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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 5:04:34 GMT -5
By: deskpotato 14 Sep 2008, 10:35 PM EDT Msg. 765160 of 765204 Jump to msg. # trackeer1: remember wodan said our Conglomerates are worth trillions, and people laughed
By: deskpotato 14 Sep 2008, 10:37 PM EDT Msg. 765162 of 765204 Jump to msg. # trackeer1: mano said we would have to wait until just prior to our elections, i think he was correct
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 5:17:14 GMT -5
blu1236 Diamond Miner Done « Thread Started Yesterday at 11:16pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't agree with what has gone on in Texas. Maybe they feel it was right to keep shareholders in the dark. My legal council says if we can prove we have majority share it is their responsbility to communicate their intentions as to board decisions concerning the financial and structure of the company. Not only did we pay to have the issue of nss resolved or at least be known but we also called for certs to enable this procedure. the company is in a catch 22. They have to keep it quiet for their legal battles, I understand that. But many of us want this information known. I would rather pursue my own legal battles than trust a team that has absolutely no communication skills and totally indifferent to the plight of the shareholders. Something good may come of this someday. My feelings are if we knew the facts when they found them, 50 thousand shareholders would be very anxious to go after purps in force and major pressure could be enforced through the media. Taking this backdoors legalistic approach is an avenue I'm sure all lawyers would feel is the proper approach but it takes years and comes with many defeats and very expensive. If indeed we have a broken system and the public knew about it the problem would be investigated and fixed long ago with 50k shareholders down their backs and media all over this. The reason the media has not hit this is because there are no facts to back up the nss allegations. It's all hype so far. Proceedings may be moving along quickly but as I see it We are still several years out. The shareholders base will then ( especially considering the current change of leadership at Tyler)will then be only a few hundred and many shareholders will have ditched certs or closed accounts. Many have left now. I am considering tossing all my paperwork and certs myself. I have such a distaste for the junk coming from the company. Anything the company manages to gain back from losses will be a small fraction of what we invested. I've taken the same amount I invested in Cmkx and turned it into four times the value in one year in real estate development. Holding out for this is fruitless. Obviously the company cannot see what could be accomplished with the power of so many shareholders. They have managed to destroy the base and the very power they had at their fingertips- just did not understand how to use it through all their vast wisdom in the law. I've invested more than most into this, hence my strong feelings about being decieved. I've tried to help rally people together but it's too slow too late. A few connections might pan out to be fruuitfull wich I will pursue. Then: I'm done. Too much Faulk looking for fame and glory at our expense. Done here. blu cmkxunitedforum.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=13878
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 5:27:44 GMT -5
Oil.Ipo. DIAMOND JEDI Re: Tyler/Shareholders « Reply #31 Today at 5:04am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yesterday at 9:30pm, cynthiae45 wrote:Oil I am 100% behind you on that one. Hey cynthiae45; My point was that while Tyler has the master list, and who knows where they will get the cash - They are not the vehicle of the decade. CMKX, and OLD TEAM is the Naked Shorted Vehicle whose Shareholders of Record await Transparency, Settlement Offerings, Buy Out Monies(?), Rights Offerings, and Heritage Payments. Tyler Crew has never represented anything other than data, a shell, and now we can see them for what they truly are by their duly noted appointments. The SEC news today is presenting market reform... late, over do, but nevertheless an admission of wrong doing, and so my take is that our payment cannot be far from any "Tyler" offering if such a rumor materializes. When we receive our restitution payment(s) in the wake of so much carnage there will be no doubt in the eyes of any public that finds out - that we were victims of financial corruption. GO OLD TEAM!~ GO UC!~AIMHO2~ Oil millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=22024&page=2
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Post by eastcoastswing on Sept 15, 2008 9:56:32 GMT -5
Vanguard trying to supply certs « Thread Started Yesterday at 11:02am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't post because I don't get news other than what I read on this board. But, my brother-in-law who has 2.5 million shares was contacted by Vanguard and was told they are trying to get his certs. My brother-in-law had not requested his certs and this came out of the blue. They could be tying up loose ends or something might be happening. He called me and asked if I knew anything, and of course I didn't.
