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Post by soonerlew on Mar 24, 2009 7:23:12 GMT -5
By: superdave156 23 Mar 2009, 10:43 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 818947 of 818978 Jump to msg. # Link to latest claims maps? Does anyone have a good web link to the latest claims map that shows Shore Gold now having most of the old CMKX claims? Thanks, Super Dave By: aloha_joe2 23 Mar 2009, 11:11 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 818952 of 818978 (Reply to 818947 by superdave156) Jump to msg. # superdave156 -- interesting connection: Report on the Diamonds Exploration Potential of Five Properties in the Fort à la Corne area, Saskatchewan, on behalf of Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields Inc. Buckshot holdings Ltd. (50%) and Commando Holdings Ltd (50%) 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd. 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd. 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. Morgain Minerals Inc. by... P. Robertshaw, P. Geo. October 28, 2002 www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1092299/000111776803000002/report.pdf and... Phil Robertshaw, P.Geo. Geophysicist 111 Middleton Crescent Telephone (306) 374-3282 Saskatoon, SK. Canada Facsimile (306) 373-3135 S7J 2W5 phil@explorationGIS.com www.explorationgis.com/contact.html By: aloha_joe2 23 Mar 2009, 11:25 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 818955 of 818978 Jump to msg. # superdave -- check out slide 4... Hmmm... Presentation dated March 2009: www.shoregold.com/pdfs/SGF3Mar2009PDAC.pdf By: rosencrantz2010 23 Mar 2009, 11:34 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 818959 of 818978 (Reply to 818955 by aloha_joe2) Jump to msg. # yep, slide 4 is a good one - right side. compare that with the cmkx maps from 2004. |
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 24, 2009 7:25:29 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010
23 Mar 2009, 11:41 PM EDT
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SHORE GOLD was so lucky to get all of the old CMKX claims.
i wonder if anyone warned SHORE's management that the moose pasture that URBAN was calling "Project Surround" and was using to scam all those rednecks at the race tracks was worthless?
Poor SHORE GOLD. those guys got snookered and they are so stupid they even put a map of all that old CMKX claims property in their latest corporate powerpoint. LOL
poor stupid SHORE. all that money! all that time! and all for just a bunch of worthless moose pasture!!
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Post by soonerlew on Mar 24, 2009 7:26:36 GMT -5
By: monetaryshift
24 Mar 2009, 07:51 AM EDT
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aloha_joe2,
'all decisions have been made'
'shift time is here'
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Post by hundredtoone on Mar 24, 2009 12:44:32 GMT -5
By: adrienne07 24 Mar 2009, 01:12 PM EDT Rating: post rating 0 Msg. 819110 of 819112 Jump to msg. # ON BLOOMBERG THIS AFTERNOON Naked Short Sales Hint Fraud in Bringing Down Lehman (Update1) By Gary Matsumoto March 19 (Bloomberg) -- The biggest bankruptcy in history might have been avoided if Wall Street had been prevented from practicing one of its darkest arts. As Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. struggled to survive last year, as many as 32.8 million shares in the company were sold and not delivered to buyers on time as of Sept. 11, according to data compiled by the Securities and Exchange Commission and Bloomberg. That was a more than 57-fold increase over the prior year’s peak of 567,518 failed trades on July 30. The SEC has linked such so-called fails-to-deliver to naked short selling, a strategy that can be used to manipulate markets. A fail-to-deliver is a trade that doesn’t settle within three days. “We had another word for this in Brooklyn,” said Harvey Pitt, a former SEC chairman. “The word was ‘fraud.’” While the commission’s Enforcement Complaint Center received about 5,000 complaints about naked short-selling from January 2007 to June 2008, none led to enforcement actions, according to a report filed yesterday by David Kotz, the agency’s inspector general. The way the SEC processes complaints hinders its ability to respond, the report said. Twice last year, hundreds of thousands of failed trades coincided with widespread rumors about Lehman Brothers. Speculation that the company was being acquired at a discount and later that it was losing two trading partners both proved untrue. After the 158-year-old investment bank collapsed in bankruptcy on Sept. 15, listing $613 billion in debt, former Chief Executive Officer Richard Fuld told a congressional panel on Oct. 6 that naked short sellers had midwifed his firm’s demise. Gasoline on Fire Members of the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform weren’t buying that explanation. “If you haven’t discovered your role, you’re the villain today,” U.S. Representative John Mica, a Florida Republican, told Fuld. Yet the trading pattern that emerges from 2008 SEC data shows naked shorts contributed to the fall of both Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns Cos., which was acquired by JPMorgan Chase & Co. in May. “Abusive short selling amounts to gasoline on the fire for distressed stocks and distressed markets,” said U.S. Senator Ted Kaufman, a Delaware Democrat and one of the sponsors of a bill that would make the SEC restore the uptick rule. The regulation required traders to wait for a price increase in the stock they wanted to bet against; it prevented so-called bear raids, in which successive short sales forced prices down. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=819110...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial) |
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Post by squeezebox on Mar 24, 2009 13:58:16 GMT -5
The UPS truck just pulled up in front of my house, I actually thought that this could be it! He got out with small a package and walked across my lawn to the neighbors house, d*mn! Oh well, untill another day!
