rest of the funds from those who were responsible for NSS on CMKX, among other companies. This is the delay. Of course I have said that entities all over the world could have had an account with the DTCC and have use of the US Clearing System. So this rumor isn't a surprise. The rumor notwithstanding, as I have reported, the Federal Reserve and its stockholders, among others, are liable because the DTC is a member of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Reserve has oversight of the DTC... At some point, the regulators at the Federal Reserve should have noticed the alarmingly large balances of shorted securities. I'm trying to get the name of the government source now... but it is a little difficult." tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1267&page=5
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 15:00:38 GMT -5
jo Diamond Miner Re: CMKM Wins Judgement against Edwards « Reply #17 Today at 12:21pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yesterday at 2:47pm, faithandlogic wrote:Well, even if there wasn't any more money coming to the company.. By now, Kevin should already have plans as to what to do with the money.. So 33 million dollars spent on the right claim could make us all wealthy.. IMO Regarding money and shareholders, what exactly is our corporate structure these days? Are we bonafied shareholders of the NEW CMKM of Tyler? Or are we just shareholders of the totally naked shorted (or otherwise) CMKX of Vegas and old mgmt? Do we even have a legal connection tothe funds they bring in now? Are we a private company now? I don't think so, from what I have read on this subject..but I don't know..but Kevin does and Bill does.. We are looking like stepchildren these days, with no idea whether Step Daddy is going to include us in his will, or if our birth parent is still holding something for us in trust for the day we come of age.. I say "sting" but there may be more than one...does this part of the sting pay Tyler? cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=19955
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 15:04:21 GMT -5
tuscansun DIAMOND JEDI Re: Pal Talk rumors « Reply #12 Today at 2:48pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IF you pay out what you have..................... What LEVERAGE do you have left to get the rest......... The shareholders pitter patter away happy and thats that.......... LEVERAGE is people that are NOT paid... clicking keys and making noise. and don't be too sure its the ENTITIE perse... How about the part of the 'Entitie' that is NOT on the TAKE inside that 'Entitie... that is putting HIGH LEVERAGE on the Entire Entitie... (ABC..lol) and that LEVERAGE is saying that IF they dont all put the cash in the kitty SOON.... NAMES and IMMUNITY will not be withheld....................and do it SOON... or the info Gathered from the FEW GOOD MEN will BLAST the Highest of Names out, up front and Center and No One will get Immunity from the madness that they have committed for decades here and across the Pond to all corners of the Financial Globe. and that ain't no joke. its always been about NOT paying a penny until they can get the wringer wrung out.. and its not like bleeding a turnip...its the arrogant jerks that think they are ABOVE the Law...and they just found out they aren;t/ Indictments gonna fly.....................Arrests occuring............around the globe...and names you won't have to scratch your head wondering who that person is ! Tuscan millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=20811
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 19:49:38 GMT -5
pennypauly GC Mod
Re: Weekly Buzz - w/o 06.30.08 « Reply #22 Today at 4:46pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ty Mona Lisa Smiles
News from Wodan 4th of July weekend « Thread Started Today at 12:21pm »
Holiday Weekend...good news/thoughts from Wodan:
Fortis Banker says things with CMKX are looking very good. She said "You have to be patient. There is NO WAY OUT. We MUST and WILL get paid!" Be patient..good things come to those who wait.
Also he heard from the older man who is a contact in Belgium ( a private banker/investor). The man said that it could possibly take till Nov. of 2009, but it COULD HAPPEN at ANY TIME. He says BE PATIENT..wait,,,there is nothing we can do but the main thing is it's a LEGAL play and we WILL receive a very good ROI..just like we have been hearing.
Key is WE MUST be paid..they cannot forget us and it WILL HAPPEN.
CHEERS!
Got CMKX? ))))))))))
Mona
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 19:58:25 GMT -5
abadgoodgirl DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: News from Wodan 4th of July weekend « Reply #17 Today at 4:31pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2009?!%&*&^$ yeah right... the law suit against the Trustee will begin shortly. We know they collected money for the bona fide stockholders, the certed stockholders.. the trustee can distribute it. PERIOD. abadgoodgirl DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: News from Wodan 4th of July weekend « Reply #19 Today at 4:45pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't believe them.. they do not have any additional time. Obviously the holdouts are on borrowed time. The ONLY people who want more time are those that OWE money to the Federal Reserve for their illegal activities in our inadequate clearing system. So wodan's scenerio only benefits the shorts. Only Shorty wants until 2009 or 2010 and beyond... The longs will win and we have the right stuff...and our trustee better get his arse in gear..whoever it is. abadgoodgirl DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: News from Wodan 4th of July weekend « Reply #20 Today at 4:47pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now it becomes more clear about who is short and who is long. Those who want to be paid now are the real longs and those who say to wait, are on the wrong side of this investment. PERIOD. ming DIAMOND MINER Re: News from Wodan 4th of July weekend « Reply #26 Today at 5:47pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...any idea how long a lawsuit against the trustee could DELAY the ongoing process??? I understand that everybody needs money , and the waiting has indeed been excruciatingly long, but it is also realistic to accept that certain processes take time, much more than we like to. And now i'm a defender of the naked shorters i guess??? All this talk about a revolt could as well be a tactic from the shorters to delay what is coming their/our way. And no, miss abad, i'm not calling you a shorter, of course not. I do understand your point of view perfectly, but i sincerely think that the result of a lawsuit could be exactly the opposite of what you want. But if you really want to go that road, i wish you good luck...! millionaires.proboards86.com/?board=main&action=display&thread=20812&page=2
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 19:59:52 GMT -5
eureka1968 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: News from Wodan 4th of July weekend « Reply #34 Today at 7:35pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rancher, George Stevenson a director of The Owners Group Inc. told shareholders that money was collected from the Shorts for our certificates. Helen Bagley said if more shares were sold than there are Outstanding Shares then those that are short must buy certificates directly from the company. "Trillions of shares were sold to investors" Bill Frizzell said to Judge Murray millionaires.proboards86.com/?boa....ad=20812&page=2
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 20:02:31 GMT -5
portrush Mod Squad Re: News from Wodan 4th of July weekend « Reply #39 Today at 7:48pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 4:47pm, abadgoodgirl wrote: News August 15th, closure in September. Feel better? pr millionaires.proboards86.com/?boa....ad=20812&page=2
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 5, 2008 20:04:23 GMT -5
drillbit DIAMOND JEDI Re: Pal Talk rumors « Reply #23 Today at 4:34pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JMO, but I think the interpleader was done years ago and that these SOBs in the FED have had more than ample time to force payment! I am talking years and yes I believe that it is big but da'mmi't TIMES UP! NEVER for a second think that the US is still not THE place to invest! IF the FED demands payment on a global scale, then they have a hammer. I guess I am saying that the FED waiting on payment is bogus. No, I think the amounts are so large that some enity is gathering interest on the monies and dragging out distribution. Anyone have oil for a squeeky wheel? millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=20811&page=2
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