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Post by hundredtoone on Sept 15, 2008 17:21:09 GMT -5
9-15-08 afternoon WE understand your impatience. Silence is Golden..Especially when it's been requested by the right people. There WERE additional problems, however they have all been taken care of and the problems overcome. Deliveries are expected later today and into tonight. ( Monday) WE will fill in the blanks for you---> ELABORATELY--when given the green light to do so. www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1221513178...Fllying Moose(cmkxunofficial)
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Post by squeezebox on Sept 15, 2008 19:28:22 GMT -5
9-15-08 afternoon WE understand your impatience. Silence is Golden..Especially when it's been requested by the right people. There WERE additional problems, however they have all been taken care of and the problems overcome. Deliveries are expected later today and into tonight. ( Monday) WE will fill in the blanks for you---> ELABORATELY--when given the green light to do so. www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1221513178...Fllying Moose(cmkxunofficial) Who is this Casper clown? Does he just put out the bs of getting paid and then the next day will say there was a problem or Bush tried to steal the money or some crap like that? I have a hard time believing I will be worth 10's of millions of dollars tomorrow when lehman just went bankrupt and the stock market is down over 500pts. Hey Casper, quit the pump you jackleg!!!
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:45:10 GMT -5
pennypauly Mini Mod Re: the buzz 9/15 and beyond.... « Reply #4 Today at 12:15pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ty lowriderbill Re: What Could Tyler Think it Holds as a Ace? « Reply #14 Today at 9:09am » - Today at 9:02am, Ghost wrote: The story will be different when they R/S the situation. Small shareholders will get pennies... alas ! Lowriderbill With all due respect, I disagree. I believe that the certs you hold will entitle you to a buyback/conversion offer at some point. The offer will be based on your total shares, not a reverse split amount. Where we'll see the reduction in share structure moving forward is by how many shares are sold back and what the conversion ratio is to the new company. Lowriderbill « Last Edit: Today at 3:37pm by pennypauly » millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=22032
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:46:37 GMT -5
pennypauly Mini Mod Re: the buzz 9/15 and beyond.... « Reply #5 Today at 2:38pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ty lowriderbill Re: What Could Tyler Think it Holds as a Ace? « Reply #11 Today at 8:59am » Rhetorical questions... 1) What if the bankruptcy plan Moran had suggested was actually to eliminate electronic holders after the bonafide list was approved by a legal entity? 2) What if the bankruptcy plan included a provision for bonafide cert holders to receive an offer and/or conversion to a new company? 3) What if Tyler and/or it's affiliates held electronic shares that they couldn't obtain certs for and acquired the CMKM shell so they could have a means to trade these shares? 4) What if the selection of a new CEO and BOD, all friendly to Tyler, signifies that they'll move in their own direction with the electronics and unshareholders while bonafides follow the claims? All of the above support the notion that Tyler owns the majority of electronic CMKM shares and therefore can make decisions without bonafide shareholder approval. As we've discussed before, bonafides may not even be a part of the new CMKM and will become part of a conglomerate. Of course these are my opinions and time will tell the whole story... Lowriderbill Hey all pennypauly here
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:47:31 GMT -5
pennypauly Mini Mod Re: the buzz 9/15 and beyond.... « Reply #6 Today at 6:04pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TheRealJBond Re: SEPTEMBER 15th only Hours away « Reply #7 Today at 2:51pm » So today is the 15th and we saw a 503 Point Drop in the Market...Can you say EVENT?? OK LET THE MONEY COME NOW...WE ARE READY. millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=22032
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:48:29 GMT -5
pennypauly Mini Mod Re: the buzz 9/15 and beyond.... « Reply #7 Today at 8:17pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ty Lowriderbill All right, let's clarify my opinions and conclusions since several have emailed or PM'd and asked... An empty shell is suing the former insiders of the company essentially for misappropriation of company funds. This empty shell is still CMKM and the electronic holders are still tied to this company. The reason Tyler wanted the shell is so the electronic shares that were denied certs don't lose their investment. They're suing to return value to the company, develop a business plan, and trade again. IMO it's the bonafide shareholders only that will be a part of the new company, an entirely different entity from Tyler/CMKM. The bonafide list was approved by a legal entity which qualified the righteous and disqualified the unrighteous shares. If your broker didn't pay up or you were someone that didn't have the best interests of the company in mind, then you didn't become bonafide. This is where we tie into the original 14C shareholders. The DEF14C was essentially a private placement. These insiders purchased shares directly from the company, not from the open market. Each party was allowed to purchase up to 4.9% of the company's outstanding shares and collectively ended up owning 85.5% of the O/S at the time of the CMKI purchase. The way that John Edwards circumvented the 4.9% ownership limit was to open multiple accounts under multiple aliases, businesses, trusts, etc through NevWest. I don't believe any of the original 14C holders were friends of UC. They were friends of John Edwards and provided the necessary startup funds. I would speculate that any friends of UC have been invested long enough to take part in both CIM dividends. Yes, I believe these dividends will be the biggest part of the conversion to the new entity as well. Therefore, UC hasn't forgotten about hs friends. Let me make this clear. I don't believe UC himself has ever owned the O/S. Instead, a trust controlled by UC and/or affiliates held shares equal to or greater than the O/S is more correct. The trust was and had to be a vehicle separate from the company to facilitate a forced buy-in. Once the buy-in was complete, a legal body had to approve the bonafide list and the plan for these shareholders. I believe that plan is to offer a share buyback and/or a conversion to a new company. One has to understand that everything changed once the cert pull was finished and the company was handed over to Tyler. It was never taken over or transferred in a hostile way. It seems to me the plan was to get the bonafide list approved by a legal body and move forward, ending any responsibility to the electronic holders. This was the process of becoming bonafide. The company had already complied with Nevada statute by sending a letter to shareholders and publishing the newspaper ad requesting shareholders obtain certs. It is not the same a "making a bonafide market" as you suggest. IMO we will see the separation of bonafides and electronics when the buyback and conversion is announced or correspondence is received. I still believe in the value of the claims and that bonafide shareholders will follow. Some think I'm crazy for believing the things I do and for drawing the conclusions that I have. We'll just have to wait and see who laughs last. Have a good evening... Lowriderbill millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=22032
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:50:47 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 15 Sep 2008, 08:45 AM EDT Msg. 765218 of 765489 Jump to msg. # where did the SEC say there were 600b unregistered shares?