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Post by claypark on Mar 24, 2009 14:12:45 GMT -5
Snipped From the latest Report by Christopher Story in London.
March 24, 2009.
"Interestingly, by way of ‘blowback’ from this development, it was reported to the Editor at 5:00pm on Sunday 22nd March that President Obama had told associates words to the effect that ‘I don’t care whether it’s the fault of my Administration or the previous Administration [that the numerous overdue settlement payments have been held up]. It’s got to be done’.
This outburst was either staged (very possible) or else reflects a blazing row that appears to have taken place between President Barack Obama and Vice President, Joe Biden, who has completely discredited himself by actually authorising an operation to try to persuade us to publish certain information that would have assisted him inter alia at his then imminent appearance on behalf of the US Government at the World Court. Although this institution is anathema to Washington, the US Government cannot avoid dealing with it, as other countries use the Court to press their claims against a pariah country called the United States.
And indeed, during the same period, Vice President Biden was reported to have appeared at the World Court, where he was refused a hearing. Had the information that we were pressed to publish actually appeared on our website, we are told that the outcome might have been different.
The attempted Biden set-up involved us publishing a series of detailed known facts concerning the misappropriation (on 18th January 2009, immediately ahead of the Inauguration) of the CMKX $12.8 billion, which would have explicitly implicated George W. Bush Jr., George H. W. Bush Sr., Dr Alan Greenspan, and the Carlyle Group in the theft of the CMKX funds. Since certain elements of the proffered information could not be verified and the pressure to publish this was not only traced to the Office of the Vice President but we were expressly informed that Mr Joseph Biden wanted the information published, we declined to agree to this quite extraordinary request – a refusal which caused consternation and much anger all round.
Further, the Editor decided that the exceptional pressure that had been exerted upon Mr Cottrell, asking him essentially to ‘order’ the Editor to publish this material, constituted not only the exertion of unfair pressure on Mr Cottrell himself, but a gross infringement of the Editor’s right to decide precisely what and when he will publish: a view with which Mr Michael Cottrell, who had been most uncomfortable with the request, immediately agreed. In fact both parties simultaneously concurred that since neither was satisfied with the information, let alone the motives behind the request, the material could not be published without further clarification (which was not forthcoming).
At all events, it is understood that this refusal by the Editor caused much annoyance all over the place: and the reason soon became clear. Mr Biden’s reported foray to the World Court flopped, because whatever he was asking for (believed to entail blaming the previous Administration for the Obama Administration’s failure to date, to perform) simply wasn’t believed. Had we published what was proffered to us, the outcome might have been different.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:01:26 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010
23 Mar 2009, 11:41 PM EDT
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SHORE GOLD was so lucky to get all of the old CMKX claims.
i wonder if anyone warned SHORE's management that the moose pasture that URBAN was calling "Project Surround" and was using to scam all those rednecks at the race tracks was worthless?
Poor SHORE GOLD. those guys got snookered and they are so stupid they even put a map of all that old CMKX claims property in their latest corporate powerpoint. LOL
poor stupid SHORE. all that money! all that time! and all for just a bunch of worthless moose pasture!!