and how does the SEC separate those shares from our certs? or from TYLER?
how are our certs separate from TYLER?
are there two sets of 600b shares?
By: imsowearyi 15 Sep 2008, 08:48 AM EDT Msg. 765221 of 765490 (This msg. is a reply to 765218 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosie, 622B unregistered shares - and yes when I first called the sec - they couldnt tell me how they got the 622B number - I did find out that are shares are "SEPERATE"
By: goodolboy27 15 Sep 2008, 08:53 AM EDT Msg. 765226 of 765490 (This msg. is a reply to 765218 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen, the SEC filing stated AT LEAST 622 billion unregisters shares.
By: rosencrantz2010 15 Sep 2008, 08:57 AM EDT Msg. 765230 of 765491 (This msg. is a reply to 765226 by goodolboy27.) Jump to msg. # goodolboy27, holy cow! what a mess! so, on top of the 622b shares held in our certificates the SEC has to somehow disentangle the added mess of 622b unregistered shares that are floating around somewhere in the market?
By: imsowearyi 15 Sep 2008, 09:00 AM EDT Msg. 765233 of 765491 (This msg. is a reply to 765230 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosie, its 639B + 622B + what ever other shares Urbie and friends have
By: goodolboy27 15 Sep 2008, 09:08 AM EDT Msg. 765242 of 765491 (This msg. is a reply to 765230 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # No rosen, that's not the case. You and everyone else bought the unregistered shares.
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:55:07 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 15 Sep 2008, 09:02 AM EDT Msg. 765238 of 765491 (This msg. is a reply to 765232 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # let me get this straight. we all know CMKX investors have locked up 622b shares in the form of stock certificates. okay.
but now you are telling me that the SEC has come out and said that there is an additional 622b shares somewhere out there in the marketplace? how could that happen? and what does the SEC plan to do about it?!
this is outrageous! a crime has been committed and someone needs to pay!
By: imsowearyi 15 Sep 2008, 09:03 AM EDT Msg. 765240 of 765491 (This msg. is a reply to 765238 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosie - its 639B/cmkm investors
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:55:35 GMT -5
By: imsowearyi 15 Sep 2008, 09:02 AM EDT Msg. 765239 of 765491 Jump to msg. # dont forget - the company was asked "NOT" to file :-))) - now u know why
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:58:25 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 15 Sep 2008, 09:22 AM EDT Msg. 765248 of 765491 Jump to msg. # goodolboy, so how many shares do you think were sold into the market? 622b, or 2 x 622b?
certainly the shares backing our certificates are the good shares, right? the SEC wouldn't have allowed the transfer agent to send out official stock certificates based on phony shares!
that would surely be a crime on the SEC's part.
By: goodolboy27 15 Sep 2008, 09:25 AM EDT Msg. 765250 of 765491 (This msg. is a reply to 765248 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen, 703 billion, but I have a feeling a bulk of those will end up being canceled.
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Post by soonerlew on Sept 15, 2008 20:59:35 GMT -5
By: jboydwv 15 Sep 2008, 09:13 AM EDT Msg. 765246 of 765491 Jump to msg. # Fantastic news .. hopefully very telling .... By: seatech3 15 Sep 2008, 08:46 AM EDT Msg. 34031 of 34032 Jump to msg. # Thank You Congress For once now the execs get treated like all other businesses that go belly up. Now we just have to see if Lockhart does his job. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26715738/
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