By: gusjarvis
24 Mar 2009, 09:29 AM EDT
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ya rosen and funny rick walker is partners with them
and he has our amazing land, so between our parnter rick and his partners shore through wescan project surround is done. And funny melvin said when you think shore think of us and bam they have our land, like that is just by chance.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:02:17 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:08:49 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010
24 Mar 2009, 11:00 AM EDT
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forget about CMKX for now and focus on SHORE GOLD and what it means that it acquired all of the former CMKX claims.
what can we conclude from SHORE GOLD's actions in acquiring those claims?
1. the company is run by a group of fools who wasted shareholder money in acquiring over a million acres of worthless moose pasture.
2. the company is run by some fellows willing to take a gamble on some land that may have value. they aren't sure of the land's value but they wanted to play it safe and lock it up in order to prevent other companies from grabbing it.
3. the company is run by some pretty smart fellows who had the land secretly surveyed by plane and hired a geologist to analyze the fly-over data. the geologist reported back that there are a bunch of possible kimberlite targets throughout the 1+ million acres. they waited for CMKX and URBAN Casavant to fail and then they swooped in and gobbled up all the claims.
4. the company is run by some fellows that are smart and good businessmen who were approached by URBAN Casavant back in 2003/2004 about joining forces in the FALC. both SHORE GOLD and CMKX and partners agreed there was more kimberlite in the FALC than any of them could mine and process alone and so they should develop the FALC together. but CMKX had some problems and needed to move the claims over to SHORE somehow while keeping it a secret. the group reached an agreement and somehow CMKX was able to move all of the claims over to SHORE GOLD.
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By: nufced
24 Mar 2009, 11:03 AM EDT
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Did Shore do that while they fought a protracted case in court against UC and Rick Walker, and eventually lost?
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24 Mar 2009, 11:12 AM EDT
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nufced, good point. why fight a "partner" over a claim? one possible explanation is that if you are defining shares in the joint venture in terms of proportion of kimberlite contributed it would make sense to fight with a partner over a disputed claim especially if that claim contained a huge kimberlite.
in other words, if it's your pipe then your share of the total partnership pie goes up 5%. if it's not your share then you share of the total pie goes down 5%. that's a possibility. that point has bothered me too.
then again, it could have been for show. the way both companies dithered and dinked around on the case suggested that neither one was particularly worked up or in a hurry for the results. and then when it was decided the winner barely said much. it's like they knew and it didn't matter.
i suspect there is so much kimberlite in the FALC that they are going to be working the land for more than a century, at least that's the sense i get from looking at the map and comparing the known kimberlite field with the unannounced or non-existent field the vastly larger "Project Surround" land suggests.
look at how much time SHORE has spend exploring and evaluating the STAR pipe and then look at the size of the land SHORE now controls. the STAR pipe is tiny compared to the potential whole.
By: nufced
24 Mar 2009, 11:17 AM EDT
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rosen, I don't believe we have any involvement with Shore, sorry. The Canadian Govt is pretty strict about publically trading companies doing "deals" and not putting out PR's to the public.
By: rosencrantz2010
24 Mar 2009, 11:32 AM EDT
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nufced, i understand and agree,,,, however,,,, what SHORE accomplished is quite remarkable, especially if the land has any value.
and if it doesn't have value then the shareholders of SHORE should throw out management for being so reckless and stupid with company resources, especially since they had plenty of time to do fly-overs to evaluate the land. why take a risk involving that much land? especially since CMKX and its joint partners also had plenty of time to do fly-overs (which they did). and since SHORE knew CMKX and its partners did fly-overs and had geologists evaluate the findings and then,,,, what? CMKX and its partners walked away from valuable land? and then you (ie., SHORE management knowing that) decide that those guys were wrong and your fly-overs are better? nah, something is fishy about this whole scenario.
things don't add up.
the other remarkable thing about what SHORE acquired is that it follows the outline of previously owned CMKX claims. if all SHORE wanted to do was acquire land why not go out and acquire land in a southwest to northeast direction. there is plenty of unclaimed land in that direction.
why reacquired the "crappppy" land CMKX use to control? why not simply acquire all the other unclaimed land around Price Albert, for example?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:21:25 GMT -5
 errrr .....down?? Geezzz.... just like most all other stocks n the market ?By: nufced
24 Mar 2009, 11:40 AM EDT
Rating: Msg. 819065 of 819175 Jump to msg. # Shore Gold is at .30 down from a year high of 4.44 and an alltime high of around 8.00. I don't consider them all that special By: rosencrantz2010
24 Mar 2009, 11:44 AM EDT
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(Reply to 819065 by nufced) Jump to msg. # SHORE GOLD's pps is waaay down. yep. it could simply be that investors know it's going to take forever for them to make money,,,, or maybe the "market" knows equity is going to get diluted? maybe SHORE is the 54 cents URBAN was referring to? regardless, for a long term play SHORE looks like it would be a good diamond investment.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:23:05 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010
24 Mar 2009, 11:47 AM EDT
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whoa nellie! lol,,, check out the maps. it's right there. no secrets. compare the CMKX 2004 Project Surround map with any of the current FALC maps.
SHORE acquired "exactly" the claims CMKX had back then. and they acquired almost all of them and NO ONE ELSE was lucky or unlucky enough to acquire those claims.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:26:12 GMT -5
By: adrienne07
24 Mar 2009, 12:16 PM EDT
Rating: Msg. 819087 of 819180 Jump to msg. # Check your own investments to see the "Fails to Deliver." failurestodeliver.com Enter MLON, QBID and CMKX to see how big Naked Shorted they were !!!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:27:27 GMT -5
By: grajekk
24 Mar 2009, 12:29 PM EDT
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strange what they come accross in Saskatchewan moose pasture... I found this little tidbit on a website of a fairly new company that I am DDing.
During a 1994 exploration program conducted by Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp., an approximately 18.84-metre-thick coal interval between 47.70 metres and 66.54-metre depth was identified at the property. The discovery was made while testing a magnetic geophysical anomaly for kimberlite.
Let's just say this isn't far from our old properties...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:37:08 GMT -5
By: silverbulletny1
24 Mar 2009, 02:24 PM EDT
Rating: Msg. 819145 of 819181 Jump to msg. # Ex SEC Lawyer indicted for Fraud, SEC target Offill receives asset freeze 2009-03-23 15:01 ET - Street Wire Also Street Wire (U-*SEC) U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission by Mike Caswell ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=819145By: rosencrantz2010
24 Mar 2009, 02:45 PM EDT
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(Reply to 819145 by silverbulletny1) Jump to msg. # a small crappppy case worth $15 million and the SEC brings the hammer down. has the SEC indicted anyone in the CMKX case? it's been so long i can't even remember. if the SEC "investigation" into CMKX goes on much longer i'm going to forget who i'm supposed to be hating and what stock it was. i'm going to have to start putting stick up notes on the 'frig reminding myself with things like "you bought a boatload of shiiittt stock called CMKX." "urban casavant was the guy that ran CMKX." "roger glenn was the big shot lawyer that helped urban casavant scam the shareholders." "diamonds, saskatchewan, fort a la corne, oil, melvin, potatoes, volcanoes, gambling, vegas, drugs, booze, race cars, got milk, got milked, easy street, SOOOON!" i thought the SEC didn't do the small cases, only the BIG CASES? LOL
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 24, 2009 15:39:57 GMT -5
By: minicat
24 Mar 2009, 03:32 PM EDT
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Roger Glenn's firm client base included
Citi - if I am not mistaken....
Things that make you go " hmmmmmmmmmm"
bp
By: minicat
24 Mar 2009, 04:33 PM EDT
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Shara, how many firms
as prestigous as Angel and Edwards with a Sr. Partner of Glenn's accomplishments were on that list.
For a further " hmmmmmmm ", as I recall (and I could be wrong) -
It was the talking horse - Mr. Ed Donut - who brought in RG.
I have always believed - based on the horse resume - that he was a bad seed and toxic. Now, how UC found Mr. Ed or other way around - is still a mystery to me.
Curious minds would like to know... and time will tell.
Final thought - For Acca followers - he did always say before this was over, we would be surprised at who turned out to be "not" friendly to our cause. In summary, " hmmmmmmmmm"
Best to all,
Bob
Oh yeah, tick tock tick tock
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